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[dcbc 14404]

14 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Pisses me off so much.  Alex Jones deserves hell, but b/c the American justice system seems to lack teeth for the rich, he's, literally, living a life of luxury partially fueled by the blood of those kids.  

I can't believe that cunt can go in public w/out someone braining him. 

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/sandy-hook-families-vote-to-liquidate-alex-jones-bankrupt-estate

[dcbc 14404]

12 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Are they even keeping pace with the interest?

Roughly $90k per day and counting.

[Neonmoon 38127]

Sell prayers for Donald Trump. 
 

the perfect grift

[YGIFS 19449]

9 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

 

The most predictable human who has ever existed.

I can’t find the rest of that interview for free.  What the fuck was he talking about?  I half expected him and Laura to touch rings and say “In form of Navalny!  Shithead twins activate!”  

[Underdog 28445]

25 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Sell prayers for Donald Trump. 
 

the perfect grift

 

[chainsaw 9837]

27 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Sell prayers for Donald Trump. 
 

the perfect grift

[Horn Dog 9671]

If any of you fuckers want to set up a grift fund to “Support Donald Trump with his War on Woke”,  I will legally change my dog’s name to ‘Donald Trump’ and my neighbors dog’s name to ‘Woke’, and do a daily stream of their barking matches for 20% proceeds. 

[Dnaguy 11769]

34 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Sell prayers for Donald Trump. 
 

the perfect grift

Hell yeah. 
 

Bring back plenary indulgences… but then take it for a 21st century crowd funding / MLM / securities angle.

Can you imagine?

We could create a Trump plenary indulgence security backed by the fact that his base will continuously donate $5 every indictment. Then we take that and craft a very nice MLM business in which we have folks selling the securities to the same rubes!

Holy shit!

ANNNNNNdDDdDdD then we turn it around and start the same grift with

Penalry Indulgences to dumb liberals 

A harder grift, yes.

But I bet there’s blood in the turnip.

Enough that when the first grift is starting to wane, we can supplement the cash flow.

[Biff Tannen 45491]

10 hours ago, TeeDubya said:

Why did the Petes always look so sweaty?

[Beantown Express 2.0 6554]

57 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Sell prayers for Donald Trump. 
 

the perfect grift

You all are crazy to think those dumb fuckers would spend money on prayers for Donald Trump.  Now if you did thoughts and prayers, then they would line up around the block to give you their money like they do at the Golden Corral buffet.  

[Longhorn_Fan68 33834]

2 hours ago, Horn Dog said:

If any of you fuckers want to set up a grift fund to “Support Donald Trump with his War on Woke”,  I will legally change my dog’s name to ‘Donald Trump’ and my neighbors dog’s name to ‘Woke’, and do a daily stream of their barking matches for 20% proceeds. 

I'm pretty certain you posted this as a joke, but this is a 100% monetizable idea.

[Gatorubet 30083]

12 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I'm pretty certain you posted this as a joke, but this is a 100% monetizable idea.

Just have the pitch sloot be some babe in a confederate flag bikini and we’re more than halfway there.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33834]

12 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Just have the pitch sloot be some babe in a confederate flag bikini and we’re more than halfway there.

with a SEC-ede cowboy hat. *chef's kiss*

[jimmyjazz 45546]

14 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Just have the pitch sloot be some babe in a confederate flag bikini and we’re more than halfway there.

Here you go (spoilered for work):

Spoiler

 

[GenXer 2776]

4 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Sell prayers for Donald Trump. 
 

the perfect grift

 

 

[Neonmoon 38127]

3 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

Hell yeah. 
 

Bring back plenary indulgences… but then take it for a 21st century crowd funding / MLM / securities angle.

Can you imagine?

We could create a Trump plenary indulgence security backed by the fact that his base will continuously donate $5 every indictment. Then we take that and craft a very nice MLM business in which we have folks selling the securities to the same rubes!

Holy shit!

ANNNNNNdDDdDdD then we turn it around and start the same grift with

Penalry Indulgences to dumb liberals 

A harder grift, yes.

But I bet there’s blood in the turnip.

Enough that when the first grift is starting to wane, we can supplement the cash flow.

This isn’t complicated. 

You set up a website and say for every dollar donated you send one prayer 

Even better if you start it as a chain email. 

10 dollars for prayers for Donald Trump. Donate and send to 15 people or God will ignore your prayers for a week

Profit 

[BamaATL 16592]

27 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Here you go (spoilered for work):

  Reveal hidden contents

 

I knew a guy in school that was going on a first date with a lady back in his home (small) town Alabama while on break.  He picked her up for the date and she was adorned in a confederate mini skirt.  He had planned on going to a nice dinner, etc.  Instead, he went to Blockbuster, rented Amistad and they watched that, after viewing he took her home.  According to him, she had no clue as to why things had gone that way.  

(I still think he hit it).  

[Underdog 28445]

37 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Here you go (spoilered for work):

  Hide contents

 

Sis?

[Brisketexan 104558]

9 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

I knew a guy in school that was going on a first date with a lady back in his home (small) town Alabama while on break.  He picked her up for the date and she was adorned in a confederate mini skirt.  He had planned on going to a nice dinner, etc.  Instead, he went to Blockbuster, rented Amistad and they watched that, after viewing he took her home.  According to him, she had no clue as to why things had gone that way.  

(I still think he hit it).  

Bolded the important part.

[texasdago 7552]

40 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

This isn’t complicated. 

You set up a website and say for every dollar donated you send one prayer 

Even better if you start it as a chain email. 

10 dollars for prayers for Donald Trump. Donate and send to 15 people or God will ignore your prayers for a week

Profit 

I got you, fam...

By to be clear, the real money-maker would be "Donate to name a star after Donald Trump" like that star registry garbage.  

$1,000 name it after Donald

$500 name it after Ivanka, Don Jr, Barron or Melania

$100 name it after Eric or Lara

$9.95 Kimberly Guilfoyle

[Dnaguy 11769]

14 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

I knew a guy in school that was going on a first date with a lady back in his home (small) town Alabama while on break.  He picked her up for the date and she was adorned in a confederate mini skirt.  He had planned on going to a nice dinner, etc.  Instead, he went to Blockbuster, rented Amistad and they watched that, after viewing he took her home.  According to him, she had no clue as to why things had gone that way.  

(I still think he hit it).  

As a union man, it was his duty go after what "holds the South's two halves together."

Glad history repeated itself and the good guys triumphed once again in the battle of VDicksburg.

[Pato del Muerto 52340]

8 minutes ago, texasdago said:

I got you, fam...

 

Fart noise

[Macanudo 12925]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Here you go (spoilered for work):

  Reveal hidden contents

 

The South will not rise again.

[jimmyjazz 45546]

6 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

The South will not rise again.

Not my South, that's for sure.  At least for her.

[BamaATL 16592]

So apparently Trump wants to file a "counter judgment" with Engoron, and subsequently negotiate.  Next time I get a traffic ticket I'm just going to reply with my own counter ticket and negotiate with the court.  I bet that goes well for me.  

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11668]

i'll see your guilty, and raise you a not guilty -- sounds very michael scott.

[DigglerontheHoof 21053]

6 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

So apparently Trump wants to file a "counter judgment" with Engoron, and subsequently negotiate.  Next time I get a traffic ticket I'm just going to reply with my own counter ticket and negotiate with the court.  I bet that goes well for me.  

I'm assuming this move is worth a good 6 months of delay.  

[BamaATL 16592]

3 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I'm assuming this move is worth a good 6 months of delay.  

I'm gonna go out an limb and presume that the State of New York won't see things this way.  

[High Plains Drifter 10970]

8 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I'm assuming this move is worth a good 6 months of delay.  

 

Should be worth about 6 months in the slammer for egregious bullshit. 

 

[DDD Dad 14250]

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Here you go (spoilered for work):

  Reveal hidden contents

 

At least you spoilered it.

[Kyrie Eleison 9312]

2 hours ago, BamaATL said:

So apparently Trump wants to file a "counter judgment" with Engoron, and subsequently negotiate.  Next time I get a traffic ticket I'm just going to reply with my own counter ticket and negotiate with the court.  I bet that goes well for me.  

[YGIFS 19449]

Look your honor, what this ticket presupposes is maybe I was speeding.  But what my motion says is maybe YOU were speeding

wildcat.  Wildcat.  Wildcat.  I’m just gonna go right now.  

Edited February 21 by YGIFS

[Pato del Muerto 52340]

When you live in the world of suits and counter suits, and are an idiot with a Wharton degree, you think if there are judgements then there must be counter judgements. He’s trying to play the only game he knows how. 

Edited February 21 by Pato del Muerto

[safe sex 11678]

Well, you see, the question of whether or not you can negotiate a counter judgment has never been asked in court before so we'll need to take a few months to figure it out

[TexasEd 8064]

3 hours ago, BamaATL said:

I knew a guy in school that was going on a first date with a lady back in his home (small) town Alabama while on break.  He picked her up for the date and she was adorned in a confederate mini skirt.  He had planned on going to a nice dinner, etc.  Instead, he went to Blockbuster, rented Amistad and they watched that, after viewing he took her home.  According to him, she had no clue as to why things had gone that way.  

(I still think he hit it).  

There’s a song for everything 

 

[dcbc 14404]

3 hours ago, Macanudo said:

The South will not rise again.

 

More accurately . . . 

[Neonmoon 38127]

1 hour ago, safe sex said:

Well, you see, the question of whether or not you can negotiate a counter judgment has never been asked in court before so we'll need to take a few months to figure it out

[NAVY 6738]

1 hour ago, safe sex said:

Well, you see, the question of whether or not you can negotiate a counter judgment has never been asked in court before so we'll need to take a few months to figure it out

What about the double and later triple secret counter judgements after that? 

[Dnaguy 11769]

3 minutes ago, NAVY said:

What about the double and later triple secret counter judgements after that? 

[YGIFS 19449]

There is a little known codicil in the American constitution granting the former president and convicted felon Unlimited power in times of national crisis upon reelection.  It is time for someone to put their foot down and that foot is… Dammit, I had something for this

[Brisketexan 104558]

All I know is that when this is all said and done, and someone has to do an accounting of Dotard's remaining assets, I want to hear and see exactly this:

[YGIFS 19449]

All construction builds.  Incomplete. 

[Horn Dog 9671]

1 hour ago, safe sex said:

Well, you see, the question of whether or not you can negotiate a counter judgment has never been asked in court before so we'll need to take a few months to figure it out

Excellent point.  Have the courts ever  explored the question of the “fingers crossed” or “double dog dare” defense?  I always thought these were childhood concepts but now I am starting to think these may be legitimate legal strategies.

[YGIFS 19449]

You can’t triple stamp a double stamp; dumbass!

[Smax 3800]

23 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Just barely.

Goddammit, every day, I am more and more furious with myself for not acting on a plan to rook these fucking mouthbreathing IDIOTS.  The money is just there for the taking.  For fuck's sake, I think it's immoral of me NOT to have done so.

 

its not too late, 9 months till election to grift these morons and win or lose  plenty of time after

[Gatorubet 30083]

58 minutes ago, NAVY said:

What about the double and later triple secret counter judgements after that? 

[scottsins 1953]

Well, you see, the question of whether or not you can negotiate a counter judgment has never been asked in court before so we'll need to take a few months to figure it out

Nope. The trial court judge can just refuse to even have a hearing on the motion, if he chooses.

[TwiceHorn 31263]

4 hours ago, BamaATL said:

So apparently Trump wants to file a "counter judgment" with Engoron, and subsequently negotiate.  Next time I get a traffic ticket I'm just going to reply with my own counter ticket and negotiate with the court.  I bet that goes well for me.  

I was like wtf but now I understand the issue. 

There can be a difference between an opinion that explains the reasoning and a judgment that states the conclusion and operative terms of the judgment. Like the DC Circuit released the opinion and a judgment on immunity simultaneously as separate documents. 

Sometimes it can be hard to tell if an opinion IS the judgment or not.   The test is whether the document in question disposes of all the issues and all the parties.  This is an incredibly common controversy.  

One of the problems it causes is that you usually have 30 days from the date of the judgment, not the opinion, in which to appeal. So it can cause premature appeals or belated appeals.  Belated appeals are untimely and do not go forward. 

Engorons order left some issues open namely the precise terms of the supervision. So it is probably not a judgment.

Recognizing this, James' office filed a proposed judgment for Engoron to sign finishing everything off.  This is not uncommon, but usually the other party has the opportunity to object to the proposed judgment and propose their own. Maybe in NY practice that's called a counter judgment. In Texas and federal practice, that's a weird name. 

As scottsins points out sometimes the trial judge will give the winner the sole right to draft the judgment, at the risk of creating an an issue for appeal if they are too heavy handed.  But that is in accordance with what the judge orders and Engoron didn't order anything as far as we know James office just did this unilaterally apparently. 

The process does present something of an opportunity to negotiate, not with Engoron, but with James office over the precise terms of things like the supervision. 

The whole mess may add a few days to the time for appeal, depending on when Engoron signs a conclusive judgment. But that's more his fault for leaving matters unresolved in the opinion that we have seen than anything anyone else is doing. 

Edited February 21 by TwiceHorn

[Brisketexan 104558]

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I was like wtf but now I understand the issue. 

There can be a difference between an opinion that explains the reasoning and a judgment that states the conclusion and operative terms of the judgment. Like the DC Circuit released the opinion and a judgment on immunity simultaneously as separate documents. 

Sometimes it can be hard to tell if an opinion IS the judgment or not.   The test is whether the document in question disposes of all the issues and all the parties.  This is an incredibly common controversy.  

One of the problems it causes is that you usually have 30 days from the date of the judgment, not the opinion, in which to appeal. So it can cause premature appeals or belated appeals.  Belated appeals are untimely and do not go forward. 

Engorons order left some issues open namely the precise terms of the supervision. So it is probably not a judgment.

Recognizing this, James' office filed a proposed judgment for Engoron to sign finishing everything off.  This is not uncommon, but usually the other party has the opportunity to object to the proposed judgment and propose their own. Maybe in NY practice that's called a counter judgment. In Texas and federal practice, that's a weird name. 

The whole mess may add a few days to the time for appeal, depending on when Engoron signs a conclusive judgment. But that's more his fault for leaving matters unresolved in the opinion that we have seen than anything anyone else is doing. 

That makes sense.

To give a TLDR layperson summary: sometimes the court states the basics of how it is going to decide (an outline, if you will, saying "I intend to sign a judgment that does X, Y, and Z."  In this case, it's more than an outline, it's a full "opinion," but it still doesn't "order and decree" anything, which is what a judgment does).  The parties then submit competing proposed judgments to turn that outline into an actual formal, final judgment (which is a specialized legal document that usually has some very specific requirements).  The court then picks one of the judgments (or maybe even uses one as a baseline, and tweaks it some), and then signs it.  And it is THAT act -- signing a final judgment - that starts all of the appellate clocks running.  

[brakeman 28227]