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Imagine your basis of hating Trump is because of mean tweets, January 6 and “hush money” trial all because liberal media is crooked. Fuck right off. This is my last post in this forum  dumb fucki

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When you're a court, you just grab their asset, and they let you do it!

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Bye bitch. Enjoy living in literal hell if your man Biden is re elected

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3 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

What does professional courtesy have to do with it?

The legal profession may not care much about the use of process to undermine the rule of law but they care A LOT about professional courtesy. 

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Kyrie Eleison

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Seems odd that the defense is apparently going first in closing arguments. Usually it's the party with the burden of proof. Any insight on that? 

in Texas, prosecution has the right to go first, then rebut after defense summation.  however, prosecution can waive their right to go first and reserve both summation and rebuttal after defense presents...which is what i did  the vast majority of times when i was prosecuting.  

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Mo Horn

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7 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Could the jury, in theory, return a verdict today/tonight? 

Depends on how long the prosecution takes for their closing. Then the judge will have to give instructions. Chances are they'll finish today with closing, and start the day tomorrow with instructions. 

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Depends on how long the prosecution takes for their closing. Then the judge will have to give instructions. Chances are they'll finish today with closing, and start the day tomorrow with instructions. 

think it would be Thursday if they don't wrap today, no?

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6 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

If court isn't scheduled tomorrow then yes it will be Thursday. 

With Memorial day Monday... I think court is in sessions tomorrow, but I could be wrong

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4 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

What does professional courtesy have to do with it?

Before a party makes a motion to the court asking for relief, they must confer with opponent about it. 

It is not unusual really, if a judge gets wind of the idea that the conference was half-assed, to deny the motion until the parties hash it out "sincerely." Even when one of the parties is an asshole and won't agree to anything. 

It can be annoying. 

On the other hand, it wouldn't surprise me if Jay Bratt was the government lawyer filing the motion and doing the conference. I am getting the impression from this and some other things that he is a bit of an asshole in his own right. 

 

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5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

On the other hand, it wouldn't surprise me if Jay Bratt was the government lawyer filing the motion and doing the conference. I am getting the impression from this and some other things that he is a bit of an asshole in his own right. 

What’s his Surly handle?

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3 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I don't want to say anything because I don't want to jinx anything, but I think Wed or Thurs could be very big for our country.

I'll make this bet with you:

1) if he is acquitted, he gets an immediate bump in the polls of 3 points or more.

2) if he is convicted, by the time November rolls around, he will be polling within 1 point of where he is polling right now.  That is....no negative effect.

 

Trump can only win, or run in place.  He can't lose.

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2 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Any of our community physicians want comment about what's going on this his upper hands/wrists?  That's not a good sign for somebody of his age.  

I suspect it's a blood surplus resulting from too much blood which is unnecessary to deliver oxygen to his tiny hands.  That, or skin failure.

-Doctor (Juris Doctor)

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2 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

 

what you say is tiny might very well be outcome determinant in november.  this is going to be white knuckle.

Bolded for emphasis.  This is going to be closer than 2020.  And that was white knuckle as FUCK.

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19 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Come on perp walk, one time...

Although, Christ, that probably helps him somehow...

What a time to be alive...

“He perp walks just like Boebert’s kid…..and like our family does.”

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10 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Any of our community physicians want comment about what's going on this his upper hands/wrists?  That's not a good sign for somebody of his age.  

who are you talking about

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2 hours ago, Red Five said:

Could the jury, in theory, return a verdict today/tonight? 

yes. i’d be stunned if they did.

I assume the jury will be sequestered until they rule.  When I was a bailiff, I had a bad situation where the jury was sequestered mid-deliberation at a local motel.   One of the guy’s sons did not know dad was doing jury duty, but thought he was cheating on mom at the motel ‘cause he spotted his car.  One of Spokane’s finest saw the kid peering in a motel window.   The kid and the officer and the motel manager tried to come see the dad, but I stopped them and said they could not speak to my juror.  Cop cared not for a bailiff and got bowed up and said he “was in charge”.  He put his hand on his holster.  I had a Smith model 36 ‘Chief’s Special’ 38 snub nose as my service weapon, and told the guy to chill because I could get to my gun quicker than him - and neither of us needed to be shot over something so stupid when we could call the judge and get his input.  

My judge was bigly unhappy and tore the cop a new asshole for almost causing a mistrial in a week long rape-murder trial.  

(pro-tip for rapist murderers:

Do not kidnap a front desk clerk, but if you do, Try not to fill out a registration card With your name and vehicle number before you leave the scene and go kidnap rape murder)

 

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12 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Do not kidnap a front desk clerk, but if you do, Try not to fill out a registration card With your name and vehicle number before you leave the scene and go kidnap rape murder)

 

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A yellow sticky note affixed to the papers Trump carried into court read, “This case should be dismissed by the judge but it’s totally corrupt.” Images of the handwritten note were captured when news photographers were briefly allowed into the courtroom before proceedings started Tuesday.

Why does he need a sticky note for that?  He already says that a few dozen times a day.

Does he also have one that says, "Man, woman, person, camera, tv."?

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55 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

who are you talking about

The fat orange guy with the tiny hands.  Look at the upper part of his hands and his wrists.  Never mind his coloring, for a guy his size and age...that swelling level is not good.  He doesn't drink but that sharply indicates he is having organ malfunction.  He doesn't know it consciously, but it's happening.  He thinks he's invincible, but his body has begun to devour itself.  Only question remaining is whether we enjoy the hell outta this or he takes us down with him.  

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E Jean Carroll's attorney hints they might take another sip from Dotard's milkshake.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-e-jean-carroll-attack-b2552494.html

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E Jean Carroll’s lawyers have hinted that a new defamation lawsuit could be “on the table” after Donald Trump attacked her yet again in one of his latest Truth Social rants.

On the eve of closing arguments in his hush money trial, the former president took to Truth Social to fire off a “Happy Memorial Day” message to all “the human scum”.

“Happy Memorial Day to All, including the Human Scum that is working so hard to destroy our Once Great Country, & to the Radical Left, Trump Hating Federal Judge in New York that presided over, get this, TWO separate trials, that awarded a woman, who I never met before (a quick handshake at a celebrity event, 25 years ago, doesn’t count!), 91 MILLION DOLLARS for “DEFAMATION,’” he wrote, adding to his growing list of defamatory statements made about Ms Carroll.

Zelensky accuses Biden of 'applauding' Putin

“She didn’t know when the so-called event took place - sometime in the 1990’s - never filed a police report, didn’t have to produce the “dress” that she threatened me with (it showed negative!), & sung my praises in the first half of her CNN Interview with Alison Cooper, but changed her tune in the second half - Gee, I wonder why (UNDER APPEAL!)?

“The Rape charge was dropped by a jury! Or Arthur Engoron, the N.Y. State Wacko Judge who fined me almost 500 Million Dollars (UNDER APPEAL) for DOING NOTHING WRONG, used a Statute that has never been used before, gave me NO JURY, Mar-a-Lago at $18,000,000 - Now for Merchan!”

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Robert Kaplan, Ms Carroll’s lawyer, quickly responded in a statement first posted by The New York Times journalist Maggie Haberman on X.

Writer E Jean Carroll leaves federal court after the verdict in her defamation case against former Donald Trump in New York on January 26 2024 (AFP via Getty Images)

“We have said several times since the last jury verdict in January that all options were on the table,” she said.

“And that remains true today – all options are on the table.”

Despite Mr Trump’s false claims in his Truth Social post, a civil jury last year found that he did sexually abuse Ms Carroll in Manhattan’s luxury Bergdorf Goodman department store back in 1996.

Ms Carroll said that she and Mr Trump randomly bumped into each other and they got chatting, before Mr Trump pinned her against a wall in a dressing room and sexually assaulted her.

The jury also found that he defamed the former Elle magazine columnist when she came forward with the allegations. She was awarded $5m in the verdict.

In a second civil defamation trial in January, Mr Trump was found to have defamed Ms Carroll when he accused her of lying about the attack.

The former president was ordered to pay Ms Carroll $83.3m in damages in that trial.

Despite the rulings, Mr Trump can’t seem to stop lashing out at Ms Carroll and has lodged an appeal.

Donald Trump sits at the defense table in his hush money trial (AP)

His rant came hours before closing arguments were set to begin in his criminal hush money trial in Manhattan.

The former president is charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records over a payment made to adult film star Stormy Daniels ahead of the 2016 presidential election – in a move to silence her about an alleged sexual encounter in 2006, months after Melania Trump gave birth to Barron.

Prosecutors allege Mr Trump’s “fixer” Michael Cohen made the $130,000 payment on his behalf and Mr Trump then reimbursed him after entering the White House. He allegedly fraudulently recorded the reimbursement payments as legal expenses.

The charges have been stepped up to felonies as prosecutors allege the former president committed the crimes in commission of another crime: to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.

After weeks of testimony, the trial is now nearing its end, with jurors set to begin deliberations as soon as Wednesday and decide Mr Trump’s fate.

 

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59 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

yes. i’d be stunned if they did.

I assume the jury will be sequestered until they rule.  When I was a bailiff, I had a bad situation where the jury was sequestered mid-deliberation at a local motel.   One of the guy’s sons did not know dad was doing jury duty, but thought he was cheating on mom at the motel ‘cause he spotted his car.  One of Spokane’s finest saw the kid peering in a motel window.   The kid and the officer and the motel manager tried to come see the dad, but I stopped them and said they could not speak to my juror.  Cop cared not for a bailiff and got bowed up and said he “was in charge”.  He put his hand on his holster.  I had a Smith model 36 ‘Chief’s Special’ 38 snub nose as my service weapon, and told the guy to chill because I could get to my gun quicker than him - and neither of us needed to be shot over something so stupid when we could call the judge and get his input.  

My judge was bigly unhappy and tore the cop a new asshole for almost causing a mistrial in a week long rape-murder trial.  

(pro-tip for rapist murderers:

Do not kidnap a front desk clerk, but if you do, Try not to fill out a registration card With your name and vehicle number before you leave the scene and go kidnap rape murder)

 

I feel terrible for the victim but one reason that I love Surly is that in no way can I get this story in my current social circle.

The internet sucks for a myriad of reasons, but Surly is not one of them.

Thanks @Gatorubet. I guess there’s one more reason to be headed to the SEC other than the 50-75 other ones and the future stability of our athletic program:

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5 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

The internet sucks for a myriad of reasons, but Surly is not one of them.

Thanks @Gatorubet. I guess there’s one more reason to be headed to the SEC other than the 50-75 other ones and the future stability of our athletic program:

Surly is awesome. Texas coming to the SEC makes us better in every sport, and increases our academic prestige. I think only 3 or 4 SEC institutions are AAU members. I know this won’t be popular, but Texas and Florida are very similar in academics and athletics, granted not with your past history. Both Big-Brother land grant universities, both hated by the A&Ms and FSUs of the world because we are what they ain’t.  

Thanks for the kind words. 

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So more on Cannons latest. Apparently at 530 pm on Friday the government sent Trumpco an email about their gag order motion, which was formatted as a condition to avoid pretrial detention,which is actually a bit more serious than the other gag orders, enforceable only by contempt. This would be to revoke his "bail" if he violates the conditions. 

Trumpco offered to review and discuss on Monday. The government declined and filed on Friday. And declined to identify the statements by Trump on which it was based (those referring to lethal force by the warrant team and to planting evidence). 

It was Jay Bratt on the motion.  The details may be off but this is the gist of it. 

That was a bit of a dick move by the government, even if it was likely futile. Pretty aggressive at any rate. 

The saving grace for the government is that they were apparently candid about the non-conference instead of pretending that they really did confer. 

You could rightfully expect just about any US District Judge in America to do what Cannon did here. Trumpco asked for sanctions and she declined. 

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I ought have known  those cultures which create shamans would also be caught up in the desecration of the Liar, but I dismissed buffalo wazoo as a one off.  #TeamHorseBoy
 

I guess simulation is another word for prophecy, in terms of structure a person grasps at, in order to make sense of utter chaos.

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1 hour ago, Red Five said:

I'm so glad all the mini-dotards have adopted his "the whole country knows it's nonsense!" bullshit.

Bad news peeps.  My X account reveals that this young African-American GOP fan with a blue checkmark learned from the media covering the trial today that the prosecution totally lost the jury with their long bullshit.  Apparently, at least seven of the jurors will vote to quit Trump and this deliberation thing is absolutely a waste of time unless shenanigans happen.

Never forget, the vast unwashed who listen to Fox and mini foxes have heard the entire time from those “news” sources that the prosecution has been destroyed time and time again by Trump’s lawyers, and that Cohen was proven to be the worlds biggest liar, which destroyed the criminal case.    

They will read about the seven jurors who have been turned to trump’s team. The fact that that is not how it works, that is not how any of this works, will be lost on them completely should a conviction happen.  But rest assured that the neck beards will be furious that Joe Biden and the liberals got the verdict changed. 

It was stollen people!!!!

Violence is almost assured. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Bad news peeps.  My X account reveals that this young African-American GOP fan with a blue checkmark learned from the media covering the trial today that the prosecution totally lost the jury with their long bullshit.  Apparently, at least seven of the jurors will vote to quit Trump and this deliberation thing is absolutely a waste of time unless shenanigans happen.

Never forget, the vast unwashed who listen to Fox and mini foxes have heard the entire time from those “news” sources that the prosecution has been destroyed time and time again by Trump’s lawyers, and that Cohen was proven to be the worlds biggest liar, which destroyed the criminal case.    

They will read about the seven jurors who have been turned to trump’s team. The fact that that is not how it works, that is not how any of this works, will be lost on them completely should a conviction happen.  But rest assured that the neck beards will be furious that Joe Biden and the liberals got the verdict changed. 

It was stollen people!!!!

Violence is almost assured. 

 

I'm gonna go out a limb and guess they are in for a surprise by about 2 tomorrow.  

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