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25 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

I'm surprised it wasn't scheduled to begin before 11/5. 

I’m surprised she didn’t just declare him guilty and sentenced to death 

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7 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Is this the October surprise?

Well, the brief, that ties it all together, was made public a week or so ago, this is the actual appendix of evidence.  The brief is 165 pages, the appendix many times that.

So, I'm guessing ain't nobody got time for that or tl;dr.  So, probably not.

There might be some juicy pieces that make for "good" tweets or whatever.

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10 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

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Seriously, though, in context, an attempted assassination/murder is a much simpler case than a classified documents case.

And, a first trial setting never holds unless for some bizarre reason the defendant lets it.

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1 minute ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Yes, Eileen is definitely on the up and up. 

*Aileen.

Regardless of the judge, what I said is broadly true.  A murder case, despite having an intent element, just relies, typically, on eyewitnesses and actions that pretty clearly evince the requisite intent.

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59 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

*Aileen.

Regardless of the judge, what I said is broadly true.  A murder case, despite having an intent element, just relies, typically, on eyewitnesses and actions that pretty clearly evince the requisite intent.

Come on…

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3 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Remember when Donald Trump was found guilty in a criminal case, sentencing was imminent, and several other of his pending trials seemed to have real momentum? 

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Not an issue at all in the fucking campaign for president, and it's bizarre. Especially considering one of those trials was for trying to overturn the last election. 

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19 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Not an issue at all in the fucking campaign for president, and it's bizarre. Especially considering one of those trials was for trying to overturn the last election. 

Kamala doesn't even mention it.  His cult thinks it is all rigged against him and all the people who don't pay attention probably think something along those lines as well, since that is all they hear ad nauseum.  Idiot world.

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1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

Kamala doesn't even mention it. 

I think she called him a convicted felon once in the debate. There hasn't been much talk at all about it since. I'm sure there's a good reason for it, but man, I'd be saying in place of his name "The criminal I'm running against", etc.

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In the eyes of the news, you could also say that it's merely an issue on the same level of Walz' location during Tienemen Square, tarriffs, or Kamala working at McDonald's which is run through the tired mill of "how will this affect the voters?"
As you suggest, the existential threat of a candidate who has spoken aloud and more than once about suspending the Constitution, using the Army for domestic tyranny, elections being rigged, and the roadmap to tyranny that is Prop 2025 should be the issue. 
I'm getting boring with this, I know, but I can't keep my mouth shut both in shock and the will to say that the biggest news story since the Civil War is right in front of these talking heads and they won't see it for what it is. They don't dare say aloud what they can see with their own eyes. 
Mentally Unstable Fascist Seeks and May Regain the Presidency
Only Harris Stands Between the US and Proposition 2025: Fascism
Their template does not allow for this. Their indolence is immovable. Their failure could be fatal.
They could actually find themselves before a tribunal explaining how they're not traitors. It's ironic that the TV newsmedia may as well be traitors for how they're letting the fascist train roll right down the tracks without inquiry.
Let's go to our panel who will present their guesses on how the battleground states may vote.
That's. Not. The. Story. Dumbass.

Fucking. THIS.
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16 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

In the eyes of the news, you could also say that it's merely an issue on the same level of Walz' location during Tienemen Square, tarriffs, or Kamala working at McDonald's which is run through the tired mill of "how will this affect the voters?"

There has been much more commentary on Kamala's laugh than on Trump's 86 felony counts or whatever it is. I wonder how many of Trump's court cases the average swing state voter can even name. "You see so in this one, he tried to end democracy and install himself as an unelected dictator. So, you know, kind of important." 

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56 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I think she called him a convicted felon once in the debate. There hasn't been much talk at all about it since. I'm sure there's a good reason for it, but man, I'd be saying in place of his name "The criminal I'm running against", etc.

It's some dumbass Dem consultant shit. They obviously believe that because it didn't seem to matter to independents in a couple of polls months ago there's no value in using it. But it likely didn't matter to independents in a couple of polls months ago because they didn't know shit about it and hadn't started paying attention, but it could become a bigger issue with them now if she actually talked about it a lot.

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4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

*Aileen.

Regardless of the judge, what I said is broadly true.  A murder case, despite having an intent element, just relies, typically, on eyewitnesses and actions that pretty clearly evince the requisite intent.

Murder?  Didn’t they just find the guy with a gun?  Isn’t that 25% of Florida and also Texas?

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12 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

In the eyes of the news, you could also say that it's merely an issue on the same level of Walz' location during Tienemen Square, tarriffs, or Kamala working at McDonald's which is run through the tired mill of "how will this affect the voters?"

As you suggest, the existential threat of a candidate who has spoken aloud and more than once about suspending the Constitution, using the Army for domestic tyranny, elections being rigged, and the roadmap to tyranny that is Prop 2025 should be the issue. 

I'm getting boring with this, I know, but I can't keep my mouth shut both in shock and the will to say that the biggest news story since the Civil War is right in front of these talking heads and they won't see it for what it is. They don't dare say aloud what they can see with their own eyes. 

Mentally Unstable Fascist Seeks and May Regain the Presidency

Only Harris Stands Between the US and Proposition 2025: Fascism

Their template does not allow for this. Their indolence is immovable. Their failure could be fatal.

They could actually find themselves before a tribunal explaining how they're not traitors. It's ironic that the TV newsmedia may as well be traitors for how they're letting the fascist train roll right down the tracks without inquiry.

Let's go to our panel who will present their guesses on how the battleground states may vote.

That's. Not. The. Story. Dumbass.

100,000,000% spot on.

This also a massive indictment of our university education system, since the TV news media all have college degrees -- yet most can't think clearly or deeply and apparently know next to nothing of history. And they naively assume their celebrity status will protect them in a fascist-Christian takeover.

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Lulz Cannon finally getting her reward for her ratfucking

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-tossed-trumps-classified-docs-case-list-proposed/story?id=114997807

A proposed personnel roster circulating within Donald Trump's campaign and transition operation lists Aileen Cannon, the federal judge who threw out Trump's classified documents case, as a possible candidate for attorney general, multiple sources familiar with the matter have told ABC News.

Cannon's name appears on a document reviewed by ABC News titled "Transition Planning: Legal Principals," which lists potential staffing for the White House counsel's office, the Department of Justice, the FBI, and U.S. attorneys' offices, as well as proposed candidates for the top legal positions within multiple government agencies, should Trump be reelected.

The document was drafted by Trump's top advisers with input from Boris Epshteyn, who oversees Trump's legal team and is one of Trump's most trusted advisers, sources familiar with the matter said.

Cannon's name appears second after former SEC Chairman Jay Clayton, according to the document reviewed by ABC News, which includes nearly a dozen potential candidates for attorney general. Cannon's name was added to the list well after the classified documents case was thrown out over the summer, the sources said.

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17 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Lulz Cannon finally getting her reward for her ratfucking

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-tossed-trumps-classified-docs-case-list-proposed/story?id=114997807

A proposed personnel roster circulating within Donald Trump's campaign and transition operation lists Aileen Cannon, the federal judge who threw out Trump's classified documents case, as a possible candidate for attorney general, multiple sources familiar with the matter have told ABC News.

Cannon's name appears on a document reviewed by ABC News titled "Transition Planning: Legal Principals," which lists potential staffing for the White House counsel's office, the Department of Justice, the FBI, and U.S. attorneys' offices, as well as proposed candidates for the top legal positions within multiple government agencies, should Trump be reelected.

The document was drafted by Trump's top advisers with input from Boris Epshteyn, who oversees Trump's legal team and is one of Trump's most trusted advisers, sources familiar with the matter said.

Cannon's name appears second after former SEC Chairman Jay Clayton, according to the document reviewed by ABC News, which includes nearly a dozen potential candidates for attorney general. Cannon's name was added to the list well after the classified documents case was thrown out over the summer, the sources said.

In a functional legal system, this would be enough to get that case taken from her when her dismissal is ultimately overruled. 

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4 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

In a functional legal system, this would be enough to get that case taken from her when her dismissal is ultimately overruled. 

In a functioning society people would reject this abject corruption as disqualifying 

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Cannon has a lifetime appointment and is already set being incompetent and essentially unfireable. Why would she give that up for an at most 4 year appointment? Seems a better quid pro quo request would be a promotion to the 11th Circuit (after she’s done saving him at the trial court). I think Garland took the chance expecting 8 years under Biden but even if Kamala replaces him I can see her reappointing him to the bench. Say what you will about his tenure as AG he was a good judge. Cannon doesn’t have that.

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Cannon has a lifetime appointment and is already set being incompetent and essentially unfireable. Why would she give that up for an at most 4 year appointment? Seems a better quid pro quo request would be a promotion to the 11th Circuit (after she’s done saving him at the trial court). I think Garland took the chance expecting 8 years under Biden but even if Kamala replaces him I can see her reappointing him to the bench. Say what you will about his tenure as AG he was a good judge. Cannon doesn’t have that.

This is all true if we’re thinking rationally. Then again, her judgment skills are….questionable. Or maybe they aren’t?
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Eh, I would think time as AG could lead to some pretty sweet partnerships or consulting agreements.  She makes $200K as a judge, and although she and her husband are moderately wealthy, I would think she could top that salary by a wide margin in private practice.  That might not be her thing, though.

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6 hours ago, 'stache said:

Cannon has a lifetime appointment and is already set being incompetent and essentially unfireable. Why would she give that up for an at most 4 year appointment? Seems a better quid pro quo request would be a promotion to the 11th Circuit (after she’s done saving him at the trial court). I think Garland took the chance expecting 8 years under Biden but even if Kamala replaces him I can see her reappointing him to the bench. Say what you will about his tenure as AG he was a good judge. Cannon doesn’t have that.

Kamala had better replace Garland.

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9 minutes ago, kevwun said:

She is going to want her own AG.  I would bet she's not a fan of Garland on top of that.

I think its a safe bet to wager she has opinions on how good judges are at understanding prosecuting.  

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