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[Surly Bevo 25171]

55 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

It should be worth noting that Moscow Marge has not been summoned to comfort Trump in the courtroom.  Yet Big Mike is there bending the knee. 

 

Looks like Stormy isn’t the only “whore” to visit the courthouse. 

[Dnaguy 12104]

16 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

That's the old Christian way.  They no longer bother with confession or shame, and repentance left the building a long time ago.  Deny, deflect, accuse, and then move on.  

Infuriating. 

Repent?

I answer to 3 folks and 3 folks alone.

The father, son, and the holy spirit.

Answering or repenting to anyone else is sacrilege and a sure fire way to hell.

I'm born again each day in the blood of the lamb when I wake up and thank Jesus for another glorious sunrise.

Heavenly father knows my heart.

Let us pray.......

Edited May 14 by Dnaguy

[Red Five 40898]

Perhaps I've missed it, but has any bootlicker actually attempted to explain WHY they think this is all a sham? I know Johnson said the other day that "Trump has done nothing wrong", which is just, wow. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33900]

1 minute ago, Red Five said:

Perhaps I've missed it, but has any bootlicker actually attempted to explain WHY they think this is all a sham? I know Johnson said the other day that "Trump has done nothing wrong", which is just, wow. 

because drumpf told them to say it. it's fucking infuriating this worthless cretin has so many people bending the knee to him. if I knew a better word than pathetic I'd use it here.

[Genco 3041]

29 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

I have a prior engagement this afternoon with some local Special Olympians from 1-3

Good luck. Hope you make it to the medal stand.

[HenryJames 66188]

Hahahahaha

[chainsaw 9878]

[GenXer 3032]

43 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Freud says your slip is showing

[GenXer 3032]

10 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Hahahahaha

Did they get a buy one get three free sale at the trump suit store?

[Longhorn_Fan68 33900]

guess we know what the new fascist costumes will look like going forward

[Foosters 17889]

having a laugh at the thought of those 4 guys struggling to tie a tie that will hang 6 inches below the belt

[pacman 7371]

On 11/13/2023 at 9:19 AM, wildcat09 said:

Yeah, sue me, i haven't had enough coffee yet.

Haberman has been in their pocket for years.

 

 

[Rimbo 26140]

23 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Perhaps I've missed it, but has any bootlicker actually attempted to explain WHY they think this is all a sham? I know Johnson said the other day that "Trump has done nothing wrong", which is just, wow. 

 

They just have to say it. Repeating it creates the belief that it's true. Just like CJK5H...

 

3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

guess we know what the new fascist costumes will look like going forward

 

Was thinking the same thing.

1 minute ago, pacman said:

 

 

fuck Maggie Haberman

[Nice Guy Eddie 13528]

I imagine that all of republicans in attendance are being ordered there by Trump.

My bet is that it's a hung jury. There has to be one Trumpist on the jury that will refuse to budge regardless of the facts presented to them. I hope that I'm wrong.

[The Dog 44160]

6 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I imagine that all of republicans in attendance are being ordered there by Trump.

My bet is that it's a hung jury. There has to be one Trumpist on the jury that will refuse to budge regardless of the facts presented to them. I hope that I'm wrong.

Yeah just like what happened with the E Jean Carroll defamation cases. MAGA stopped those so surely there will be one who won't go along with this one.

Right?

[jimmyjazz 46221]

What does the rogue lapel pin on the left say?

[Red Five 40898]

I imagine that all of republicans in attendance are being ordered there by Trump.
My bet is that it's a hung jury. There has to be one Trumpist on the jury that will refuse to budge regardless of the facts presented to them. I hope that I'm wrong.

The juror who said he gets his news from Truth Social is no longer on the jury, is that correct?

[Judge Roybeanbag 11821]

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

I had forgotten, but I have a prior engagement this afternoon with some local Special Olympians from 1-3

 

 

Thanks for all you do on this thread.  And good luck on your meeting with Caitlyn Jenner and Mary Lou Retton.

[gernblansten 3197]

6 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Yeah just like what happened with the E Jean Carroll defamation cases. MAGA stopped those so surely there will be one who won't go along with this one.

Right?

No one ever knows what a jury will do. Preponderance of the evidence with a nine person jury in a civil trial versus beyond a reasonable doubt with a twelve person jury in a criminal trial isn't really comparable. O.J. was found liable in one and not guilty in another. 

[The Dog 44160]

4 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

No one ever knows what a jury will do. Preponderance of the evidence with a nine person jury in a civil trial versus beyond a reasonable doubt with a twelve person jury in a criminal trial isn't really comparable. O.J. was found liable in one and not guilty in another. 

you are correct - it was the tone of inevitability that I was addressing.

[GenXer 3032]

[wildcat09 29420]

13 minutes ago, Red Five said:

The juror who said he gets his news from Truth Social is no longer on the jury, is that correct?

No, I think he replaced the woman they pulled after her friends started asking her if she was on the jury.

[DixonHur 11393]

28 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

What does the rogue lapel pin on the left say?

[Underdog 28784]

1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

That's the old Christian way. 

Hot Christianity, cool Christianity, even if it's old Christianity 
It's still Christianity to me

[Willfully Horn 8052]

3 hours ago, Longhorn94 said:

I mean you cant be a sinner seeking forgiveness if you don't sin first, amirite?

 

3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

 

When you understand that for modern American "Christians," the list of the holiest of sacraments just has one item on it -- "be a complete fucking hypocrite" -- it all clicks and falls into place.

Modern American Christians have managed to be, literally, everything the ACTUAL Christ warned and spoke against.  It's amazing to watch.  Up is down, black is white, lies are truth.....all of it.  One of the most fascinating sociological phenomena I've ever seen.

 

1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

That's the old Christian way.  They no longer bother with confession or shame, and repentance left the building a long time ago.  Deny, deflect, accuse, and then move on.  

Infuriating. 

 

1 hour ago, Dnaguy said:

Repent?

I answer to 3 folks and 3 folks alone.

The father, son, and the holy spirit.

Answering or repenting to anyone else is sacrilege and a sure fire way to hell.

I'm born again each day in the blood of the lamb when I wake up and thank Jesus for another glorious sunrise.

Heavenly father knows my heart.

Let us pray.......

“Jesus died for my sins. I am already forgiven.”

So, in their minds, it doesn’t matter what they do.

[smokebomb 360]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

Hahahahaha

 

['stache 21890]

2 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

It should be worth noting that Moscow Marge has not been summoned to comfort Trump in the courtroom.  Yet Big Mike is there bending the knee. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

 

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

Hahahahaha

[YGIFS 19452]

2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

I had forgotten, but I have a prior engagement this afternoon with some local Special Olympians from 1-3, so I'm not going to be able to do the play by play of the cross on Cohen.   @bolverk, are you able to take the wheel?

 

 

And now a reading from Trump's favorite gospel, a letter from Saint Daniel to the Special Olympians.  

"Dear brothers and sisters..."  (insert meme of him doing that physical mocking of the disabled reporter).  Well, you get it.  

[Satchel 6949]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

Hahahahaha

It’s fascinating to watch  wannabe cabinet members and VP hopefuls on their pilgrim journey to a Manhattan courtroom to give the evil eye to the judge on Trump’s behalf. It’s like farting Fatima.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33900]

I'll say it again: there should be stiffer penalties for lying, especially from elected officials. the parade of lies behind those microphones is just astounding. history will not look kindly at all on these people. assuming they don't win and prevent it from being written. sleep well!

[The Dog 44160]

LOL

[Longhorn_Fan68 33900]

why the objection? that's high comedy. but really, why was it sustained? because it's not a direct answer?

[Dahobbs 17691]

1 minute ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

why the objection? that's high comedy. but really, why was it sustained? because it's not a direct answer?

The objection was to the question, it just didn't beat the answer. I believe both the question and answer were stricken based on the reporting I've seen. 

[DixonHur 11393]

2 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

why the objection?

Because Blanche is a crying little shit

[The Original Greaser Bob 2851]

2 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

That's the old Christian way. 

"When I run (for office), I feel His power." - Eric Liddell

[BamaATL 16593]

2 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

Looks like Stormy isn’t the only “whore” to visit the courthouse. 

Stormy is a sex worker, the whores are the Republicans.  

[chainsaw 9878]

17 minutes ago, The Dog said:

LOL

[bolverk 29728]

Sorry all. Just getting caught up.

[Blotto 23584]

2 hours ago, Foosters said:

having a laugh at the thought of those 4 guys struggling to tie a tie that will hang 6 inches below the belt

Luckily for them, Lindsey Graham just happened to be around and eagerly volunteered to take precise measurements by hand. No matter how many tries it takes. 

[The Dog 44160]

Liked this one too:

[bolverk 29728]

Looks like it's a wrap for the afternoon.

[Huckleberry 33113]

15 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Liked this one too:

Lawyers, explain why "Well yeah, he broke the law" isn't a good answer here. That's what my instinct would be, and even if the defense objected isn't setting a witness up for an answer like that dumb? 

[BevoAbyss 2087]

History shows no surprise Maggie Haberman was/is spewing Trump propaganda for the New York Times. 

After all, the Nazis/Hitler had writers, artists, hacks, and propagandists all over the German newspaper, radio, and film industries in the 1930s-1940s.

 

Edited May 14 by BevoAbyss

[Homercles 10206]

I expected a lot more fire and needless drama from the defense on cross…bet Trump is pissed (if he even heard any of it during nappy time).  I’m biased, but the prosecution laid out a clear path to how TrumpCo is essentially a mob-style personality cult that minimized any form of traceable communications while attempting to hide hush payments illegally.  

But, given the ratio of hidden Trumpers in the country, I have little faith in the jury to reach consensus.  That oaf will proclaim he can sleep through trials and still be found not guilty.  

['stache 21890]

18 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Lawyers, explain why "Well yeah, he broke the law" isn't a good answer here. That's what my instinct would be, and even if the defense objected isn't setting a witness up for an answer like that dumb? 

As a technical matter, witnesses cannot tell a jury their opinion on whether a defendant is guilty or innocent, because only the jury can make that determination, but in response to a question worded as such, I think an objection would be overruled, because counsel opened the door and the witness is allowed to provide a response. 

[The Original Greaser Bob 2851]

So refreshing to know that when Trump wins this case, in addition to the following truisms, the GOP is going to lock in the idea that Dems, and not the GOP,  weaponizes law enforcement:

GOP - more fiscally responsible.

GOP - more responsible on national defense.

GOP - backs the blue.

[The Original Greaser Bob 2851]

23 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Lawyers, explain why "Well yeah, he broke the law" isn't a good answer here.

I would probably prefer that my client answer a different question:  "I think he should be convicted becasse what he did was wrong."

[Dahobbs 17691]

20 minutes ago, 'stache said:

As a technical matter, witnesses cannot tell a jury their opinion on whether a defendant is guilty or innocent, because only the jury can make that determination, but in response to a question worded as such, I think an objection would be overruled, because counsel opened the door and the witness is allowed to provide a response. 

You're probably right, but I would have some small concern that it could be used as the basis of a mistrial. I thought his answer, especially if it had a good delivery, had largely the same effect on the jury with less risk. 

[Sawbonz 27595]

4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

You're probably right, but I would have some small concern that it could be used as the basis of a mistrial. I thought his answer, especially if it had a good delivery, had largely the same effect on the jury with less risk. 

The defense can’t ask for a mistrial based on a question they asked can they? Because if that’s the case seems like there would be an “oops” question in every criminal trial that is trending against the defendant 

[dcbc 14525]

25 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

The defense can’t ask for a mistrial based on a question they asked can they? Because if that’s the case seems like there would be an “oops” question in every criminal trial that is trending against the defendant 

They can ask.  But it almost certainly would fail under the invited error doctrine.  If he went off topic, they could object to a nonresponsive answer and request an instruction to disregard.  If that instruction were granted, they could request a mistrial, but he hasn't said anything so bad that it would render a hypothetical instruction to disregard ineffective.  

Edited May 14 by dcbc