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4 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

or even the ones who might be young and on the journey to snapping out of it.

Yep.  Hell, I went through a brief libertarian-ish phase (fuck you, I also wore parachute pants back in the day, bad decisions that are absolutely age-appropriate are kinda my thing.....shit, wait, does that mean I'm about to dump my wife for a bimbo and start driving a Vette?  I fucking hate Corvettes).

It's just another completely deranged and unrealistic worldview that doesn't account for human nature at all, and presumes we'd have all the prosperity, stability, and safety that we presently have.....magically, I guess, because they sure as hell wouldn't have come along in LibertarianStan.

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1 hour ago, Foosters said:

I had a libertarian classmate in law school who argued (in class) that fire departments and all other public agencies should be subscription based as all taxation is theft. Looked him up the other day and he's assistant general counsel for the Texas Public Finance Authority where his 6 figure salary is covered by taxpayers.

To be fair, if you were to write down all the stupid things I believed in graduate school and compressed it down, it would overflow Surly's database.

People CAN change their beliefs, if they want to.

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2 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

To be fair, if you were to write down all the stupid things I believed in graduate school and compressed it down, it would overflow Surly's database.

People CAN change their beliefs, if they want to.

1) I believed that tall hot Norwegian chick was actually into me......

2) back to the tall hot Norwegian chick thing.....

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Yep.  Hell, I went through a brief libertarian-ish phase (fuck you, I also wore parachute pants back in the day, bad decisions that are absolutely age-appropriate are kinda my thing.....shit, wait, does that mean I'm about to dump my wife for a bimbo and start driving a Vette?  I fucking hate Corvettes).

It's just another completely deranged and unrealistic worldview that doesn't account for human nature at all, and presumes we'd have all the prosperity, stability, and safety that we presently have.....magically, I guess, because they sure as hell wouldn't have come along in LibertarianStan.

I kind of figured you as and IROC guy.  

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1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

And the delusional idiots are actually the benign libertarians, or even the ones who might be young and on the journey to snapping out of it. 

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Yep.  Hell, I went through a brief libertarian-ish phase

52 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

To be fair, if you were to write down all the stupid things I believed in graduate school and compressed it down, it would overflow Surly's database.

People CAN change their beliefs, if they want to.

A lot of people went through a libertarian phase (especially here in Austin, which was kind of ground-zero for it in Texas), and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of former Republicans went through such a phase after they bailed on the GOP

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29 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

The last time I ventured to the scat site before it shut down I reviewed some of my posts from 15 years ago.... I'm surprised I had any friends then. 

I can't even say I'm real comfortable with the gibberish I posted yesterday. 

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Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Well, if it wasn't clear to me before, I certainly believe Counting Crows is just about the dorkiest band ever.

(In contention:  Gin Blossoms)

Did you know that beating up a fan of the Counting Crows or Gin Blossoms is treated by the police in the same manner as if you'd beat up a human being?

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On a more substantive note, of the recent flurry of motions Trump filed in DC, one of the more futile was to strike the allegations in the indictment relating to the events of January 6.  Chutkan poured that one out in three pages.  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/158/united-states-v-trump/

As her opinion and order make clear, the standard for striking such material from an indictment is rigorous, and Trump came nowhere close to meeting it.

Of possibly more interest is how the government responded to the motion, which is probably said better here than I can. https://www.npr.org/2023/11/17/1213480816/trump-special-counsel-case-jan-6  Good analysis that the government is prepared to nail his ass to the wall on every bit of this.

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17 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Well, if it wasn't clear to me before, I certainly believe Counting Crows is just about the dorkiest band ever.

(In contention:  Gin Blossoms)

Duritz banged more top-shelf ass than anyone this side of Derek Jeter, so I'm not going to call them dorky.

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1 hour ago, Ten Bears said:

So you're saying its the Cadillac of motions?

Technically speaking, it was the Cadillac of responses.  Trump's motion, the government's response.

But they were quite adamant that they would prove "knowing lies" about the election and an intent to provoke the crowd to march on the Capitol and disrupt the electoral count.  That kind of thing tends not to be posturing:  they set out what they think they can really prove.

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