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3 hours ago, Captainant said:

It's just fucking insane that apparently our options are either "suspend habeas corpus" or "let trump repeatedly abuse the justice system with unchecked lies". What the fucking fuck? It's like y'all have this weird blind spot that makes you think trump is always acting in good faith when he NEVER fucking has

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it is certainly a more than worrisome dilemma.  However, the easier response above is often worse for everybody.  Following the rule of law despite the public says we should ignore it just this one time is a sound way to go.

Having said that, If the election result is not attributed to democracy, but to Trump’s clear illegality, corruption and manipulation of the system, then there is a good faith argument for a different response.

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Trump selling his Vegas hotel to pay legal bills? 

https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/tourism/officials-mum-about-potential-sale-of-las-vegas-trump-hotel-3029352/

I especially like the quote from Tweedle-Dumb (Eric) in this story.

 

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Could the nongaming Trump International Hotel just off the Strip be sold to generate revenue for Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s enormous civil fraud penalties?

The people closest to the property’s ownership — Trump and business partner Phil Ruffin — aren’t saying, and lodging industry experts say they haven’t heard anything about a potential sale of the 64-story, 1,282-suite property, which opened in 2008.

Ruffin also is the owner of the Treasure Island and Circus Circus hotel-casinos.

The Associated Press in February reported that New York Attorney General Letitia James said she would attempt to seize Trump properties to pay the $454 million civil fraud penalty that, with interest, is escalating by an estimated $87,502 a day.

Trump was assessed the fine following a Feb. 16 ruling by Manhattan Supreme Court Judge Arthur Engoron. In January, a jury also ordered Trump to pay an $83.3 million judgment for defaming writer E. Jean Carroll. Trump has denied wrongdoing and vows to appeal.

Whether James, a Democrat, would attempt to seize Trump International in Las Vegas is unclear.

Clark County records show the parcel is owned by Trump Ruffin Tower I LLC.

Contacted Friday, a representative for Ruffin said he would have no comment on the matter, and Trump hotel officials did not return calls seeking comment.

Trump and Ruffin struck up a friendship when they partnered to build the tower, initially targeted as a condominium high-rise. When condo sales flagged in the run-up to the Great Recession, the Trump Organization changed strategies and brought in Hilton Grand Vacations to take some of the suites as timeshare units. Some suites also were made available as hotel rooms.

Because of the plan to develop residences, the Trump Organization opted not to put a casino in the property.

At the time, Eric Trump, a son of Donald Trump and one of the top local executives, explained the unusual strategy of having a Strip property without a casino.

“We have no problem getting a gaming license, but we wanted to do something different here,” Eric Trump said “We wanted a true luxury resort experience. It’s hard to have a high-quality product when you walk into ‘ding, ding, ding’ and there are people walking around in Hawaiian shirts with big plastic drink mugs.”

Trump and Ruffin planned building a second nearly-identical tower at the site, but those plans fell through as the recession hit.

The local Trump hotel has two restaurants and a pool deck. In addition to opting against adding a casino, developers decided to have small meeting rooms instead of a convention center.

 

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'cause the fucking guy can't get a gaming license, that's why.  And another guy who owns 'Circus-Circus' wants to buy it from this Orange Clown.  But we don't live in a simulation?  

Holy shit, I can't wait to see this negotiation.  

"We don't have people walking around in Hawaiian shirts with big plastic drink mugs, so we're doing to insist upon a premium. We'll even throw in Eric and some dessert and t-shirts for the kids." 

-Ah well, nevertheless.  

I honestly don't know what's going to be studied more for the next century---his utter and complete business idiocy or his political rise to ascension.  You could literally craft a 60-credit hour program around the two.  Never mind getting into the shit his kids have been up to.  We will not live to see it unpacked, but it will be...

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On 4/4/2024 at 5:59 PM, TwiceHorn said:

The latter is the rub. There needs to be some sort of ruling to appeal. Currently, there isn't one.

A motion in limine is usually filed on the eve of trial but there is nothing that says it has to be. They are also usually evidentiary in nature, while this one would be more to resolve something as a matter of law (PRA does not apply here). 

But I think her denial of one would give Smith the ruling he needs. 

 

I may, or may not be under the influence of herbal medication, but is there a way you could present some sort of bastardize motion to suppress/ with the thing you want to suppress the use of the improper presidential records, act defense?

Then you file a motion in limine on essentially the same subject.   It seems like she would quickly bite on denying the motion to suppress.   In Louisiana practice, a court will look at whatever counsel calls it and disregard that if need be - and look at the substance of the request and redesignate the motion to the proper procedural vehicle.   if we don’t know what the hell to call it, then file it and call it something else and let the appeals court decide what to do with it.

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37 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

'cause the fucking guy can't get a gaming license, that's why.  And another guy who owns 'Circus-Circus' wants to buy it from this Orange Clown.  But we don't live in a simulation?  

 

Ruffin (the owner of Circus Circus) is, among other things, Trump's friend of sorts.  Trump served as his best man at his wedding in 2008 (he was 72 at the time, and married a former Miss Ukraine who was 26 at the time).  He also bailed out Trump from his failed Trump University suit.  Trump owed $25 million, and Ruffin paid the tab.   The two have an intertwined past.  

Ruffin is a piece of shit.  But he's far more successful in business than Trump ever dreamed of, and isn't leveraged to the hilt.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Ruffin (the owner of Circus Circus) is, among other things, Trump's friend of sorts.  Trump served as his best man at his wedding in 2008 (he was 72 at the time, and married a former Miss Ukraine who was 26 at the time).  He also bailed out Trump from his failed Trump University suit.  Trump owed $25 million, and Ruffin paid the tab.   The two have an intertwined past.  

Ruffin is a piece of shit.  But he's far more successful in business than Trump ever dreamed of, and isn't leveraged to the hilt.

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34 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Ruffin (the owner of Circus Circus) is, among other things, Trump's friend of sorts.  Trump served as his best man at his wedding in 2008 (he was 72 at the time, and married a former Miss Ukraine who was 26 at the time).  He also bailed out Trump from his failed Trump University suit.  Trump owed $25 million, and Ruffin paid the tab.   The two have an intertwined past.  

Ruffin is a piece of shit.  But he's far more successful in business than Trump ever dreamed of, and isn't leveraged to the hilt.

 

 

Trump served as best man to his financial benefactor who married a Ukraine national beauty queen who Trump wants to let Russia stomp all over her country after he admitted to walking on in on beauty pageant dressing rooms and the owns a Circus themed casino and Trump is a literal Circus Clown.  What in the fucking fuck is happening anymore?  

Eric and Lara are basically glorified carnival barkers and Don, jr. can do enough blow in one sitting to kill a circus bear.  Guess I'm going to church tomorrow to convince myself none of this is real...

 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Guess I'm going to church tomorrow to convince myself none of this is real...

When I see people I've known all my life just nod along to this stuff, and put out their Trump flags, I can honestly say it makes me question my sanity. 

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3 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

I can't wait for him to die. 

But until then, we get to enjoy him going on truth.social and posting all of his fears for the world to see.  It’s a wonder he ever leaves his bunker Mar-a-Lago, he’s so scared.

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51 minutes ago, Red Five said:

When I see people I've known all my life just nod along to this stuff, and put out their Trump flags, I can honestly say it makes me question my sanity. 

Oh no, don't fool yourself.  We're clearly insane.  But again, to the tired trope---The Nodders.  They are the baffling ones to me.  25mm pull straight ticket.  25mm are batshit fucking morons that pull his lever.  It's the ones that we know and work with and are related to, that as you say---known most of/all our lives that for some reason still broke for this guy-TWICE-and kinda stay quiet about it now.  And you want to grab their shoulders and shake the crazy out of them because you know they're better than that.  But instead, we stay quiet and just sit and wonder, "Shit, maybe I'm the crazy one?"   

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54 minutes ago, Red Five said:

So is creating an army of mentally challenged goons and sending them to the capitol to "fight like hell", and then watching them fight their way into the capitol on tv for three hours while refusing to do anything to stop it. 

But that apparently isn't even a crime. Crazy pills. 

With that said, it’s beautiful that he asked those people to show up, they do, they start shit, they get prison sentences, felony records, lose businesses, jobs, family members, and Trump rakes in hundreds of millions in donations but won’t donate any of it to pay their legal bills, and he won’t even do a massive fundraiser.

He just let’s them sit in prison or rack up debts from legal bills and lost jobs while he rides off with all of the money.

As much as I hate Trump, I love that he completely fucked over his MAGA followers in the wake of January 6th.

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Yeah, it is kind of his master-stroke to use them to make money with the promise that he'll use that money to help them and then not use that money for them but to help himself defend himself for the very criminal allegations he's under, which put them behind bars in the first place.  You gotta kinda tip your (red) cap to the 'inception' level layer-ness of it all.  Many, if not most, of them will have tainted records and be unable to get gainful employment or loans for decades while he's literally on a golf course sand trap earning 20%. 

I mean, he's totally fucked financially in the long run and we will dead soon.  But these people are truly proper fucked.  Their grandkids will feel the strain of this, it's that bad in many instances.  They should have asked for bullets to the head that day because their suffering will echo for generations.   

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just stopping by to add that Gary Gulman is indeed hilarious, and his bit about abbreviating the States to 2 letters each is fantastic.

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He does a very entertaining interview (don't know the radio show, but you can find it easily I'm sure) about the background of the bit.  He told me how he sat on the whole bit, almost verbatim as it was delivered on latenight for several years.  It was so quirky that he didn't think it would work...even in a nightclub of drunks.  And this is when all these niche documentaries start coming out on streaming.  And one was literally about the history of some Font so he thought he could feign the documentary angle of the process of the abbreviations.  And then he's coming out of his mental health issues (or least, making big improvements).  And to work it out, he basically felt "If ever I needed to do this weird bit, now is the time."   Not my place to say, but I think it was a sort of internal challenge to himself to let his weirdness out as he was healing from issues and on meds 'n shit.  

But the true beauty of it, which explains Gary's improvement to a more content place in life.  Is it starts out as an absolutely absurd premise as it did when he wrote it, something as twisted that only he could come up with in a dark place.  Then it gets silly and playful as Gary is oftentimes with the Dottie bits.  But when the pretend abbreviators get the contractor and he goes on the smart string of jokes about the different words...that's when you can see he's back to his sharp, confident self.  It's really cool to watch when you know his backstory.  Watch "The Great Depresh" whenever you can. It's half documentary and half standup.  And we laughed about how mental health and football concussion protocol were basically one in the same when we grew up.  But again, it's so layered and clever that it's not belly-aching funny...but it's so fucking funny to me while being so sad and a reminder of what we go through as people.  But you can literally feel in your bones how cathartic the release is for him and we kinda feel the same way watching/listening.  

So to tie it back to the thread...i picture Donald Trump watching the bit and thinking, "Well, in my first 100 days back in office ...I'll fire that Postal committee, bang Dotty, get an omelette with extra ketchup, and change UT back to Uta to fuck with Mitt Romney."  

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It's a sky comma trying to bang a chick on her period.  

And Eric is semi-retarded.  And Donald will die from colon cancer.  So this actually all really tracks if you think about.  

Are you saying I WON'T be able to be do it?  Because I just did!  

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Posted
4 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

if the latter, then people opposing that election would be the insurrectionists.

Sadly, this is a very real possibility. The people opposing fascism will be cast in the same light as butt hurt Rs from 2020. Upside down world. 

Posted
9 hours ago, Macanudo said:

If I plan a robbery and send my minions to do it, am I guilty of nothing when they get caught?

 

You're guilty of Conspiracy. Although we all saw how it played out, it's hard to prove he "planned" anything.

9 hours ago, Macanudo said:

If I plan a robbery and send my minions to do it, am I guilty of nothing when they get caught?

 

You're guilty of Conspiracy. Although we all saw how it played out, it's hard to prove he "planned" anything.

Posted
15 minutes ago, safe sex said:

I'm a firm believer in and supporter of semicolon supremacy

I demonstrated my supremacy in South Austin's mom's colon last night.

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1 hour ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

It's literally my favorite punctuation mark; I didn't know it was a problem ?

Semicologuard will detect early onset. 

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I may, or may not be under the influence of herbal medication, but is there a way you could present some sort of bastardize motion to suppress/ with the thing you want to suppress the use of the improper presidential records, act defense?
Then you file a motion in limine on essentially the same subject.   It seems like she would quickly bite on denying the motion to suppress.   In Louisiana practice, a court will look at whatever counsel calls it and disregard that if need be - and look at the substance of the request and redesignate the motion to the proper procedural vehicle.   if we don’t know what the hell to call it, then file it and call it something else and let the appeals court decide what to do with it.

In Texas criminal trials, we often file what our judges call “Motions to Exclude disguised as Motions in Limine”.
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When I see people I've known all my life just nod along to this stuff, and put out their Trump flags, I can honestly say it makes me question my sanity. 

Question theirs.
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9 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

I demonstrated my supremacy in South Austin's mom's colon last night.

That’s usually hard to do with a semi.

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Fun story about me and semicolons. When I was in high school writing essays, I'd get these comments from teachers like "great point say more." I was confused because I thought usually my point was self-evident and did not require elaboration. 

Later on bearing this in mind, I apparently started crafting dense, complex sentences to pack in more of the requested information. 

Finally, in my last year of law school in an advanced writing class, Terri LeClercq, truly one of the Texas Law greats, pointed out my complex sentences and suggested that I retreat to very simple sentences and then perhaps combine them with semi colons to increase readability and comprehension and avoid the see spot run problem.   Still use to this day. 

This is mostly a tribute to Dr. LeClercq. 

https://cla.utexas.edu/english/news/alumna-terri-leclercq-fights-uphill-battle-to-preserve-prisoners-rights

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Pet peeve: please don’t use semicolons simply to connect 2 independent clauses. Do you think your reader’ brains really process it any differently than a period? Save them for clauses that need a conjunctive adverb to facilitate transition. 

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12 hours ago, safe sex said:

She makes sentences glide together like two tongues; no other punctuation can do that

Does this mean the semi-colon is the lube of the grammar world?

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1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Pet peeve: please don’t use semicolons simply to connect 2 independent clauses. Do you think your reader’ brains really process it any differently than a period? Save them for clauses that need a conjunctive adverb to facilitate transition. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Fun story about me and semicolons. When I was in high school writing essays, I'd get these comments from teachers like "great point say more." I was confused because I thought usually my point was self-evident and did not require elaboration. 

Later on bearing this in mind, I apparently started crafting dense, complex sentences to pack in more of the requested information. 

Finally, in my last year of law school in an advanced writing class, Terri LeClercq, truly one of the Texas Law greats, pointed out my complex sentences and suggested that I retreat to very simple sentences and then perhaps combine them with semi colons to increase readability and comprehension and avoid the see spot run problem.   Still use to this day. 

This is mostly a tribute to Dr. LeClercq. 

https://cla.utexas.edu/english/news/alumna-terri-leclercq-fights-uphill-battle-to-preserve-prisoners-rights

Kept expecting to see a semicolon in your post; am upset I did not. 

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4 hours ago, DaysOff said:


I'll never understand why Charlie Manson spent life in prison. He never lifted a finger.

Maybe the part where he planned it, picked the target, picked the time, provided the weapons and transportation to the home played some minor part in that. 

There was also that thing instead of telling his followers to “be there, it will be wild”, he said, “go kill these people”.

Most states follow the felony murder doctrine.  Each state can adopt its own flavor.  Which means you can be convicted of first-degree murder in some states, and avoid a murder conviction entirely in other states for the same conduct.  It is almost like the actual state laws play a part in the criminal trial. 

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Posted
57 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said:

I forgot what this thread was about.....originally.

Looks like you’re trying to make it be about ellipses 

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5 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Fun story about me and semicolons. When I was in high school writing essays, I'd get these comments from teachers like "great point say more." I was confused because I thought usually my point was self-evident and did not require elaboration. 

Later on bearing this in mind, I apparently started crafting dense, complex sentences to pack in more of the requested information. 

Finally, in my last year of law school in an advanced writing class, Terri LeClercq, truly one of the Texas Law greats, pointed out my complex sentences and suggested that I retreat to very simple sentences and then perhaps combine them with semi colons to increase readability and comprehension and avoid the see spot run problem.   Still use to this day. 

This is mostly a tribute to Dr. LeClercq. 

https://cla.utexas.edu/english/news/alumna-terri-leclercq-fights-uphill-battle-to-preserve-prisoners-rights

 

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, NAVY said:

Thread grammar boner has exceeded four hours. Time for medical help mofos 

If you experience a semi-erection in your colon for more than four hours, consult your doctor.  Brought to you by Via;Lis

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