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[TexasEd 8067]

11 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why would he have thousands of docs on that?  They conspired entirely by email?

 

9 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Would you honestly be surprised that these people were stupid enough to leave a paper trail?  

  

Edited July 25, 2023 by TexasEd

[Radical Larry 28613]

Too late with the gif from The Wire

[Willfully Horn 8017]

Fuck that fuck.

[Ten Bears 2481]

I'm with Blaze. Fuck these fucks.

[Gatorubet 30238]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why would he have thousands of docs on that?  They conspired entirely by email?

4,365 Hunter Biden dick pics….and 124 emails apologizing for slow diet coke delivery to the stable genius.  

[Hermanator 7050]

2 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

 

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why would he have thousands of docs on that?  They conspired entirely by email?

Another shitty headline and tweet. If you read the CNN article the documents were related to the Guiliani and Trump team claiming voter fraud and their smear campaign against the Dominion exec. Nothing about Jan 6 in there. 

[TwiceHorn 31470]

10 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

 

Another shitty headline and tweet. If you read the CNN article the documents were related to the Guiliani and Trump team claiming voter fraud and their smear campaign against the Dominion exec. Nothing about Jan 6 in there. 

Well, one of the biggest issues in securing a 1/6 indictment of Trump, at least for 1/6 itself, is showing his intention, which has multiple aspects.  One is that he knew he lost the election and another is that he knew that all the fraud claims he made were false and thus that the fake elector scheme and the 1/6 riot he incited to try to force Pence to implement it were done wrongfully and corruptly.  At least theoretically, if a jury can be convinced to a reasonable doubt that Trump believed he was doing what was necessary to overturn what he believed to be an unfair or fraudulent election, he could be acquitted.

Some of this will bear on that.

Edited July 25, 2023 by TwiceHorn

[atomheartbevo 89666]

2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why would he have thousands of docs on that?  They conspired entirely by email?

2 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Would you honestly be surprised that these people were stupid enough to leave a paper trail?  

I would not be surprised if a lot of them kept select documents to cover their asses or use as leverage against one another.

Sure, some of them are dumb as fuck, but plenty are nothing more than rats that assume everybody else will fuck them over, so they are going to make sure and fuck everybody else over first.

[Hermanator 7050]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, one of the biggest issues in securing a 1/6 indictment of Trump, at least for 1/6 itself, is showing his intention, which has multiple aspects.  One is that he knew he lost the election and another is that he knew that all the fraud claims he made were false and thus that the fake elector scheme and the 1/6 riot he incited to try to force Pence to implement it were done wrongfully and corruptly.  At least theoretically, if a jury can be convinced to a reasonable doubt that Trump believed he was doing what was necessary to overturn what he believed to be an unfair or fraudulent election, he could be acquitted.

Some of this will bear on that.

Perhaps there's some of that in there but the CNN article never said as much. It specifically spoke about Dominion and Rudy's bullshit about fake election schemes in Michigan and Pennsylvania. Still a bad tweet to make it sound like information was given about Trump and Jan 6 that wasn't given. 

[scottsins 1966]

Perhaps there's some of that in there but the CNN article never said as much. It specifically spoke about Dominion and Rudy's bullshit about fake election schemes in Michigan and Pennsylvania. Still a bad tweet to make it sound like information was given about Trump and Jan 6 that wasn't given. 

JFC. Here we go again.

[Rimbo 25933]

imagine not having Herminator on ignore

[Hermanator 7050]

So calling out shit tweets that give misleading information is bad now? 

[tx 3 putt 76957]

But you can associate it with ex presidents ….

 

[TwiceHorn 31470]

5 hours ago, scottsins said:

JFC. Here we go again.

By the time I read the article it did say updated with more information, so I may have read kind of a different article.

[Neonmoon 38129]

10 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

 

8 hours ago, Hermanator said:

 

Another shitty headline and tweet. If you read the CNN article the documents were related to the Guiliani and Trump team claiming voter fraud and their smear campaign against the Dominion exec. Nothing about Jan 6 in there. 

 

8 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, one of the biggest issues in securing a 1/6 indictment of Trump, at least for 1/6 itself, is showing his intention, which has multiple aspects.  One is that he knew he lost the election and another is that he knew that all the fraud claims he made were false and thus that the fake elector scheme and the 1/6 riot he incited to try to force Pence to implement it were done wrongfully and corruptly.  At least theoretically, if a jury can be convinced to a reasonable doubt that Trump believed he was doing what was necessary to overturn what he believed to be an unfair or fraudulent election, he could be acquitted.

Some of this will bear on that.

 

6 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Perhaps there's some of that in there but the CNN article never said as much. It specifically spoke about Dominion and Rudy's bullshit about fake election schemes in Michigan and Pennsylvania. Still a bad tweet to make it sound like information was given about Trump and Jan 6 that wasn't given. 

CNN article headline “Special counsel received documents from Giuliani team that tried to find fraud after 2020 election”

Tweet: “A Trump ally has turned over thousands of documents to special counsel Jack Smith – including materials that haven’t been previously disclosed to investigators looking into events surrounding January 6, 2021.”

In CNN article 

“They also include communications between investigators hired by Giuliani – including Kerik – about the debunked report about irregularities in Antrim County, Michigan, that Trump was repeatedly told was bogus but continued to tout up to and on January 6, 2021.”

 

[AnTiM 1666]

"Oh, the humanity".  Truth hurts, don't it?

[SydneyCarton 48106]

Jesus, Hermanator’d again. It’s like he is a normal poster 75% of the time, and then 25% of the time he refuses to read something or takes some weird contrarian stance and sticks to it like his life depends on it. It’s bizarre AF.

[TexasEd 8067]

6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

But you can associate it with ex presidents ….

 

When did Butthead become an anchor for Newsmax?

this is just two Trump shills taking turns shilling. 
 

Edit:  most plausible explanation is Newsmax can’t afford anchors so the decided to skip the middle man.

Edited July 25, 2023 by TexasEd

[Js1 85336]

6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

But you can associate it with ex presidents ….

 

More like “we didn’t use to associate these with the president, until America elected a wannabe mob boss”

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

But you can associate it with ex presidents ….

 

I think a president referring to their former associate as a "rat" is pretty mob-like too.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-calls-cohen-rat/story?id=59862349

Sorta like having Roy Cohn as your longtime lawyer. Or maybe owning a casino. 

[scottsins 1966]

I think a president referring to their former associate as a "rat" is pretty mob-like too.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-calls-cohen-rat/story?id=59862349
Sorta like having Roy Cohn as your longtime lawyer. Or maybe owning a casino. 

…and referring to Roy Cohn as a “fixer”.

[The Dog 44051]

 

[Rimbo 25933]

7 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Jesus, Hermanator’d again. It’s like he is a normal poster 75% of the time, and then 25% of the time he refuses to read something or takes some weird contrarian stance and sticks to it like his life depends on it. It’s bizarre AF.

 

you're being too generous

 

2 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

[WhatTheBuck 28781]

On 7/23/2023 at 9:34 PM, dcbc said:

Far less essentially has ended previous Presidential campaigns.  When I look back on this, it's still a bit unreal that this didn't torpedo everything in 2016 (and there's so much more).  Absolute idiocracy.

It wasn’t a coincidence that the first batch of Russia’s hacked emails from the Clinton campaign were released just 30 minutes after the airing of the Access Hollywood tape. I can’t prove it but I’ll bet as soon as the Access Hollywood tape was made public, Roger Stone was on the phone with Julian Assange shouting “Now!”

[Pig Bellmont 8718]

1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

 

you're being too generous

 

That Twitter account is routinely full of shit

[WhatTheBuck 28781]

8 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

I think a president referring to their former associate as a "rat" is pretty mob-like too.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-calls-cohen-rat/story?id=59862349

Sorta like having Roy Cohn as your longtime lawyer. Or maybe owning a casino. 

Building buildings in the New York/New Jersey area. 

[The Dog 44051]

1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

That Twitter account is routinely full of shit

TBF she wasn't the only one expecting something - CBS teased that this might be the day last night as were other reporters. 

Edited July 25, 2023 by The Dog

[Hookah Horns 3083]

19 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, one of the biggest issues in securing a 1/6 indictment of Trump, at least for 1/6 itself, is showing his intention, which has multiple aspects.  One is that he knew he lost the election and another is that he knew that all the fraud claims he made were false and thus that the fake elector scheme and the 1/6 riot he incited to try to force Pence to implement it were done wrongfully and corruptly.  At least theoretically, if a jury can be convinced to a reasonable doubt that Trump believed he was doing what was necessary to overturn what he believed to be an unfair or fraudulent election, he could be acquitted.

Some of this will bear on that.

You sure they need to prove he knew the fraud claims were bogus? Seems like believing there was fraud shouldn't make it legal to make a counterfeit elector slate thing and send it to Congress. Even if there had been fraud, there was no information indicated he was the true winner but for the fraud. 

I'm certain that genuinely believing you were robbed is not a defense to inciting a riot to stay in power. 

Edited July 25, 2023 by Hookah Horns

[nbmishoid 949]

I seriously believed all that money in the liquor store cash register was mine, so, you can’t prosecute me.  You have to prove I didn’t.  Right.

[BamaATL 16593]

28 minutes ago, The Dog said:

TBF she wasn't the only one expecting something - CBS teased that this might be the day last night as were other reporters. 

If everything follows to form, we won't know anything until Trump rants about being arrested on such and such date on truth.  That's what's happened both the last two times, the indictment was unsealed after the arrest and arraignment in New York, and only revealed only after Trump leaked his impending arrest in Florida.  I have to imagine once he's informed of his notice to surrender he will be the first to air it, not the other way around.  

[Rimbo 25933]

2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

That Twitter account is routinely full of shit

Jesus Christ, pig. Next, you're going to try and tell me that $9.95ers routinely post bullshit rumors just to get clicks.

[Irwin F Fletcher 3550]

Jesus Christ, pig. Next, you're going to try and tell me that $9.95ers routinely post bullshit rumors just to get clicks.

Wait! Wut? FFS I thought I was paying for inside the ropes access.

[TwiceHorn 31470]

1 hour ago, Hookah Horns said:

You sure they need to prove he knew the fraud claims were bogus? Seems like believing there was fraud shouldn't make it legal to make a counterfeit elector slate thing and send it to Congress. Even if there had been fraud, there was no information indicated he was the true winner but for the fraud. 

I'm certain that genuinely believing you were robbed is not a defense to inciting a riot to stay in power. 

I don't think it's a legal requirement, but it's kind of like "motive, means, and opportunity," something you think you need to persuade a jury.

Another thing I read mentioned that there were some "privately commissioned" investigation materials that also pretty much came up empty, but that the prosecution was anxious to know of everything that might be dredged up by the defense to defend his false beliefs.  I'm sure they could deal with anything that came up, but they'd prefer not to have to debunk some new shit on the fly.

[Hermanator 7050]

12 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

 

 

 

CNN article headline “Special counsel received documents from Giuliani team that tried to find fraud after 2020 election”

Tweet: “A Trump ally has turned over thousands of documents to special counsel Jack Smith – including materials that haven’t been previously disclosed to investigators looking into events surrounding January 6, 2021.”

In CNN article 

“They also include communications between investigators hired by Giuliani – including Kerik – about the debunked report about irregularities in Antrim County, Michigan, that Trump was repeatedly told was bogus but continued to tout up to and on January 6, 2021.”

 

I didn't mean the CNN headline was bullshit the tweet headline was. 

Quote

“They also include communications between investigators hired by Giuliani – including Kerik – about the debunked report about irregularities in Antrim County, Michigan, that Trump was repeatedly told was bogus but continued to tout up to and on January 6, 2021.”

That's proving my point. It's talking about the made up fraudulent bullshit Guiliani and his people were coming up with about election fraud in places like Michigan and Pennsylvania. It only says Trump touted them in the lead up to Jan 6 but doesn't say the communications were about Trump or his involvement in planning Jan 6. 

The tweet was worded to sound like he turned over documents related to trump's involvement in Jan 6 when the article only mentions documents related to their search for fraudulent votes.

Possibly some of them detail informing trump that there is no evidence of election fraud but that wasn't specified and neither was anything related to trump's direct involvement in Jan 6. 

It's another in a long line of bullshit misleading tweets that make the situation sound like something it isn't.  Most people just see the tweet and never bother to read the article to see what is really being said, and  they get all pissed wondering why more isn't being done when the tweets make it sound like something it's not. 

23 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why would he have thousands of docs on that?  They conspired entirely by email?

Case in point. He's wondering why they would have thousands of documents on trump's involvement in Jan 6 when that isn't what the article was about at all. 

[scottsins 1966]

Case in point. He's wondering why they would have thousands of documents on trump's involvement in Jan 6 when that isn't what the article was about at all. 

I get that, but “Jan 6 charges =/ “causing the violent riot/insurrection.

It’s also about DOTARD knowing that he actually lost and (as evidenced in the documents) conspired to formally make himself President by unlawfully getting electors to cast votes for him.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

4 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Building buildings in the New York/New Jersey area. 

Claiming the results of an election are a sure thing before it's occurred.

Publicly issuing directives to Proud Boys whom per their founder Gavin McInnes explicitly endorse violence. 

[The Dog 44051]

 

[Red Five 40858]

1) Stollen. So yeah he thinks that's how it's spelled.

2) If Biden is the most corrupt president in history then it should be pretty easy to name some of the things for which he should be impeached. Go ahead Dotard. 

[speed817 19271]

43 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Am I the only one who reads his rants in his voice???

[AnTiM 1666]

55 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Nawwww, they impeach your dumb ass for not knowing how to spell "stolen".  Now try "pollen"

[Gatorubet 30238]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

 

He is terrified.   The more he thinks he will be convicted, the more he will want to use his minions to block or assault or stop the proceedings.   He is too stupid to think that this won’t work.

[Red Five 40858]

I really can't wait for him to be gone from the earth forever. He changes my mood.

"I made a perfect visit to that liquor store and they put me in jail!"

"You robbed it at gunpoint."

"Perfect visit! I asked 1000 lawyers yesterday and they all said it was perfect!"

[nbmishoid 949]

Liquor store robbery talk not going away

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

2 hours ago, AnTiM said:

Nawwww, they impeach your dumb ass for not knowing how to spell "stolen".  Now try "pollen"

The Eastern European nation that bella Russia is about to take?

[TexasEd 8067]

20 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

The Eastern European nation that bella Russia is about to take?

Yeah, the one that was cobbled together after WW2 by Stollen. 

Edited July 26, 2023 by TexasEd

[YGIFS 19450]

I think we all remember all the liquor stores that got knocked over by Nazi ANTIFA protestors at the Battle of Stollengrad

 

[The Dog 44051]

(from last night so tomorrow = today)

[Biff Tannen 45684]

So today's the day?

[Neonmoon 38129]

[The Dog 44051]

59 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

So today's the day?

 Maybe? 

Been a lot of activity this week and a lot of false alarms. 

Anyway this is happening right now: