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1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Lol, right. The audio of his “grab ‘em by the pussy” comment didn’t do it. Video of him shooting someone on Fifth Ave wouldn’t do it. His base is bereft of standards, values, or fixed principles of any kind. No decent person supports Trump.

Its sad but true. It also makes them totally predictable. There is no bottom. Nothing that will change their minds. 

I left out the sarcasm punctuation.

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1 minute ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

making comments to a prospective juror that his attorneys are challenging. Nothing happens. News at 11. 

 

 

 

what happened is the challenge by his lawyers was denied.

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14 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

😂😂😂

 

Isn’t this like an automatic contempt of court or something? The juror has to be excused now right? I mean the juror may hold a grudge against a defendant that confronts a juror.

This seems really big. Am I missing something?

I did serve on a jury a couple decades ago on a trial for two counts of aggravated assault. That’s the extent of my legal and courtroom experience.

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8 minutes ago, The Dog said:

what happened is the challenge by his lawyers was denied.

The challenge was for cause, ie posting a “honking cheer video” the night of the election. Near as I can determine, that’s a video of cars honking.

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1 minute ago, Willfully Horn said:

The challenge was for cause, ie posting a “honking cheer video” the night of the election. Near as I can determine, that’s a video of cars honking.

yes.

 

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35 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

#guilty

 

 

Objection.  The witness is unqualified to characterize what constitutes a "legal expense."  The evidence before the court conclusively demonstrates that he never once has paid a legal bill.

 

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19 minutes ago, GenXer said:

Isn’t this like an automatic contempt of court or something? The juror has to be excused now right? I mean the juror may hold a grudge against a defendant that confronts a juror.

This seems really big. Am I missing something?

I did serve on a jury a couple decades ago on a trial for two counts of aggravated assault. That’s the extent of my legal and courtroom experience.

It's highly unusual. Most defendants are not stupid enough to make antagonizing comments about or towards a potential juror. 

Lawyers actually spend some time coaching demeanor during a trial, but Trump just can't help himself, obviously. 

Pretty much everyone gets a warning before the hammer comes. 

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3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

It's highly unusual. Most defendants are not stupid enough to make antagonizing comments about or towards a potential juror. 

Lawyers actually spend some time coaching demeanor during a trial, but Trump just can't help himself, obviously. 

Pretty much everyone gets a warning before the hammer comes. 

The penalty is, at the very least, he has to burn a peremptory strike on her.

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6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

It's highly unusual. Most defendants are not stupid enough to make antagonizing comments about or towards a potential juror. 

Lawyers actually spend some time coaching demeanor during a trial, but Trump just can't help himself, obviously. 

Pretty much everyone gets a warning before the hammer comes. 

What sort of hammer are you referencing? If it is a fine, I’d argue the hammer is relative to assets. If he is removed from the courtroom, then I’d argue he gets what he wants.

There is historical precedent for a different hammer:

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It’s going to be fascinating to watch, because we know he can’t control himself. And this is going to last a long time. How many warnings will he get?

He wants nothing more than to be thrown in jail and brought into court in an orange jumpsuit and shackles.

PERSECUTION! ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!!1!1!1!1!1!!!!!!!!
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1 minute ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

He can't control himself, he will threaten jurors, prosecutors, witnesses, etc.,...do whatever the fuck he wants, and the judge will do nothing.  Guaran-fucking-teed. 

I remember the guy who represented himself in that wisconsin parade car chase guy case, she had to put him in a different room and forced him to participate over video whenever he got too disruptive

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

I remember the guy who represented himself in that wisconsin parade car chase guy case, she had to put him in a different room and forced him to participate over video whenever he got too disruptive

Yeah, as with most things Trump, it's an all-new situation.  Who knows what the judge will do, but he seems pretty sharp. 

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So he basically only wakes up to scream at jurors.  Seems totally normal for a person in control of their body and faculties.  

I've seen this done a number of times before.  Berate a juror you feel will be against you so you can order them gone from the pool for bias.  

And nobody can do much about it, because all he has to do is violate the gag order or judge's instructions on courtroom decorum, and Trump posts their family's addresses to his MAGA gun-toting acolytes.  And around and aroune we go.  

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3 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Just have someone sitting next to him with a spray bottle give him a couple of squirts every time he starts flapping his jaws.

Judge Lucius Desha Bunton of the Western District of Texas, RIP, had a number of rules about how lawyers could walk around the courtroom and how witnesses behave. He enforced the rules with a water pistol. At first. 

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2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Judge Lucius Desha Bunton of the Western District of Texas, RIP, had a number of rules about how lawyers could walk around the courtroom and how witnesses behave. He enforced the rules with a water pistol. At first. 

He replaced Judge John Wood who was murdered by Woody Harrelson's dad.

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Twitter folks may be over-selling it a bit. there's a play by play on Threads has that Merchan noticed Trump's grumbling and then smacked him down. wasn't terribly dramatic.

6 minutes ago, dcbc said:

The penalty is, at the very least, he has to burn a peremptory strike on her.

apparently they did. 

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22 minutes ago, dcbc said:

The penalty is, at the very least, he has to burn a peremptory strike on her.

When we were being questioned as jurors, all the jurors were present. If a defendant confronted a prospective juror in front of me, it would’ve affected my impression of said defendant regardless of the judge’s instructions. It’s human nature to do so.

Is trump trying to affect the entire jury pool as another delay tactic?

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1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

TBH, other than the reasons he's there, nodding off during jury selection is about as humanizing as he's appeared in decades. 

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29 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

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27 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Trump forced to confront 8 years worth of memes poking fun at him? And you people said there'd be no justice . . . 

Seriously, I've always assumed that he has people protecting him from seeing anything negative about him online or elsewhere, like the episode of South Park where Butters goes crazy after being forced to protect Cartman from online negativity against him. 

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19 minutes ago, Red Five said:

What did Dotard say to the juror?

Nearest I can tell, nothing. This was more about body language and possibly non-verbal grunts. I'm assuming this is more about him rolling his eyes or huffing slightly during the questioning. I also assume that the judge's warning did not happen in front of the prospective jurors.  

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What did doTARd say to the juror?

A lot of people are saying I'm one of the "Best" Defendents ever, top two or three, maybe even THE BEST EVER. A lot of people don't know that. I know more about being a defendent than anybody. I'm the KING of DEFENDENTS! Other Defendents come up to me, big tough defendents, straight out of Central Casting, tears in their eyes. "SIR!" they say. They always call me sir. "Sir! thank you for being the Best Defendent Ever!". 

 

 

 

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