2023 Houston Astros Thread

[Seasick Sailor 3,747]

6 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

If Urquidy and Brantley come back and if they are themselves, that is probably every bit as good as any acquisition you could make; with no additional cost. If there is a >50% chance of them coming back, I wouldn't pay too high a price for anyone. 

I think there is a 0% chance we get anything meaningful out of Brantley this season. 

[kevwun 15,788]

The Astros pitching staff scares me.  Hoping for Brantley coming back is like hoping LMJ pitches a whole season for the Astros again.

[henrygandorf 29,191]

1 minute ago, kevwun said:

The Astros pitching staff scares me.  Hoping for Brantley coming back is like hoping LMJ pitches a whole season for the Astros again.

well if framber and javier don't figure it out, no trade is going to matter anyway.

[The Dog 44,051]

About prospect rankings:

 

[David Dennison 18,860]

i said something similar in a conversation last night.  the timing of the trade deadline seems to also be when pena and abreu (not to mention chas) got activated.  we also added altuve and yordan.  if we add urquidy and uncle mike, that's about as good as a july/aug run as you can hope for without giving up shit.  there isn't a dominant team in the al right now, so you may just have to roll the dice and hope that our guys do what our guys do.
honestly, is there a team that scares you?  a pitching staff?

The Braves. They are legit.

[henrygandorf 29,191]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

The Braves. They are legit.

 

yeah, no duh.  i said al.

[hornmpa96 2,618]

4 minutes ago, The Dog said:

About prospect rankings:

 

Yep - The industry is full of barely functioning morons and a few really smart folks who get it. I’m curious to find out which group Dana fits in.

[tx 3 putt 76,957]

12 minutes ago, kevwun said:

The Astros pitching staff scares me.

Hanging on my a string or two 

[David Dennison 18,860]

7 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

yeah, no duh.  i said al.

Oops.

[David Dennison 18,860]

17 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

https://www.mlb.com/news/manny-machado-to-opt-out-of-contract-after-2023#:~:text=Manny Machado on 2023 season,focus is not about 2024.

I no read good, but am I missing something?

https://www.mlb.com/news/manny-machado-padres-contract-extension

Edited August 1, 2023 by David Dennison

[henrygandorf 29,191]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I no read good, but am I missing something?

https://www.mlb.com/news/manny-machado-padres-contract-extension

ahh, my bad.  looks like he signed that after he threatened to opt out.  machado is smart.  padres are fucking morons.

they sign these huge deals and basically make these guys untradeable.  or if they do get traded, the team has to choose between prospects and cash.  guess that's kinda what's happening with jv.

another season of proving that these huge deals don't work.

[Js1 85,336]

35 minutes ago, kevwun said:

The Astros pitching staff scares me.  Hoping for Brantley coming back is like hoping LMJ pitches a whole season for the Astros again.

This. Neither will play a single second this year 

[runthebone 7,982]

I like Urquidy, but let's not pretend that he and his 5 ERA are going to help like JV would.  A few more hours to call the Mets bluff.  Fuck them for 1986 anyway.

[Snake Diggity 4,624]

Baseball Prospectus mid-season update has Houston with 5 of the top 150 prospects (Gilbert, Dezenzo, Clifford, Arrighetti, Baez), with Gilbert/Dezenzo/Clifford all in the top 80.  I'm lower on Arrighetti but also think very highly of Barber and Loperfido.  Houston's farm is nowhere near as barren as people are saying.

Edited August 1, 2023 by Snake Diggity

[The Dog 44,051]

 

[henrygandorf 29,191]

15 minutes ago, runthebone said:

I like Urquidy, but let's not pretend that he and his 5 ERA are going to help like JV would.  A few more hours to call the Mets bluff.  Fuck them for 1986 anyway.

in the playoffs these days it's about going 5 and giving up 2 while we lean on offense and bullpen.  that's perfect for urquidy if he's going to be sp3.  not sure where france and hb would slot.  maybe urquidy is sp4. 

[Rockethorn1978 6,077]

I hope there’s a backup plan in case the Mets don’t blink first. 

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[henrygandorf 29,191]

1 minute ago, The Dog said:

 

it's kinda not classic poker.  if verlander decides to stay, he doesn't really "lose".  he stays in new york with his family and his millions, pitching low stress baseball and is on vacation by oct 1st.  yeah, everybody wants to win, but he won a world series last year, so let's not act like he's charles fucking barkley.

[kevwun 15,788]

Verlander is getting paid regardless and already has 2 rings.  He's doing the Mets a favor by agreeing to any trade.  I think the Mets will blink first.

Edited August 1, 2023 by kevwun

[The Dog 44,051]

 

[henrygandorf 29,191]

1 minute ago, The Dog said:

 

like most trades, both teams have to agree on the players involved. great insight. 

[UTHornFan014 710]

3 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Got my fingers crossed for Montero, Maldy, and Meyers! 😂

[kevwun 15,788]

I bet Steve Cohen is really regretting that 2 week bender he went on during free agency this year.

[The Dog 44,051]

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

like most trades, both teams have to agree on the players involved. great insight. 

agreed but in this case it might mean the money/contract part for JV has been figured out. 

[UTexasFight 9,444]

I can’t decide if the longer this goes the better for us (keeping names the Mets want) or worse (Dana blinking and doing what his boss says giving up some name(s) that’s gonna floor us)

[TonyTexas 10,512]

6 minutes ago, The Dog said:

agreed but in this case it might mean the money/contract part for JV has been figured out. 

Both players and money are a moving target. One goes up, the other goes down. The only thing figured out is that JV will waive his NTC to go to the Astros. 

Edited August 1, 2023 by TonyTexas

[Scraps 13,561]

  JV will waive to come here.  Mets can either take the guys we want to give them or they can just pass and keep JV.  

Dana needs to not start shitting himself and play the long game. 

Now with like 15 mins left til deadline if this isn't happening he needs to transition elsewhere and that is where I could see him overpaying the fuck out of something(perhaps Cease) to save the day 

[tx 3 putt 76,957]

We need updates from sugar land if Bligh and Hensley are packing up their lockers 

[henrygandorf 29,191]

hoping since crane is "personally involved" that means he's going to solve the money bit.

[tx 3 putt 76,957]

Twitter saying it’s done 

[The Dog 44,051]

 

[The Dog 44,051]

 

[tx 3 putt 76,957]

 

[tx 3 putt 76,957]

Kicking myself for not buying a close out verlander jersey 

[Lat22 4,014]

It's a crazy world.  Somebody should sell tickets.

[TonyTexas 10,512]

Seeing some speculation that Chas is involved. Hope not but, If so, there better another deal for outfielder. 

Edited August 1, 2023 by TonyTexas

[Gourmand 7,774]

Fuck yess!!!

[tx 3 putt 76,957]

1 minute ago, TonyTexas said:

Seeing some speculation that Chas is involved. I

 

[elfenix 34,240]

[henrygandorf 29,191]

on mlb radio about 15 min ago they were like "if i'm the mets, i'm asking for hunter brown."

the fuck outta here with that.  let's see.

[uoftorange 1,386]

2 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Seeing some speculation that Chas is involved. Hope not but, If so, there better another deal for outfielder. 

[tx 3 putt 76,957]

 

[TonyTexas 10,512]

3 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Seeing some speculation that Chas is involved. Hope not but, If so, there better another deal for outfielder. 

Nm

 

[Gourmand 7,774]

Welcome back Kate!!

[Mez2 4,023]

[Rockethorn1978 6,077]

So Juan Soto is next? Or ohtani?

[TonyTexas 10,512]

Gilbert is one of the prospects 

[Rimbo 25,933]

1 hour ago, kevwun said:

The Astros pitching staff scares me.  Hoping for Brantley coming back is like hoping LMJ pitches a whole season for the Astros again.

how you feeling about it now?

[tx 3 putt 76,957]

 

Extend chas