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pretty much this.  I look at folks like Rex Tillerson and Kay Bailey Hutchison.  Y'all probably aren't big fans, but I think they are solid people.  But they fucking bailed out after a short while then they realized what an absolute piece of shit this guy is/was.  But to his credit, and your point, the man knows how to select abject pieces of shit to do his dirty work and cover for him, all the while making him look like a saint by comparison.  It's almost admirable.  

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Imagine your basis of hating Trump is because of mean tweets, January 6 and “hush money” trial all because liberal media is crooked. Fuck right off. This is my last post in this forum  dumb fucki

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3 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

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pretty much this.  I look at folks like Rex Tillerson and Kay Bailey Hutchison.  Y'all probably aren't big fans, but I think they are solid people.  But they fucking bailed out after a short while then they realized what an absolute piece of shit this guy is/was.  But to his credit, and your point, the man knows how to select abject pieces of shit to do his dirty work and cover for him, all the while making him look like a saint by comparison.  It's almost admirable.  

And this is why a second Trump term is incredibly dangerous. There will be zero reasonable people in his administration. It's easy to say that they weren't there before but many/some did keep Trump in check to some degree.

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4 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

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I have no idea what any of this means, mind you, but this is her explanation.

The crucial phrase in that entire word salad is "sufficient time needs to be afforded"

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That Florida case is never going to go to trial unless they get the 11th circuit to take the case away from her, and it sure as hell looks like they don’t want to try to do that (presumably because they’re worried the attempt will fail).

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5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Just like we know that external parties write laws for lawmakers, could external lawyers be helping Aileen Cannon with her responses and "logic"? 

 

Ex parte communications and assistance like that, not on the record (e.g., not via amicus briefing filed in open court), would be highly unethical and improper.

So, there's a good chance that it's happening.  Seriously.  In this timeline, I assume the worst.  That has proven to be the safe/correct assumption repeatedly.

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"Trump attorney Todd Blanche says he's on pace with his closing argument, so he thinks he has about 30 minutes left.

Blanche spoke for one hour and 54 minutes before the break. At the start of the day he estimated his closing argument would take about two and a half hours.

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass said that he will take between four and four and a half hours."

lol.  Sleepy time Trump incoming!

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

 

Ex parte communications and assistance like that, not on the record (e.g., not via amicus briefing filed in open court), would be highly unethical and improper.

So, there's a good chance that it's happening.  Seriously.  In this timeline, I assume the worst.  That has proven to be the safe/correct assumption repeatedly.

While I don't doubt there may be some of that, I presume she has a bunch of MAGA law clerks that can provide plenty of ammunition for her.  My guess is most of them are way smarter than her.

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12 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Just like we know that external parties write laws for lawmakers, could external lawyers be helping Aileen Cannon with her responses and "logic"? 

During the earlier proceedings in which she wrongfully intervened she was pretty clearly entertaining ex parte communications from Trump and his supporters who were clearly influencing her in Fox News appearances. I don't know if that's still happening, but I assume if it's not Fox any more it's something similar. 

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3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Seems odd that the defense is apparently going first in closing arguments. Usually it's the party with the burden of proof. Any insight on that? 

That's how NY rolls apparently

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5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Seems odd that the defense is apparently going first in closing arguments. Usually it's the party with the burden of proof. Any insight on that? 

Read (CNN) that it was a NY thing...  but I don't know shit about it

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Bottom line, what happens in this case doesn't fucking matter.  Acquit him?  He gets stronger.  Convict him?  He gets stronger, because he's persecuted.  He isn't going to prison over this, so that sure doesn't fucking matter.

There is no hope for this country until that fucker dies.  That's it.  That is the only thing that will make ANY difference -- his death.  

History itself depends on a single, poorly-chewed bit of a Big Mac.  That's where we are.

This is where I'm at.  If he's acquitted we are all super fucked.  If he's convicted, maybe some sliver of hope?  The only for sure way to keep him from the white house and destroying the republic is death.  That is it. 

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19 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 

Ex parte communications and assistance like that, not on the record (e.g., not via amicus briefing filed in open court), would be highly unethical and improper.

So, there's a good chance that it's happening.  Seriously.  In this timeline, I assume the worst.  That has proven to be the safe/correct assumption repeatedly.

Yeah, maybe not "external" lawyers, but she does have clerks, two of which were presumably replaced recently with folks that may see that particular clerkship as beneficial to their future endeavors in Trump World...which means they're likely pretty Trumpy themselves. 

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Judge calls defense attorney's comment on sending Trump to prison "outrageous"

Judge Juan Merchan said he'd give a curative instruction as to defense attorney Todd Blanche's remarks about sending Trump to prison.

During his closing arguments, Blanche talked about Cohen's credibility and told the jury: "Then he came in here, he raised his right hand and he lied to each of you repeatedly. You cannot send someone to prison you cannot convict somebody based upon the words of Michael Cohen."

Merchan said Blanche's comment was "outrageous."

"You know that making a comment like that is highly inappropriate. It simply not allowed. Period. It’s hard for me to imagine that was accidental in any way," the judge said, referencing Blanche's experienced career as a prosecutor and a defense attorney.

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass had raised the issue and asked for curative instruction for the "ridiculous comment."

"That was a blatant and wholly inappropriate" effort to get sympathy for Trump, Steinglass told Merchan.

Steinglass also said Merchan should reconsider a curative instruction about retainer agreements because he said Blanche "doubled down that it's perfectly plausibly to have no retainer agreement when that is not the law in New York State." This was debated at the charge conference last week and Merchan said he'd look into the law.

Merchan did not make any comments about a potential curative instruction on the retainer issue.

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25 minutes ago, speed817 said:

He's especially orange today and with handwritten notes....

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Is that a shadow or did he "orange" himself up to his wrist to leave his baby hands lily white?

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29 minutes ago, speed817 said:

He's especially orange today and with handwritten notes....

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I assume that tin is chock full o' high grade beaver tranquilizer

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Judge calls defense attorney's comment on sending Trump to prison "outrageous"

Judge Juan Merchan said he'd give a curative instruction as to defense attorney Todd Blanche's remarks about sending Trump to prison.

During his closing arguments, Blanche talked about Cohen's credibility and told the jury: "Then he came in here, he raised his right hand and he lied to each of you repeatedly. You cannot send someone to prison you cannot convict somebody based upon the words of Michael Cohen."

Merchan said Blanche's comment was "outrageous."

"You know that making a comment like that is highly inappropriate. It simply not allowed. Period. It’s hard for me to imagine that was accidental in any way," the judge said, referencing Blanche's experienced career as a prosecutor and a defense attorney.

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass had raised the issue and asked for curative instruction for the "ridiculous comment."

"That was a blatant and wholly inappropriate" effort to get sympathy for Trump, Steinglass told Merchan.

Steinglass also said Merchan should reconsider a curative instruction about retainer agreements because he said Blanche "doubled down that it's perfectly plausibly to have no retainer agreement when that is not the law in New York State." This was debated at the charge conference last week and Merchan said he'd look into the law.

Merchan did not make any comments about a potential curative instruction on the retainer issue.

Was that an attempt to get sympathy for Trump? My first thought was that it was jury intimidation. You’d better think twice about sending Trump to jail because if he becomes president again then he’s going to come after you. You’ve heard him talk about “retribution,” right?

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First time here and I may regret it :). Did a search and could not find this linked, but the outage may have borked search.

Hartman as Trump in 1990.  The more things change the more they stay the same.

 

 

Little known fact:  long before SNL, Phil Hartman designed over 40 album covers for bands like Crosby Stills Nash, America, Poco, etc.   His brother, John Hartmann (two n's) was a talent manager for CSN and many others. 

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57 minutes ago, speed817 said:

He's especially orange today and with handwritten notes....

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Not to defend Trump in any way at all, but that redditor may have changed the color tone. In an AP update, they mention what the yellow sticky note says, with an accompanying photo focusing on his hands and the note. It's not even close to being that orange in the AP photo. The shading around his wrists is still a little different, but it looks more like a shadow.

 

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A yellow sticky note affixed to the papers Trump carried into court read, “This case should be dismissed by the judge but it’s totally corrupt.” Images of the handwritten note were captured when news photographers were briefly allowed into the courtroom before proceedings started Tuesday.

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The note looks like Trump’s handwriting, in his preferred thick black marker. Trump has in the past carried reminder notes when speaking before cameras about significant news. When he spoke outside his first impeachment trial as president, he carried a handwritten note that said, “I want no quid pro quo.” When he spoke at the White House in 2019 about his push to try to address infrastructure, photographers captured him holding a note that said, “They want to impeach over acts that they did” and “I’m going to keep working for the American people.”

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Seems odd that the defense is apparently going first in closing arguments. Usually it's the party with the burden of proof. Any insight on that? 

In Texas, the prosecution opens and rebuts.  Here, they just got rid of the opening part.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Seems odd that the defense is apparently going first in closing arguments. Usually it's the party with the burden of proof. Any insight on that? 

 

1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

That's how NY rolls apparently

CA too.   

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12 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Was that an attempt to get sympathy for Trump? My first thought was that it was jury intimidation. You’d better think twice about sending Trump to jail because if he becomes president again then he’s going to come after you. You’ve heard him talk about “retribution,” right?

It was calculated and out of bounds.  But it's not like the prosecution is going to push for a mistrial.  So he knew he'd get away with it and there's the slightest chance they wouldn't object (but they did). 

 

I'd estimate it is worse that the jury gets an instruction to disregard any statement about potential sentence because that isn't its role at this stage, which was one of the last things it heard from the defense.  After four hours of listening to the prosecution, it won't remember much of substance about what the defensed argued.

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19 minutes ago, dcbc said:

In Texas, the prosecution opens and rebuts.  Here, they just got rid of the opening part.

Same in Louisiana.  I remember the prosecution going first in the OJ trial, so maybe California’s change in the closing argument order is a more recent thing.

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Personally, I'm looking forward to a guilty verdict so I can have a brief moment of satisfaction before the polls come out and show it resulted in a gain in popularity. 

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4 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Personally, I'm looking forward to a guilty verdict so I can have a brief moment of satisfaction before the polls come out and show it resulted in a gain in popularity. 

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