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4 minutes ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

Who is mentoring or coaxing this Judge Cannon?  She’s not smart enough to be delaying and coming up with these slow-downs on her own.

Who put you up to this?  Was it her?

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2 minutes ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

Who is mentoring or coaxing this Judge Cannon?  She’s not smart enough to be delaying and coming up with these slow-downs on her own.

I think she's really fucking stupid.  

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6 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Mandamus is premised on the notion that the trial judge has screwed the pooch

Put another way, a trial court has no discretion in determining what the law is or applying the law to the facts.

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12 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

But, she’s got help…she’s not doing this by herself….imho.

I dunno man.  You'd really think her clerks would at least question what she's doing. But a dumbshit may hire dumbshit clerks.

And to be somewhat fair, neither the PRA itself or the court decisions nibbling around the edges of it are particularly clear about how the overall process works.  Another unfortunate thing is that there is a pretty long history of questioning the legitimacy and constitutionality of the Espionage Act, particularly as applied to the press, so looking askance at it is not wholly unwarranted.  My/our hero Steve Vladeck ironically gave testimony to Congress about the Espionage Act being a bit of a shit show about 10 years ago.  https://irp.fas.org/congress/2010_hr/051210vladeck.pdf

Still, as is well known, I try to follow this shit in fair detail.  I'm probably not the greatest legal mind and I do have a pretty hardcore anti-Trump bias, but this shit just doesn't seem that difficult.

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12 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

But, she’s got help…she’s not doing this by herself….imho.

https://thedispatch.com/podcast/advisoryopinions/judge-cannons-clerkship-problem/

I think the problem is that she has no help.  I often want to punch these two hosts, but this is a pretty good podcast that stressed me the fuck out at not only how over her head she is, but how she's going to self-destruct.

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3 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

https://thedispatch.com/podcast/advisoryopinions/judge-cannons-clerkship-problem/

I think the problem is that she has no help.  I often want to punch these two hosts, but this is a pretty good podcast that stressed me the fuck out at not only how over her head she is, but how she's going to self-destruct.

there is a small possibility that her refusal to issue any rulings is also related to her whimpering in the corner in a fetal position, knowing she’s gonna fuck up whatever decision she makes and be a laughing stock, so she does nothing. The fact that it helps Trump may be a secondary reason. 

The issue is whether it is malice or stupidity. Feel free to put a why not both gif after this.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

I dunno man.  You'd really think her clerks would at least question what she's doing. But a dumbshit may hire dumbshit clerks.

And to be somewhat fair, neither the PRA itself or the court decisions nibbling around the edges of it are particularly clear about how the overall process works.  Another unfortunate thing is that there is a pretty long history of questioning the legitimacy and constitutionality of the Espionage Act, particularly as applied to the press, so looking askance at it is not wholly unwarranted.  My/our hero Steve Vladeck ironically gave testimony to Congress about the Espionage Act being a bit of a shit show about 10 years ago.  https://irp.fas.org/congress/2010_hr/051210vladeck.pdf

Still, as is well known, I try to follow this shit in fair detail.  I'm probably not the greatest legal mind and I do have a pretty hardcore anti-Trump bias, but this shit just doesn't seem that difficult.

Man, her clerks are almost certainly some far-right redpilled freaks who love that she's helping Trump.

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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

Man, her clerks are almost certainly some far-right redpilled freaks who love that she's helping Trump.

“ …and if Trump had the records in his bathroom for that many years, doesn’t acquisitive prescription* apply - and they are Trump’s?”

(Adverse possession for non-voodoo state law-dawgs)

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As tragic as this will probably be to our Republic.  Why am I laughing at "Highly Sanctioned" as I read it Marty Short's voice from "The Three Amigos" about 'In-famous'?  You see there's sanctioned.  But this El Trumpo is 'Highly Sanctioned''!!!

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https://davidlat.substack.com/p/clerking-for-judge-aileen-cannon-why-clerks-quit

Long post about Cannon's clerkship issues but also covers her perceived bias. 

Long story short - she got too creative when she issued her special master rulings, and the subsequent smackdown from the 11th circuit made clerking for her unappealing to top candidates.

This made filling the positions difficult and caused additional delays. She's also inexperienced as a trial judge and so it's amateur night with every ruling.

IMHO she likely is making the same mistake with this jury instructions nonsense. In her mind, she's trying a novel approach to be fair to both parties. In reality, she's fucking the goat and getting the law wrong (again).

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Tell me.

When.

He.

Is fucking.

DEAD.

You'll know because you'll be getting a telephone call from my wife to ask you for help settling my estate.  My new hope is that he needs to die in evening/nighttime.  So that when I go on my bender, I can die next day so I don't have to share a 'date of death' with him.  If he dies between 3:00am-3:00pm, there's a very high chance we both go on the same day and that just doesn't sit well with me.  It's going to be this Autumn/Winter.  Which is going to make it difficult to get fireworks and non-fentanyl laced heroin.  But I did make a connection with a guy that can me both within 24 hours.  But it's gonna cost a lot.  We really are gonna need a VRBO in the Hill Country or somewhere similar for a "business conference."  But then, it's hard to get strippers out there on a day's notice.  Shit, I gotta put down some deposits on some bitches...

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I see absolutely no reason to presume good faith on Cannon's part. I don't care how stupid and unqualified you are, if you've made it through law school and end up appointed as a federal judge, you know you don't just get to interfere with a criminal investigation you have no fucking jurisdiction over.

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44 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

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Haha, bond company not eligible to post bond in NY

 

What's the big deal, Donald?  It's only $175M  I thought you were a Billionaire.  Don't you carry this around in your wallet?

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21 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

He’s going to commit fraud on that financial statement isn’t he?

 

can the bond issuer get in trouble for having issued the bond if the financial statement shows that Trump doesn’t have enough equity in the pledged properties to cover the 175 million, or is it simply more financial risk for them?

 

In a few weeks there will be two new lawsuits filed: dOTArd vs the bond insurer, and the bond insurer vs doTaRd. 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, The Dog said:

and more on Cannon:

 

In Oklahoma the judge doesn’t respond, the parties in interest respond. I assume it’s the same there. It would be trumps lawyers saying she’s right and smiths team saying she’s wrong. Naming the judge as the respondent is a matter of form because the order would be for her to do or not do something. 

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Nothing will come of this other than continued delays.  But the good news is being 'betrayed' by an allied judge will press the rodent farther into the corner.  And while his arrogance shields him from any self-reflection or doubt, his cardiovascular system will ramp up its concern about his fate.  The plan was never for him to do jail time.  The plan was for his obese, ragged ass to perish given his carnival of errors.  It would appear there's been another huge step towards that goal today.  He'll stay up late tonight to post truth social/trump socialist shit about these 'outlandish' rulings.  And if fake subscriber bots will reply and engage him to keep him awake and angry........his already obvious demise will accelerate.  And then the next one.  And the one after that.  And so on.  This is how to end false gods.  

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23 minutes ago, 'stache said:

In Oklahoma the judge doesn’t respond, the parties in interest respond. I assume it’s the same there. It would be trumps lawyers saying she’s right and smiths team saying she’s wrong. Naming the judge as the respondent is a matter of form because the order would be for her to do or not do something. 

Same in Texas.  Just is listed as the "respondent" but has not real role in the appellate proceedings.

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1 hour ago, TexasEd said:

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Haha, bond company not eligible to post bond in NY

 

What's the big deal, Donald?  It's only $175M  I thought you were a Billionaire.  Don't you carry this around in your wallet?

I'm just noticing the date Knight Specialty Insurance's Undertaking. I suspect if the appellate court affirms we'll hear about the "April Fool's Defense" about why it's not really owed.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

I’m sure he will totally be held accountable 

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If either the "$200,000,000 in CASH" or the "ZERO DEBT" part of this can be verified to be false, this is a real problem for him.

However, he'll almost certainly be cleared with a defense of, "Do you really think I wrote that entire paragraph with only a handful of grammar and spelling mistakes?" 

 

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12 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Some think Jack will use her unwillingness to rule on this for 11 circuit smackdown 

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.431.0.pdf

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Under ordinary circumstances, I tend to agree with the idea that you don't lock down jury instructions at this stage of the proceedings.  But trial judges also tend not to ask the parties to submit jury instructions (or briefing thereon) at this stage of the proceedings.  So to the extent that she is entertaining an instruction that does not comport with the law (despite her statement that she is not) and to the extent that such an error (if she gave that instruction) could not be appealed be the government since jeopardy already attached, her refusal to rule might be properly subject to mandamus review.

 

She brought the question about the jury charge.  Her saying now that it shouldn't be interpreted as anything but her trying to learn about this novel case is like her holding a lighted match near a pile of gasoline soaked rags and saying, "Don't worry.  I just wanted to see if these matches were any good."

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4 hours ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

https://thedispatch.com/podcast/advisoryopinions/judge-cannons-clerkship-problem/

I think the problem is that she has no help.  I often want to punch these two hosts, but this is a pretty good podcast that stressed me the fuck out at not only how over her head she is, but how she's going to self-destruct.

 

4 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

there is a small possibility that her refusal to issue any rulings is also related to her whimpering in the corner in a fetal position, knowing she’s gonna fuck up whatever decision she makes and be a laughing stock, so she does nothing. The fact that it helps Trump may be a secondary reason. 

The issue is whether it is malice or stupidity. Feel free to put a why not both gif after this.

Cannon was given this case for a reason -- loyalty, inexperience or stupidity all aid Trump's efforts to delay this past the 11/5 election. His only way to "win" is to win back POTUS and he can snap his fingers and make the legal shit go away. Delaying past 11/5 is winning in a sense because there's no way he beats the rap in all these trials if they're legitimately tried.

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3 minutes ago, dcbc said:

Under ordinary circumstances, I tend to agree with the idea that you don't lock down jury instructions at this stage of the proceedings.  But trial judges also tend not to ask the parties to submit jury instructions (or briefing thereon) at this stage of the proceedings.  So to the extent that she is entertaining an instruction that does not comport with the law (despite her statement that she is not) and to the extent that such an error (if she gave that instruction) could not be appealed be the government since jeopardy already attached, her refusal to rule might be properly subject to mandamus review.

 

She brought the question about the jury charge.  Her saying now that it shouldn't be interpreted as anything but her trying to learn about this novel case is like her holding a lighted match near a pile of gasoline soaked rags and saying, "Don't worry.  I just wanted to see if these matches were any good."

Yep. Ironic that she chides Smith for asking for an early resolution on the jury instructions THAT SHE FUCKING ORDERED THEM TO SUBMIT. 

Also the denial of the motion to dismiss is somewhat inconsistent with the jury instructions ruling. 

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