2023 Houston Astros Thread

[David Dennison 18860]

When was the last time we were under .500 this deep into the season, COVID year notwithstanding?

Edited May 9, 2023 by David Dennison

[Wulaw Horn 19070]

2 minutes ago, UTHornFan014 said:

Which contract will end up being worse? Abreu or Montero? 

I hated and freaked out and pissed everyone off for a week after the Montero signing. I loooooved the Abreu signing. 1 for 2.  Better than the Astros are doing right now at 0-2. 

[David Dennison 18860]

Maybe Dusty makes changes tomorrow.

[Honeysucklerose 990]

When was the last time we were under .500 this deep into the season, COVID year notwithstanding?

I think 2016. The last time we didn’t make the ALCS

[cabowabo 4484]

Well fuck Ohtani's shit up tomorrow.

[David Dennison 18860]

Just now, cabowabo said:

Well fuck Ohtani's shit up tomorrow.

LOL

[UTHornFan014 710]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Maybe Dusty makes changes tomorrow.

Yes - Saint Maldy will be back in his deserved role of starting catcher

[tx 3 putt 76958]

[perfectchaos007 6642]

Feels likely we won't be above .500 for a very long time. Hope I'm wrong

[Mitch Hedberg 2090]

 

 

Edited May 9, 2023 by Mitch Hedberg

[Rimbo 25936]

[tx 3 putt 76958]

14 innings from the last 3 starts. This can’t hold up

[Halohal 498]

Damn, another smh game. It's going to cause a riff at the household.

Wen in doubt, do the opposite...

[Pimphand 5752]

Sure would have been nice to bring Vazquez, Gurriel, & Mancini back rather than being locked into 3 seasons of post decline Joey Bautista.

[Guest]

Reggie Jackson was right about the booing...

[Wulaw Horn 19070]

5 hours ago, Pimphand said:

Sure would have been nice to bring Vazquez, Gurriel, & Mancini back rather than being locked into 3 seasons of post decline Joey Bautista.

Those 3 have a combined -0.6 WAR. They weren’t the answer either man. I mean- yeah the money and contract length combined was less, and the production is amazingly better even as ugly as it was, but that wasn’t the answer. 

[Hank Chinaski 6315]

I don’t understand how anyone has been seeing anything other than a wholly mediocre, .500-ish team when you look at this roster. 

Jose Altuve alone isn’t fixing this. And there aren’t going to be any moves to be made at the deadline that are going to fix this, because the Astros don’t have much prospect capital and they’re more than a few patches away from being any kind of real contender. 

It didn’t have to go this way, but the owner wanted to play GM over the winter.

Would Lunhow have signed Abreu to that deal? Montero? Is that how he would have allocated resources? Hell, would Click? Of course not. It was a negligent off-season coming off of a WS title. Hubris. This is what the owner deserves, frankly.

Edited May 9, 2023 by Hank Chinaski

[Jshep34 2308]

Well atleast the bandwagon is getting lighter by the week. Expect mmp to start emptying out post all star break if team is still hovering below .500

[Scraps 13561]

8 hours ago, David Dennison said:

When was the last time we were under .500 this deep into the season, COVID year notwithstanding?

yeah i think 2016, but to be fair we have hovered around .500 the last two seasons until about this time (5/4-5/11) and then they actually pulled their heads out of their asses and took off.  

[cabowabo 4484]

So is Brantley starting tonight?

[txduck87 985]

So is Brantley starting tonight?

That’s a negative ghostrider, the IL is full.

[TejasPedro 1858]

A lot of them look way too comfortable. I would rather watch Drew Gilbert learn on the job, than watch these guys take the money and saunter away. 

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Those 3 have a combined -0.6 WAR. They weren’t the answer either man. I mean- yeah the money and contract length combined was less, and the production is amazingly better even as ugly as it was, but that wasn’t the answer. 

A bit of an unrelated point, but it's absolutely wild how terrible almost every ex-Astro is doing this season.

Aledmys Diaz: -1.0 WAR

Trey Mancini: -0.7

Tony Kemp: -0.5

George Springer: -0.5 

Yuli Gurriel: 0.0

Christian Vazquez: 0.1 

Carlos Correa: 0.2 

[UTPhil2006 3807]

Trade for Springer 

[TexArcher 37774]

2 hours ago, Hank Chinaski said:

I don’t understand how anyone has been seeing anything other than a wholly mediocre, .500-ish team when you look at this roster. 

I'm panicking, too, but this is not a .500 roster.  Any .600 team turns into a .500 team or even a .400 team with this many injures stacked up in a short time.

[Guadaloopy 10971]

11 hours ago, Honeysucklerose said:

Where is that tombstone picture when you need it??

lulz... Astros were 15 under when the tombstone got printed.

[texashorne 1178]

Its all about striking distance at the ASB.. The silver lining is this team is not hot right now and if they are going to get hot, they are saving it for October. 

 

[Guadaloopy 10971]

Bummed that the team has not performed better to this point, but still not worried for the season.  

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

I know shit looks bleak right now, but help is on the way. In the next few weeks we will add:

A former MVP and reigning silver slugger at 2B;

A legit 2-3 starter with potential to pitch like an ace when he's on; and

a career .300 hitter. 

The lineup gets longer and the rotation gets stronger.

[David Dennison 18860]

3 hours ago, Hank Chinaski said:

I don’t understand how anyone has been seeing anything other than a wholly mediocre, .500-ish team when you look at this roster. 

Why would you expect anything more from a team this hampered by injuries?

This roster, when healthy, is one of the best in baseball.

[Guadaloopy 10971]

4 hours ago, Hank Chinaski said:

I don’t understand how anyone has been seeing anything other than a wholly mediocre, .500-ish team when you look at this roster. 

 

 

51 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Why would you expect anything more from a team this hampered by injuries?

This roster, when healthy, is one of the best in baseball.

The sports pessimist is the easiest online space to occupy.  You get to say "see, I was right" when things aren't going well, and then be "pleasantly surprised" when things turn around.

[billfromlaketravis 11481]

They gave up after the Angels took the lead. Tucker looked uninterested in his last at bat, just waved at bad pitches. 
 

I’d say they’re slumping/in a post championship lull. They wanted the second championship badly, they won and became comfortable. They need Altuve to come back reignite the competitive fire. I think they’ll eek by until the little guy is in the lineup. But it won’t be pretty. 

[HtownHorn 14682]

If Gilbert hits in AA like he did in A ball until the ASB, you call him up.

[runthebone 7982]

Just make it into the postseason.

 

 

 

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

9 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

If Gilbert hits in AA like he did in A ball until the ASB, you call him up.

I know this may sound crazy, but CF really isn't the problem right now. Chas had a 122 OPS+ before his injury, and Jake has been much better in his absence. Abreu needs to unfuck himself and Yanier needs to hit his way into the lineup. Maldy gets a lot of shit, and rightfully so, but his OPS+ is 39 and Yanier's is a whopping 51. 

[tx 3 putt 76958]

Game by game….

we need 8 from framber 

need runs, Abreu and bregman need to get going 

dubon needs to get back to working counts. He’s up their swinging too aggressive 

unpopular opinion, Diaz isn’t used to our bullpen yet. It’s showing, need to keep bringing along. 

[HtownHorn 14682]

8 minutes ago, Seasick Sailor said:

I know this may sound crazy, but CF really isn't the problem right now. Chas had a 122 OPS+ before his injury, and Jake has been much better in his absence. Abreu needs to unfuck himself and Yanier needs to hit his way into the lineup. Maldy gets a lot of shit, and rightfully so, but his OPS+ is 39 and Yanier's is a whopping 51. 

Yes, why potentially bring up an impact bat when you have fucking below league average Jake Meyers.

[UTPhil2006 3807]

Dubon needs to bat 6-8th

[tx 3 putt 76958]

.500 or better at the all star beak would be a gift 

[WBT 20572]

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

If Gilbert hits in AA like he did in A ball until the ASB, you call him up.

I'd rather trade him.  Watched too much of his douchebag act in college.

[Pablo 494]

3 minutes ago, WBT said:

I'd rather trade him.  Watched too much of his douchebag act in college.

but he's our douchebag now

[tx 3 putt 76958]

 

[kevwun 15789]

Some of our best players have been douchebags.

[tx 3 putt 76958]

9 minutes ago, WBT said:

I'd rather trade him.  Watched too much of his douchebag act in college.

 

sec baseball is about the cockiness 

[HtownHorn 14682]

Another name to watch on the farm. Joey Loperfido. 7th rounder in 2021 from Duke. So far in the minors, .293/.394/.484, take away his disastrous 1st 19 games in rookie ball, and holy crap this kid can rake. Since being promoted to Corpus has homered in his last 4 games, while carrying a triple slash of .375/.508/.708 through his 1st 13 games.

Plays 1B, CF, and 2B at 6'3" 220.

Edited May 9, 2023 by HtownHorn

[Scraps 13561]

I'd rather trade him.  Watched too much of his douchebag act in college.

Nope, don't like this

Dubon needs to bat every 6-8th day

Fixed

[David Dennison 18860]

9 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Follow up question: why not?

[tx 3 putt 76958]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Follow up question: why not?

he answers that

also, Abreu talk 

[LCHorn 2620]

13 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Another name to watch on the farm. Joey Loperfido. 7th rounder in 2021 from Duke. So far in the minors, .293/.394/.484, take away his disastrous 1st 19 games in rookie ball, and holy crap this kid can rake. Since being promoted to Corpus has homered in his last 4 games, while carrying a triple slash of .375/.508/.708 through his 1st 13 games.

Plays 1B, CF, and 2B at 6'3" 220.

You had me at he can play 1st. 

[David Dennison 18860]

3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

he answers that

also, Abreu talk 

What's the answer?