Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty

[hornmpa96 2618]

“If you’re innocent, why aren’t you testifying?”

Donald Trump

[4th&Five 41558]

2 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

“If you’re innocent, why aren’t you testifying?”

Donald Trump

 

[Gatorubet 30246]

I wish I could be outside the courtroom with a giant sign saying,

NO ONE CAN PARDON YOU FROM A STATE CRIMINAL CONVICTION, DONALD! TAKE THE LOSS PUSSY!

[jimmyjazz 45978]

Get Sam Ehlinger to say it and I'll kick in to the cameo fund.

[Biff Tannen 45691]

7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Get Sam Ehlinger to say it and I'll kick in to the cameo fund.

He’s probably a magat too

[jimmyjazz 45978]

3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

He’s probably a magat too

It runs in the neighborhood.

[speed817 19384]

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Trump can’t testify because of the corrupt democrat judge’s gag order

 

ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!!!

[Chuckie Finster 22701]

16 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

He’s probably a magat too

Periodic reminder to never look at the twitter likes of your favorite athletes.

Edited May 21 by Chuckie Finster

['stache 21819]

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

Did we get the moment in the courtroom where the judge tells Trump that it's his decision and his decision alone whether or not to testify?

 

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

Jury: "So we're supposed to believe that everyone is lying except Trump, but they won't put Trump on the stand to explain what actually happened?"

The judge will give the statement to dotard and the jury will be instructed that a criminal defendant's invocation of the Fifth Amendment is not to be inferred as an indication of guilt. But jury's gonna jury, and in this case, with everyone knowing who he is and his insistence on constantly lying, I hope they do what they do and say exactly this, "if everyone else is lying why won't he get on the stand and set the record straight?"

[Hermanator 7111]

6 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Periodic reminder to never look at the twitter likes of your favorite athletes, especially if they are from an affluent Texas suburb.

Did you get "Shipley'd"?

[tx 3 putt 77073]

2 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Did you get "Shipley'd"?

 

[jimmyjazz 45978]

Let's not forget that Trump DID say he would testify (which we all knew was bullshit):

Quote

Trump exited the room minutes later looking weary and promising to testify at the trial, which he slammed as a “witch hunt.”

The DTs

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20423]

14 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Periodic reminder to never look at the twitter likes of your favorite athletes.

Or the Hornfans West Mall board. It makes Texags look positively liberal. 

[Js1 85415]

15 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Periodic reminder to never look at the twitter likes of your favorite athletes.

Don’t look up to celebrities and athletes or politicians. They will invariably disappoint in some or many ways 

[dcbc 14487]

37 minutes ago, 'stache said:

 

The judge will give the statement to dotard and the jury will be instructed that a criminal defendant's invocation of the Fifth Amendment is not to be inferred as an indication of guilt. But jury's gonna jury, and in this case, with everyone knowing who he is and his insistence on constantly lying, I hope they do what they do and say exactly this, "if everyone else is lying why won't he get on the stand and set the record straight?"

He admonished him to a degree after the first statement to the press that he was being prevented from testifying as a result of the gag order.  Not the official admonishment, but he's been told on the record.

[gernblansten 3197]

"The prosecution has the burden of proof and they failed so miserably, every scholar is saying they proved nothing, there is not crime, so there was no reason to testify in a case that's already been won." - likely to be said a lot before next Tuesday

[Longhorn_Fan68 33874]

54 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Or the Hornfans West Mall board. It makes Texags look positively liberal. 

whenever I did wander into the politcal board back then I thought something was wrong with me as EVERYONE had the opposite opinion as me. Turns out they were the assholes. Older/wiser. 

[Sawbonz 27578]

2 hours ago, HenryJames said:

He was probably the one person who would badmouth Cohen while under oath so Trump forced his team to call him 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13515]

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Get Sam Ehlinger to say it and I'll kick in to the cameo fund.

 

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

He’s probably a magat too

No idea of his political leanings but I never liked Sam. I'm perfectly fine that his time as our QB will be forgotten.

[SquishMitten 10415]

2 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

I wish I could be outside the courtroom with a giant sign saying,

NO ONE CAN PARDON YOU FROM A STATE CRIMINAL CONVICTION, DONALD! TAKE THE LOSS PUSSY!

Daniel Perry out front shoulda told you otherwise

[Nice Guy Eddie 13515]

How in the world has this trial taken 5 weeks, and the jury is instructed to come back next TUESDAY for closing arguments.

[Hard Times 302]

Is Dotard in  jail yet? This is ridiculous. Just throw Dotard in jail so we can move on. This should have been done a long time ago.

Edited May 21 by Hard Times

[texasdago 7575]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

How in the world has this trial taken 5 weeks, and the jury is instructed to come back next TUESDAY for closing arguments.

Well, if it is stressing him out, add another week.  

[C-Man 27230]

I wish CNN would stop running Dotard's post-trial day diatribes live and in full. It's the same stream-of-consciousness, diarrhea of the mouth garbage every single afternoon. Don't give him the air time to spew gutter trash lies.

[Biff Tannen 45691]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

How in the world has this trial taken 5 weeks, and the jury is instructed to come back next TUESDAY for closing arguments.

Lawdogs explained it somewhere.  Something about the holiday weekend I think.

 

42 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

Is Dotard in  jail yet? This is ridiculous. Just throw Dotard in jail so we can move on. This should have been done a long time ago.

He's not going to jail.  No matter how much he deserves it.  Hamburger from heaven is all that will save us.

[BamaATL 16593]

So the jury gets instructions prior to the closing statements, which are to be a made a week from now.  Well ok, first how long realistically will closing arguments be, roughly a few hours each?  I'd be so pissed if I were on the jury just wanting this to be done with.  

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19206]

28 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

So the jury gets instructions prior to the closing statements, which are to be a made a week from now.  Well ok, first how long realistically will closing arguments be, roughly a few hours each?  I'd be so pissed if I were on the jury just wanting this to be done with.  

 

Apparently one (or more) of the jurors had vacay plans so we can't go and string his ass up until happy fun time is over.

[WhatTheBuck 28788]

1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Apparently one (or more) of the jurors had vacay plans so we can't go and string his ass up until happy fun time is over.

Yeah, one has plans tomorrow (they’re normally off on Wednesday but that prevents a reschedule) and another has an early afternoon flight on Friday. Monday is a holiday. You don’t want the jury to start deliberations on Thursday then break for a long weekend so they’ll get started on Tuesday. 

[WhatTheBuck 28788]

 

[Surly Bevo 25051]

I know they got alternates so things can’t be totally mucked up but I’m not so sure if I was a juror on this thing I would feel great about blowing town with the proceedings still ongoing.

[bolverk 29687]

"If the courts in New York come after any of you because of something you said, because you said something the ruling class didn't like, and that's what all these other countries are about," he continued. "They want to be sure that anyone that speaks up against the ruling class disappears."

"They want to take him off the main stage because they know he is their biggest danger to take on the ruling class."

"Isn't Donald Trump part of the ruling class?" one nearby journalist asked.

Patrick quickly fired back: 'Now, no, you know what? Donald Trump is not the ruling class. Donald Trump is for every New Yorker. He's for every Texan, every, every state."

"Donald Trump has put his whole life on the line, his whole life on the line for the American people," he added.

Video clip linked at the bottom of the article: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-surrogates-ruling-class/

[Gatorubet 30246]

i’m not sure about all that law stuff, but if Costello was either representing or attempting to represent Cohen - all the while secretly working for Giuliani and Trump to let them know what Cohen was up to - that seems to be an itsy-bitsey, teeny-weenie sort of, kinda ethics problem that someone needs to point out to Costello’s state bar grievance committee. 

[tx 3 putt 77073]

46 minutes ago, bolverk said:

"If the courts in New York come after any of you because of something you said, because you said something the ruling class didn't like, and that's what all these other countries are about," he continued. "They want to be sure that anyone that speaks up against the ruling class disappears."

"They want to take him off the main stage because they know he is their biggest danger to take on the ruling class."

"Isn't Donald Trump part of the ruling class?" one nearby journalist asked.

Patrick quickly fired back: 'Now, no, you know what? Donald Trump is not the ruling class. Donald Trump is for every New Yorker. He's for every Texan, every, every state."

"Donald Trump has put his whole life on the line, his whole life on the line for the American people," he added.

Video clip linked at the bottom of the article: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-surrogates-ruling-class/

who paid for his trip to nyc ?

[4th&Five 41558]

[Doc Sam Beckett 5793]

6 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

i’m not sure about all that law stuff, but if Costello was either representing or attempting to represent Cohen - all the while secretly working for Giuliani and Trump to let them know what Cohen was up to - that seems to be an itsy-bitsey, teeny-weenie sort of, kinda ethics problem that someone needs to point out to Costello’s state bar grievance committee. 

Prosecution's final questioning of Costello was to hammer home that he never represented Cohen 

[UTCzech III 2907]

3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

who paid for his trip to nyc ?

When after all, it was you and me

[Gil Bang 25975]

24 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

who paid for his trip to nyc ?

probably some sugar daddy from Grindr.

[Satchel 6938]

26 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

who paid for his trip to nyc ?

Pastor Patrick paid his own way.

[Gatorubet 30246]

11 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Prosecution's final questioning of Costello was to hammer home that he never represented Cohen 

I hear you homes.  But it seemed clear that Costello was trying to get Cohen to retain him for improper purposes. I do not think the bar would ignore a conviction for a hiring a hitman on the basis that the murder never occurred.  The attempt is kind of the thing.

I guess I am wrestling with the fact that he was trying to get Cohen on board with an avowed secret intent to have a non-waivable conflict of interest in that representation.    Since the attempt was in writing, like an email to a potential hitman, I’m wondering if the lack of success of the attempted bad act will be defensible. 

Mostly, I’d like to see a grievance brought just to see what they’d say - and to have that shithead squirm a bit and have his reputation besmirched even more.   

No prosecutor will even have to say it, but the collection of smarmy, dishonest, reprehensible Trump confidants (like Costello, Giuliani and Cohen) paraded before them will be a thing that the jury cannot ignore - they all work for the lying shithead in orange and all behave in a way that his firm culture dictates - which would seem to support Trump‘s Stormy misdemeanoring/felony-ish behavior as a just another day at work in Trump World. 

It will not be a jury instruction and possibly not a direct point on close (not sure the propriety of that) but I think every juror will carry that perception with them into the jury room.

[YGIFS 19452]

40 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

who paid for his trip to nyc ?

I think it was part of a marketing junket provided by Lane Bryant.  Or maybe J. Jill.  I think it's all on the up and up.  

[Burt 4085]

On 5/20/2024 at 2:49 PM, tx ind said:

too easy, now do it with Butch Body, Huckabee Sanders, and Sidney Powell

The only acceptable answer is "kill myself ".

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

8 hours ago, bolverk said:

...

"They want to take him off the main stage because they know he is their biggest danger to take on the ruling class."

"Isn't Donald Trump part of the ruling class?" one nearby journalist asked.

Patrick quickly fired back: 'Now, no, you know what? Donald Trump is not the ruling class. Donald Trump is for every New Yorker. He's for every Texan, every, every state."

 

Quote

“I gave to many people before this -- before two months ago I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And you know what, when I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them. They are there for me. That's a broken system.”

- Donald Trump, 2015

[Fudge Nuggets 19206]

11 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

i’m not sure about all that law stuff, but if Costello was either representing or attempting to represent Cohen - all the while secretly working for Giuliani and Trump to let them know what Cohen was up to - that seems to be an itsy-bitsey, teeny-weenie sort of, kinda ethics problem that someone needs to point out to Costello’s state bar grievance committee. 

Why?  It's not like a state bar is going to do fuck all about it.

[Gatorubet 30246]

10 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Why?  It's not like a state bar is going to do fuck all about it.

Yes. Every single one of the 50 states’ Bars act the exactvsame way.   The bar associations of individual federal district courts act the same way, no matter where you are in the country.    Even though they claim to actually follow different rules, you have correctly surmised that every single one is the same and will do nothing.   That is why you are so wise.

[dcbc 14487]

I think the point of cross-examination with the emails was to prove he was a go-between between Cohen and Trump via Rudy all along.  I don't think it has anything to do with his ethical obligations to Cohen.

[Fudge Nuggets 19206]

3 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Yes. Every single one of the 50 states’ Bars act the exactvsame way.   The bar associations of individual federal district courts act the same way, no matter where you are in the country.    Even though they claim to actually follow different rules, you have correctly surmised that every single one is the same and will do nothing.   That is why you are so wise.

yawn.  Fuck all is going to happen.  I’m not the one constantly defending a corrupt system ol’ wise one.

[The Dog 44063]

Blanche is getting fucking PAID: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-debt-legal-fees-lawyers-b2549448.html

Quote

Mr Blanche is representing Mr Trump who stands trial for falsifying business records over alleged hush money payments to adult star Stormy Daniels to quash claims of an alleged affair ahead of the 2016 presidential election.

The ex-president owed $837,000 to the firm with a majority of the fee accruing since the end of March, with jury selection for the case commencing on 15 April. Blanche Law has since been paid $854,000, according to The Daily Beast.

Mr Blanche is set for a lucrative year, also defending Mr Trump for his classified documents case in Florida, which has been postponed, and co-counsel for his federal election interference case in DC.

Quote

Founded and controlled by Mr Trump, Save America leadership political action committee (PAC) has been his primary fundraising and political spending wing since he left the White House.

According to Save America’s most recent filings with the FEC, the former president owes approximately $1.1 million to five law firms. One law firm accounts for Save America’s greatest debt: Blanche Law, founded by Todd Blanche.

and Save America is paying a lot of legal bills:

Quote

Additionally, Save America dished out nearly $3.3 million in May on legal consulting.

 

[TexasEd 8067]

On 5/21/2024 at 10:45 AM, Red Five said:

Did we get the moment in the courtroom where the judge tells Trump that it's his decision and his decision alone whether or not to testify?

At least call out his BS and say if he wants to talk about the other witnesses in the case the proper forum is under oath from the witness stand.  

[Gatorubet 30246]

1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

yawn.  Fuck all is going to happen.  I’m not the one constantly defending a corrupt system ol’ wise one.

We have enough real world negative problems without you creating fictional new ones all the time.  Also, you need to learn the difference between defending and explaining. 

I cannot say, if Trump will be guilty or not, but I can say that the system is working perfectly in this case, and that the judge and the prosecutor and the appellate courts and “the system” is so far working perfectly.   There have been no bullshit rulings, and everything has been on the up and up.

Of course, you will ignore the 100 correct rulings that have happened so far in this case and latch on to one if it’s not to your liking as an example of the corrupt system. 

That does not mean I don’t agree we should repeatedly keelhaul Alito using the Constitution….the frigate, I mean. 

[TexasEd 8067]

19 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Yeah, one has plans tomorrow (they’re normally off on Wednesday but that prevents a reschedule) and another has an early afternoon flight on Friday. Monday is a holiday. You don’t want the jury to start deliberations on Thursday then break for a long weekend so they’ll get started on Tuesday. 

I heard there may be some high school/college graduations too.