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[SydneyCarton 47836]

2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Ya’ll do not credit the grift $ from him running enough. 

 

He loves money, but he's always had money. I think part of him thinks he'll always find a way to make more money. 

Versus a late 70's piece of shit narcisist who's gotten away with everything his entire life without consequences...yeah, I don't think it's a stretch to say he thinks he's a fucking god.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19092]

10 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Bernie Kerik is a fucking crook.

[SydneyCarton 47836]

1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

 

I can, and probably have, fapped to this.

If you know, you know.

 

 

That's not just his goal. It's the GOP's goal. They've become a party centered around one man, and they know that they will never win another national election unless they take drastic action. So they're taking drastic action.

He's a sociopathic narcissist who's bedtime reading has been Mein Kampf. If you think it's a stretch to think that once tasking the power of the presidency, a fucking class A narcissist in his waning years wouldn't make the leap to thinking he's rightfully a King, I don't know what to tell you. And at this point, it's hard to know where Trump ends and the GOP begins. They can both want the same thing, they can both be true at the same time. 

59 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

So they weren't actually crimes, then.

Unless you've got evidence to show for these that nobody's ever seen before.

I mean, he did lose the case on rape, no?

This is a bad fucking take, and you're going to get drug for it, justifiably. You should mea culpa now. 

[Pato del Muerto 52337]

3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

he might hang himself.

Thank you for the beautiful mental image on this Monday. 

[hobbes2702 12791]

1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

So they weren't actually crimes, then.

Unless you've got evidence to show for these that nobody's ever seen before.

I mean, he did lose the case on rape, no?

Stupid post is stupid

[Native Horn 3485]

6 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Thank you for the beautiful mental image on this Monday. 

Imma cut a bitch if it's still Monday.

[Rimbo 25766]

37 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The guy is saying it's not a crime if it doesn't go to trial.  Please tell me you don't agree.

No, no, TwiceHorn has the right idea.

He's never gotten indicted on criminal charges and gotten away with it.

Yes, it's a crime either way. Obviously.

But "getting away with it" because you were never charged, and "getting away with it" because you beat the rap, are entirely different things.

There's a lot of y'all who are acting like they're the same thing: "Because he has never been charged with his crimes before, he will get away with it now that he has been charged" is such a stupid argument.

[Pato del Muerto 52337]

1 minute ago, Native Horn said:

Imma cut a bitch if it's still Monday.

Dammit. Just can’t figure out this pacific time stuff. 

[Rimbo 25766]

19 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

He's a sociopathic narcissist who's bedtime reading has been Mein Kampf. If you think it's a stretch to think that once tasking the power of the presidency, a fucking class A narcissist in his waning years wouldn't make the leap to thinking he's rightfully a King, I don't know what to tell you. And at this point, it's hard to know where Trump ends and the GOP begins. They can both want the same thing, they can both be true at the same time.

So you basically 100% agree with what I just said, then?

[hobbes2702 12791]

Just now, Rimbo said:

No, no, TwiceHorn has the right idea.

He's never gotten indicted on criminal charges and gotten away with it.

Yes, it's a crime either way. Obviously.

But "getting away with it" because you were never charged, and "getting away with it" because you beat the rap, are entirely different things.

There's a lot of y'all who are acting like they're the same thing: "Because he has never been charged with his crimes before, he will get away with it now that he has been charged" is such a stupid argument.

I think the more stupid argument is claiming you have to be charged for a crime to have occurred. But please tell everyone else how they are stupid

[Rimbo 25766]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Is this a bit?  

A crime doesn't require indictment to occur.  And, the rape case was civil.  The results do seem to go to the point that he raped her, which is . . . a crime.

 

1 hour ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Are you really this fucking dumb? 

 

46 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The guy is saying it's not a crime if it doesn't go to trial.  Please tell me you don't agree.

 

6 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Stupid post is stupid

Yep. Neg away.

[SydneyCarton 47836]

3 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

So you basically 100% agree with what I just said, then?

Or you were basically 100% agreeing with what I initially said, but you just chose to agree with me in a way that sounded like you were completely disagreeing with me? Ok then.

Did you hit your head or put on your Anastasis hat this morning?

[Rimbo 25766]

3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

I think the more stupid argument is claiming you have to be charged for a crime to have occurred. But please tell everyone else how they are stupid

yeah, that was more stupid

but that doesn't make the other argument any less idiotic just because I said something even dumber 😉

[TwiceHorn 31241]

49 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The guy is saying it's not a crime if it doesn't go to trial.  Please tell me you don't agree.

I do agree, with you.   The original premise was that Trump was some kind of court wizard, which is patently untrue.

That evolved or devolved into whether he gets away with crimes, and with respect to uncharged crimes that is certainly true.  We shall see about the charged ones.

[Biff Tannen 45491]

1 hour ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Well, tax evasion, fraud, and rape to name three.  Just because he has not been charged does not mean the crimes weren't committed.

Tax evasion was LABORIOUSLY laid out in a massive New York Times article. That alone should have spurred action by someone. I still don’t get why it didn’t. 

[Rimbo 25766]

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

Or you were basically 100% agreeing with what I initially said, but you just chose to agree with me in a way that sounded like you were completely disagreeing with me? Ok then.

Did you hit your head or put on your Anastasis hat this morning?

I literally can't find the thing I said in that block of text that you're disagreeing with.

[jimmyjazz 45540]

Jesus Christ.  @wildcat09 said, and I quote:

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He’s actually been getting away with crimes his entire life.

He didn't imply that Trump had ever beaten the rap in criminal court.  He was clearly saying that Trump has committed many crimes over the years and has never gotten punished for them.

[SydneyCarton 47836]

4 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

I literally can't find the thing I said in that block of text that you're disagreeing with.

Yeah, I missed the "Not" part of "not just his goal" in your ealrier post. I erad it as "THat's not what Trump wants, it's what the GOP wants." I was like WTF?

[YGIFS 19449]

Not one you asshats can post the "Stripes" .gif?

"Have you ever been convicted of a felony?"

"Convicted?  No, not convicted."  

[locodos 5330]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Tax evasion was LABORIOUSLY laid out in a massive New York Times article. That alone should have spurred action by someone. I still don’t get why it didn’t. 

The one time I dealt with Federal law enforcement I was gobsmacked that they ration their efforts because essentially there is more crime than they can prosecute given their resources.   We had evidence of a crime committed by an employee giftwrapped in a nice little bow.  I remember being in a meeting with our outside counsel and Southern District Attorney and they basically turned us down cold.  "This is Miami, I don't have time for anything under $10million dollars."  She went on to say that the case was clear but difficult to convey to a jury and that it would take too much of their time for too small of a result"   She suggested trying to get the FBI interested in ecommerce aspect of the case.

tl/dr

• Crime it up In Miami/Southern District
• Keep it under $10mil
• Make it too complex for a jury to understand easily
• Profit

 

[Rimbo 25766]

8 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Yeah, I missed the "Not" part of "not just his goal" in your ealrier post. I erad it as "THat's not what Trump wants, it's what the GOP wants." I was like WTF?

Given the sloppiness in my posts thus far this morning, highly understandable.

[TwiceHorn 31241]

13 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Tax evasion was LABORIOUSLY laid out in a massive New York Times article. That alone should have spurred action by someone. I still don’t get why it didn’t. 

That particular tax evasion happened more than 20 years ago and limitations had expired.

Another example of NY County DA and USAO SD NY laying off the sack of shit.

[The Dog 43785]

 

[Rimbo 25766]

11 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Jesus Christ.  @wildcat09 said, and I quote:

He didn't imply that Trump had ever beaten the rap in criminal court.  He was clearly saying that Trump has committed many crimes over the years and has never gotten punished for them.

Yeah, but it's not the same thing. Evading charges, and beating them after indictment, are entirely different animals.

Especially when the indictment comes from the federal government, notoriously conservative in what charges they levy, to keep that 99% conviction rate.

[TwiceHorn 31241]

2 minutes ago, locodos said:

The one time I dealt with Federal law enforcement I was gobsmacked that they ration their efforts because essentially there is more crime than they can prosecute given their resources.   We had evidence of a crime committed by an employee giftwrapped in a nice little bow.  I remember being in a meeting with our outside counsel and Southern District Attorney and they basically turned us down cold.  "This is Miami, I don't have time for anything under $10million dollars."  She went on to say that the case was clear but difficult to convey to a jury and that it would take too much of their time for too small of a result"   She suggested trying to get the FBI interested in ecommerce aspect of the case.

tl/dr

• Crime it up In Miami/Southern District
• Keep it under $10mil
• Make it too complex for a jury to understand easily
• Profit

 

I'm curious why you went to SD Fla instead of Dade County?  Did you ever go to Dade County?

The feds really ought not be anyone's first stop for "reporting crimes" unless it's a very federal crime.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19092]

2 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

It is like they are really trying to get the fuck slapped out of them.  What a fucking joke.  Is this enough to hold them in contempt?

[TwiceHorn 31241]

Just now, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

It is like they are really trying to get the fuck slapped out of them.  What a fucking joke.  Is this enough to hold them in contempt?

Hardly.  

The judge is just going to pick a day, probably Thursday, and say tough shit on both lawyers being present.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19092]

Just now, TwiceHorn said:

Hardly.  

The judge is just going to pick a day, probably Thursday, and say tough shit on both lawyers being present.

Good.

[TwiceHorn 31241]

1 minute ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Good.

Also, they didn't say anything about Wednesday, so it will probably be Wednesday.

A protective order is really no big deal, just a procedural thing.  They can be modified later if they truly prove to be unworkable for some specific reason, which would place the burden on Trumpco to articulate some specific reason, which might be fun.

[Biff Tannen 45491]

9 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

That particular tax evasion happened more than 20 years ago and limitations had expired.

Another example of NY County DA and USAO SD NY laying off the sack of shit.

Can I get a tl;dr version of why some things have statute of limitations and some don’t?  Or why some are longer than others?  

[YGIFS 19449]

Just now, Biff Tannen said:

Can I get a tl;dr version of why some things have statute of limitations and some don’t?  Or why some are longer than others?  

It's not "Statute", okay?  It's "Statue"  !!!

Also, August 15th is first day of school.  So works fine for me for first day of Trump's death trial.  Kids will be in school so I can easily take up a serious heroin/mezcal addiction and be awake in time for bus drop-off.  

[Biff Tannen 45491]

1 minute ago, YGIFS said:

It's not "Statute", okay?  It's "Statue"  !!!

Also, August 15th is first day of school.  So works fine for me for first day of Trump's death trial.  Kids will be in school so I can easily take up a serious heroin/mezcal addiction and be awake in time for bus drop-off.  

I knew this was coming 

[TwiceHorn 31241]

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

Can I get a tl;dr version of why some things have statute of limitations and some don’t?  Or why some are longer than others?  

Just about everything has a statute of limitations.  The general, sort of average s/l is five years.

More serious crimes tend to have longer statutes, both because the investigation may take longer and to avoid criminals escaping prosecution.

Notably, rapey crimes and child sexual abuse crimes have been having their statutes of limitation extended, from a more typical five years to 20 or none.  NY extended their rape s/l to 20 years and also, for one year, let people like E. Jean Carroll, bring civil suits in cases where limitations had already expired.

[dcbc 14398]

3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Just about everything has a statute of limitations.  The general, sort of average s/l is five years.

More serious crimes tend to have longer statutes, both because the investigation may take longer and to avoid criminals escaping prosecution.

Notably, rapey crimes and child sexual abuse crimes have been having their statutes of limitation extended, from a more typical five years to 20 or none.  NY extended their rape s/l to 20 years and also, for one year, let people like E. Jean Carroll, bring civil suits in cases where limitations had already expired.

No SOL on murder, at least not in Texas.

[locodos 5330]

2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I'm curious why you went to SD Fla instead of Dade County?  Did you ever go to Dade County?

The feds really ought not be anyone's first stop for "reporting crimes" unless it's a very federal crime.

Oh we went to everybody, started off with the city, then county.  There was an internet aspect to the case and all the local authorities kept pointing us up the ladder.  They were all like "Yeah this is an issue, but we just don't have the resources for that sort of thing."    IIRC the employee stole about $4mil. of inventory/service and sold them on ebay and other online venues.  The only reason they eventually were charged is that one E level exec wanted a scalp and didn't care what it cost.  Hence retaining outside counsel to help shop the case to law enforcement.

 

[wildcat09 29213]

The statutes of limitations for crimes that wealthy people or members of Congress/state legislatures might get caught committing tend to be shorter than for crimes for which poor and minorities are disproportionately arrested. One guess as to why.

[Biff Tannen 45491]

8 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The statutes of limitations for crimes that wealthy people or members of Congress/state legislatures might get caught committing tend to be shorter than for crimes for which poor and minorities are disproportionately arrested. One guess as to why.

This is what I was getting at. It’s fucking horseshit. If anything, white collar crime should never have an expiration.  That shit is so much more evil. 

[jimmyjazz 45540]

31 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Yeah, but it's not the same thing.

I didn't say they were.  Nor did he.

[Hermanator 6930]

57 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

No, no, TwiceHorn has the right idea.

He's never gotten indicted on criminal charges and gotten away with it.

Yes, it's a crime either way. Obviously.

But "getting away with it" because you were never charged, and "getting away with it" because you beat the rap, are entirely different things.

There's a lot of y'all who are acting like they're the same thing: "Because he has never been charged with his crimes before, he will get away with it now that he has been charged" is such a stupid argument.

[Rimbo 25766]

12 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I didn't say they were.  Nor did he.

So the sentiment is, "Trump is going to get away with it again, even though this time is clearly different from every time before since he's actually indicted?"

Maybe it's just me, but that somehow makes even less sense.

I mean... neither "it's the same" nor "he always gets away with it even though he has never been indicted before when the government has a 99% conviction rate" make sense to me.

How do either of those make sense?

[jimmyjazz 45540]

5 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

So the sentiment is, "Trump is going to get away with it again, even though this time is clearly different from every time before since he's actually indicted?"

Maybe it's just me, but that somehow makes even less sense.

I mean... neither "it's the same" nor "he always gets away with it even though he has never been indicted before when the government has a 99% conviction rate" make sense to me.

How do either of those make sense?

Go home, you're drunk.

[Rimbo 25766]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Go home, you're drunk.

But I'm RIGHT and you know it. 😁

[SydneyCarton 47836]

1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

But I'm RIGHT and you know it. 😁

This was also you, being right?

 

2 hours ago, Rimbo said:

So they weren't actually crimes, then.

[Gatorubet 30083]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

 

But August 14 and 15th of what year?

 

Advantage Trump!

[Rimbo 25766]

4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

This was also you, being right?

 

No, that was me being wrong. Ya silly.

[Gatorubet 30083]

32 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is what I was getting at. It’s fucking horseshit. If anything, white collar crime should never have an expiration.  That shit is so much more evil. 

Oh look, Jean Valjean!

 

 

 

 

j/k. agree

[G650 14074]

Jesus yall

[hayden_horn 11360]

fucking christ, let's concentrate our negative energy away from each other, some motherfucker just threw his cap in the air, let's goooo

[Lurch 5921]

6 minutes ago, G650 said:

Jesus yall

It's cloak room off-season (ie, between Trump trials)

[Js1 85085]

7 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

fucking christ, let's concentrate our negative energy away from each other, some motherfucker just threw his cap in the air, let's goooo