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[Bullneck 18691]

 

 

[TwiceHorn 30834]

So, the 11th Circuit set a deadline for Appellant's brief in 30 days.  That means they're expediting the appeal.  For whatever that's worth.

[WhatTheBuck 28604]

On 7/22/2024 at 11:09 AM, Bullneck said:

 

 

If that were true then you’d think his brain could absorb something. 

[4th&Five 41111]

 

[Gatorubet 29538]

[tx 3 putt 75225]

 

[tx 3 putt 75225]

 

[tx 3 putt 75225]

The AZ case just got a lot more interesting ….

 

[tx 3 putt 75225]

Guliani and Meadows are fuuuuuucked

No deals for them, Trump had immunity 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13295]

6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Guliani and Meadows are fuuuuuucked

No deals for them, Trump had immunity 

This is my take as well. It’s possible that Trump will escape some (all?) cases because of the SCOTUS ruling. At a minimum he can tie up his cases for long stretches with appeals. The others don’t have that. Is there a count of everyone that has gone to prison for Trump?

its also key that Jenna Ellis agreed to give testimony to any jurisdiction, including federal in exchange for her immunity in AZ. She’s a govt witness now across the board for any prosecutor.

[Goredho 17164]

16 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

The AZ case just got a lot more interesting ….

 

Jenna Ellis taking a life raft off the capsizing SS Trump is some evidence that A) Trump's 2nd presidency is mostly about avoiding punishment for crimes committed during the first and that B) the ability for Trump to win the election is looking...

[tx 3 putt 75225]

How in the hell is smith and team ‘not ready’ ?????

fuck me 

 

[immamac 41615]

what the fuck?

[tx ind 6872]

At this point there was little chance it would go to court before the election.  Trump can sweat it out as it's an unknown hanging over his head and Jack Smith can figure out his case.

[tx 3 putt 75225]

4 minutes ago, tx ind said:

At this point there was little chance it would go to court before the election.  Trump can sweat it out as it's an unknown hanging over his head and Jack Smith can figure out his case.

 

 

i said from the start that smith was in over his head here 

[wildcat09 28485]

10 hours ago, tx ind said:

At this point there was little chance it would go to court before the election.  Trump can sweat it out as it's an unknown hanging over his head and Jack Smith can figure out his case.

After SCOTUS's ruling, there was no chance the trial would start before the election. Might as well take all the time they can get to figure out how best to argue the case and whether they should go ahead and charge him for more shit (like insurrection).  

[tx ind 6872]

Playing it forward, if Trump loses the election, the documents case in Florida will be resurrected.

[Dnaguy 11565]

10 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

After SCOTUS's ruling, there was no chance the trial would start before the election. Might as well take all the time they can get to figure out how best to argue the case and whether they should go ahead and charge him for more shit (like insurrection).  

Yeah but he led the insurrection as the president so wouldn’t it be an official act…

Joking / not joking.

[Gatorubet 29538]

10 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

i said from the start that smith was in over his head here 

And you were wrong.  

The Supreme Court gave little direction to speak of, as to which facts may or may not support conviction under the immunity decision on any given charge - which in and of itself is a gift to Trump-because any wrong decision guessing what the right law is under which facts will be Res Nova and a chance for SCOTUS to dismiss stuff.  

The bigger danger, IMO, is to get a Doddard charge dismissed because of a mistake, and so not rushing ahead meaninglessly to meet an election trial deadline that cannot be met under any circumstance is silly. 

Rather than ‘over his head’, I think this is exactly the right move.  Jack has to react on the fly from total bullshit by the Supreme Court.   A little caution in proceeding is not an indication he doesn’t know what he’s doing.  more than likely, they identified some potential dangers and need more time to figure out how to deal with them. 

[Gil Bang 25551]

 

[Gatorubet 29538]

nine days after the September 9 debate, Trump will have his criminal sentencing.  I’m sure he will remind him at the debate so he doesn’t miss the appointment.

[tx 3 putt 75225]

On 8/9/2024 at 9:45 AM, Gatorubet said:

And you were wrong.  

The Supreme Court gave little direction to speak of, as to which facts may or may not support conviction under the immunity decision on any given charge - which in and of itself is a gift to Trump-because any wrong decision guessing what the right law is under which facts will be Res Nova and a chance for SCOTUS to dismiss stuff.  

The bigger danger, IMO, is to get a Doddard charge dismissed because of a mistake, and so not rushing ahead meaninglessly to meet an election trial deadline that cannot be met under any circumstance is silly. 

Rather than ‘over his head’, I think this is exactly the right move.  Jack has to react on the fly from total bullshit by the Supreme Court.   A little caution in proceeding is not an indication he doesn’t know what he’s doing.  more than likely, they identified some potential dangers and need more time to figure out how to deal with them. 

all true, I was just let down how this played out 

[TwiceHorn 30834]

On 8/9/2024 at 9:33 AM, tx ind said:

Playing it forward, if Trump loses the election, the documents case in Florida will be resurrected.

Well  . . . either it will or it won't.  I'm fairly sure the case will be resurrected by the 11th Circuit, regardless of what happens, and likely before the election. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68955302/12/united-states-v-donald-trump/

What the Supremes do, and how dependent is that on the election, is not clear to me.**  There is some fucked up shit in Cannon's dismissal, but one thing that bothers me (without having read other cases on the issue),  is that the statutes concerning the powers of the Attorney General do not authorize special counsel or independent counsel as clearly as one could hope.  Pinche Congress. A functional Congress could fix that in a blink, if it is even necessary.  But where that ends up, I dunno.

ETA fn **:  If they are wholly in the bag for Trump personally, they might protect him even if he is not POTUS.  If they are in the bag for christofascist, of which Trump is only a sometime symbol, then it's less clear how protecting him serves their interest.  More broadly at stake is the viability of a special or independent counsel under these AG rules.  Because nothing in the AG rules actually (perhaps in practice, though) creates some kind of super-prosecutor, but only one that has some degree of independence from the AG and thus the administration for appearance's sake, at least.  The alternative, no special counsel unless Congress authorizes, doesn't actually seem to change much.

Edited August 10 by TwiceHorn

[TwiceHorn 30834]

What I think is a pretty accessible article on the issue regarding Special Counsel, the language of statutes authorizing (or failing to authorize) their appointment by the AG.  https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/judge-cannon-should-have-stuck-to-the-beaten-path

Lawfare does some really good stuff on these kinds of things.  A great example of a liberal-affiliated (Brookings) outlet that doesn't pull punches.

[4th&Five 41111]

 

[WhatTheBuck 28604]

Fuck him. 

[Red Five 40274]

Running for president is not a right. It should not interfere at all with any of his criminal trials. But, alas.

[Gil Bang 25551]

good thread

 

 

 

[Biff Tannen 45013]

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

 

[aggie08 20344]

So this is how shitty things are. I'm not sure that a short prison sentence--if there is one--even hurts him. If anything maybe it motivates a few lethargic voters to get off their couch on election day to keep a "politically targeted" candidate out of prison. I'm very willing to find out though.

[TwiceHorn 30834]

5 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

So this is how shitty things are. I'm not sure that a short prison sentence--if there is one--even hurts him. If anything maybe it motivates a few lethargic voters to get off their couch on election day to keep a "politically targeted" candidate out of prison. I'm very willing to find out though.

Yeah, since his conviction has seemed a nothingburger  or actual pro to the base, and most of the rest of us who concluded he was a grifting crimey piece of shit even before prosecution and conviction, I don't think it makes much of a shit.

And it will all be subject to appeal anyway.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 18402]

Looks like the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

 

 

[Willfully Horn 7854]

12 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Looks like the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

 

 

There are people who hope that serial killer in training psycho will one day be a monarch.

Caligula with nukes.

Edited August 15 by Willfully Horn

[safe sex 11603]

I am once again asking that anyone who posts an interesting Twitter thread to please post it via Threadapp (or whatever it's called) or to provide the text of the thread below your embed.

[Jiggy-Z 3421]

3 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

There are people who hope that serial killer in training psycho will one day be a monarch.

Caligula with nukes.

I guess he would be a barron first.

Seriously hope that shit isn't true.

His old man some similar type issues according to his high school academy classmates...allegedly.

[Captainant 26902]

Hey look, Aileen taking more bribes!

https://www.propublica.org/article/judge-aileen-cannon-trump-documents-case-travel-disclosures

Quote

Cannon’s annual disclosure form for 2023, which was due in May and offers another chance to report gifts and reimbursements from outside parties, has yet to be posted. (Cannon reported the two Montana trips on her annual disclosure forms, but the required 30-day privately funded seminar reports had not been posted. In 2021, Cannon incorrectly listed the school as “George Madison University.”)

The court’s administrative office declined to say if she requested a one-time extension to give her until Aug. 13 to file. A spokesperson would not discuss whether she met the deadline or the status of her disclosure, which must be reviewed internally.

Cannon’s performance during almost four years of a lifetime appointment has drawn criticism from lawyers, former federal judges and courtroom observers who told ProPublica that she doesn’t render timely decisions and has made unpredictable rulings in both civil and criminal matters. On July 15, she threw out the case brought by Special Counsel Jack Smith that alleges Trump mishandled classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago residence; Cannon called Smith’s appointment unconstitutional since he was not nominated by the president and approved by the Senate.

Smith is appealing to the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington has asked the court to remand her decision and replace her.

By contrast, Trump, who appointed Cannon in 2020 to the Fort Pierce courthouse, has praised her brilliance, and Federalist Society founder Steven Calabresi called her a heroine for throwing out the criminal case against Trump.

For decades, judicial education programs sponsored by George Mason’s Law and Economics Center have drawn in 5,000 state and federal judges and four current Supreme Court justices, according to its website. The school says its programs strive for balance and intellectual rigor. But conference agendas and speaker lists that the university must file with the courts detail lectures and panel discussions built around Federalist Society principles that are associated with conservative legal movements.

Ken Turchi, associate dean for external affairs, said the law school plays no role in judicial disclosures. “Judges’ decisions to submit (or not submit) disclosure forms are theirs alone — it’s a self-reporting process,” he said.

The guest list for the May 2023 Scalia Forum included William H. Pryor Jr., chief judge of the 11th Circuit, which is now hearing Smith’s appeal. Pryor and dinner speaker Kyle Duncan, a 5th Circuit judge, did file their required disclosures for the Scalia dinner.

 

[ROFL BOX 6622]

So many different CR options on where to put this... No single one that focuses on the various merch grift.

• Trading cards

•  EFT's

•  Trumpy Bear (I think that one wasn't actually him & it prob. pissed him off that someone legally made coin from the "idea" of him)

•  Sneakers

•  Trump coins (not legal tender)

...something else I'm probably forgetting...

& Now, we get:

https://watchmaestro.com/blog/trump-watches-launched-costing-up-to-aed-370000/

The Trump Timepiece

[gernblansten 3122]

[Red Five 40274]

Harris campaign should use that. "Donald is so concerned about people struggling to make ends meet, that he's charging $100k for a watch." 

[TwiceHorn 30834]

Sheeeit, a Rolex President is under $50k.  Most Pateks are around that. What a load of shit.

Edited September 30 by TwiceHorn
Correct, h/t jimmyjazz.

[Fudge Nuggets 18899]

Rubes will sell their DJT stock to buy a watch.

[jimmyjazz 45162]

8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Sheeeit, a Rolex President is under $50.  Most Pateks are around that. What a load of shit.

I assume $50K.

Not a watch collector, but having designed the internal shock mount for an upstart watchmaker, I learned a couple of things about movements, etc.  I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that the Trump movement is essentially standard issue $500-ish "buy and package" shit.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13295]

Lara Trump will ensure that the RNC buys these watches at full price and then hand them out to VIP donors. I could see Trump learning how some donors give directly to the RNC, bypassing his campaign, and they needed a method to point that money back over to him. 

[TwiceHorn 30834]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

I assume $50K.

Not a watch collector, but having designed the internal shock mount for an upstart watchmaker, I learned a couple of things about movements, etc.  I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that the Trump movement is essentially standard issue $500-ish "buy and package" shit.

I'd bet something Chinese and cheap.  https://www.romlicenwatch.com/a-complete-guide-to-chinese-watch-movements/

That must have been an interesting project.  Clean sheet design?

[Pato del Muerto 52035]

That see through face and back, and movement looks a lot like the one on the cheap watch I bought on Amazon years ago for like $70 with a sapphire works made in Japan.  The diamonds are gaudy as shit.  Gold is gold though, but paying 1000% for gold doesn’t seem like a winning investment. 

Edited September 30 by Pato del Muerto

[jimmyjazz 45162]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

That must have been an interesting project.  Clean sheet design?

 

Well, it wasn't targeting the Patek crowd, these watches sell in the $2K range.  Movement was some well-known Swiss device (I think Swiss).  The shock mount was new from the ground up, and way surpassed drop test requirements (which was the goal).  That's all I worked on, but I believe the case, etc. were also ground up.

[miguelito 11095]

[Judge Roybeanbag 11728]

I mean if they really want these to fly off the shelves for typical GQP male buyers, they should offer a free bottle of lube with each watch.  

[RDCanecutter 25890]

13 hours ago, ROFL BOX said:

So many different CR options on where to put this... No single one that focuses on the various merch grift.

• Trading cards

•  EFT's

•  Trumpy Bear (I think that one wasn't actually him & it prob. pissed him off that someone legally made coin from the "idea" of him)

•  Sneakers

•  Trump coins (not legal tender)

...something else I'm probably forgetting...

& Now, we get:

https://watchmaestro.com/blog/trump-watches-launched-costing-up-to-aed-370000/

The Trump Timepiece

I always wanted a watch that runs backwards.

[UTCzech III 2893]

Somebody ordered a Chinese watch?