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Imagine your basis of hating Trump is because of mean tweets, January 6 and “hush money” trial all because liberal media is crooked. Fuck right off. This is my last post in this forum  dumb fucki

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When you're a court, you just grab their asset, and they let you do it!

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Bye bitch. Enjoy living in literal hell if your man Biden is re elected

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8 hours ago, Rimbo said:

The only reason you pay more is to get that high end experience... the nice display, the quiet laptop, snappy UI response times, long battery life... only one of which you'd get from a ROG/Alienware etc.

In short, the probability she's using that laptop for its intended purpose -- games -- is basically 1, minus maybe a few ten thousandths.

6 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

Counter point:  Takes a lot of power to run a local AI lawyering bot.  CrapshootGPT requires some heavy processing power.

She went into Best Buy, bought the first gaming laptop she saw, because she wanted to play this

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Just having John Kelly's comments/testimony is enough to indict this man:

John Kelly, the longest-serving White House chief of staff for Donald Trump, offered his harshest criticism yet of the former president in an exclusive statement to CNN.

Kelly set the record straight with on-the-record confirmation of a number of damning stories about statements Trump made behind closed doors attacking US service members and veterans, listing a number of objectionable comments Kelly witnessed Trump make firsthand.

“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.

“A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

“There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”

In the statement, Kelly is confirming, on the record, a number of details in a 2020 story in The Atlantic by editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg, including Trump turning to Kelly on Memorial Day 2017, as they stood among those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq in Section 60 at Arlington National Cemetery, and saying, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?”

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4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Right, and that form was filed July 31, 2023, giving Trump 15 days.  That's the first accurate story I've seen.

Most say it was due when they filed suit and it was not.  But by then, mostly grownups were in charge of the suit, not Habba dabba do.  It may well have been intentional at that point.

What's the game plan behind intentionally lowering your chances of winning?  Does he think that if he loses this case, the other cases will go away?

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2 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

They likely did this on purpose to either delay or use it for an appeal later.

 

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She went into Best Buy, bought the first gaming laptop she saw, because she wanted to play this

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8 hours ago, Rimbo said:

Thing is, most gaming laptops don't have great-looking displays. They tend to be lower rez (1440p for something that size) and poorer color quality, but really fast refresh rates and updates. And it turns out, those are also the cheapest LCDs.

You pay extra to get a high powered CPU, a discrete GPU, lots of storage space (games are space hungry), RAM. Everything else, you can cheap out on. So gaming stuff tends to be more expensive than budget, but still much cheaper than the high end good stuff.

For lawyering, you don't need more than a budget computer. You aren't rendering 3D, you aren't doing digital creation, you aren't doing development.

The only reason you pay more is to get that high end experience... the nice display, the quiet laptop, snappy UI response times, long battery life... only one of which you'd get from a ROG/Alienware etc.

In short, the probability she's using that laptop for its intended purpose -- games -- is basically 1, minus maybe a few ten thousandths.

She needs it to activate her Lovesense Lush when somebody tips 50 tokens on chaturbate.

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What's the game plan behind intentionally lowering your chances of winning?  Does he think that if he loses this case, the other cases will go away?

Well, I don't know.  But, Trump doesn't have a lot of fans in NY County, as he'll tell you whenever he gets the chance.  And some of the defenses they've raised are pretty technical, and, it's actually easier to win an appeal of a bench verdict than a jury verdict.  So, it is possible they thought he'd fare better without.

Also possible they thought they could goad Engoron into making a substantial error that would get reversed.  He obviously doesn't suffer their foolishness much, but hasn't made m/any errors, judging by the appellate history of the case already.

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Is that a Leisure Suit Larry chick?

You are thinking of Lana Luscious, from Leisure Suit Larry 5, who was Miss Wet T-Shirt of Atlantic City, and ironically enough, she was in Tramp's Casino.

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6 hours ago, coachherman'sgrill said:

You were spot on! What a shit show

https://kotaku.com/donald-trump-new-york-fraud-trial-asus-rog-stix-habba-1850892471

Lol.

”Habba did not immediately respond to a request for comment about what the exact model of the laptop was, how often she games on it, or if Trump has ever watched her play on it.”

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8 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, I don't know.  But, Trump doesn't have a lot of fans in NY County, as he'll tell you whenever he gets the chance.  And some of the defenses they've raised are pretty technical, and, it's actually easier to appeal a bench verdict than a jury verdict.  So, it is possible they thought he'd fare better without.

I dunno either, but my biggest fear is there would never be a jury that did not have at least one member who refused to convict his sorry ass.  Because, you know, MAGA!!!

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I dunno either, but my biggest fear is there would never be a jury that did not have at least one member who refused to convict his sorry ass.  Because, you know, MAGA!!!

Civil juries don't have to be unanimous.  In NY Supreme Court, where this is, there are only six and the verdict must be 5/6.

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I can see not wanting a jury for a fraud case like this if you aren't Trump.  Your defense, whether it's a good one, relies on some nuance in valuation of high dollar property.   But since it's Trump, the defense banks on (no pun intended), to a degree, the fact that you're Trump, and you're hoping there's a juror (or two apparently) who think you can do no wrong.  One hundred percent on him and his attorneys to request a jury, as is their right, once the AG requested a bench trial.  His lawyer's current CYA tour in which she claims she could not request a jury due to the statute under which the suit was filed seems dubious in light of the NY state constitution and that other constitution.  But you know how they feel about constitutions. 

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8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Civil juries don't have to be unanimous.  In NY Supreme Court, where this is, there are only six and the verdict must be 5/6.

Do they also follow "preponderance/51%" or is it still "beyond a reasonable doubt/97-98%" 

I remember in 1L Torts, we had this statistician lawyer dude come guest lecture about what "reasonable doubt" really meant.  He had done exhaustive studies (don't remember the methodology) about what "beyond a reasonable doubt" really meant quantitatively.  Like, yes there's a 0.01% chance my client was abducted by an alien who then committed the crime and returned to his home planet.  And then there's a 5% chance that the witnesses and DNA and video are wrong.  Somewhere in the middle, at about 97-98% clarity, the vast majority of humans feel comfortable and confident with ascertaining that another human being deserves to have their freedom taken away for a time as punishment.  Or in this case, personal assets taken away in the form of a civil verdict.  And I think of what we just know about Trump all these years.  I've personally known and done business with New York real estate institutional investors and family offices that have explained long before he ran for office that he is completely and totally full of shit.  But does that make me 97-98% certain he's guilty of financial crimes?  Nope.  Am I 51% sure?  Absolutely.  The fact that he's gotten away with all this crap for so long would give me pause as a juror or even a judge.  I couldn't help but feel some level of, "Why does this fall to me?  If he was so in the wrong, shouldn't somebody else have gotten it right by now...in the last 50 fucking years?"  

We know he's lied about his finances.  Even if I haven't see the books, the glaring omissions and differences between him and every single other billionaire on our planet are so fucking obvious---it's almost sad.  But the head scratcher is jurors and judges alike in the other cases are reasonable to have self-doubt, "Why now?  Why this?  If he was so rotten and corrupt, why didn't anybody catch him in his bullshit on January 6th, or before his election, or in the 1980's, or the 1970's?  Why me?  Why here?"  The strongest case against him, by far, is the stolen classified documents.  But that'll be the hardest one to get a conviction on because of the venue and the need for overwhelming consensus.  Even if you love Trump but see what he did, you're only human to not want to be a party to the jury that broadcasts to the world, "Partisanship aside, we would like to announce to the People of Earth that we had a Head of State who trafficked in national secrets, nuclear intel, Iranian invasion plans, and intel community tradecraft."  Even I, as a massive detractor of his, would have a hard time living with that.  

Point of the story---the best way out of all of this is to grind him down on all four trials.  Make them all as miserable and as time-consuming as possible, even if no verdict goes our way.  Keep him out on the grift trail.  Making speeches, shaking his tin cup, being shunned by his family, rallies, depositions, etc., etc., etc.  Keep him exhausted, running a 90-hour week of travel and pain and begging.  Run him into the fucking ground.  Keep him on the ropes and he will expire soon enough.  If not, get the catering info.

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10 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Why do we care that she brought a gaming laptop?

 

10 hours ago, Slacks said:

This. My most powerful computer is my gaming laptop. 

Y’all right it don’t and I can’t answer for everyone but if one wore a tux to court b/c it’s your nicest suit, it’d look out of place.

It don’t make a shit but does reinforce the fact his lawyers are out of their league and that trump just doesn't belong amongst the elite (in business, society, intelligence, list goes on and on).

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Arnold Schwarzenegger has some exercise advice for former President Trump: Do some laps around a jail cell.

“If he would ask me what should you do for fitness, I would just say, ‘Run around your cell three times. You’re going to be in great shape,’” Schwarzenegger quipped during a Monday appearance on ABC’s “Jimmy Kimmel Live!”

The dig from California’s former GOP governor — a reference to the 91 criminal charges that Trump’s facing in his multiple indictments — came after Kimmel asked Schwarzenegger about the 45th president’s arrest records. When he turned himself in at Georgia’s Fulton County jail in August over charges related to the 2020 election, Trump’s weight was recorded at 215 pounds.

“Do you think it is possible that he weighs 215 pounds?” Kimmel asked the former bodybuilder, who served on the President’s Council on Physical Fitness and Sports in the 1990s.

“Yeah, as much as it is possible that there is no climate change. As much as is possible that we don’t need to really reduce pollution,” Schwarzenegger said to laughs from the audience.

 

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3 hours ago, dcbc said:

I can see not wanting a jury for a fraud case like this if you aren't Trump.  Your defense, whether it's a good one, relies on some nuance in valuation of high dollar property.   But since it's Trump, the defense banks on (no pun intended), to a degree, the fact that you're Trump, and you're hoping there's a juror (or two apparently) who think you can do no wrong.  One hundred percent on him and his attorneys to request a jury, as is their right, once the AG requested a bench trial.  His lawyer's current CYA tour in which she claims she could not request a jury due to the statute under which the suit was filed seems dubious in light of the NY state constitution and that other constitution.  But you know how they feel about constitutions. 


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There were plenty of strategic reasons to waive a jury. At my firm every petition includes a jury demand. You can always waive it later. The strategy here was to waive a jury then cry about how unfair it is that they didn't get a jury. The paper trail showing a clear waiver is meaningless to the people who are the target of this strategy. 

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3 hours ago, Eastwood said:

I took the bar exam on a gaming laptop because I knew it had the power to handle the exam software, even if the software was very poorly optimized. You think I’m going to go into the most important test of my life with a Chromebook?

I took the bar exam with a bluebook and no. 2 pencil.

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There were plenty of strategic reasons to waive a jury. At my firm every petition includes a jury demand. You can always waive it later. The strategy here was to waive a jury then cry about how unfair it is that they didn't get a jury. The paper trail showing a clear waiver is meaningless to the people who are the target of this strategy. 

If their plan was to appeal based on ineffective assistance, they are toast.

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13 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Why do we care that she brought a gaming laptop?

Maybe if she didn't spend so much time playing World of Warcraft online she wouldn't have forgotten to check the box to request a jury trial.

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I can't decide if I want the judge to issue a gag order or not.  I love the idea of Trump feeling unfettered and just lashing out randomly.  Then again, he'll ignore any gag order, so we'll still get the same insane tweets but the judge might actually hold him in contempt.  

So, I guess gag order?

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