2023 Houston Astros Thread

[WBT 20888]

Maybe it's all still a bit but some of y'all seem to be overlooking the fact that Whitley sucks at AAA and isn't going to magically get better when called up

[Wulaw Horn 19563]

3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Without looking, I’ll guess gage can throw tonight and France / whitley had recent starts 

That was sort of what I was thinking and figured maybe he's only up for the next 2 games...

[Gourmand 7778]

4 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Without looking, I’ll guess gage can throw tonight and France / whitley had recent starts 

France is on day 4 of rest, I expect he gets skipped in his next turn at Sugar Land and called up to start in place of Urquidy.

[Wulaw Horn 19563]

2 minutes ago, WBT said:

Maybe it's all still a bit but some of y'all seem to be overlooking the fact that Whitley sucks at AAA and isn't going to magically get better when called up

OK- here's the case against that being the case.

His defense down there sucks.  The bullpen behind him has allowed 5 inherited runners to score (both in innings he handed the ball to them with 2 outs) so if they'd have gotten their guy his ERA would have been sub 4, and every single fly ball he's giving up, practically, has been a HR.  That's not sustainable.  Take that away and you have a guy punching out 9.09 hitters per 9 with a whip of 1.15.  That's an extreme offensive environment.  Those numbers aren't bad, per se. 
France has been a lot better and the only bright spot in all of AAA as near as I can tell. Whitley has been fine.  Not as deserving of the call up as France. Probably both more deserving than Bielak just based upon this year.  And I like Bielak just fine as a break glass in case of emergency twice through a rotation guy for 10 days.  

1 minute ago, Gourmand said:

France is on day 4 of rest, I expect he gets skipped in his next turn at Sugar Land and called up to start in place of Urquidy.

I would think so. 

[tx 3 putt 78482]

7 minutes ago, WBT said:

Maybe it's all still a bit but some of y'all seem to be overlooking the fact that Whitley sucks at AAA and isn't going to magically get better when called up

correct but it’s reaching a point that we give him a spot start or two just to eat innings. If he can look ‘avg’, it’s a bonus 

[tx 3 putt 78482]

4 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

France is on day 4 of rest, I expect he gets skipped in his next turn at Sugar Land and called up to start in place of Urquidy.

100%’ agree 

Seattle is going to be fun 

[Gourmand 7778]

I'm curious what effect, if any, the new minor league options rules may have on these roster decisions. Teams are now limited to five options moves per player per each option-eligible season. 

[Wulaw Horn 19563]

13 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

correct but it’s reaching a point that we give him a spot start or two just to eat innings. If he can look ‘avg’, it’s a bonus 

There is also this. Who knows what could happen with a guy who sits 98 with 5 plus offerings. Maybe they eliminate 2 and refine the other 3 and find something.  Maybe he decides he likes the big league per diem and becomes a bit more coachable. Maybe he blows up and I can mourn the loss of his career over the rest of the season. 

[tx 3 putt 78482]

I‘m seeing combo starts in Seattle this weekend 

 

[runthebone 8324]

So pumped to have a LHRP!!!!

[tx 3 putt 78482]

🙏🙏🙏

 

[Spaceman Spiff 406]

How is everyone forgetting that Whitley hasn't gotten the benefit of Maldy Magic while in Sugar Land? According to the advanced stats, if you translate his 7.00+ AAA ERA into its MLB equivalent, then adjust for Maldonado wizardry, he would have 8 wins in 6 starts, with a negative ERA. (And that's after shorting him 2 wins for the fact the numbers say Pressly would blow a game and Jose Abreu would cost him another win by somehow hitting into a double play every inning.)

[UTexasFight 9790]

5 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

🙏🙏🙏

 

Sounds like he should be fine in a couple of weeks. I read it on the internet 
 

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/baseball-related-shoulder-injuries
 

Pain after throwing is typical of inflamed rotator cuff tendons. Basically the shoulder is inflamed or irritated after throwing. The exact cause of the pain is not known, although there are several theories about it.

The first possibility is that the tendons are seeing too much stress. This usually occurs when someone tries to get into shape too fast over too short of a period of time. The shoulder and rotator cuff tendons do not like large increases in stress whether it is early in the season or late in the season. Usually when the arm has just seen too much stress, recovery can be achieved with the usual treatments. This includes cutting back on throwing for a brief period, using ice after throwing or even a few times a day, anti-inflammatory medications and rehabilitation exercises. The rotator cuff exercises should initially be done below shoulder level and progressed to above shoulder level slowly. If the exercises hurt, then you are either doing them wrong or your body is telling you something. When the cause of the pain is overuse, it seems that the recovery is never as fast as you want, and patience by the athlete and coaches is difficult. How much time is given to recovery depends upon many factors.

[runthebone 8324]

Not sure why Garcia decided, my arm feels shitty after pitching #5, let me throw three more and see how it feels.

 

[tx 3 putt 78482]

8 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

How is everyone forgetting that Whitley hasn't gotten the benefit of Maldy Magic while in Sugar Land? According to the advanced stats, if you translate his 7.00+ AAA ERA into its MLB equivalent, then adjust for Maldonado wizardry, he would have 8 wins in 6 starts, with a negative ERA. (And that's after shorting him 2 wins for the fact the numbers say Pressly would blow a game and Jose Abreu would cost him another win by somehow hitting into a double play every inning.)

let’s get real here for a minute, many many players in the Astro’s locker room can red this thread for motivation.
 

Forrest gets to read a couple of years of @Wulaw Horn blowing him. Where’s his motivation ?

[Wulaw Horn 19563]

7 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

Sounds like he should be fine in a couple of weeks. I read it on the internet 
 

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/baseball-related-shoulder-injuries
 

Pain after throwing is typical of inflamed rotator cuff tendons. Basically the shoulder is inflamed or irritated after throwing. The exact cause of the pain is not known, although there are several theories about it.

The first possibility is that the tendons are seeing too much stress. This usually occurs when someone tries to get into shape too fast over too short of a period of time. The shoulder and rotator cuff tendons do not like large increases in stress whether it is early in the season or late in the season. Usually when the arm has just seen too much stress, recovery can be achieved with the usual treatments. This includes cutting back on throwing for a brief period, using ice after throwing or even a few times a day, anti-inflammatory medications and rehabilitation exercises. The rotator cuff exercises should initially be done below shoulder level and progressed to above shoulder level slowly. If the exercises hurt, then you are either doing them wrong or your body is telling you something. When the cause of the pain is overuse, it seems that the recovery is never as fast as you want, and patience by the athlete and coaches is difficult. How much time is given to recovery depends upon many factors.

Sit him for a month and then have him start back over the course of 2 or 3 weeks of rehab. 

[UTexasFight 9790]

5 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Sit him for a month and then have him start back over the course of 2 or 3 weeks of rehab. 

I’ll place o/u for July 4 at home against colorado

4 years + 2 days after his MLB debut in colorado 

 

hopefully it truly is minor inflammation and it’s closer to 30 days than 60.

[Wulaw Horn 19563]

1 minute ago, UTexasFight said:

I’ll place o/u for July 4 at home against colorado

4 years + 2 days after his MLB debut in colorado 

 

hopefully it truly is minor inflammation and it’s closer to 30 days than 60.

Dude- 60 days is fine when the word shoulder is involved. 

[tx 3 putt 78482]

Per chandler Rome …..

Because of Thursday's off day, the Astros can proceed with a four-man rotation of Hunter Brown, Framber Valdez, Cristian Javier and Brandon Bielak, in that order, on regular rest until May 9. That would ostensibly be when they need to add another starter.

[Wulaw Horn 19563]

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-2-things-looking-up/id1683955456?i=1000610829512
 

we are on apple. I know that’s the only reason anyone on here hasn’t listened, because they were waiting for it to get on apple. 

[tx 3 putt 78482]

 

[Welch 640]

40 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Per chandler Rome …..

Because of Thursday's off day, the Astros can proceed with a four-man rotation of Hunter Brown, Framber Valdez, Cristian Javier and Brandon Bielak, in that order, on regular rest until May 9. That would ostensibly be when they need to add another starter.

It’s the least of Chandler Rome’s problems, but holy fuck people overuse (and misuse, imo) the word “ostensibly”.

[Snake Diggity 4704]

It’s gonna be France and it looks like it’ll only be for 1 start.

[tx 3 putt 78482]

Let’s Do This  !!!!!

[UTexasFight 9790]

1 hour ago, Welch said:

It’s the least of Chandler Rome’s problems, but holy fuck people overuse (and misuse, imo) the word “ostensibly”.

Exsctly what I thought when I read that 

[Wulaw Horn 19563]

42 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

It’s gonna be France and it looks like it’ll only be for 1 start.

That would be a massive bullet dodged if neither of those guys is out for long. 

[runthebone 8324]

Not watching--was the hit off of Abreu one he should have fielded?

[Guadaloopy 11126]

3 minutes ago, runthebone said:

Not watching--was the hit off of Abreu one he should have fielded?

Nope.  Would have been a ridiculous play if he made it.  Ricochet to Dubon made for a close play at first.  

[Wulaw Horn 19563]

Diaz!  

[Gourmand 7778]

33 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

That would be a massive bullet dodged if neither of those guys is out for long. 

 

 

 

I have my thoughts on where the pitching staff stands here

Edited May 3, 2023 by Gourmand

[Gourmand 7778]

Btw Uncle Mike doubled in his first at bat tonight for Sugar Land

[tx 3 putt 78482]

Diaz damn !!!!!!

[Smax 3800]

Nice throw

[Wulaw Horn 19563]

Watching the last 15 minutes Diaz hit a line shot to the gap and make as good a throw as can possibly be made just makes me mad. 

[Scraps 13755]

We know

[tx 3 putt 78482]

Brown isn’t sharp tonight , but the ump isn’t helping at all

Bullpen is up

[David Dennison 19442]

Whew.

[Scraps 13755]

Won't matter if we can't hit shit

[Wulaw Horn 19563]

10 minutes ago, Scraps said:

We know

As a catcher he has an OPS over 900, he’s been rock solid defensively and he’s undefeated. And has all of 7 starts back there. 

[perfectchaos007 6766]

Our offense took the day off

[Dennis Taylor 19294]

My sources tell me Oxy has requested that their logo be removed from Jose Abreu's jersey

[Wulaw Horn 19563]

MLB is successfully stealing 82% of the time. 
Diaz has thrown out 5 out of 10 base stealers. 

[perfectchaos007 6766]

2 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

MLB is successfully stealing 82% of the time. 
Diaz has thrown out 5 out of 10 base stealers. 

Diaz needs to get the majority of starts at catcher. Full stop

[Wulaw Horn 19563]

Just now, perfectchaos007 said:

Diaz needs to get the majority of starts at catcher. Full stop

It will literally take a massive injury or Brown waiving Maldy. 

[Rip76 5009]

Nice! 

The Julk’s on you.

[tx 3 putt 78482]

Just now, Rip76 said:

Nice! 

The Julk’s on you.

Saved a run 

[Guadaloopy 11126]

Hunter has legit beef with HPU tonight.  After the first batter, he wasn’t getting anything near the edges.   

[WBT 20888]

10 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Diaz needs to get the majority of starts at catcher. Full stop

[WBT 20888]

Maybe score some runs?

[Scraps 13755]

Unnecessary 3-0 count bruh

Thanks for not sucking though