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[The Dog 43801]

 

[The Dog 43801]

Not sure how many of these are covered by this ruling:

Assets Owned by the Trump Organization

[YGIFS 19449]

This would explain why Eric attempted to file a de novo charter on non-domiciled fintech-based bank earlier this summer.  They're going to try to "bank themselves."  Unfortunately, they didn't get it filed with the OCC before this ruling came down.  So I'm guessing, it'll be done through another pass-thru.  The Jerky Boys predicted all of this...

"Did you have a depository institution, Sol?" 

-yeah, but it was through a friend

[Born to Run 6567]

 
You're not good at taking a good natured ribbing. 

Definitely not into the whole brevity thing.

[Chopper 17154]

I'm looking forward to hearing more about how this impacts Allen Weisselberg and his willingness to avoid grassing on trump because he didn't want to lose the bribe money.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

13 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Dude, I have laughed more at myself in the last year on here than anybody.  I pos rep almost every joke at my expense.  I just get sensitive at the bitching about me coming back as another handle (not directed at you, other cunts who've posted my real name and other shit), like it was a masterful crime.  There was a whole thread devoted to it in Board Help for like three months.  I can laugh it off, except the real name part.  I just get salty because it's a fine line between jokes at my expense (totally fine) and then people probing around and discussing whey I came back on other threads that refer to the thread that brought me back.  If that makes sense.  But guys like Bearschlong, Twicehorn, Macanudo, et. al.  I could take or leave this place, as it could with me, but those guys helped me get outta my comfort zone to take care of some shit and I love them for it.  

Now back to our regularly scheduled face-fucking of Donald trump and jokes about me. 

nobody cares

[YGIFS 19449]

You sound like Trump talking to Tiffany.  

 

I mean, if he did ever talk to her.

Edited September 26, 2023 by YGIFS

[royiv 9154]

2 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

You sound like Trump talking to Tiffany.  

 

I mean, if he did ever talk to her.

My man, quit making it all about you and resorting to childish insults. Oh, wait, I think I must made a connection to how a certain someone behaves... 

[The Dog 43801]

 

[royiv 9154]

1 minute ago, The Dog said:

 

Surprised he didn't also say Russia.

[YGIFS 19449]

Tiffanys silence is understandable.  But even cokedup Don, Jr. has gotten eerily quiet lately.  Eric is probably still struggling with the same revolving door at Trump Tower, so his absence makes sense.  Ivanka and Jared have been incredibly effective at getting off the grid, I almost tip my hat to them.  And Melania and Barron are nowhere to be seen.  I'm sure his supporters will say, "Trump is an old-school, Gary Cooper type.  He'd never drag his family through all of this.  He'll go it alone and spare them the drama!"  But one by one, his inner circle and family are abandoning him.  They're seen with him in public less and less.  Who the fuck is on that big 757 with him?  No idea.  

But now they're gonna start getting Trump Organization C-level/mid-level folks to start folding.  People who at least had the justification in the mirror every morning of, "I know he's not totally on the up-and-up and I didn't like him as President.  But I'm just a senior analyst or investor relations specialist or SVP for marketing.  I did my job and did it above board."  To carry out this level of fraud, it wasn't just Trump and the boys...many others in that building were in on it down to the initial underwriting teams.  Rudy or Flynn might take one for Team Trump to continue on with millions in grifting but Doug and Linda in Trump Org.'s accounting department don't have an out.  They either lose licenses, jobs, and financial assets or they cooperate.  The worst part is they won't be able to afford decent counsel.  They'll be seen as collaborating with AG James and they'll spend the rest of their lives looking over their shoulders.  The horrors that await some of these poor fuckers.  

[Brisketexan 104590]

36 minutes ago, royiv said:

You're not good at taking a good natured ribbing. 

Remember, YGIFS is ribbed, for our pleasure.

Or something like that.

[YGIFS 19449]

Jesus man, even for you---that's sick. 

Personally I would have expected an Aggie sheepskin rubber joke from you.  But you've been losing your edge for awhile, we just didn't have the heart to tell you.  

Anyway, I'm skimming these asset mis-statements.  This is fucking insane.  I am not being hyperbolic at all.  Beau Vine and I used to joke on here that this could make for a couple of lectures in B-school on corporate workout deals.  BUt this is a fucking semester-long course in workouts.  There's drug cartels looking at this shit like, "Wait, you can do that for 30 years to obfuscate financial information and you don't even have to murder children?  Da fuh?  PACO!  GET IN HERE!"  

[MC Fresh Breath 4074]

a bit more fun from NYT:

 

Quote

 

Justice Engoron’s decision narrows the issues that will be heard at trial, deciding that the core of Ms. James’s case was valid. It represents a major blow to Mr. Trump, whose lawyers had sought to persuade the judge to throw out many claims against the former president.

In his order, Justice Engoron wrote scathingly about Mr. Trump’s defenses, saying that the former president and the other defendants, including his two adult sons and his company, ignored reality when it suited their business needs. “In defendants’ world,” he wrote, “rent-regulated apartments are worth the same as unregulated apartments; restricted land is worth the same as unrestricted land; restrictions can evaporate into thin air.”

“That is a fantasy world, not the real world,” he added.

The judge also levied sanctions on Mr. Trump’s lawyers for making arguments that he previously rejected. He ordered each to pay $7,500, noting that he had previously warned them that the arguments in question bordered on being frivolous.

Repeating them was “indefensible,” Justice Engoron wrote.

 

Quote

 

But Justice Engoron, with whom Mr. Trump’s lawyers have tangled at every turn, mocked those arguments.

“The documents do not say what they say; that there is no such thing as ‘objective’ value,” the judge wrote, summarizing his take on their arguments, and adding, “Essentially, the court should not believe its own eyes.”

In a footnote, he added a quote from the movie “Duck Soup” uttered by Chico Marx: “Well, who ya gonna believe, me or your own eyes?”

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/26/nyregion/trump-james-fraud-trial.html

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

A Marx brother?  That’s bait. 

[The Dog 43801]

 

[G650 14102]

1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

  I wasn't planning on coming back

That's what they all say.

[TheStoicPaisano 9904]

17 minutes ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

a bit more fun from NYT:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/26/nyregion/trump-james-fraud-trial.html

Every time I see that Justice’s name I think demigorgon.

[YGIFS 19449]

I like to think of a simpler time.  Don, Jr. and Nate Paul locked themselves in a downtown Austin high-rise closet in 2015.  Don, Jr is talking about he over-inflates real estate assets to lure investors, falsify IRR claims, and boost his father's image as brilliant businessman.  Nate, while leaning back into the drip, inquires, "Wait, you can do that?  We've got a buncha holdings on our books but I can't develop it for what I need to make everybody happy."  Don, Jr. grabs the straw, "Bro, I can totally walk you through it.  It's so fucking easy.  My dad's gonna head into the election looking like a multi-billionaire.  All you need is some political coverage like us.  I've got my Dad and the GOP, who can you get to help you?"  Nate pauses, opens the closet door, "Ken, get in here.  Take this (hands him straw).  We got an idea."  

[Pescado_Rojo 19331]

10 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

I like to think of a simpler time.  Don, Jr. and Nate Paul locked themselves in a downtown Austin high-rise closet in 2015.  Don, Jr is talking about he over-inflates real estate assets to lure investors, falsify IRR claims, and boost his father's image as brilliant businessman.  Nate, while leaning back into the drip, inquires, "Wait, you can do that?  We've got a buncha holdings on our books but I can't develop it for what I need to make everybody happy."  Don, Jr. grabs the straw, "Bro, I can totally walk you through it.  It's so fucking easy.  My dad's gonna head into the election looking like a multi-billionaire.  All you need is some political coverage like us.  I've got my Dad and the GOP, who can you get to help you?"  Nate pauses, opens the closet door, "Ken, get in here.  Take this (hands him straw).  We got an idea."  

Goddamnit, that's 100% believable. 

[Francisco 2.0 32322]

4 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

“I didn’t get want to get into this because it’s under an NDA, but look at this binding offer in writing from Prince MBS offering $100 billion for, and I quote, “Mar-A-Lago, plus all its contents including, without limitation, the boxes in the guest bathroom.”  That was from two years ago before the crooked FBI raid put a halt on the deal, so with inflation it’s worth even more now.  And that’s just one of my properties!”

 

Ahem.

 

 

 

 

[Biff Tannen 45492]

nm

Edited September 26, 2023 by Biff Tannen
nm

[WhatTheBuck 28708]

6 hours ago, Red Five said:

Cassidy Hutchinson looked pretty good last night on Maddow. I would like to invite her to the pants party. 

Not bad. Not spectacular, but not bad. Kind of a turnoff when she said she still considers herself a Republican. Not like Trump but more like Ronald Reagan and Mitt Romney. She’s still in her 20’s. I’ll bet her understanding of both men is pretty shallow and superficial. Still…wood.

 

 

[Ted Lange 16041]

Eric is on the case with Zillow comps

 

 

[Chopper 17154]

2 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Kind of a turnoff when she said she still considers herself a Republican.

With the modest qualification that all republicans are dumb traitorous twats, I cut her some slack on that because if she wants to continue to work in politics or government, switching parties isn't an option for the non-elected.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13546]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

 

I can't be corrupted cuz I'll be financing my own campaign! Never forget!

[jimmyjazz 45554]

2 hours ago, YGIFS said:

But most of them have applied for car loans or home loans.

As someone who co-signed on a car loan for his kid about an hour ago, this hits close to home.  Dammit.

[Sawbonz 27421]

47 minutes ago, G650 said:

That's what they all say.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33840]

21 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

No way the idiot has the mental capacity to fill out firearm paper work 

are you kidding? even if if could, he would straight shit himself if he ever fired a gun. even the littlest bit of recoil and the pee would follow. he might be able to shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any voters, but he better be sure he has is diaper on, maybe two

[Francisco 2.0 32322]

Here we go.  A measured, appropriate response to today's ruling:

 

 

 

['stache 21770]

Just now, Francisco 2.0 said:

Here we go.  A measured, appropriate response to today's ruling:

 

 

 

 

[YGIFS 19449]

7 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Eric is on the case with Zillow comps

 

You know deep down inside that before Zillow, Eric spent an hour on the MLS Miami site to find real estate comps, before his personal assistant assured him that "Sir, that is not $59,000,000 for an estate called Lionel Messi on the Intercoastal of Miami.  You're on the Inter-Miami CF site for their best player who gets paid $59mm/year sir.  He's not a house, he's a soccer player.  It's Major League Soccer, not Multiple Listing Services.  Let me queue up Zillow for you.  No, they don't speak Argentinian there, Sir.  They speak Spanish like everybody else in SE Florida.  What?  No, he's not a fucking resort.  He's a Argentine footballer.  Never mind.  Do you want pudding or not?"  

[Brisketexan 104590]

46 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

I like to think of a simpler time.  Don, Jr. and Nate Paul locked themselves in a downtown Austin high-rise closet in 2015.  Don, Jr is talking about he over-inflates real estate assets to lure investors, falsify IRR claims, and boost his father's image as brilliant businessman.  Nate, while leaning back into the drip, inquires, "Wait, you can do that?  We've got a buncha holdings on our books but I can't develop it for what I need to make everybody happy."  Don, Jr. grabs the straw, "Bro, I can totally walk you through it.  It's so fucking easy.  My dad's gonna head into the election looking like a multi-billionaire.  All you need is some political coverage like us.  I've got my Dad and the GOP, who can you get to help you?"  Nate pauses, opens the closet door, "Ken, get in here.  Take this (hands him straw).  We got an idea."  

 

34 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Goddamnit, that's 100% believable. 

Sigh....this.  Seriously, on first read, my thought was "wait, how does YGIFS know that?"

13 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Eric is on the case with Zillow comps

 

 

Today, someone needs to introduce Eric to the following term relevant in appraisal of real property: "stigma."

Appraiser: "Nice house.  I'll have to run some other traps, but looks like it's worth about $250k in this neighborhood"

"Yeah, it is nice.  And it has all new carpets, because we had to replace them all after Jeffrey Dahmer gutted his victims on the old ones and then cooked their flesh in the kitchen. We kept that stove, though -- it's a good gas range, and Jeffrey said it had great temperature control."

Appraiser: "Okay.  So...I'm going to lower my appraised value to tree fiddy now."

[Sawbonz 27421]

It’s like the judge doesn’t even know about the very big, very powerful disclaimer clause 

[Stilicho 1397]

1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

It’s like the judge doesn’t even know about the very big, very powerful disclaimer clause 

Very sophisticated. A lot of people don't know how sophisticated. A lot of people would be shocked at how sophisticated. Very, very, tippy top sophisticated.

[Francisco 2.0 32322]

Just now, Stilicho said:

Very sophisticated. A lot of people don't know how sophisticated. A lot of people would be shocked at how sophisticated. Very, very, tippy top sophisticated.

 

3 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

It’s like the judge doesn’t even know about the very big, very powerful disclaimer clause 

 

Some bigly successful, powerful lawyers have called it the most powerful disclaimer clause they have ever seen.  No one could imagine a clause so powerful.  Only the best lawyers could have made it so powerful.    One big, strong, powerful lawyer came up to me with tears in his eyes, saying he had never read a clause as powerful as the one that had been created for me.

 

[YGIFS 19449]

I don't know much about crisis management, but who advised him to claim Mar-a-Lago was worth $1.8 billion dollars and then close with, "If this can happen to me, it can happen to you!"  I mean, I know the power of the Prosperity Gospel among MAGA nation.  But even an East Texas dumbass, Trump worshipper has to think, "Yeah, I mean I figure they can come for my guns or my job or my F-250 gas-guzzler, but I gotta tell ya' sir...I don't see them coming for my $1.8 billion dollar resort.  Maybe it's worth slightly less sir, I dunno.  I ain't no underwriting queer.  I ain't no under at all, no bottoms here sir.  I'm a top!"  

[tx 3 putt 76347]

7 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

It’s like the judge doesn’t even know about the very big, very powerful disclaimer clause 

trump told them - check my math !

[Captainant 27447]

25 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Eric is on the case with Zillow comps

 

 

Definitely don't look into all the properties he and republican ruling class types sold to oligarchs in the run up to the 2016 election and during the trump presidency. Just absolutely dumping money into those campaigns 

[CTC2 2745]

2 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

I don't know much about crisis management, but who advised him to claim Mar-a-Lago was worth $1.8 billion dollars and then close with, "If this can happen to me, it can happen to you!"  I mean, I know the power of the Prosperity Gospel among MAGA nation.  But even an East Texas dumbass, Trump worshipper has to think, "Yeah, I mean I figure they can come for my guns or my job or my F-250 gas-guzzler, but I gotta tell ya' sir...I don't see them coming for my $1.8 billion dollar resort.  Maybe it's worth slightly less sir, I dunno.  I ain't no underwriting queer.  I ain't no under at all, no bottoms here sir.  I'm a top!"  

There are studies that show that people don’t want bad things to happen to billionaires as they always think there is a chance they could be one. It’s how the GOP has always sold tax cuts to working people. 

[BamaATL 16592]

I'm seriously considering listing my home tonight for the low price of $1.7 billion.  Sure I might be giving up some money, but if it's priced right it will move.  

[tx 3 putt 76347]

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Ahem.

 

 

 

 

 

let’s just make shit up !

17 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

I'm seriously considering listing my home tonight for the low price of $1.7 billion.  Sure I might be giving up some money, but if it's priced right it will move.  

I want to refinance my place, it’s worth $1.5bil 

[BamaATL 16592]

2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

let’s just make shit up !

I want to refinance my place, it’s worth $1.5bil 

You might want to apply with Deutsche Bank, I hear they are quite good.  

[Neonmoon 38127]

2 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

You might want to apply with Deutsche Bank, I hear they are quite good.  

We have all the funding we need out of Russia

[Beau Vine 53999]

2 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

The judge also levied sanctions on Mr. Trump’s lawyers for making arguments that he previously rejected. He ordered each to pay $7,500

Is that supposed to be significant in the legal world?

[tx 3 putt 76347]

1 minute ago, Beau Vine said:

Is that supposed to be significant in the legal world?

you know trump will remembered them 

[Beau Vine 53999]

1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

are you kidding? even if if could, he would straight shit himself if he ever fired a gun. even the littlest bit of recoil and the pee would follow. he might be able to shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any voters, but he better be sure he has is diaper on, maybe two

He does.

[tx 3 putt 76347]

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Ahem.

 

 

 

 

 

what’s it on the tax roll for ?

im sure someone here can look it up 

[TexEx15 17467]

1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

Eric is on the case with Zillow comps

 

 

MAL needs 30 million in renovations to get rid of all of Trump’s hideous “decorations”. Shoulda listened to his realtor when he said don’t over do it because it turns off the next buyer. 

[YGIFS 19449]

Again, I gotta give Commander Dipshit credit.  Literally just received a Summary Judgement indicating he unlawfully misstated financial assets and valuations in order to defraud legitimate banks.  So what does he do? Publicly states his $18mm valuation is easily worth 100x that amount as a basis for invalidating the accusation that he mis-represents his assets.  

Now, MAGA apologists will come forward and say there's a difference between mis-stating to the IRS, to a bank, and then to the general public via media/marketing channels.  Fine, I'll entertain that notion.  Before bed tonight, go to your mailbox.  In it, you will find 2 or 3 marketing mail pieces from various female realtors with soft lighting and a popped collar indicating they are experts in your area.  on the other side will be homes they are currently listing to show you their sales expertise.  The home price will be listed as $1,800,000.  May sell for a bit more, may sell for a bit less.  What they won't do is put in print, "F/S: $1,800,000 which could easily be worth 100x that amount."  Because that's called fraud and Linda would lose her license by mass distributing that through the mail.  At the very worst, she'd fuck over every banking and title relationship she ever had.

But what does MAGA nation do?  They send him more money.