2023 Houston Astros Thread

[Hank Chinaski 6,320]

1 hour ago, DaysOff said:

I will never get over 2019.

I mean yeah, same, because the Astros will never have a better team than that one.

But that WS wasn’t really some massive upset. WAS had the best record in baseball over the last 2/3 of that season, had very high-end offensive players (Soto, an actually healthy Rendon, Turner, etc.), and a HOF starter plus Strasburg healthy and pitching up to his potential for the only time in his career (don’t forget how elite he was as a prospect). Corbin was actually good at that point too. The rotations were basically a wash in 2019. 

If those teams played 100 times, I’d guess the Astros would have won a few more than 50, but probably not that many more.

[Chuckie Finster 22,734]

1 hour ago, DaysOff said:

I will never get over 2019.

15 of our 25 players on that World Series roster had/have an All-Star game on their resume.

Of the other 10, 3 have Gold Gloves and one has a batting title. 

There's a case to be made that it is the most talented roster in baseball history.  Still can't believe we didn't win.

Edited May 24, 2023 by Chuckie Finster

[Scraps 13,576]

26 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

I mean yeah, same, because the Astros will never have a better team than that one.

But that WS wasn’t really some massive upset.

Keep telling yourself that

[Seasick Sailor 3,747]

Altuve not in the lineup:

 

[UTPhil2006 3,812]

Needs more cheese curds in his diet 

[kevwun 15,890]

I bet Bregman made them try new product samples again.

Edited May 24, 2023 by kevwun

[David Dennison 18,946]

As a lifelong Houston sports fan, 2022 erased the pain of 2019 with a quickness. 

[Gourmand 7,774]

38 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

As a lifelong Houston sports fan, 2022 erased the pain of 2019 with a quickness. 

Same.

Last year's redemptive WS title was as meaningful to me as 2017. I'm done crying about coulda/shoulda 2019..

 

[Wulaw Horn 19,152]

17 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

Same.

Last year's redemptive WS title was as meaningful to me as 2017. I'm done crying about coulda/shoulda 2019..

 

Last years team was very very worthy and deserving of a world series title. 

2019 was one of the 10 greatest teams ever, in my opinion, if they'd have finished with a world series title. I loved that team. 

[HtownHorn 14,777]

The 2019 team's bullpen was complete trash and blew up in the playoffs specifically the WS.

[Wulaw Horn 19,152]

20 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

The 2019 team's bullpen was complete trash and blew up in the playoffs specifically the WS.

False.  ERA+ for our relievers that year:

Osuna- 176

Devo- 96

Rondon- 125

Harris- 309 !!!!!

Presley 200

Josh James- 99

Joe Smith- 260

Collin McHugh- 99

 

Those were the guys that got 28 or more appearances out of the bullpen.  The top 6 guys on that all got 49 games or more, and then Smith got 28 out of the bullpen and Mchugh got 27 out of the bullpen.  That's 3 guys who are average, 1 guy who is good and 4 guys who are at insane production.  Now, they did sort of shit the bed in the playoffs.  

[Hank Chinaski 6,320]

2 hours ago, Scraps said:

Keep telling yourself that

Meh. It’s a 7-game series. The Astros were probably better, but the degree to which they were better doesn’t really make much of a meaningful difference in a short series. 

[tx 3 putt 77,419]

Maldy / Diaz / Montero need to go on a weekend retreat together. Diaz needs to take notes 

[Scraps 13,576]

"Traded for Carlos Gomez and Mike Fiers."

Rage


Another waterhead ump jfc.

[Scraps 13,576]

I hate catchers like Contreras. Douchebag fishes for every pitch and the pitch "framing" is so over dramatic

[David Dennison 18,946]

JFC

[tx 3 putt 77,419]

Derp 

[Scraps 13,576]

Nice pitch

[perfectchaos007 6,677]

Great start boys. Picking up where we left off yesterday 

[Mitch Hedberg 2,090]

Bielak is missing something today. Either the smoke or the mirrors. 

[tx 3 putt 77,419]

4 minutes ago, Mitch Hedberg said:

Bielak is missing something today. Either the smoke or the mirrors. 

needs more spider tack 

[Mo Horn 8,854]

New day, same old Abreau sucking with RISP

[Seasick Sailor 3,747]

9 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

New day, same old Abreau sucking with RISP

He sucks with no one on too. 

[David Dennison 18,946]

Something has to be done.

[Hank Chinaski 6,320]

9 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Something has to be done.

One would think…

[WBT 20,668]

[kevwun 15,890]

Getting the ball out the infield would be an accomplishment right now.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, David Dennison said:

As a lifelong Houston sports fan, 2022 erased the pain of 2019 with a quickness. 

2022 was huge on multiple levels.

Fuck you, Manfred.

[Seasick Sailor 3,747]

Need Yordan or Tucker to come through here. Can't leave it up to Abreu

[kevwun 15,890]

Bring in a lefty.

[WBT 20,668]

Thanks for the hook

[Scraps 13,576]

This is so overmanaging

[David Dennison 18,946]

Crud.

[WBT 20,668]

How do you pitch to Tucker there?  wow

[Chuckie Finster 22,734]

We're never going to score again.

[David Dennison 18,946]

Does Jose Abreu hit a HR this season?

[tx 3 putt 77,419]

7 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

We're never going to score again.

[WBT 20,668]

Remember when we won 8 in a row?  That was cool.

[Guadaloopy 11,013]

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

False.  ERA+ for our relievers that year:

Harris- 309 !!!!!

Hard to overstate how good of a piece of hitting Kendrick's HR was.  Harris absolutely hit his spot and Kendrick just beat him.  Sigh.

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1,549]

this ain't our year

[HtownHorn 14,777]

1 minute ago, Guadaloopy said:

Hard to overstate how good of a piece of hitting Kendrick's HR was.  Harris absolutely hit his spot and Kendrick just beat him.  Sigh.

Devenski - 9.00 era in 3 IP

Harris - 4.50 era in 4 IP

James - 10.80 era in 1.2 IP

Osuna - 3.86 era in 2.1 IP

Peacock - 3.00 in 3 IP

Pressly - 3.86 in 3 IP

Rondon - 0 in 1 IP

Smith - 5.40 in 3.1 IP

The bullpen was a fucking disaster in that series and tied with Verlander for the biggest reason the Astros lost it.

[David Dennison 18,946]

GTFO, Charlie Brown.

[WBT 20,668]

Trying to get 7 out of Bielak just seems greedy

1 minute ago, HtownHorn said:

Devenski - 9.00 era in 3 IP

Harris - 4.50 era in 4 IP

James - 10.80 era in 1.2 IP

Osuna - 3.86 era in 2.1 IP

Peacock - 3.00 in 3 IP

Pressly - 3.86 in 3 IP

Rondon - 0 in 1 IP

Smith - 5.40 in 3.1 IP

The bullpen was a fucking disaster in that series and tied with Verlander for the biggest reason the Astros lost it.

Ok, cool.  It's a 7 game series.

[Guadaloopy 11,013]

3 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

this ain't our year

[Seasick Sailor 3,747]

5 minutes ago, WBT said:

Trying to get 7 out of Bielak just seems greedy

Especially with an off day tomorrow and none of the high leverage guys pitching over the last two days. 

[tx 3 putt 77,419]

One too many innings for bielak 

[HtownHorn 14,777]

This team is completely dependent on 2 bats to carry 7 other players. Hopefully Bregman and Altuve can somehow make it 4 carrying 5.

It's fucking ridiculous Crane with all the money he is printing decided to roll with this team.

Dubon, Meyers, Maldonado fucking suck. Their careers have proven they fucking suck. Abreu's last season was a great indicator that he was done.

8 hits with 2 EBs against the shitty Milwaukee pitchers is embarrassing. 

[tx 3 putt 77,419]

Bagwell going over minor prospects needs to happen more often 

[David Dennison 18,946]

6 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

This team is completely dependent on 2 bats to carry 7 other players. Hopefully Bregman and Altuve can somehow make it 4 carrying 5.

It's fucking ridiculous Crane with all the money he is printing decided to roll with this team.

Dubon, Meyers, Maldonado fucking suck. Their careers have proven they fucking suck. Abreu's last season was a great indicator that he was done.

8 hits with 2 EBs against the shitty Milwaukee pitchers is embarrassing. 

Who should he have signed?

[Mitch Hedberg 2,090]

This was worse than working.