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11 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why would he have thousands of docs on that?  They conspired entirely by email?

 

9 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Would you honestly be surprised that these people were stupid enough to leave a paper trail?  

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Imagine your basis of hating Trump is because of mean tweets, January 6 and “hush money” trial all because liberal media is crooked. Fuck right off. This is my last post in this forum  dumb fucki

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2 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

 

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why would he have thousands of docs on that?  They conspired entirely by email?

Another shitty headline and tweet. If you read the CNN article the documents were related to the Guiliani and Trump team claiming voter fraud and their smear campaign against the Dominion exec. Nothing about Jan 6 in there. 

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Another shitty headline and tweet. If you read the CNN article the documents were related to the Guiliani and Trump team claiming voter fraud and their smear campaign against the Dominion exec. Nothing about Jan 6 in there. 

Well, one of the biggest issues in securing a 1/6 indictment of Trump, at least for 1/6 itself, is showing his intention, which has multiple aspects.  One is that he knew he lost the election and another is that he knew that all the fraud claims he made were false and thus that the fake elector scheme and the 1/6 riot he incited to try to force Pence to implement it were done wrongfully and corruptly.  At least theoretically, if a jury can be convinced to a reasonable doubt that Trump believed he was doing what was necessary to overturn what he believed to be an unfair or fraudulent election, he could be acquitted.

Some of this will bear on that.

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2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why would he have thousands of docs on that?  They conspired entirely by email?

2 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Would you honestly be surprised that these people were stupid enough to leave a paper trail?  

I would not be surprised if a lot of them kept select documents to cover their asses or use as leverage against one another.

Sure, some of them are dumb as fuck, but plenty are nothing more than rats that assume everybody else will fuck them over, so they are going to make sure and fuck everybody else over first.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, one of the biggest issues in securing a 1/6 indictment of Trump, at least for 1/6 itself, is showing his intention, which has multiple aspects.  One is that he knew he lost the election and another is that he knew that all the fraud claims he made were false and thus that the fake elector scheme and the 1/6 riot he incited to try to force Pence to implement it were done wrongfully and corruptly.  At least theoretically, if a jury can be convinced to a reasonable doubt that Trump believed he was doing what was necessary to overturn what he believed to be an unfair or fraudulent election, he could be acquitted.

Some of this will bear on that.

Perhaps there's some of that in there but the CNN article never said as much. It specifically spoke about Dominion and Rudy's bullshit about fake election schemes in Michigan and Pennsylvania. Still a bad tweet to make it sound like information was given about Trump and Jan 6 that wasn't given. 

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Perhaps there's some of that in there but the CNN article never said as much. It specifically spoke about Dominion and Rudy's bullshit about fake election schemes in Michigan and Pennsylvania. Still a bad tweet to make it sound like information was given about Trump and Jan 6 that wasn't given. 

JFC. Here we go again.
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10 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

 

8 hours ago, Hermanator said:

 

Another shitty headline and tweet. If you read the CNN article the documents were related to the Guiliani and Trump team claiming voter fraud and their smear campaign against the Dominion exec. Nothing about Jan 6 in there. 

 

8 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, one of the biggest issues in securing a 1/6 indictment of Trump, at least for 1/6 itself, is showing his intention, which has multiple aspects.  One is that he knew he lost the election and another is that he knew that all the fraud claims he made were false and thus that the fake elector scheme and the 1/6 riot he incited to try to force Pence to implement it were done wrongfully and corruptly.  At least theoretically, if a jury can be convinced to a reasonable doubt that Trump believed he was doing what was necessary to overturn what he believed to be an unfair or fraudulent election, he could be acquitted.

Some of this will bear on that.

 

6 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Perhaps there's some of that in there but the CNN article never said as much. It specifically spoke about Dominion and Rudy's bullshit about fake election schemes in Michigan and Pennsylvania. Still a bad tweet to make it sound like information was given about Trump and Jan 6 that wasn't given. 

CNN article headline “Special counsel received documents from Giuliani team that tried to find fraud after 2020 election”

Tweet: “A Trump ally has turned over thousands of documents to special counsel Jack Smith – including materials that haven’t been previously disclosed to investigators looking into events surrounding January 6, 2021.”


In CNN article 

“They also include communications between investigators hired by Giuliani – including Kerik – about the debunked report about irregularities in Antrim County, Michigan, that Trump was repeatedly told was bogus but continued to tout up to and on January 6, 2021.”

 

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6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

But you can associate it with ex presidents ….

 

When did Butthead become an anchor for Newsmax?

this is just two Trump shills taking turns shilling. 
 

Edit:  most plausible explanation is Newsmax can’t afford anchors so the decided to skip the middle man.

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6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

But you can associate it with ex presidents ….

 

More like “we didn’t use to associate these with the president, until America elected a wannabe mob boss”

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6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

But you can associate it with ex presidents ….

 

I think a president referring to their former associate as a "rat" is pretty mob-like too.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-calls-cohen-rat/story?id=59862349

Sorta like having Roy Cohn as your longtime lawyer. Or maybe owning a casino. 

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7 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Jesus, Hermanator’d again. It’s like he is a normal poster 75% of the time, and then 25% of the time he refuses to read something or takes some weird contrarian stance and sticks to it like his life depends on it. It’s bizarre AF.

 

you're being too generous

 

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On 7/23/2023 at 9:34 PM, dcbc said:

Far less essentially has ended previous Presidential campaigns.  When I look back on this, it's still a bit unreal that this didn't torpedo everything in 2016 (and there's so much more).  Absolute idiocracy.

It wasn’t a coincidence that the first batch of Russia’s hacked emails from the Clinton campaign were released just 30 minutes after the airing of the Access Hollywood tape. I can’t prove it but I’ll bet as soon as the Access Hollywood tape was made public, Roger Stone was on the phone with Julian Assange shouting “Now!”

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8 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

I think a president referring to their former associate as a "rat" is pretty mob-like too.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-calls-cohen-rat/story?id=59862349

Sorta like having Roy Cohn as your longtime lawyer. Or maybe owning a casino. 

Building buildings in the New York/New Jersey area. 

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1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

That Twitter account is routinely full of shit

TBF she wasn't the only one expecting something - CBS teased that this might be the day last night as were other reporters. 

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19 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, one of the biggest issues in securing a 1/6 indictment of Trump, at least for 1/6 itself, is showing his intention, which has multiple aspects.  One is that he knew he lost the election and another is that he knew that all the fraud claims he made were false and thus that the fake elector scheme and the 1/6 riot he incited to try to force Pence to implement it were done wrongfully and corruptly.  At least theoretically, if a jury can be convinced to a reasonable doubt that Trump believed he was doing what was necessary to overturn what he believed to be an unfair or fraudulent election, he could be acquitted.

Some of this will bear on that.

You sure they need to prove he knew the fraud claims were bogus? Seems like believing there was fraud shouldn't make it legal to make a counterfeit elector slate thing and send it to Congress. Even if there had been fraud, there was no information indicated he was the true winner but for the fraud. 

I'm certain that genuinely believing you were robbed is not a defense to inciting a riot to stay in power. 

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28 minutes ago, The Dog said:

TBF she wasn't the only one expecting something - CBS teased that this might be the day last night as were other reporters. 

If everything follows to form, we won't know anything until Trump rants about being arrested on such and such date on truth.  That's what's happened both the last two times, the indictment was unsealed after the arrest and arraignment in New York, and only revealed only after Trump leaked his impending arrest in Florida.  I have to imagine once he's informed of his notice to surrender he will be the first to air it, not the other way around.  

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2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

That Twitter account is routinely full of shit

Jesus Christ, pig. Next, you're going to try and tell me that $9.95ers routinely post bullshit rumors just to get clicks.

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1 hour ago, Hookah Horns said:

You sure they need to prove he knew the fraud claims were bogus? Seems like believing there was fraud shouldn't make it legal to make a counterfeit elector slate thing and send it to Congress. Even if there had been fraud, there was no information indicated he was the true winner but for the fraud. 

I'm certain that genuinely believing you were robbed is not a defense to inciting a riot to stay in power. 

I don't think it's a legal requirement, but it's kind of like "motive, means, and opportunity," something you think you need to persuade a jury.

Another thing I read mentioned that there were some "privately commissioned" investigation materials that also pretty much came up empty, but that the prosecution was anxious to know of everything that might be dredged up by the defense to defend his false beliefs.  I'm sure they could deal with anything that came up, but they'd prefer not to have to debunk some new shit on the fly.

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12 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

 

 

 

CNN article headline “Special counsel received documents from Giuliani team that tried to find fraud after 2020 election”

Tweet: “A Trump ally has turned over thousands of documents to special counsel Jack Smith – including materials that haven’t been previously disclosed to investigators looking into events surrounding January 6, 2021.”


In CNN article 

“They also include communications between investigators hired by Giuliani – including Kerik – about the debunked report about irregularities in Antrim County, Michigan, that Trump was repeatedly told was bogus but continued to tout up to and on January 6, 2021.”

 

I didn't mean the CNN headline was bullshit the tweet headline was. 

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“They also include communications between investigators hired by Giuliani – including Kerik – about the debunked report about irregularities in Antrim County, Michigan, that Trump was repeatedly told was bogus but continued to tout up to and on January 6, 2021.”

That's proving my point. It's talking about the made up fraudulent bullshit Guiliani and his people were coming up with about election fraud in places like Michigan and Pennsylvania. It only says Trump touted them in the lead up to Jan 6 but doesn't say the communications were about Trump or his involvement in planning Jan 6. 

The tweet was worded to sound like he turned over documents related to trump's involvement in Jan 6 when the article only mentions documents related to their search for fraudulent votes.

Possibly some of them detail informing trump that there is no evidence of election fraud but that wasn't specified and neither was anything related to trump's direct involvement in Jan 6. 

It's another in a long line of bullshit misleading tweets that make the situation sound like something it isn't.  Most people just see the tweet and never bother to read the article to see what is really being said, and  they get all pissed wondering why more isn't being done when the tweets make it sound like something it's not. 

23 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why would he have thousands of docs on that?  They conspired entirely by email?

Case in point. He's wondering why they would have thousands of documents on trump's involvement in Jan 6 when that isn't what the article was about at all. 

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Case in point. He's wondering why they would have thousands of documents on trump's involvement in Jan 6 when that isn't what the article was about at all. 

I get that, but “Jan 6 charges =/ “causing the violent riot/insurrection.

It’s also about DOTARD knowing that he actually lost and (as evidenced in the documents) conspired to formally make himself President by unlawfully getting electors to cast votes for him.
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I really can't wait for him to be gone from the earth forever. He changes my mood.

"I made a perfect visit to that liquor store and they put me in jail!"

"You robbed it at gunpoint."

"Perfect visit! I asked 1000 lawyers yesterday and they all said it was perfect!"

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20 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

The Eastern European nation that bella Russia is about to take?

Yeah, the one that was cobbled together after WW2 by Stollen. 

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