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[Biff Tannen 45478]

4 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

For which trial?

[The Dog 43771]

another $10k fine for Trump.

[TexEx15 17444]

Just now, Biff Tannen said:

For which trial?

Appears to be related just to his comments this morning. Judge fined him $10K.

 

[4th&Five 41457]

Judge fines Trump $10,000 for violating gag order

From CNN's Jeremy Herb and Lauren del Valle

Donald Trump has been fined $10,000 by a New York judge after appearing to reference a court clerk, in violation of a gag order.

"As the trier of fact, I find that the witness is not credible," Judge Arthur Engoron said after hearing from the former president under oath.

Engoron held a surprise hearing over comments Trump made outside the courtroom earlier Wednesday that could have been referring to a court clerk and therefore violating a gag order.

"I’m going to hold a hearing right now about that," the judge said.

Engoron asked Trump who he was referring to when he talked about the "partisan person" next to the judge.

"You and Cohen," Trump responded, referring to his former attorney and fixer Michael Cohen, who has been testifying Wednesday.

"Are you sure you didn’t meant the person on the other side?" Engoron asked, referring to his clerk.

"Yes I’m sure," Trump responded.

Engoron excused Trump after attorneys from both sides declined to ask him any questions. "The witness is excused," Engoron said.

"Thank you your honor," Trump responded as he returned to his seat at the defense table.

[Pato del Muerto 52322]

Why bother getting him up there to ask him, if you won’t believe him?

[Biff Tannen 45478]

6 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

"As the trier of fact, I find that the witness is not credible," Judge Arthur Engoron said after hearing from the former president under oath.

lulz.  I hope every judge uses this exact line going forward whenever he is on the stand for anything.

[The Dog 43771]

 

[kevwun 15595]

I think the 3rd time is going to get him sent to jail.  This Judge doesn't fuck around.

[Native Horn 3484]

16 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I think the 3rd time is going to get him sent to jail.  This Judge doesn't fuck around.

You say that as a certainty.  Surely he will shut his yapper and commit no further violations of the gag order.  He's smart like that.

Also.........🤪 

[Satchel 6908]

All the judge should do in put him in a secure cell overnight and allow a couple of cockroaches to crawl across his feet. Problem solved.

[TwiceHorn 31184]

28 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why bother getting him up there to ask him, if you won’t believe him?

I think you have to take evidence and argument to give a nod to due process. 

The risk here for the judge is it looks like personal pique. 

[RomaVicta 29756]

Bet the Secret Service never thought they'd have to come up with a protocol for a president to be in a jail cell.

I guess they'd be posted just outside the cell. 

Let's find out!

[GenXer 2776]

36 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

"As the trier of fact, I find that the witness is not credible," Judge Arthur Engoron said after hearing from the former president under oath.

 

30 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

lulz.  I hope every judge uses this exact line going forward whenever he is on the stand for anything.

This phrase has legs

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

33 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why bother getting him up there to ask him, if you won’t believe him?

Perhaps a futile effort at deterrence 

[Neonmoon 38127]

26 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I think the 3rd time is going to get him sent to jail.  This Judge doesn't fuck around.

Lol. He will fine him 20K

This judge is not putting Trump in jail 

[Slacks 6791]

5 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/27-insane-things-trump-said-he-will-do-in-a-2nd-term

 

Or if you dont want to read an article, here's a video:
 

 

I do not confuse him saying he's going to do things with him actually doing things. Historically, he does a lot of check writing, but not a lot of check cashing.

[SydneyCarton 47809]

1 minute ago, Slacks said:

I do not confuse him saying he's going to do things with him actually doing things. Historically, he does a lot of check writing, but not a lot of check cashing.

You asked what he "wanted to do." He's telling you what he WANTS to do. Whether he accomplishes it is entirely differerent. I'm sure he wanted to make money owning a Casino too, but he manged to fuck that up. 

[jimmyjazz 45513]

39 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why bother getting him up there to ask him, if you won’t believe him?

Well, if he had said "I was talking about your clerk" then that would have been quite a bit different, no?  Trump is just stupid enough to do that.

[Slacks 6791]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

You asked what he "wanted to do." He's telling you what he WANTS to do. Whether he accomplishes it is entirely differerent. I'm sure he wanted to make money owning a Casino too, but he manged to fuck that up. 

The Casino went broke. He made money.

[Biff Tannen 45478]

4 minutes ago, Slacks said:

I do not confuse him saying he's going to do things with him actually doing things. Historically, he does a lot of check writing, but not a lot of check cashing.

While you may be correct, this is a dangerous game to play.  

Even if he doesn't give a fuck about these things personally, the people he would put into positions of power absolutely would try to do these things.

[TwiceHorn 31184]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Well, if he had said "I was talking about your clerk" then that would have been quite a bit different, no?  Trump is just stupid enough to do that.

And you kinda actually do have to hear what he says to evaluate his credibility. 

[Js1 85056]

43 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why bother getting him up there to ask him, if you won’t believe him?

Because it's fucking hilarious 

[TwiceHorn 31184]

I am not aware of his actually testifying at any trial previously. 

As noted, a key aspect of the Teflon Don strategy has been to avoid trial at all cost. 

[Slacks 6791]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

While you may be correct, this is a dangerous game to play.  

Even if he doesn't give a fuck about these things personally, the people he would put into positions of power absolutely would try to do these things.

Now this... this I can fear. Other people suck, too.

[TexasEd 8062]

37 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Bet the Secret Service never thought they'd have to come up with a protocol for a president to be in a jail cell.

I guess they'd be posted just outside the cell. 

Let's find out!

They can leave him there, he'll be as safe as Jeffery Epstein 

[locodos 5329]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why bother getting him up there to ask him, if you won’t believe him?

JJ beat me to it

Edited October 25, 2023 by locodos

[TexasEd 8062]

The judge got to call him a liar to his face.  That has some cathartic value, no?

[tx 3 putt 76159]

he'll rack up strike 3 in less than 24 hours. this man has never faced any consequences for his actions. he has zero clue

[The Dog 43771]

8 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

The judge got to call him a liar to his face.  That has some cathartic value, no?

It left a mark and Donnie is mad:

 

[TwiceHorn 31184]

3 minutes ago, The Dog said:

It left a mark and Donnie is mad:

 

Was he through testifying?  ETA:  Ohhh, dummy.  I thought he was actually taking the stand in the case itself.

Also, I see that the ACLU has entered an apperance as amicus curiae on the DC gag order appeal.  Fascists.  https://www.npr.org/2023/10/25/1208409526/trump-gag-order-first-amendment

Trump is rarely called a liar to his face other than in the political arena, much less face immediate consequences.  Arthur Engoron is a national treasure.

Edited October 25, 2023 by TwiceHorn

[Biff Tannen 45478]

5 minutes ago, The Dog said:

It left a mark and Donnie is mad:

 

[YGIFS 19449]

5 minutes ago, The Dog said:

It left a mark and Donnie is mad:

 

I call bullshit.  Even if completely unexpected, I find it absolutely impossible that Trump's "stormed" occurred at a speed that required multiple agents to have to be "chasing after him."  Those guys have honed lightning fast reactions for several years.  There is no physical universe in which they'd have to catch up to Trump.  

If the sketch artist got any of Donald "Orange Lightnin'!" Trump's jailbreak sprint, I'd pay museum-level money for the piece.  

[Js1 85056]

14 minutes ago, The Dog said:

It left a mark and Donnie is mad:

 

[Beau Vine 53965]

25 minutes ago, The Dog said:

It left a mark and Donnie is mad:

 

[Rimbo 25752]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Lol. He will fine him 20K

This judge is not putting Trump in jail 

[Underdog 28437]

Walked out of that courtroom like he was walking out of an interview with Granny Stahl. 

[NAVY 6738]

Oh no 

[Radical Larry 28523]

Secret service chased after him with tears in their eyes.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13537]

Looks like it's harness and leash time.

[Biff Tannen 45478]

1 minute ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Looks like it's harness and leash time.

[YGIFS 19449]

Phillip the Hyper Hypo=Donald the Hyper Hippo 

Edited October 25, 2023 by YGIFS

[Js1 85056]

Secret Service Agent: should we go after him?

Melania from the back of the court room:

[linux 1655]

5000 * 2^33 is 42 trillion dollars guys

We are one month away from Trump ending the  federal debt with a single check.

[The Dog 43771]

 

[Chewbacca 7727]

Just now, The Dog said:

 

Put that on the list of things that will never happen.  Jenna ain't giving that money up.

[tx 3 putt 76159]

39 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

[YGIFS 19449]

Kutti's knowledge of our financial and tax systems is precisely what I've come to expect from MAGA "buncha freeloaders in this country, wanting handouts" Nation.  

You can't just unethically fundraise $231,000.  Not use it for the stated purpose.  Then transfer it, tax-free to another person for yet another unstated purpose.  You can gift somebody $231k for medical expense reimbursement (no, not elective breast augmentation Boebert!) or certified educational expenses (no, not Trump University you fucking morons).  But you can't just say, I need that $231k for my lawyerin' shit 'cause I tried to overturn the Republic.  But that's how these people think.  None of it's a surprise anymore.  

Donald obviously has some assets.  Watching his children and Melania fight over them after he's dead is going to be the greatest reality TV show of all time.

[miguelito 11204]

18 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Donald obviously has some assets.  Watching his children and Melania fight over them after he's dead is going to be the greatest reality TV show of all time.

It won't be the first time Melania says, "that's it?"

[The Dog 43771]

Jack has re-entered the chat.

[Brandywine 1311]

God he’s such a pathetic human. And I’m not sure he’s human.