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On 3/6/2024 at 9:21 PM, Bullneck said:

Welp, I guess it's time to dust off this classic and remind everyone who our playing field is named after:

 

This is probably what the old SWC meetings were like back in the day.

[HenryJames 65868]

3 hours ago, The Dog said:

Boo hoo!

[Gil Bang 25865]

 

[tx 3 putt 76159]

 

[TwiceHorn 31184]

25 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

I think neither E. Jean Carroll, nor the state of New York, would be particularly bothered by this outcome.

Well if they spend a lot of effort "seizing" a multi million dollar property and get 10k out of it that tends to suck. 

[Rimbo 25752]

31 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well if they spend a lot of effort "seizing" a multi million dollar property and get 10k out of it that tends to suck. 

 

[hayden_horn 11360]

6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

And that Frankoma pottery ain’t bringing the prices it once was.

 

6 hours ago, Macanudo said:

Don't you dare besmirch my Dale Earnhardt collector plate collection from the Franklin Mint.

good thing i got all these thomas kincade prints sitting around just awaiting the right moment

[The Dog 43771]

[Dnaguy 11740]

3 hours ago, tx ind said:

 

You'd fuck Trump AND Cassidy?

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20342]

Here's the most hilarious thing: Trump was gifted 500 million dollars by his dad and now, despite the fact that the dollars are inflated, he can't even come up with the money his dad gave him.

 

[tx 3 putt 76159]

 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20342]

 

 

 

 

[atomheartbevo 89362]

 

[tx 3 putt 76159]

[Rimbo 25752]

34 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

 

 

 

They're all missing the real issue here.

The #1 rule of buying someone out is they have to stay bought.

If you think the person is going to flake out or turn on you after you buy 'em? Better off spending that money elsewhere.

That's why the Saudis, Musk, etc haven't spent a dime to help him. (And Putin has his own problems.)

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

7 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

It's more that than anything else. 

If that were true, shouldn’t at least one of her questionable decisions serve to benefit the prosecution’s effort to see this trial to a speedy conclusion and not help Trump delay and muddy up the process? Just one?

[atomheartbevo 89362]

1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

They're all missing the real issue here.

The #1 rule of buying someone out is they have to stay bought.

If you think the person is going to flake out or turn on you after you buy 'em? Better off spending that money elsewhere.

That's why the Saudis, Musk, etc haven't spent a dime to help him. (And Putin has his own problems.)

Plus, while everything with Trump is transactional, it’s all on his terms - you give him money, he gives you what he wants to give you, which may not be what you want. Just ask all of the contractors who have taken him to court, the January 6 idiots who end up with jail time and felony records while he fundraisers off of them, the people who relied on his failed businesses for a paycheck,  etc.

Edited March 19 by atomheartbevo

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

Putin and MBS (and Kim) know how to manipulate Trump with flattery and feeding his massive, fragile ego. Putin wants Ukraine and he already owns Trump. If Trump is elected, he’ll cut off aid to Ukraine and hand them over to Russia. If Putin bails him out trhough some back-channel means (no doubt aided by Manafort’s connections with Russian intelligence), the payback is already baked in. Nobody is expecting Trump to pay them back in cash.

I’m not saying that Trump will get bailed out by the Saudis. But the fact that it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it won’t. It would have to be something that’s not easily traceable. And it wouldn’t be like a loan with a contract and terms for repayment. In fact they wouldn’t ask for repayment. They’d tell Trump how unfairly he was being treated and they just couldn’t stand seeing the injustice being done to such a great and powerful leader who did nothing wrong. 

[HenryJames 65868]

[dcbc 14388]

2 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

But the fact that it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it won’t.

Plus, if you want to leverage as much as possible out of him, you make him sweat it out a little closer to the deadline.  I don't know if the Saudis (or Trump for that matter) is as concerned with appearances of impropriety or the need for secrecy as your run-of-the-mill sociopaths might be.

[TwiceHorn 31184]

4 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

If that were true, shouldn’t at least one of her questionable decisions serve to benefit the prosecution’s effort to see this trial to a speedy conclusion and not help Trump delay and muddy up the process? Just one?

If the playing field was level, sure. But in a criminal case where the parties are roughly equally resourced, the field is tilted against the government, which has the burden of proof and a tall one at that. 

And, you can't say at this point whether this favors or disfavors Trump. She has made multiple CIPA decisions, all under seal, none of which the government has appealed, so they are presumably in the government's favor.  Let's hope she didn't fuck those up in a way that gives Trump a solid appeal. 

This latest is just stupid. For now, it's neither here nor there, pro or con. Just stupid. It may be a precursor to a giant mistake/attempt to favor Trump or it may work out in the end. 

[wildcat09 29187]

39 minutes ago, dcbc said:

Plus, if you want to leverage as much as possible out of him, you make him sweat it out a little closer to the deadline.  I don't know if the Saudis (or Trump for that matter) is as concerned with appearances of impropriety or the need for secrecy as your run-of-the-mill sociopaths might be.

They chopped up a journalist and didn’t really even try to hide it and the entire world basically ignored that, so no, they aren’t particularly concerned with appearances of impropriety.

[wildcat09 29187]

Cannon doing more Cannon shit:

 

[locodos 5329]

19 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

They chopped up a journalist and didn’t really even try to hide it and the entire world basically ignored that, so no, they aren’t particularly concerned with appearances of impropriety.

Yeah, that's not accurate.  They tried like hell to hide it, but they got caught by the ole' Apple Find My Phone Trick.  Between the phones and CCTV cams it's bad time to be a teen or a group of Boomer assassins! Am I right?

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On 2 October 2018, Jamal Khashoggi, a Saudi dissident journalist, was killed by agents of the Saudi government at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey.^[4][5] Khashoggi was ambushed and strangled by a 15-member squad of Saudi operatives.^[6][7] His body was dismembered and disposed of in some way that was never publicly revealed.^[8] The consulate had been secretly bugged by the Turkish government and Khashoggi's final moments were captured in audio recordings, transcripts of which were subsequently made public.^[9][6][10]

The New York Times reported in June 2019 that Saudi government engaged in an extensive effort to cover up the killing, including destroying evidence.^[7] By 16 October, separate investigations by Turkish officials and The New York Times had concluded that the murder was premeditated and that some members of the Saudi hit team were closely connected to Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.^[11]

Oh and don't forget these little details

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The next day, Middle East Eye reported that, according to an anonymous Turkish source, the killing took about seven minutes and forensic specialist Salah Muhammed al-Tubaigy, who had brought along a bone saw,^[86] cut Khashoggi's body into pieces, while Khashoggi was still alive, as he and his colleagues listened to music.^[87] The source further claimed that "Khashoggi was dragged from consul general Mohammad al-Otaibi's office at the Saudi consulate ... Tubaigy began to cut Khashoggi's body up on a table in the study while he was still alive," and "There was no attempt to interrogate him. They had come to kill him."^[86]

 

Edited March 19 by locodos

[Native Horn 3484]

11 hours ago, Jhawkmvp said:

Reconstruct the deconstructed burger.  

I chortled.

[BamaATL 16592]

7 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Here's the most hilarious thing: Trump was gifted 500 million dollars by his dad and now, despite the fact that the dollars are inflated, he can't even come up with the money his dad gave him.

 

Not to mention he got this about 50 years ago.  If you had 500 million and just invested and reinvested them continually in bonds by now that alone would be worth several billion.  But the business genius is 6 times bankrupt, soon to be 7, and broke as a joke.  

What it comes down to is this, his entire life is absolute wasteland, nothing but negative.  He could have saved everyone a lot of trouble and just done absolutely nothing and the world would be a better place (and so would he, not shedding any tears there).  

[tx ind 6996]

6 hours ago, Rimbo said:

They're all missing the real issue here.

The #1 rule of buying someone out is they have to stay bought.

If you think the person is going to flake out or turn on you after you buy 'em? Better off spending that money elsewhere.

That's why the Saudis, Musk, etc haven't spent a dime to help him. (And Putin has his own problems.)

Bingo, if they give him cash now, say he wins…he’ll obviously perpetuate the grift as soon as he is able and move on to another benefactor.

Also, if he doesn’t do what is asked what recourse would they have? He won’t be impeached (seen that twice now), he won’t die (we aren’t that lucky), he gets got (no one would do that, repercussions would be too immense). 
 

There’s no way to control him, everyone’s seen that already.

[SquishMitten 10395]

On 3/7/2024 at 1:52 PM, dcbc said:

But don't get me started on the Cult of Garner and his convincing lawyers to put citations in the footnotes.

That’s where you put them when you don’t want anybody to look at em. And sometimes that’s helpful. 

[The Dog 43771]

It would appear that Trump is facing those "consequences" some of y'all have been waiting for.

He had a major meltdown on Truth social last night. 

and it continues this morning:

[The Dog 43771]

MAGA dolts are now saying Trump's "8th amendment rights" are being violated (that's cruel and unusual punishment for those like me who don't remember anything from school). 

I thought he was rich you fucking goobers?

[RomaVicta 29756]

13 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Amazing doesn’t strike me as the most correct adjective 

There is apparently only one other adjective in American usage, incredible. 

My favorite use of that one is by newsmedia: incredibly believable, incredible accuracy, incredibly reliable source.

It's amazing how incredible it all is.

[Pato del Muerto 52322]

Incredibly credible

[The Dog 43771]

a little more details on the value of the plane (and Trump's true wealth relative to other billionaires). 

 

[RomaVicta 29756]

6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Plus, while everything with Trump is transactional, it’s all on his terms - you give him money, he gives you what he wants to give you, which may not be what you want. Just ask all of the contractors who have taken him to court, the January 6 idiots who end up with jail time and felony records while he fundraisers off of them, the people who relied on his failed businesses for a paycheck,  etc.

I recall that he offered one attorney to whom he owed more than a million dollars a racehorse. Trump said it was a great racehorse, so I'm sure it was.

[chainsaw 9831]

3 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I recall that he offered one attorney to whom he owed more than a million dollars a racehorse. Trump said it was a great racehorse, so I'm sure it was.

what about the limited edition Trump NFTs?

[DigglerontheHoof 21022]

15 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I recall that he offered one attorney to whom he owed more than a million dollars a racehorse. Trump said it was a great racehorse, so I'm sure it was.

The horse is likely closer to being glue than a champion. 

[tx 3 putt 76159]

It’s all crashing down …

 

[The Dog 43771]

someone was thrown under the bus:

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26232]

Local rich kid shocked by consequences*

 

 

 

 

 

*ole Donny will wriggle out of this one, nevertheless 

Edited March 19 by Bozo_Casanova

[YGIFS 19449]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

There is apparently only one other adjective in American usage, incredible. 

My favorite use of that one is by newsmedia: incredibly believable, incredible accuracy, incredibly reliable source.

It's amazing how incredible it all is.

What was that show in the 80’s like half-science, half reality show “It’s/That’s Incredible”??

[dcbc 14388]

56 minutes ago, The Dog said:

MAGA dolts are now saying Trump's "8th amendment rights" are being violated (that's cruel and unusual punishment for those like me who don't remember anything from school). 

I thought he was rich you fucking goobers?

They clearly aren't familiar with Rummel v. Estelle, 445 U.S. 263 (1980), in which the U.S. Supreme Court held that the imposition of a life sentence without parole for fraudulently obtaining an aggregate of $230 (spread across three separate offenses) under the Texas recidivism statute did not amount to cruel and unusual punishment.  If that's not C&UP, very little seems to be.

[atomheartbevo 89362]

11 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

What was that show in the 80’s like half-science, half reality show “It’s/That’s Incredible”??

The most incredible thing on That’s Incredible was John Davidson’s hair.

That and somebody thought to pair Fran Tarkenton up with Davidson and Cathy Lee Crosby.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13391]

I will be surprised that Trump doesn't find a judge somewhere that will give him a temp reprieve from posting a bond for the amount. But then again people like Trump eventually run out of options.

[Ted Lange 15991]

38 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

It’s all crashing down …

 

Ponzi scheme involving orange.

[TwiceHorn 31184]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

MAGA dolts are now saying Trump's "8th amendment rights" are being violated (that's cruel and unusual punishment for those like me who don't remember anything from school). 

I thought he was rich you fucking goobers?

It's also "excessive fines," so not quite as foolish as it initially seems.  Still foolish af, though.

[TwiceHorn 31184]

24 minutes ago, dcbc said:

They clearly aren't familiar with Rummel v. Estelle, 445 U.S. 263 (1980), in which the U.S. Supreme Court held that the imposition of a life sentence without parole for fraudulently obtaining an aggregate of $230 (spread across three separate offenses) under the Texas recidivism statute did not amount to cruel and unusual punishment.  If that's not C&UP, very little seems to be.

The excessive fines portion of the 8th actually has a bit of vitality these days in the context of civil forfeiture.

[miguelito 11205]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

There is apparently only one other adjective in American usage, incredible. 

My favorite use of that one is by newsmedia: incredibly believable, incredible accuracy, incredibly reliable source.

It's amazing how incredible it all is.

It means more than credible.

[dcbc 14388]

12 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The excessive fines portion of the 8th actually has a bit of vitality these days in the context of civil forfeiture.

It seems like, in this case, the civil penalties have a pretty straight-forward, dollar-to-dollar correlation to the conduct.  So I'd guess it would be a pretty steep hill on appeal, all else being equal.  I haven't seen too many winning appellate arguments arising out of the 8th Amendment and don't recall seeing anything on the civil forfeiture side of things (not that that means anything).

Edited March 19 by dcbc

[The Dog 43771]

6 minutes ago, dcbc said:

It seems like, in this case, the civil penalties have a pretty solid, dollar-to-dollar correlation to the conduct.  So I'd guess it would be a pretty steep hill on appeal, all else being equal.  I haven't seen too many winning appellate arguments arising out of the 8th Amendment and don't recall seeing anything on the civil forfeiture side of things (not that that means anything).

and they can use his and his lawyers' words against him (thanks again Alina!)

[The Dog 43771]

49 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

*ole Donny will wriggle out of this one, nevertheless 

Politically he'll fundraise off of this (but it will all go to legal fees). So yeah he's "getting away with it" only in the sense it fires up his crazy base. 

Legally and financially?

He's fucked.