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[Dahobbs 17254]

These are some short trial days. I hate that as an attorney. 

[hornmpa96 2541]

20 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it just me, the simulation, or just the fact that trump hates the story so much that makes me wonder if Trump has fathered a child out of wedlock?

 

Her name is Tiffany.

[jimmyjazz 45211]

22 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

considering his penchant for banging porn stars I'd bet it's more likely than not that he has at least one illegitimate child

Not to insinuate that porn stars are always the brightest bulbs, but wouldn't they tend to be on birth control?

[tbone_ 13991]

Francisco - just wanted to echo others and say thank you for posting these accounts of the trial. Really appreciated.

Just curious, where is this info coming from?

[SydneyCarton 47486]

23 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

considering his penchant for banging porn stars I'd bet it's more likely than not that he has at least one illegitimate child

I mean, come on. Porn Stars probably have a pretty extensive understanding on birth control applications. 

It's much more likely that an out of wedlock child came from some poor soul he raped. Like some illegal that worked on one of his estates. 

[C-Man 26755]

LOL, among the stack of articles that Trump is holding right now you could clearly see "The Daily Caller" on the masthead of one as he flipped through them.

[Francisco 2.0 32224]

6 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Francisco - just wanted to echo others and say thank you for posting these accounts of the trial. Really appreciated.

Just curious, where is this info coming from?

 

NYTimes website.  I have a sub, and they have a running narrative of the trial.  They have 4 reporters in the room (Jonah Bromwich, Maggie Haberman, Kate Christobek, Michael Gold) and they each just add to the timeline.   Occasionally, one of them will expound upon the reporting of another.  I'm just copying/pasting; not always in chronological order.  They don't update it every minute; sometimes there might be 5-10 minutes between updates.

There's others who are reporting from the courtroom (or an annex) and using Twitter for their messaging.  I'm not including them here.

 

 

And it's a wrap for the day:

 

We end the day without a final decision from the judge on whether Trump will be held in contempt and fined for violating his gag order. Justice Merchan could issue a written ruling at any point, or rule from the bench on Thursday or later. There is no deadline.

Trump, speaking in the hallway outside the courtroom, says he thinks the gag order is unconstitutional. He’s holding a stack of printed articles that he says he’s not sure he’s allowed to share because of the gag order, which only pertains to a limited set of issues. While in the middle of talking to reporters, he says, “I’d love to talk to you people, I’d love to say anything that’s on my mind, but I’m restricted.”

 

 

Edited April 23 by Francisco 2.0

[tbone_ 13991]

I mean, come on. Porn Stars probably have a pretty extensive understanding on birth control applications. 

It's much more likely that an out of wedlock child came from some poor soul he raped. Like some illegal that worked on one of his estates. 

Rape, not rape, who knows. Plenty of women throw the dirty leg at dudes like him. When you are famous, they just let you grab em by the pussy (which actually is true to a certain extent).

Regardless, I’d be really surprised if he doesn’t have some extra kids somewhere.

[Willfully Horn 7892]

40 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

To be fair, the justice system was never designed to or for protection of the Republic. It should work slow as state removal of liberty is big AF. 

The people through their congressional representatives were given the ability to impeach, remove, and restrict from office those who would imperil our system of government. There's no such thing as 'beyond a reasonable doubt' in politics.

However, half the people are broken in their brains. Partisan interests have trumped loyalty to the constitution due to monied gentry, religious zealots, and legally anthropomorphic corporations using their $ and power to pervert the very system of government meant to represent the people. Instead it represents entrenched wealth and ideologues who themselves prop up power hungry sociopaths who use politics as a personal means to enrich themselves. 

And therefore the only real lever designed to protect us has been perverted to the point where we have to rely of the justice system as a last resort.

I don’t agree the Justice system wasn’t designed to protect this Republic, which is based on law. Defending the law is a responsibility of the DoJ, and, thus, defends the Republic. Because of delays in starting an investigation into whether tfg engaged n insurrection, not to mention the delay, by SCOTUS, in clarifying immunity (especially compared with the CO ballot decree’s timeline,) whatever protection the 14th Amendment offers the Republic apparently will not be brought to bear.

State removal of liberty is absolutely big AF. The ability to run for office, is limited, however, and I don’t equate losing that ability to incarceration.

Edited April 23 by Willfully Horn

[tbone_ 13991]

 
NYTimes website.  I have a sub, and they have a running narrative of the trial.  They have 3 reporters in the room (Jonah Bromwich, Maggie Haberman, Kate Christobek) and they each just add to the timeline.   Occasionally, one of them will expound upon the reporting of another.  I'm just copying/pasting; not always in chronological order.  They don't update it every minute; sometimes there might be 5-10 minutes between updates.
There's others who are reporting from the courtroom (or an annex) and using Twitter for their messaging.  I'm not including them here.
 
 
 
 

Outstanding. Thank you for your service.

[C-Man 26755]

31 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

considering his penchant for banging porn stars I'd bet it's more likely than not that he has at least one illegitimate child

And how many has he aborted along the way.

[tbone_ 13991]

And how many has he aborted along the way.

And paid the mom to stfu

[achooloco 963]

 

21 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

But by moving onto this next deal, he could be setting up a nice cliffhanger to leave jurors with, that he'll pick back up when we return Thursday morning.

Damn, no trial tomorrow? Also, thanks for posting, really appreciate it!!

[Teebox 88]

not on Wednesdays

[royiv 9045]

11 minutes ago, C-Man said:

And how many has he aborted along the way.

Eric is the product of a botched abortion.

[Red Five 40455]

Will Team Dotard also claim that he didn’t have sex with McDougal?

[Macanudo 12798]

5 minutes ago, Teebox said:

not on Wednesdays

Why?

[tbone_ 13991]

Will Team Dotard also claim that he didn’t have sex with McDougal?

He ought to brag about that. She was one of my all time favorites from back in the day.

[Surly Bevo 24608]

1 minute ago, Macanudo said:

Why?

[pyrohornIII 4772]

Seems like Cohen told stories about how Trump used mafia style intimidation like sending thugs to threaten in person?  Maybe that was Avenatti making some shit up.   If he was/is so frugal, seems very likely he'd send some heavy to lean on someone before buying someone out.  

I hope prosecution got some proof of that and will include it into evidence.

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33723]

46 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Not to insinuate that porn stars are always the brightest bulbs, but wouldn't they tend to be on birth control?

it wasn't a direct correlation. my point was he has no morals so why would he stop at illegitimate children? the fact that he paid to kill the story tells me it's true. he doesn't pay for anything unless he has to. i mean, he's really frugal, after all. 🙄

[TwiceHorn 30851]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Doubtful.  Trump's lawyers are just trying to downplay any malfeasance possible.

Well, what they were arguing is that there is not a conspiracy charge in the indictment.  But, the charged crime may incorporate an uncharged crime if the falsification of documents is in furtherance or for the purpose of committing another crime, which I think is thus far unspecified and only guessed at by the peanut gallery.

That crime might be a conspiracy between NE, Pecker and Trump to conceal information or some such.

[Francisco 2.0 32224]

Followup from the Times reporting of the trial:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/nyregion/national-enquirer-trump-trial-david-pecker.html?smid=url-share

 

The National Enquirer’s help for Trump broke norms, even for a tabloid.

 

The National Enquirer was more than a friendly media outlet for Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign in 2016. It was a powerful, national political weapon that was thrust into the service of a single candidate, in violation of campaign finance law.

The tabloid’s former publisher, David Pecker, testified nonchalantly on Tuesday about how the tabloid operated in tandem with the Trump campaign, “catching and killing” potentially damaging stories and running elaborate and false hit pieces on Mr. Trump’s opponents. But its practices were unusual even in the wild supermarket tabloid news game.

By the admission of The Enquirer’s own publisher — first made to federal prosecutors years ago during the prosecution of Mr. Trump’s fixer, Michael Cohen — the tabloid was operating with the full intention of helping Mr. Trump’s campaign.

Under the First Amendment, newspapers are permitted to support candidates. But The Enquirer’s support went beyond journalism: The publication paid $150,000 for a story a Playboy model, Karen McDougal, was preparing to tell about an affair she said she had with the candidate. Then, it published nothing.

That sort of deal is not unusual in the tabloid news trade, even if it violates journalistic standards followed by mainstream American outlets like this one, which have rules against paying sources.

But before 2016, there had never been a known catch-and-kill deal to aid a presidential campaign. In that context, The Enquirer’s payment violated federal campaign laws prohibiting corporations from donating to presidential candidates — who are limited to receiving direct donations of $4,400 per person — and forbidding them to coordinate election-related spending with campaigns.

As The Enquirer’s parent company at the time, American Media, admitted in a “non-prosecution” deal with the federal government in 2018: “AMI knew that corporations such as AMI are subject to federal campaign finance laws, and that expenditures by corporations, made for purposes of influencing an election and in coordination with or at the request of a candidate or campaign, are unlawful.”

The deal helped secure Tuesday’s testimony.

(The Federal Election Commission later hit The Enquirer’s parent company with fines of $187,000; Mr. Trump’s campaign escaped sanction.)

The Enquirer was also providing a hidden value to Mr. Trump: By giving over its cover to his political needs, Mr. Pecker gave him the equivalent of free advertising space at most major supermarket checkout lines in the country, where the tabloid had long ago secured prime placement.

One expert said at the time that such exposure could be worth as much $3 million a month.

Worth potentially even more: The Enquirer’s agreement to keep from the checkout line not only Ms. McDougal’s story but the cache of Trump dirt it had in its own files — “tabloid gold” that would never see the light of day.

[RomaVicta 29589]

1 hour ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

This fat fuck (Cheung, not the orange one) has never made a comment that wasn't some bullshit like this. If this is all he can say, the "journalists" need to stop quoting him. 

 

 

That's a great point.

[TwiceHorn 30851]

1 hour ago, Dnaguy said:

To be fair, the justice system was never designed to or for protection of the Republic. It should work slow as state removal of liberty is big AF. 

The people through their congressional representatives were given the ability to impeach, remove, and restrict from office those who would imperil our system of government. There's no such thing as 'beyond a reasonable doubt' in politics.

However, half the people are broken in their brains. Partisan interests have trumped loyalty to the constitution due to monied gentry, religious zealots, and legally anthropomorphic corporations using their $ and power to pervert the very system of government meant to represent the people. Instead it represents entrenched wealth and ideologues who themselves prop up power hungry sociopaths who use politics as a personal means to enrich themselves. 

And therefore the only real lever designed to protect us has been perverted to the point where we have to rely of the justice system as a last resort.

[Francisco 2.0 32224]

A day after Trump issued a call for more supporters to gather outside the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, the number reached its nadir. The number of identifiable Trump fans across the street in Collect Pond Park on Tuesday sank to the mid-single digits, after hovering at about a dozen for a week.

 

Trump continues to receive favorable treatment from the New York City Police Department. For a week, a large N.Y.P.D. dump truck has parked in the intersection of Hogan Place and Centre Street, with a uniformed driver sitting inside. Minutes before Trump's arrival each morning, the dump truck has pulled a half-car length forward, blocking news photographers’ views of him entering the side door of the courthouse. And this afternoon, like those before it, the driver did the same maneuver for Trump’s 2:37 p.m. departure.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33723]

I hope he's disheartened every day at the lack of people coming to his aid in this unfair witch hunt

[SydneyCarton 47486]

Why does a police department own a dump truck?

[Macanudo 12798]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Why does a police department own a dump truck?

In NY?   Hell, they probably own all sorts of weird shit.

[SmokeyTheBear 5555]

Someone needs to hire a group of people to act as reporters, and when Trump comes out of the courtroom to do his daily airing of grievances, the group just points and laughs. 

[Walser 1090]

4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Why does a police department own a dump truck?

 

[Woland 715]

37 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

A day after Trump issued a call for more supporters to gather outside the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, the number reached its nadir. The number of identifiable Trump fans across the street in Collect Pond Park on Tuesday sank to the mid-single digits, after hovering at about a dozen for a week.

 

Trump continues to receive favorable treatment from the New York City Police Department. For a week, a large N.Y.P.D. dump truck has parked in the intersection of Hogan Place and Centre Street, with a uniformed driver sitting inside. Minutes before Trump's arrival each morning, the dump truck has pulled a half-car length forward, blocking news photographers’ views of him entering the side door of the courthouse. And this afternoon, like those before it, the driver did the same maneuver for Trump’s 2:37 p.m. departure.

Favorable as in preventing photos, or favorable as in preventing an assassination?

 

[RDCanecutter 25995]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Not to insinuate that porn stars are always the brightest bulbs, but wouldn't they tend to be on birth control?

When banging guys they think are billionaires? I could see them forgetting.

[SydneyCarton 47486]

Just now, Woland said:

Favorable as in preventing photos, or favorable as in preventing an assassination?

 

No sane person, much less in NYC, is trading in their life for ending Trumps. 

[Woland 715]

33 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Why does a police department own a dump truck?

I had to look this one up. They are filled with sand and used to contain potential bomb explosions.

[SydneyCarton 47486]

Just now, Woland said:

I had to look this one up. They are filled with sand and used to contain potential bomb explosions.

So what, they find a bomb that happens to be someplace easily accessible by a dump truck, and then they dump sand on the bomb? Or do they simply drive them near a bomb, and then some cops grab the bomb and then bury it in the sand in the back of a dump truck?

The answer is actually creating more questions for me. 

[RDCanecutter 25995]

36 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Why does a police department own a dump truck?

Confiscated it from an alleged drug-dealing owner? Can't always be a Camaro.

[Walser 1090]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

So what, they find a bomb that happens to be someplace easily accessible by a dump truck, and then they dump sand on the bomb? Or do they simply drive them near a bomb, and then some cops grab the bomb and then bury it in the sand in the back of a dump truck?

The answer is actually creating more questions for me. 

I am guessing the large mass of steel and silicate works to absorb and lessen the blast radius just by being there.

[Woland 715]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

So what, they find a bomb that happens to be someplace easily accessible by a dump truck, and then they dump sand on the bomb? Or do they simply drive them near a bomb, and then some cops grab the bomb and then bury it in the sand in the back of a dump truck?

The answer is actually creating more questions for me. 

My vast Google knowledge that I have acquired in the last 5 minutes suggests it is used as a barrier that can be rolled quickly into place. Also used to prevent vehicles from driving into protests.

[Pato del Muerto 52117]

How else would die hard 3 work?

[jimmyjazz 45211]

9 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

When banging guys they think are billionaires? I could see them forgetting.

Max chance, 6/28 = 21%.  On the pill and skip one?  Chances are essentially nil.

[Rimbo 25252]

3 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

He is, in effect, laying waste to his own professional career by going through headline after headline and suggesting he attacked Trump’s rivals to aid Trump.

this is only true, of course, if Trump loses in November.

if Trump wins, it will be a windfall for his career

[Francisco 2.0 32224]

Just now, RDCanecutter said:

Confiscated it from an alleged drug-dealing owner? Can't always be a Camaro.

 

Or maybe they confiscated it from a mob-controlled earth moving company.  Shrugs.

NYPD has all sorts of shit; years ago, I was in Times Square and there was a NYPD School Truancy van.  I just mentally pictured them running down some skipping jr high kids and throwing them in the back.

https://www.policecarwebsite.net/fc/ny/nypd/nypddiv.html

 

 

 

[Brisketexan 103656]

47 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Why does a police department own a dump truck?

I saw Austin use quite a few of them several years ago when Obama came to town.  They are quite effective mobile roadblocks to stop car/truck bombs.  Fill them with sand, park them to block the roadway, and you can't get a car bomb through.  In Austin, I saw multiple streets completely blocked off with full dump trucks -- like a dozen of them.

[Brisketexan 103656]

2 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

To be fair, the justice system was never designed to or for protection of the Republic. It should work slow as state removal of liberty is big AF. 

The people through their congressional representatives were given the ability to impeach, remove, and restrict from office those who would imperil our system of government. There's no such thing as 'beyond a reasonable doubt' in politics.

However, half the people are broken in their brains. Partisan interests have trumped loyalty to the constitution due to monied gentry, religious zealots, and legally anthropomorphic corporations using their $ and power to pervert the very system of government meant to represent the people. Instead it represents entrenched wealth and ideologues who themselves prop up power hungry sociopaths who use politics as a personal means to enrich themselves. 

And therefore the only real lever designed to protect us has been perverted to the point where we have to rely of the justice system as a last resort.

Ahem.  Technically, it's the second-to-last resort.

We can see the last resort from here.

 

[Surly Bevo 24608]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Max chance, 6/28 = 21%.  On the pill and skip one?  Chances are essentially nil.

Many people are saying that I have really good sperm, maybe even the best sperm, I don't really bring it up because I am not even sure how to discuss it, but many people continue to bring up my good sperm because they think it is absolutely the best sperm, I don't do it because I don't think that's fair.  

[YGIFS 19445]

to be fair to trump, it's understandable that a man with a dick that small to ascertain what a 'gag' is....

[Dnaguy 11599]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Ahem.  Technically, it's the second-to-last resort.

We can see the last resort from here.

 

 

My guess it would be more like this…..

[chainsaw 9668]

51 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Why does a police department own a dump truck?

It has the equivalent of a top-30 military in the world, or something crazy like that.

[Sawbonz 26904]

15 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

On the pill and skip one?  Chances are essentially nil.

Ummm