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[Homercles 10206]

Gotta love the logic:

”Being convicted is going to fire up his base, the justice department is corrupt”

”Being found not guilty is going to fire up his base, the justice department is corrupt”

There is literally nothing you can say that will change their minds and pull them from the cult.  Beyond putting him out of reach forever, his death will be fascinating in seeing if anyone can fill that void for them.  

[YGIFS 19453]

37 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

30 days of being stormy’s butler

And this is customary in your legal system?  

[TwiceHorn 31677]

One sign of how incredibly fucked up things are is that we just accept that if elected, Trump will terminate these cases, to the extent that he can.

That is so utterly corrupt that it is beyond comprehension.

Of all the fuckery Nixon got up to, it was the similar Saturday Night Massacre that sealed his fate, not the break-in, not the cover-up, not the tapes revealing same, but the attempt to short circuit proceedings against him.

Fuck Trump.  Fuck the GQP.  Fuck anyone who supports these notions.

[Fudge Nuggets 19276]

2 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

As someone who enjoys watching pornography, likes presidential biographies, bribes my kids with desert for their cooperation, and then lies to their mom about said desert…. This hits close to home.

dessert

[Biff Tannen 45763]

2 minutes ago, Homercles said:

Gotta love the logic:

”Being convicted is going to fire up his base, the justice department is corrupt”

”Being found not guilty is going to fire up his base, the justice department is corrupt”

There is literally nothing you can say that will change their minds and pull them from the cult.  Beyond putting him out of reach forever, his death will be fascinating in seeing if anyone can fill that void for them.  

Being dead is going to fire up his base. The deep state had him murdered!

[Longhorn94 2458]

I don't know when or why but they will turn on him one day and act like they never supported him.

It will almost be as crazy as watching them suddenly be friends with Russia or against international trade...

[Fudge Nuggets 19276]

2 hours ago, locodos said:

We should hang out.

-Frito

You want to watch porn with another dude while eating dessert with his kids?

[Dnaguy 12327]

6 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

dessert

Don’t tell me how to raise my kids

[Biff Tannen 45763]

2 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Real question: why was he apparently allowed to just leave the courthouse after the verdict and go back to his stupid tower?  Why no handcuffs?  Would anyone else have been allowed to do the same?

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19242]

On my way to the office, I might have gone down 5th Ave.

Some amazing Trump fan yelled at me, "Suck my dick, bitch."

Lol. Not even with Icono's mouth. Glad to see misogyny is alive and well with Trump stans.  FYI, more media than Trumpies. And most Trump haters are where we have all been during the trial, at work because we have jobs and responsibilities and aren't members of a cult.

[jimmyjazz 46470]

That cop has a "hey, what did *I* do?" look on his face.

[mr.goodkat 464]

11 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Real question: why was he apparently allowed to just leave the courthouse after the verdict and go back to his stupid tower?  Why no handcuffs?  Would anyone else have been allowed to do the same?

he hasn't been sentenced yet ?

 

[Gatorubet 30391]

Real question: why was he apparently allowed to just leave the courthouse after the verdict and go back to his stupid tower?  Why no handcuffs?  Would anyone else have been allowed to do the same?

For nonviolent crimes, it is not at all unusual.   And while you and I would enjoy watching it, there is no reason to subject the court and jail personnel to the extra expense and work of protecting a former president and his Secret Service contingent at the local pokey until his sentencing.   One presumes that an ex-President should be among the lowest flight risks that could be conceived. 
The one good thing about Trump is if he flees the country to Russia, and even if tortured, all he could tell Putin about our nation’s military defense is, “We’ve got a lot of really great weapons, bigly deadly, that when I was president were all used in the best way.  Name them? I don’t know all their names, because each one has a different number. And then they have nicknames too, it’s very confusing.  Jarad might know.  What, our nuclear submarines you say?  I can tell you they go all around the world without coming up for air - it’s really amazing - and carry missiles and stuff. No, I’m serious. Each submarine has many missiles…”

[dcbc 14568]

1 hour ago, South Austin said:

Yeah, I'm thinking house arrest at the very most.  Given what I understand as the max time for these crimes, weighed with the extreme hassle and expense in incarcerating a former President and all the security and other accommodations that go into that, I don't see this judge sending him to prison for even a nominal amount of time.  In any event, he's still an orange fat fuck felon.

Is house arrest an option when the convicted felon is a Florida resident?

[Fudge Nuggets 19276]

1 minute ago, dcbc said:

Is house arrest an option when the convicted felon is a Florida resident?

Does it have to be his house?  Or can the sentence be served in one of his hillbilly fan's shack?

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20619]

 

 

 

 

[BamaATL 16593]

Oh the fucking irony of rich white people I've overheard say they no longer trust the justice system.  

[dcbc 14568]

18 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Real question: why was he apparently allowed to just leave the courthouse after the verdict and go back to his stupid tower?  Why no handcuffs?  Would anyone else have been allowed to do the same?

I think he posted a bond when he was indicted.  He's still covered by the bond until he is sentenced.

[tx 3 putt 77921]

1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

 

trump - they can be judges ???

[SydneyCarton 48296]

11 hours ago, shnsajax said:

Old fucks at the bar are talking about moving to Venezuela if Biden wins again .

 

10 hours ago, Shut up Lou Holtz said:

Pull out a map and see if they can find it 

They want to move to a country that is pouring thousands of those illegal immigrants they fucking hate into the United States? And is a socialist one to boot? Becoming a lib to own the libs. 
 

[Francisco 2.0 32432]

 

 

[tx 3 putt 77921]

 

[locodos 5423]

11 hours ago, shnsajax said:

Old fucks at the bar are talking about moving to Venezuela if Biden wins again .

you know, how I know, they've never been to Venezuela?

 

[SydneyCarton 48296]

11 hours ago, Slacks said:

What's crazy is Ive meet icono in person...

Icono is my brother, just like the most of the rest of you are... Sometimes our brothers say and do things we wouldn't say or do, and we can't quite understand why. 

Good thing for him, and for us, is Trump ain't gonna do shit aside from blow a few dollars.

At what point, when someone you claim is your brother, espouses thoughts and ideals that literally would result in the hurting of you and your family, do you stop viewing him as a brother and just a piece of shit?

[immamac 43555]

6 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

Florida let's you vote if the state of the felony allows those felons to vote. New York felons can vote. 

['stache 21900]

40 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

One sign of how incredibly fucked up things are is that we just accept that if elected, Trump will terminate these cases, to the extent that he can.

That is so utterly corrupt that it is beyond comprehension.

Of all the fuckery Nixon got up to, it was the similar Saturday Night Massacre that sealed his fate, not the break-in, not the cover-up, not the tapes revealing same, but the attempt to short circuit proceedings against him.

Fuck Trump.  Fuck the GQP.  Fuck anyone who supports these notions.

I think the most fucked up part of this, by far, is that not only he, but other prominent elected officials, are repeating his lie that he wasn't allowed to testify in his own defense and that he wasn't allowed to call witnesses in his defense. Especially since a major news outlet is going with that lie and telling it to their viewers. It's by far the most egregious part of this and it's not even close.

[tx 3 putt 77921]

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

I think the most fucked up part of this, by far, is that not only he, but other prominent elected officials, are repeating his lie that he wasn't allowed to testify in his own defense and that he wasn't allowed to call witnesses in his defense. Especially since a major news outlet is going with that lie and telling it to their viewers. It's by far the most egregious part of this and it's not even close.

 

[atomheartbevo 90041]

3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Anyone who sleeps with pornographic actresses and then runs for president and pays them money to shut up and then fabricates expense records could have this happen to them! 

Well, Trump is trying to explain it on social media

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112535601905420886

My bookkeeper called a “Legal Expense,” on the “tiny” description line of the Ledger, a “Legal Expense,” openly paid to my lawyer, at that time a fully accredited one. I was not involved in that designation, but what else would you have called it? It was, in fact, a LEGAL EXPENSE. That is the so-called “CRIME.” On top of that, I wasn’t allowed by the judge to use, in any form, the standard RELIANCE ON COUNSEL DEFENSE (ADVICE OF COUNSEL!). My lawyer, at the time, did virtually everything on the NDA (NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT), and I assumed that what he did was correct. I did nothing wrong, and frankly, there was nothing done wrong - NDA’s are standard, commonly used, and LEGAL. MAGA2024! WITCH HUNT! IF THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ME, IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE!

[YGIFS 19453]

2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Speaking of Venezuela.  

[RPM 26426]

47 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

dessert

Maybe his kids like sand. Did you think about that?

[tx 3 putt 77921]

He probably thinks the Supreme Court is going to save him on these state charges 

[SydneyCarton 48296]

7 hours ago, Rimbo said:

This has already happened. Moose out front should've told ya.

 

While this statement is true, what you're failing to understand in the context of Icono is that he is keenly aware of what the party has become, and it's still not even remotely close to how right wing he wants it to be. He wants the Christian Taliban, full stop. 

[jimmyjazz 46470]

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IF THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ME, IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE!

Not me.  I've never cheated on my wife, much less with a porn star.  It's remarkably easy to avoid the need to dole out hush money.

[C-Man 27347]

Elon doesn’t really think things through does he?

[immamac 43555]

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Well, Trump is trying to explain it on social media

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112535601905420886

My bookkeeper called a “Legal Expense,” on the “tiny” description line of the Ledger, a “Legal Expense,” openly paid to my lawyer, at that time a fully accredited one. I was not involved in that designation, but what else would you have called it? It was, in fact, a LEGAL EXPENSE. That is the so-called “CRIME.” On top of that, I wasn’t allowed by the judge to use, in any form, the standard RELIANCE ON COUNSEL DEFENSE (ADVICE OF COUNSEL!). My lawyer, at the time, did virtually everything on the NDA (NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT), and I assumed that what he did was correct. I did nothing wrong, and frankly, there was nothing done wrong - NDA’s are standard, commonly used, and LEGAL. MAGA2024! WITCH HUNT! IF THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ME, IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE!

Yeah that's a misdemeanor if fraudulent which it wasn't. There is nothing wrong with paying your lawyer to get someone to shut the fuck up. 

It's that he did it specifically for the purposes of holding public office and using campaign funds to do it in a weird accounting way. 

What he did wasn't illegal. The way he did it and why he did it made it illegal. 

[RPM 26426]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

What he did wasn't illegal. The way he did it and why he did it made it illegal. 

It's never the actual act that gets you in trouble. It's the cover-up. Fucking a porn actress? Completely legal. Using campaign funds for a payoff? Not so much.

[immamac 43555]

2 minutes ago, RPM said:

It's never the actual act that gets you in trouble. It's the cover-up. Fucking a porn actress? Completely legal. Using campaign funds for a payoff? Not so much.

Even the campaign funds for payoff is murky. What makes it clear is that he did it with intent to defraud/conceal from the public with campaign funds. It's a nuance that's important because money is money and it flows weird in these big messy orgs. This was intentional 

[tx 3 putt 77921]

3 minutes ago, RPM said:

It's never the actual act that gets you in trouble. It's the cover-up. Fucking a porn actress? Completely legal. Using campaign funds for a payoff? Not so much.

the cover up is always worst than the lie. being a cheap SoB really paid off here 😂

 

[TexasEd 8142]

13 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

Also, these were crimes committed before he was president, so why would presidential immunity be considered?  

He figured out the reimbursement and signed the checks after he was president, while in the Oval Office, but yeah, the main acts were in October 2016.

12 hours ago, UnivTex34 said:

What’s funny about Icono/ @Macklemore that he doesn’t understand, while he may not be the first to be deported under a Trump dictatorship, he will be second. Brown and having sucked cock for drugs, puts him in a class that actually may move him into the first category. He’s literally the poster boy for leopards eating faces party. It’s fucking hilarious.

Oh, where does that put Madison Cawthorne on the list?  Crippled, congressional cuck, sucks cock at coke fueled orgies

[C-Man 27347]

25 minutes ago, immamac said:

Florida let's you vote if the state of the felony allows those felons to vote. New York felons can vote. 

Yeah, I learned that sometime last night. What a country!

[Red Five 41066]

I think the most fucked up part of this, by far, is that not only he, but other prominent elected officials, are repeating his lie that he wasn't allowed to testify in his own defense and that he wasn't allowed to call witnesses in his defense. Especially since a major news outlet is going with that lie and telling it to their viewers. It's by far the most egregious part of this and it's not even close.

Dotard’s attorney is going on tv and blaming the prosecution for not calling witnesses that would have helped the defense.

[C-Man 27347]

This is making the rounds

[MrBig 5507]

6 minutes ago, immamac said:

Even the campaign funds for payoff is murky. What makes it clear is that he did it with intent to defraud/conceal from the public with campaign funds. It's a nuance that's important because money is money and it flows weird in these big messy orgs. This was intentional 

He had sex with a porn star in 2006 and had Michael Cohen use his own money to pay her a month before the 2016 election to kill the story. Trump’s business records were falsified by then making payments to Cohen under the guise of it being a legal expense. This is what made it a felony, because he did it with the intent of influencing the election a month before the election when he had sex with her a decade prior. 

[Francisco 2.0 32432]

Meanwhile, if any Republicans wish to use his guilty verdict as a fundraising tool:

 

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/05/30/trump-hush-money-criminal-trial/trumps-warning-00160930

 

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Donald Trump’s campaign is sending a blunt message to down ballot Republicans who are looking to fundraise for themselves off of the ex-president’s conviction: Back off.

Trump’s political operation views the guilty verdict in the New York hush money trial as a small-dollar goldmine — so much so that they are warning other Republicans not to raise money off it and siphon off money that could otherwise go to the Trump campaign.

“Any Republican elected official, candidate or party committee siphoning money from President Trump’s donors are no better than Judge Merchan’s daughter,” said Trump co-campaign manager Chris LaCivita. “We’re keeping a list, we’ll be checking it twice and we aren’t in the spirit of Christmas.”

 

 

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Trump’s campaign has sent out a stream of fundraising appeals to prospective donors – one text message sent Thursday evening asked supporters to “Stand with” Trump “following this injustice” — with an eye toward filling its coffers. But they aren’t alone. Some candidates, such as Colorado Republican Dave Williams, have been looking to direct proceeds to themselves.

Williams, who is running for a congressional seat and has received Trump’s endorsement, sent out a fundraising message in which he derided the conviction as a “disgrace and mockery of the principles our nation was founded on.” The message included a red button asking donors to “STAND WITH TRUMP & DAVE.” But after clicking on it, contributors are sent to a landing page in which donations are solely sent to Williams. The Williams campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

 

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Trump advisers have repeatedly warned down-ballot Republicans from fundraising off the ex-president without their consent. Last year, the Trump campaign warned that the former president would not endorse candidates who used consulting firms that used Trump’s name, image, and likeness in their fundraising pitches. And last month, the Trump campaign sent a letter to Republican vendors asking for a 5 percent cut of any appeal that used Trump’s name, image, or likeness.

Some Republicans are sending out pitches whose proceeds will be directed wholly to Trump’s campaign or that will be split between them – something Trump advisers say they are fine with. Several prospective Trump vice presidential picks, such as South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott, Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance and New York Rep. Elise Stefanik, posted links on X directing supporters to a donation page where contributions are solely sent to the Trump operation.

 

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Trump’s campaign has aggressively fundraised off his legal battles, seeing them as a way to gin up grassroots contributions. Depending on how much Trump raises off the hush money trial verdict, it could help him close a nagging cash deficit he is facing against President Joe Biden. Through the end of April, Biden had $84 million in the bank, compared to Trump’s $49 million.

 

 

[atomheartbevo 90041]

11 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Not me.  I've never cheated on my wife, much less with a porn star.  It's remarkably easy to avoid the need to dole out hush money.

I enjoy that he’s on social media this morning telling the world it’s completely okay to pay off a porn star to keep her from talking about their affair.  

Once upon a time such things were frowned upon.  Or even the hint of impropriety. 
 

[David Dennison 19117]

They can't help themselves.

 

[immamac 43555]

2 minutes ago, MrBig said:

He had sex with a porn star in 2006 and had Michael Cohen use his own money to pay her a month before the 2016 election to kill the story. Trump’s business records were falsified by then making payments to Cohen under the guise of it being a legal expense. This is what made it a felony, because he did it with the intent of influencing the election a month before the election when he had sex with her a decade prior. 

Yeah that's what makes this illegal. Not actually paying her to stfu and go away that's totally fine and what they are leaning on. They are conveniently omitting the fact that he did this with intent to influence the election. 

His lawyer may not have understood the charges based on his interviews. It's not that complicated but it is not straightforward either which leaves tons of room for the spin that's happening. 

[Rimbo 26420]

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19242]

6 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Dotard’s attorney is going on tv and blaming the prosecution for not calling witnesses that would have helped the defense.

The only witness that could have possibly helped the defense was Dotard himself.  Also, couldn't the defense have called witnesses to poke holes in the prosecution's case?  I think the only people they wanted to call were election experts.  Blanche is a moron and a schill.

[Hank Kingsley 21083]

I've pretty much avoided watching politics on TV for the last 4-5 years. Watching Trump ramble and pathologically lie about everything right now. At this point, I'm not even angry with Trump. He is who he's always been. He's an absolute joke. 

Pretty much all my frustration is with the Republican party and their voters. When did they lose their pride? How can you morally attach yourself to a clown?