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[TexArcher 37774]

27 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

Why are democrats in the bag for this guy? It's weird.

Why are people who aren't science deniers siding with one of the world's foremost scientists against science deniers?

Yeah, that's a real thinker.

[Shaddie 1651]

1 hour ago, Shaddie said:

Other side of his sign said “Trump is a cancer on democracy”.  Location was Uxbridge MA.  

[Brisketexan 105121]

11 minutes ago, GenXer said:

I wouldn’t characterize people that support Fauci as democrats. People that support(ed) Fauci were concerned about minimizing the effects of a global pandemic.

If you characterize people that heed the advice of the CDC and virologists and science exclusively as democrats, that probably says more about you. At this point, Fauci is a symbol of pragmatism that stands against the legion of conspiracy minded morons.

This.  And note that this approach also allows for the conclusion of "and maybe he got some of the response wrong, even way-wrong."  Because people were figuring this shit out on the fly, and coming up with the best solutions they thought applicable in the moment.  And there were indeed alternate/counter-approaches that were out there that they opted against -- correctly, wrongly, and sometimes still undetermined.  And on top of THAT, the choices were often "bad choice A" vs. "bad choice B," and they had to pick the less bad one.  And then get attacked for "look at this!  The option he picked was bad!"  No shit.  ALL options are bad.

And finally, the lambasting him as some evil mastermind director of some sinister conspiracy is the thing that pisses me off the most.  Over my not-short life, I've had to deal with countless government bureaucrats, functionaries, administrators, and sometimes quite senior folks in that respect.  My old man was a federal regulator in the field; I have had to deal with regulators at various levels throughout my career; I have friends and family who have been and are involved at all levels of the government (including people who are on a first-name basis with senators and presidents). 

And through all of that, I HAVE met a few "true believers."  For example, I had to deal with an old hippie gal at the EPA who wouldn't let go of an issue, with little vision of the practicality of things.  But 99.9% of the time....these people are just fucking people, man.  They have no sinister agenda, no secret plan.  They have a mission/purpose that is no secret (Fauci worked for the infectious disease agency....which deals with...infectious diseases).  They pursue that mission using the best available information, with good intentions, to the best of their ability.  We don't really hear about it when they succeed, and YES, sometimes they fail (like literally every other human being, public or private sector).  Was Fauci involved in research of coronoaviruses?  Shit, it would have been criminally stupid and impossible to explain if he HADN'T BEEN - they had long ago been flagged as a key infectious disease risk in the wake of our human experience with SARS and MERS.  "A-HA!  Fauci was involved in researching coronaviruses [because they were a known fucking risk of giving rise to a pandemic] and waddaya know, a coronavirus caused a pandemic!  DO THE MATH, SHEEPLE!"

I worked closely with lots of people in official positions responding to the pandemic.  There was no secret agenda, no hidden plan.  People were dying, resources were strained, solutions were hard to find.  They did the best they could.  The fucking psychotic Republican need to find a demon everywhere they look (gee, every accusation is a confession) is fucking infuriating, assholish, and flat-out evil.  It's one of several things I hate them for.

Fauci may have done a great job, he may have done a terrible job....odds are, he did a job that was something in between.  But characterizing him as an evil mass murderer and shit is psychotic, twisted, and sick.  And people who do that are psychotic, twisted, and sick.  And I hate them.  A lot.

[Underdog 28623]

2 hours ago, Nivek said:

How would a corndog impact your decision?

 

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

56 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

Why are democrats in the bag for this guy? It's weird.

I think the Republicans obsession with him is far, far weirder.  We experienced an unprecedented pandemic.  The guy who was essentially the Michael Jordan of infectious diseases became the face of the fight against it.  Republicans realized early-on that they needed a boogeyman to pin the horror of 2020 on (and couldn't pick the leader of the country, for obvious reasons) so they settled on this guy.  

There should be absolutely no reason anyone is still talking about him in 2024, let alone calling him before congress to yell at him.

[Shaddie 1651]

59 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

Why are democrats in the bag for this guy? It's weird.

To think there are people who question him is mind blowing. He ain’t perfect and he made some mistakes. He also said Covid is deadly. Can you show me where it wasn’t?

[Foosters 17856]

I see pokoloco has dropped in for his bi-annual, vapid observation. 

good talk, russ

[Gatorubet 30233]

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Court response:

“Well, Donald, if you somehow win your appeal, you will find yourself in court again being tried by the same people for the same thing. Since you are so bigly sure you will win that appeal because of my rigged trial, I simply can’t terminate the gag order……because according to you, I will need it again…… at least that’s what my daughter says.”

[Scheiss Meister 8407]

2 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I think the Republicans obsession with him is far, far weirder.  We experienced an unprecedented pandemic.  The guy who was essentially the Michael Jordan of infectious diseases became the face of the fight against it.  Republicans realized early-on that they needed a boogeyman to pin the horror of 2020 on (and couldn't pick the leader of the country, for obvious reasons) so they settled on this guy.  

There should be absolutely no reason anyone is still talking about him in 2024, let alone calling him before congress to yell at him.

Don't forget that Dr. Fauci had the temerity to contradict their orange diety when he said stupid shit like the government should experiment on people by injecting bleach or Lysol into them.  The Fauci-haters that I worked with mainly objected, and I quote one of them directly, "He thinks he's smarter than the President.  He can't contradict the President!"

[bolverk 29671]

1 hour ago, Pokoloco said:

Why are democrats in the bag for this guy? It's weird.

 

6 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I see pokoloco has dropped in for his bi-annual, vapid observation. 

good talk, russ

The last time he popped in here with his drive-by bullshit, he said he wouldn't be back, and yet here he is again.

 

[Biff Tannen 45678]

5 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

The Fauci-haters that I worked with mainly objected, and I quote one of them directly, "He thinks he's smarter than the President.  He can't contradict the President!"

I don’t think I would be able to handle that gracefully. 

[bolverk 29671]

4 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Don't forget that Dr. Fauci had the temerity to contradict their orange diety when he said stupid shit like the government should experiment on people by injecting bleach or Lysol into them.  The Fauci-haters that I worked with mainly objected, and I quote one of them directly, "He thinks he's smarter than the President.  He can't contradict the President!"

That person is a bootlicking authoritarian. Tell him to go to Russia, North Korea, or China if he believes Dear Leader can't be contradicted.

[Shaddie 1651]

2 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

The last time he popped in here with his drive-by bullshit, he said he wouldn't be back, and yet here he is again.

 

Like most of Maga they can’t remember what they said yesterday, much less a few months ago. 

[4th&Five 41532]

 

[WhatTheBuck 28779]

1 hour ago, Pokoloco said:

Why are democrats in the bag for this guy? It's weird.

Is this a joke?

[jimmyjazz 45915]

1 minute ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Is this a joke?

It's his semiannual turd in the punchbowl.

[Shaddie 1651]

5 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Is this a joke?

It’s laughable but not a joke. 

[StassneyHorn 6575]

Taco Tuesday Happy hour posts. Bout to start mine, poko has a couple time zone advantage

[Shaddie 1651]

45 minutes ago, Shaddie said:

Other side of his sign said “Trump is a cancer on democracy”.  Location was Uxbridge MA.  

If he is there tomorrow when I drive by I’m stopping and thanking him.

[HenryJames 66048]

wut

[LCHorn 2620]

1 hour ago, Pokoloco said:

Why are democrats in the bag for this guy? It's weird.

Well see, it used to be true that not being stupid was a bipartisan goal…

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19101]

50 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Don't forget that Dr. Fauci had the temerity to contradict their orange diety when he said stupid shit like the government should experiment on people by injecting bleach or Lysol into them.  The Fauci-haters that I worked with mainly objected, and I quote one of them directly, "He thinks he's smarter than the President.  He can't contradict the President!"

I fucking worm is smarter than former President and 34-time convicted felon Donald J. Trump.

[Bozo_Casanova 26451]

2 hours ago, Pokoloco said:

Why are democrats in the bag for this guy? It's weird.

[Gil Bang 25950]

 

 

[Js1 85320]

Come on Aileen

[Aqua Buddha 14595]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  And note that this approach also allows for the conclusion of "and maybe he got some of the response wrong, even way-wrong."  Because people were figuring this shit out on the fly, and coming up with the best solutions they thought applicable in the moment.  And there were indeed alternate/counter-approaches that were out there that they opted against -- correctly, wrongly, and sometimes still undetermined.  And on top of THAT, the choices were often "bad choice A" vs. "bad choice B," and they had to pick the less bad one.  And then get attacked for "look at this!  The option he picked was bad!"  No shit.  ALL options are bad.

And finally, the lambasting him as some evil mastermind director of some sinister conspiracy is the thing that pisses me off the most.  Over my not-short life, I've had to deal with countless government bureaucrats, functionaries, administrators, and sometimes quite senior folks in that respect.  My old man was a federal regulator in the field; I have had to deal with regulators at various levels throughout my career; I have friends and family who have been and are involved at all levels of the government (including people who are on a first-name basis with senators and presidents). 

And through all of that, I HAVE met a few "true believers."  For example, I had to deal with an old hippie gal at the EPA who wouldn't let go of an issue, with little vision of the practicality of things.  But 99.9% of the time....these people are just fucking people, man.  They have no sinister agenda, no secret plan.  They have a mission/purpose that is no secret (Fauci worked for the infectious disease agency....which deals with...infectious diseases).  They pursue that mission using the best available information, with good intentions, to the best of their ability.  We don't really hear about it when they succeed, and YES, sometimes they fail (like literally every other human being, public or private sector).  Was Fauci involved in research of coronoaviruses?  Shit, it would have been criminally stupid and impossible to explain if he HADN'T BEEN - they had long ago been flagged as a key infectious disease risk in the wake of our human experience with SARS and MERS.  "A-HA!  Fauci was involved in researching coronaviruses [because they were a known fucking risk of giving rise to a pandemic] and waddaya know, a coronavirus caused a pandemic!  DO THE MATH, SHEEPLE!"

I worked closely with lots of people in official positions responding to the pandemic.  There was no secret agenda, no hidden plan.  People were dying, resources were strained, solutions were hard to find.  They did the best they could.  The fucking psychotic Republican need to find a demon everywhere they look (gee, every accusation is a confession) is fucking infuriating, assholish, and flat-out evil.  It's one of several things I hate them for.

Fauci may have done a great job, he may have done a terrible job....odds are, he did a job that was something in between.  But characterizing him as an evil mass murderer and shit is psychotic, twisted, and sick.  And people who do that are psychotic, twisted, and sick.  And I hate them.  A lot.

The acreage he takes up in their mind is bizarre.  Him and Gottlieb said the same things 100% of the time and none of them even know who Gottlieb is despite him being on TV all of the time back then.

[TwiceHorn 31457]

12 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

The acreage he takes up in their mind is bizarre.  Him and Gottlieb said the same things 100% of the time and none of them even know who Gottlieb is despite him being on TV all of the time back then.

He's part of the dEeP STatE!

[HenryJames 66048]

25 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Come on Aileen

[Horn Dog 9838]

2 hours ago, Scheiss Meister said:

The Fauci-haters that I worked with mainly objected, and I quote one of them directly, "He thinks he's smarter than the President.  He can't contradict the President!"

Remind them of this iron-clad principle next time they disagree with Biden

[RDCanecutter 26426]

2 hours ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Don't forget that Dr. Fauci had the temerity to contradict their orange diety when he said stupid shit like the government should experiment on people by injecting bleach or Lysol into them.  The Fauci-haters that I worked with mainly objected, and I quote one of them directly, "He thinks he's smarter than the President.  He can't contradict the President!"

This is how you decide who gets to clean out the sump pump.

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Come on Aileen

 

 

 

[Scheiss Meister 8407]

23 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

This is how you decide who gets to clean out the sump pump.

I like your thinking, but alas, this was an electrician who was not under my supervision.  Those who were under my supervision had learned discretion by this time.  Of course, cleaning out sump pumps and such was part of that process.

[YGIFS 19450]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Come on Aileen

Yeah, but who knows what she means?  

We are far too young and clever and things won't ever change.  

[NAVY 6740]

Surly, The Musical 

[BamaATL 16593]

3 minutes ago, NAVY said:

Surly, The Musical 

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and guess that the Surly version of Oklahoma would be far more colorful and entertaining.  

 

Just saying.  

[TwiceHorn 31457]

7 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and guess that the Surly version of Oklahoma would be far more colorful and entertaining.  

 

Just saying.  

 

[Bullneck 19084]

4 hours ago, Pokoloco said:

Why are democrats in the bag for this guy? It's weird.

You're a fucking moron.

**************************

I watched 2H's video and somehow this came up in the 'for you.'

 

 

Edited June 5 by Bullneck

[NAVY 6740]

10 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and guess that the Surly version of Oklahoma would be far more colorful and entertaining.  

 

Just saying.  

Oklahoma sucks so yeah 

[YGIFS 19450]

1 minute ago, Bullneck said:

You're a fucking moron.

Oh yeah?  If he's such a fucking moron, how can he do all his own research on Covid and the vaccines?  During snack time, before nap, using National Geographic for Kids?  Huh?  

[Bullneck 19084]

10 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Oh yeah?  If he's such a fucking moron, how can he do all his own research on Covid and the vaccines?  During snack time, before nap, using National Geographic for Kids?  Huh?  

Speaking of Pokoloko and doing your own research, I bet he aced this:

Edited June 5 by Bullneck

[atomheartbevo 89659]

24 minutes ago, NAVY said:

Surly, The Musical 

19 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and guess that the Surly version of Oklahoma would be far more colorful and entertaining.  

Just saying.  

It’ll end up with restraining orders, just like Hall and Oates.

[Willfully Horn 8014]

17 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

You're a fucking moron.

**************************

I watched 2H's video and somehow this came up in the 'for you.'

 

 

Borderline blasphemy.

[tx 3 putt 76932]

[DixonHur 11301]

21 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

CSB/

One of these people financed a movie I produced nearly 20 years ago.

[Mdhorn 5949]

4 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  And note that this approach also allows for the conclusion of "and maybe he got some of the response wrong, even way-wrong."  Because people were figuring this shit out on the fly, and coming up with the best solutions they thought applicable in the moment.  And there were indeed alternate/counter-approaches that were out there that they opted against -- correctly, wrongly, and sometimes still undetermined.  And on top of THAT, the choices were often "bad choice A" vs. "bad choice B," and they had to pick the less bad one.  And then get attacked for "look at this!  The option he picked was bad!"  No shit.  ALL options are bad.

And finally, the lambasting him as some evil mastermind director of some sinister conspiracy is the thing that pisses me off the most.  Over my not-short life, I've had to deal with countless government bureaucrats, functionaries, administrators, and sometimes quite senior folks in that respect.  My old man was a federal regulator in the field; I have had to deal with regulators at various levels throughout my career; I have friends and family who have been and are involved at all levels of the government (including people who are on a first-name basis with senators and presidents). 

And through all of that, I HAVE met a few "true believers."  For example, I had to deal with an old hippie gal at the EPA who wouldn't let go of an issue, with little vision of the practicality of things.  But 99.9% of the time....these people are just fucking people, man.  They have no sinister agenda, no secret plan.  They have a mission/purpose that is no secret (Fauci worked for the infectious disease agency....which deals with...infectious diseases).  They pursue that mission using the best available information, with good intentions, to the best of their ability.  We don't really hear about it when they succeed, and YES, sometimes they fail (like literally every other human being, public or private sector).  Was Fauci involved in research of coronoaviruses?  Shit, it would have been criminally stupid and impossible to explain if he HADN'T BEEN - they had long ago been flagged as a key infectious disease risk in the wake of our human experience with SARS and MERS.  "A-HA!  Fauci was involved in researching coronaviruses [because they were a known fucking risk of giving rise to a pandemic] and waddaya know, a coronavirus caused a pandemic!  DO THE MATH, SHEEPLE!"

I worked closely with lots of people in official positions responding to the pandemic.  There was no secret agenda, no hidden plan.  People were dying, resources were strained, solutions were hard to find.  They did the best they could.  The fucking psychotic Republican need to find a demon everywhere they look (gee, every accusation is a confession) is fucking infuriating, assholish, and flat-out evil.  It's one of several things I hate them for.

Fauci may have done a great job, he may have done a terrible job....odds are, he did a job that was something in between.  But characterizing him as an evil mass murderer and shit is psychotic, twisted, and sick.  And people who do that are psychotic, twisted, and sick.  And I hate them.  A lot.

You misspelled bleach and horse dewormer.  Who you gonna believe, a scientist erring on the side of caution, or a president that looked directly at an eclipse?  Just keep raking so you don't burn up in the next wildfire.  Someone from FEMA will be by to pick up the bagged piles, just attach post-its to what you want removed.          

[Biff Tannen 45678]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

It’ll end up with restraining orders, just like Hall and Oates.

God dammit. Now you’ve done it. 

[SKJ 1311]

5 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Court response:

“Well, Donald, if you somehow win your appeal, you will find yourself in court again being tried by the same people for the same thing. Since you are so bigly sure you will win that appeal because of my rigged trial, I simply can’t terminate the gag order……because according to you, I will need it again…… at least that’s what my daughter says.”

You know... he just likes to say "gag order" since he could never make another human gag...

[tx 3 putt 76932]

The airing of the grievances …..

 

[TwiceHorn 31457]

39 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

The airing of the grievances …..

 

This was done on the motion of Matthew Seligman and a group of government officials supporting the government.

The reason for two in support of Trump is that Blackman and Schaerr take opposing positions for why the appointment is invalid, and both of them differ from Trump.

This is one of those arguments over the Appointments Clause, and who is a principal officer of the United States, appointable only by the President with confirmation by the Senate, and who is an inferior officer and can be appointed by someone else.

The Schaerr group argues that the AG lacks power to appoint a special Counsel because he is a principal Officer. The Blackman group argues that the Special Counsel is merely an employee and can't exercise the powers of a Special Counsel.

Seligman says that what those other two guys said is bullshit.

Here is Seligman's brief.

Edited June 5 by TwiceHorn

[TreatyOak 16313]

On 6/3/2024 at 9:51 PM, Gatorubet said:

I get that emotions were running high, and I get that whole mob mentality thing.    But I swear to God, I cannot fathom what was going through her brain when she thought that attacking elected representatives in Congress was a good idea, given the locked doors to keep you out - and the armed security who have their weapons drawn and pointed at you - telling you to stop or they’ll shoot - makes you think,  “Ya know…this might be a really good time to try to bash out the window between us and crawl through it to get to those people.”

I never get tired of this thought: her husband claims she was “simply expressing her opinion.” Well, the security officer was also simply expressing his opinion.