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  On 8/23/2023 at 3:13 PM, C-Man said:

Further fuel from the fire from TWSJ: https://www.wsj.com/us-news/mar-a-lago-it-director-flipped-on-trump-after-switching-lawyers-prosecutors-say-649b49c2

It's infuriating to still read "yeah, but mean tweets" from dipshit MAGA fucks on social media. Yeah, dipshit, it's because he tweeted "mean" things. That's why we want him swinging from the yardarm.

 

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Smith is working through all of them and peeling them off to get them non-MAGA counsel who will get them to flip:

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  On 8/23/2023 at 3:15 PM, Underdog said:

Fee for fundraiser at club. 
Trump appearance fee. 
Trump skimming off top. 
Rudy still at square by one. 

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Rudy isn't going to see a dime of that I'd bet. Trump needs the money for lawyers too.

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  On 8/23/2023 at 3:49 PM, The Dog said:

Smith is working through all of them and peeling them off to get them non-MAGA counsel who will get them to flip:

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Rudy isn't going to see a dime of that I'd bet. Trump needs the money for lawyers too.

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In the fine print:

 

 

*99.8% of funds go to the Donald J Trump Patriot Legal Fund 

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Posted
  On 8/23/2023 at 12:28 PM, Lurch said:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just say “I’m more popular than Jesus”.  I’ve long thought that may be the one thing that would backfire on him.  I’m no longer as certain, but it would be an enjoyable theory to test.
Meh. Jesus wasn't all that popular in his day.
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  On 8/23/2023 at 4:04 PM, Born to Run said:
  On 8/23/2023 at 12:28 PM, Lurch said:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just say “I’m more popular than Jesus”.  I’ve long thought that may be the one thing that would backfire on him.  I’m no longer as certain, but it would be an enjoyable theory to test.
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Meh. Jesus wasn't all that popular in his day.

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Maybe he’ll get the same fate. Without the resurrection of course. 

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Say what you want about Trump's inept lawyers.  getting that many powerful people who actually have something to lose, to lie to federal prosecutors about attempting to overthrow the U.S. Government or a properly conducted Presidential Election in exchange for next to nothing?  That's not nothing.  They may suck at pre-trial filings, motions, and actual trials.  But that's a skill set that's respectable.  

And it completely proves what his minions have refused to believe for decades.  There are two justice systems in our country.  Hundreds and Hundreds of January 6th rubes are rotting in prison with not so much as a $5 canteen donation or 1 hour of legal advice paid for by Donald Trump as he promised he would do.  And some of them really didn't do anything that serious but steal a pen on the way outta the Capitol but they're getting the shit beat out of them in federal lockup later today.  But more than half of the college educated, white collar co-conspirators to overthrow our Republic will walk away from that courthouse with no punishment at all and make six figures on the speaking/adjunct professor circuit.  Because we have two parallel systems.  The flag waving, gun owning, patriots?  They'll do every fucking last day of their sentence and they'll do it in fear and pain, wondering why their god has forsaken them.  Most of the powerful white people are getting away with all of this.  

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  On 8/23/2023 at 12:28 PM, Lurch said:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just say “I’m more popular than Jesus”.  I’ve long thought that may be the one thing that would backfire on him.  I’m no longer as certain, but it would be an enjoyable theory to test.

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I'm not sure it would any more.

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  On 8/23/2023 at 12:32 PM, BamaATL said:

I take it he hasn't seen any of 60 days in.  Fuck Bangkok making a hard man humble, Fulton County jail is no joke.  Trump will obviously have protection, but some of these clowns being in would be the scariest thing they have ever done.  I'm not agreeing with the state of what we have, including the desperate need for reform for the mentality ill to be in proper facilities and receive care, but right now, that's where they are.  So what you have is violent mentally ill people, who may or may not being getting their meds, packed into an overcrowded old building with failing mechanical systems, that is understaffed.  For ordinary people, not hardened by this sort of stuff, it's a shit your pants situation.  

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It's a true Leopards Eating Faces moment. GOP members getting convicted on charges due to their own tough on crime laws, suffering in a shitty prison due to their own deliberate neglect.

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  On 8/23/2023 at 3:51 PM, Js1 said:

In the fine print:

 

 

*99.8% of funds go to the Donald J Trump Patriot Legal Fund 

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Dammit.  Just beat me to the joke.

Seriously, whatever amount they raise (can you imagine forking over $100k for the privilege of a chicken dinner will Cheeto Benito and Painthead Rudy?), less than 5% will actually go to Rudy's legal defense.

Rudy.  Friend.  You should know this from your days prosecuting mobsters.  Once you are no longer useful to the Mafia Don, you get cut loose.  You're on your own now.

 

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Posted
  On 8/23/2023 at 10:54 AM, Francisco 2.0 said:

So, Dan OingoBoingo wants Trump to actually serve a day in jail, to show how Alpha he is, or something like that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dramatic posturing gestures are important to guys like Dan Bongino, and to the short little women who scream at them.

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  On 8/23/2023 at 1:13 PM, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

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Honest question--who the fuck is paying $100K for dinner with Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani?  If you have that kind of scratch, you buy your access through other (more effective) means.

And anyway--who with access to that kind of money wants access to Trump right now given where he is politically and legally?  The last thing you want to do is be known as a donor to this shitfest.  You might as well ask for a subpoena.  And at a time when Trump is pretty damned unlikely to win the presidency, there appears to be very little benefit.

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  On 8/23/2023 at 5:12 PM, Ghost of LL said:

Honest question--who the fuck is paying $100K for dinner with Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani?  If you have that kind of scratch, you buy your access through other (more effective) means.

And anyway--who with access to that kind of money wants access to Trump right now given where he is politically and legally?  The last thing you want to do is be known as a donor to this shitfest.  You might as well ask for a subpoena.  And at a time when Trump is pretty damned unlikely to win the presidency, there appears to be very little benefit.

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Probably the 100K is suggested retail, but if you show up waving a grand plus a handful of Topps baseball cards, you can get in somewhere and I don't even mean by the kitchen door.

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  On 8/23/2023 at 5:12 PM, Ghost of LL said:

Honest question--who the fuck is paying $100K for dinner with Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani?  If you have that kind of scratch, you buy your access through other (more effective) means.

And anyway--who with access to that kind of money wants access to Trump right now given where he is politically and legally?  The last thing you want to do is be known as a donor to this shitfest.  You might as well ask for a subpoena.  And at a time when Trump is pretty damned unlikely to win the presidency, there appears to be very little benefit.

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The donations to a legal defense fund have different disclosures than do those to a political campaign or PAC.  So it would be difficult to get a list of people that dumb, with that kinda money, to part ways with $100k to back people who are about to be in deep shit.  Thankfully, both the resort and event organizers have substance abuse issues and gambling debts.  One of them will turn over the list for $20,000, guaranteed.  Plenty of oppo teams are already on it.  Plus you'll get a few folks that are so damn proud to be there, they'll let  slip who was at their table anyway

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  On 8/23/2023 at 5:12 PM, Ghost of LL said:

Honest question--who the fuck is paying $100K for dinner with Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani?  If you have that kind of scratch, you buy your access through other (more effective) means.

And anyway--who with access to that kind of money wants access to Trump right now given where he is politically and legally?  The last thing you want to do is be known as a donor to this shitfest.  You might as well ask for a subpoena.  And at a time when Trump is pretty damned unlikely to win the presidency, there appears to be very little benefit.

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I'm assuming few will pay, but this is Trump's way of placating Rudy and his legal fees.  Trump can say he "tried".

Next stop is a telethon.  You know damned well stupid ass Lindell will gladly broadcast that to the hundreds that would watch.

 

 

 

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Posted
  On 8/23/2023 at 12:28 PM, Lurch said:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just say “I’m more popular than Jesus”.  I’ve long thought that may be the one thing that would backfire on him.  I’m no longer as certain, but it would be an enjoyable theory to test.

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‘like Jesus, I’m being persecuted to death. Some even say I’m more popular than him. Not all but some.’

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  On 8/23/2023 at 1:49 PM, dcbc said:

"But the law presumes, absent a strong showing to the contrary, that a grand jury acts within the legitimate scope of its authority,” and the defendant has the burden of showing that the Government’s use of the grand jury was improper."  Well, it appears as though Cannon, J. was asking the wrong party to prove this up.  Whoops. 

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Well, the real place to bring up grand jury misconduct is a motion to quash/dismiss the indictment, where the burden will be on Trump/Nauta.  I'm not sure there's really anything she can do at this stage, legitimately, at least.

But, you gotta admit, when the government shows you grand jury testimony from another district right after filing a superseding indictment in your district, that' does raise some questions.  Questions really only the government can answer.

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Posted
  On 8/23/2023 at 7:04 PM, TwiceHorn said:

We need a statute that says a former President can't call himself President once out of office.  That's such syphilitic behavior.

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It used to be a sign of respect when former presidents were referred to as "President so-and-so".

Trump pretty much destroyed that standard.

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  On 8/23/2023 at 7:02 PM, TwiceHorn said:

But, you gotta admit, when the government shows you grand jury testimony from another district right after filing a superseding indictment in your district, that' does raise some questions.  Questions really only the government can answer.

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Except for the fact that the government already told her under seal about the conflict arising from the potential perjury before the DC grand jury. There’s no excuse for her falling victim to the Fox News “Doesn’t this seem improper?” trolling

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Posted (edited)
  On 8/23/2023 at 7:15 PM, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

How much of this ends up in Rudy's pocket? $1k per guest?

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Well the first 10 guests pay for trump’s appearance fee, the next 10 pay for the venue which trump owns, they’ll probably charge a hundred grand to serve some crostini and then a chicken piccata lovingly thawed after Sysco delivery…so how many reservations can they expect at that price point?

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  On 8/23/2023 at 7:27 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

Well the first 10 guests pay for trump’s appearance fee, the next 10 pay for the venue which trump owns, they’ll probably charge a hundred grand to serve some crostini and then a chicken piccata lovingly thawed after Sysco delivery…so how many reservations can they expect at that price point?

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Even better, Trump will use this as a "charitable" occasion and take it as a deduction as well.

 

 

 

 

 

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  On 8/23/2023 at 7:22 PM, Pig Bellmont said:

Except for the fact that the government already told her under seal about the conflict arising from the potential perjury before the DC grand jury. There’s no excuse for her falling victim to the Fox News “Doesn’t this seem improper?” trolling

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Look, she’s just asking questions.

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  On 8/23/2023 at 7:02 PM, TwiceHorn said:

Well, the real place to bring up grand jury misconduct is a motion to quash/dismiss the indictment, where the burden will be on Trump/Nauta.  I'm not sure there's really anything she can do at this stage, legitimately, at least.

But, you gotta admit, when the government shows you grand jury testimony from another district right after filing a superseding indictment in your district, that' does raise some questions.  Questions really only the government can answer.

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I don't see what's so suspicious about it, especially when everyone knows dotard is under investigation for various crimes across this great land. And in any event any question should be raised by defendants, not the judge. That still pisses me off. 



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