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[pyrohornIII 4847]

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

This needs to be on FoxNews ….

 

Yeah, but Hillary's crimes were real, Trump's were/are fake news

[jimmyjazz 47324]

I just heard our old buddy Steve on AM radio blathering about "Biden is literally importing sex trafficking rings" and "Biden is a Communist" and the DOJ is a "Communist tool of the fascist left-wing Deep State".  It's like a greatest hits tour when Aerosmith can barely function but they give it the old college try.

[mr.goodkat 469]

6 minutes ago, immamac said:

I think this is an overreaction. I think hope a ton of people are using this as smelling salts. It was a jury trial not a bench trial. 

i hope its an overreaction as i hope its really making some think 

[Jiggy-Z 3509]

3 minutes ago, immamac said:

I think this is an overreaction. I think a ton of people are using this as smelling salts. It was a jury trial not a bench trial. 

No way.  There was enough dirt on him even before the 2016 election.

The bankruptcies, filandering, lost on 2 civil tax cases, the stiffed vendors, associations with known drug traffickers.

Trump should have have gone before the first primary if not sooner.

The press got so caught up in all the chaos, that they forgot to actually do their job. That and Barack Obama was black and Hillary was a woman.

[TexArcher 39077]

6 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

Yeah, but Hillary's crimes were real, Trump's were/are fake news

Right.  They actually believe there was a secret child sex ring run out of a pizza parlor, but Donald Trump bragging about sexual assault, palling around with Epstein, and being accused by like 17 women doesn't raise their eyebrows.

These are the same people who think Fauci is full of shit and vaccines don't work, then when they get Covid they take horse dewormer that they got from their uncle the country vet, because they heard on Facebook from a housewife who did her shitter research that that's the real cure.

This has become a divide of the people who can read, think, and tell a good news source from bullshit against those who can't, and those who can't have 95% of the guns.

Ain't no way this ends well.

 

Edited May 31 by TexArcher

[locodos 5593]

11 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Right, but if Trump loses, it was a rigged election.

And if Trump dies in the meantime, he was assassinated.

Fox News has completely broken over 1/3 of this country, and there's no putting them back together again.

I'm afraid that either Trump wins in November, or that mob is gonna make us all forget about Jan 6th.

well they're going to be short a few guys... And you'd have to think more than a few Trumpkins are taking the prosecutions as a shot across the bow.  I think if Jan 6th is tried again, the outcome for the participants will be significantly worse.   In the form a much more robust and belligerent police force.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/36-months-jan-6-attack-capitol-0#:~:text=Sentencings%3A,sentenced to periods of incarceration.

Arrests made: More than 1,265 defendants have been charged in nearly all 50 states and the District of Columbia. (This includes those charged in both District and Superior Court).

Sentencings:

• Approximately 749 federal defendants have had their cases adjudicated and received sentences for their criminal activity on Jan. 6. Approximately 467 have been sentenced to periods of incarceration. Approximately 154 defendants have been sentenced to a period of home detention, including approximately 28 who also were sentenced to a period of incarceration.

Edited May 31 by locodos

[immamac 44418]

1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

Right.  They actually believe there was a secret child sex ring run out of a pizza parlor, but Donald Trump bragging about sexual assault, palling around with Epstein, and being accused by like 17 women doesn't raise their eyebrows.

These are the same people who think Fauci is full of shit and vaccines don't work, then when they get Covid, they take horse dewormer that they got from the uncle the country vet, because they heard on Facebook from a housewife who did her shitter research that that's the real cure.

This has become a divide of the people who can read, think, and tell a good news source from bullshit against those who can't, and those who can't have 95% of the guns.

Ain't no way this ends well.

If you believe this then we are fucked regardless of trump. 

[TexArcher 39077]

Just now, immamac said:

If you believe this then we are fucked regardless of trump. 

Precisely.

Trump is a symptom.

[immamac 44418]

Just now, TexArcher said:

Precisely.

Trump is a symptom.

Ok Andrew Yang 

[RDCanecutter 26923]

7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I just heard our old buddy Steve on AM radio blathering about "Biden is literally importing sex trafficking rings" and "Biden is a Communist" and the DOJ is a "Communist tool of the fascist left-wing Deep State".  It's like a greatest hits tour when Aerosmith can barely function but they give it the old college try.

In case you ever wondered what the Hapsburgs would have looked like with smaller chins.

[C-Man 27831]

9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I just heard our old buddy Steve on AM radio blathering about "Biden is literally importing sex trafficking rings" and "Biden is a Communist" and the DOJ is a "Communist tool of the fascist left-wing Deep State".  It's like a greatest hits tour when Aerosmith can barely function but they give it the old college try.

[Askew 371]

16 minutes ago, C-Man said:

He's cheated on every woman he's ever had a relationship with, right? Why pay this one of hundreds to keep quiet? Because he was running for POTUS. And then he didn't want to use his money. This + That = Big Fucking Problem

 

Not a chance she's on any of his accounts -- probably for this very reason.

Oh yeah im not arguing about the felony charge. I just hate the propaganda line that is being circulated in Trumpworld of 'NDAs are totally legal! His actions were fine and done all the time and this is a witch hunt!' as a way of dismissing the entire care -- the underlying behavior is definitely not legal in NY. It is a misdemeanor.

[RDCanecutter 26923]

12 minutes ago, Bama Llama said:

 Trump Nation was all prepared to celebrate like the Boogers in Auburn just before this happened.  They never conceived they might LOSE!

Yeah, yeah.  Now the Horns have Bond.   I’m sute he’ll excel on the 40 Acres.  More power to him.

Best part was the Auburn D giving Milroe (and the Auburn fans) about 5 minutes on that last play to think about it.

[locodos 5593]

12 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I just heard our old buddy Steve on AM radio blathering about "Biden is literally importing sex trafficking rings" and "Biden is a Communist" and the DOJ is a "Communist tool of the fascist left-wing Deep State".  It's like a greatest hits tour when Aerosmith can barely function but they give it the old college try.

+

[Gatorubet 30789]

Let's say the motive is to save his marriage. Is it easier to hide an affair using your business as a slush fund, or your personal account that your wife probably has access to? 

We aren’t talking about your wife or my wife, we are talking about Donald J Trump’s wife.  The only money things they talk about is how much money she gets to buy clothes and lunch with her girlfriends - and sometimes whatever bump up to her prenup she can finagle to make her stay with him.

Weisselberg probably was in charge of/had possession of his personal checkbooks.  Edited May 31 by Gatorubet

[Gil Bang 26251]

5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

“Not of.”

The dumbest fucking timeline.

he really is aggy material.

[F250 29205]

35 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Miller looks like a sad worn out dildo that's been discarded on the street of an alley in Boys Town.

[dcbc 14645]

1 hour ago, elfenix said:

i have to wonder if they developed that color for suit jackets because they looked good on black and white sets? color tv sales didn't surpass black and white in the US until 1972. 

That color on a Gibson Les Paul (Jr.) is called "TV Yellow."

Edited May 31 by dcbc

[TexArcher 39077]

22 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Precisely.

Trump is a symptom.

 

21 minutes ago, immamac said:

Ok Andrew Yang 

 

Trump would've been laughed off the stage in 1996.  In 2016, he was elected president.  In 2024, he has a full-blown cult following openly talking about insurrection if he doesn't win again.  All of this has very little do with Donald Trump.  He is a figurehead, a means to an end.  The machine that is running all of this, and has been for about 30 years now, will not die with Donald Trump.  And the extremely well-armed and righteously pissed off mob that they've created won't, either.

If anyone thinks Trump is going to lose in November and this country is somehow going to regain its political sanity, that's some pretty remarkable wishful thinking.

So, yeah, Trump is a symptom.  He is part of the problem, and dangerous in his own right, but he's just one head on the hydra at this point, and there will be others.

[Bama Llama 1510]

26 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Best part was the Auburn D giving Milroe (and the Auburn fans) about 5 minutes on that last play to think about it.

You speak the truth.  The Auburn defensive "brain trust" was so concerned about MIlroe scrambling, there was only a three man rush.  Even then, only two players made any attempt to pressure Milroe.  Weak!

[TexEx15 17959]

This is just the right tone. Outside of the debates, this is the last thing Biden should say about it. He needs to keep his campaign focused on the voters. Let his surrogates hammer the conviction. 

[YGIFS 19458]

47 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I just heard our old buddy Steve on AM radio blathering about "Biden is literally importing sex trafficking rings" and "Biden is a Communist" and the DOJ is a "Communist tool of the fascist left-wing Deep State".  It's like a greatest hits tour when Aerosmith can barely function but they give it the old college try.

and just by coincidence, Steven Miller and Steven Tyler had the same set of lips.  Though slightly different hairdos.  

[Pato del Muerto 53593]

1 hour ago, Askew said:

Fair enough and likely true. I am just stating my general assumption that a spouse usually has less access to business records than personal records. 

Pretty sure Trump views marriage as a business transaction. 

[miguelito 11515]

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

Biden team announced they raised $35 million since the verdict 

They should have rounded down to "$34 million."

[Gatorubet 30789]

Who wore it better?

[Red Five 41785]

I can’t even look at pictures of Miller. He is evil incarnate.

[cactusflinthead 27628]

He's got a new sign.

 

[DixonHur 11970]

8 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Right.  They actually believe there was a secret child sex ring run out of a pizza parlor, but Donald Trump bragging about sexual assault, palling around with Epstein, and being accused by like 17 women doesn't raise their eyebrows.

These are the same people who think Fauci is full of shit and vaccines don't work, then when they get Covid they take horse dewormer that they got from their uncle the country vet, because they heard on Facebook from a housewife who did her shitter research that that's the real cure.

This has become a divide of the people who can read, think, and tell a good news source from bullshit against those who can't, and those who can't have 95% of the guns.

Ain't no way this ends well.

 

We kinda end up at the same conclusion, but I don't think it's as simple as that.

Not to go all @Anastasis, but there are smart people on both sides.  I just think the smart people on the right are pretending to be dumb to gain support from the dumb people.  They don't like Trump, but he and his blind-faith followers are useful idiots in the accomplishment of their goals... IE a Chisto-fascist nation.

The smart people on the left think that sound reasoning and logic will triumph.  I hope they're right but suspect they're deadly wrong.

This is Mein Kampf 101... for those who have not read the book, below is the most succinct excerpt on propaganda.  Read this and the plan becomes crystal clear.  Spoilered for length... and I've highlighted a few key points for the tl;dr crowd.

Spoiler

The second question of decisive importance is this: To whom should propaganda be made to appeal? To the educated intellectual classes? Or to the less intellectual?

Propaganda must always address itself to the broad masses of the people. For the intellectual classes, or what are called the intellectual classes to-day, propaganda is not suited, but only scientific exposition. Propaganda has as little to do with science as an advertisement poster has to do with art, as far as concerns the form in which it presents its message. The art of the advertisement poster consists in the ability of the designer to attract the attention of the crowd through the form and colours he chooses. The advertisement poster announcing an exhibition of art has no other aim than to convince the public of the importance of the exhibition. The better it does that, the better is the art of the poster as such. Being meant accordingly to impress upon the public the meaning of the exposition, the poster can never take the place of the artistic objects displayed in the exposition hall. They are something entirely different. Therefore. those who wish to study the artistic display must study something that is quite different from the poster; indeed for that purpose a mere wandering through the exhibition galleries is of no use. The student of art must carefully and thoroughly study each exhibit in order slowly to form a judicious opinion about it.

The situation is the same in regard to what we understand by the word, propaganda. The purpose of propaganda is not the personal instruction of the individual, but rather to attract public attention to certain things, the importance of which can be brought home to the masses only by this means.

Here the art of propaganda consists in putting a matter so clearly and forcibly before the minds of the people as to create a general conviction regarding the reality of a certain fact, the necessity of certain things and the just character of something that is essential. But as this art is not an end in itself and because its purpose must be exactly that of the advertisement poster, to attract the attention of the masses and not by any means to dispense individual instructions to those who already have an educated opinion on things or who wish to form such an opinion on grounds of objective study--because that is not the purpose of propaganda, it must appeal to the feelings of the public rather than to their reasoning powers.

All propaganda must be presented in a popular form and must fix its intellectual level so as not to be above the heads of the least intellectual of those to whom it is directed. Thus its purely intellectual level will have to be that of the lowest mental common denominator among the public it is desired to reach. When there is question of bringing a whole nation within the circle of its influence, as happens in the case of war propaganda, then too much attention cannot be paid to the necessity of avoiding a high level, which presupposes a relatively high degree of intelligence among the public.

The more modest the scientific tenor of this propaganda and the more it is addressed exclusively to public sentiment, the more decisive will be its success. This is the best test of the value of a propaganda, and not the approbation of a small group of intellectuals or artistic people.

The art of propaganda consists precisely in being able to awaken the imagination of the public through an appeal to their feelings, in finding the appropriate psychological form that will arrest the attention and appeal to the hearts of the national masses. That this is not understood by those among us whose wits are supposed to have been sharpened to the highest pitch is only another proof of their vanity or mental inertia.

Once we have understood how necessary it is to concentrate the persuasive forces of propaganda on the broad masses of the people, the following lessons result therefrom:

That it is a mistake to organize the direct propaganda as if it were a manifold system of scientific instruction.

The receptive powers of the masses are very restricted, and their understanding is feeble. On the other hand, they quickly forget. Such being the case, all effective propaganda must be confined to a few bare essentials and those must be expressed as far as possible in stereotyped formulas. These slogans should be persistently repeated until the very last individual has come to grasp the idea that has been put forward. If this principle be forgotten and if an attempt be made to be abstract and general, the propaganda will turn out ineffective; for the public will not be able to digest or retain what is offered to them in this way. Therefore, the greater the scope of the message that has to be presented, the more necessary it is for the propaganda to discover that plan of action which is psychologically the most efficient.

It was, for example, a fundamental mistake to ridicule the worth of the enemy as the Austrian and German comic papers made a chief point of doing in their propaganda. The very principle here is a mistaken one; for, when they came face to face with the enemy, our soldiers had quite a different impression. Therefore, the mistake had disastrous results. Once the German soldier realised what a tough enemy he had to fight he felt that he had been deceived by the manufacturers of the information which had been given him. Therefore, instead of strengthening and stimulating his fighting spirit, this information had quite the contrary effect. Finally he lost heart.

On the other hand, British and American war propaganda was psychologically efficient. By picturing the Germans to their own people as Barbarians and Huns, they were preparing their soldiers for the horrors of war and safeguarding them against illusions. The most terrific weapons which those soldiers encountered in the field merely confirmed the information that they had already received and their belief in the truth of the assertions made by their respective governments was accordingly reinforced. Thus their rage and hatred against the infamous foe was increased. The terrible havoc caused by the German weapons of war was only another illustration of the Hunnish brutality of those barbarians; whereas on the side of the Entente no time was left the soldiers to meditate on the similar havoc which their own weapons were capable of. Thus the British soldier was never allowed to feel that the information which he received at home was untrue. Unfortunately the opposite was the case with the Germans, who finally wound up by rejecting everything from home as pure swindle and humbug. This result was made possible because at home they thought that the work of propaganda could be entrusted to the first ass that came along, braying of his own special talents, and they had no conception of the fact that propaganda demands the most skilled brains that can be found.

Thus the German war propaganda afforded us an incomparable example of how the work of 'enlightenment' should not be done and how such an example was the result of an entire failure to take any psychological considerations whatsoever into account.

From the enemy, however, a fund of valuable knowledge could be gained by those who kept their eyes open, whose powers of perception had not yet become sclerotic, and who during four-and-a-half years had to experience the perpetual flood of enemy propaganda.

The worst of all was that our people did not understand the very first condition which has to be fulfilled in every kind of propaganda; namely, a systematically one-sided attitude towards every problem that has to be dealt with. In this regard so many errors were committed, even from the very beginning of the war, that it was justifiable to doubt whether so much folly could be attributed solely to the stupidity of people in higher quarters.

What, for example, should we say of a poster which purported to advertise some new brand of soap by insisting on the excellent qualities of the competitive brands? We should naturally shake our heads. And it ought to be just the same in a similar kind of political advertisement. The aim of propaganda is not to try to pass judgment on conflicting rights, giving each its due, but exclusively to emphasize the right which we are asserting. Propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively and, in so far as it is favourable to the other side, present it according to the theoretical rules of justice; yet it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side.

It was a fundamental mistake to discuss the question of who was responsible for the outbreak of the war and declare that the sole responsibility could not be attributed to Germany. The sole responsibility should have been laid on the shoulders of the enemy, without any discussion whatsoever.

And what was the consequence of these half-measures? The broad masses of the people are not made up of diplomats or professors of public jurisprudence nor simply of persons who are able to form reasoned judgment in given cases, but a vacillating crowd of human children who are constantly wavering between one idea and another. As soon as our own propaganda made the slightest suggestion that the enemy had a certain amount of justice on his side, then we laid down the basis on which the justice of our own cause could be questioned. The masses are not in a position to discern where the enemy's fault ends and where our own begins. In such a case they become hesitant and distrustful, especially when the enemy does not make the same mistake but heaps all the blame on his adversary. Could there be any clearer proof of this than the fact that finally our own people believed what was said by the enemy's propaganda, which was uniform and consistent in its assertions, rather than what our own propaganda said? And that, of course, was increased by the mania for objectivity which addicts our people. Everybody began to be careful about doing an injustice to the enemy, even at the cost of seriously injuring, and even ruining his own people and State.

Naturally the masses were not conscious of the fact that those in authority had failed to study the subject from this angle.

The great majority of a nation is so feminine in its character and outlook that its thought and conduct are ruled by sentiment rather than by sober reasoning. This sentiment, however, is not complex, but simple and consistent. It is not highly differentiated, but has only the negative and positive notions of love and hatred, right and wrong, truth and falsehood. Its notions are never partly this and partly that. English propaganda especially understood this in a marvellous way and put what they understood into practice. They allowed no half-measures which might have given rise to some doubt.

Proof of how brilliantly they understood that the feeling of the masses is something primitive was shown in their policy of publishing tales of horror and outrages which fitted in with the real horrors of the time, thereby cleverly and ruthlessly preparing the ground for moral solidarity at the front, even in times of great defeats. Further, the way in which they pilloried the German enemy as solely responsible for the war--which was a brutal and absolute falsehood--and the way in which they proclaimed his guilt was excellently calculated to reach the masses, realizing that these are always extremist in their feelings. And thus it was that this atrocious lie was positively believed.

The effectiveness of this kind of propaganda is well illustrated by the fact that after four-and-a-half years, not only was the enemy still carrying on his propagandist work, but it was already undermining the stamina of our people at home.

That our propaganda did not achieve similar results is not to be wondered at, because it had the germs of inefficiency lodged in its very being by reason of its ambiguity. And because of the very nature of its content one could not expect it to make the necessary impression on the masses. Only our feckless 'statesmen' could have imagined that on pacifists slops of such a kind the enthusiasm could be nourished which is necessary to enkindle that spirit which leads men to die for their country.

And so this product of ours was not only worthless but detrimental.

No matter what an amount of talent employed in the organization of propaganda, it will have no result if due account is not taken of these fundamental principles. Propaganda must be limited to a few simple themes and these must be represented again and again. Here, as in innumerable other cases, perseverance is the first and most important condition of success.

 

[jimmyjazz 47324]

7 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

and just by coincidence, Steven Miller and Steven Tyler had the same set of lips.  Though slightly different hairdos.  

I bet they have a lot more in common than you think.  Spoilered because maybe NSFW but definitely gross:

Spoiler

 

[Pato del Muerto 53593]

51 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

This has become a divide of the people who can read, think, and tell a good news source from bullshit against those who can't, and those who can't have 95% of the guns.

You think 40% of America has 95% of the guns?  

[YGIFS 19458]

1 hour ago, Jiggy-Z said:

New nickname.

Tefelon Don.

I think this one will stick.

actually, instead of Teflon Don, I prefer Telethon Don because that's all that will come of this.  He'll send out videos asking you financially aid his appeal and offer you a tote bag that you'll never get.  

I cannot fucking believe this is the same country literally dozens of my family members fought to preserve.  Either the 6th and 7th amendments mean something to the armchair dipshit "students of the Constitution." or they don't.  You can't just talk about free speech, guns, and Donald holding the all-time record for pleading the 5th.  Good lord, now I gotta hear about ConLaw from a dozen different relatives this summer while this shithead awaits sentencing.  But it's a trade-off I'm willing to make.   

[Gil Bang 26251]

2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

We kinda end up at the same conclusion, but I don't think it's as simple as that.

Not to go all @Anastasis, but there are smart people on both sides.  I just think the smart people on the right are pretending to be dumb to gain support from the dumb people.  They don't like Trump, but he and his blind-faith followers are useful idiots in the accomplishment of their goals... IE a Chisto-fascist nation.

The smart people on the left think that sound reasoning and logic will triumph.  I hope they're right but suspect they're deadly wrong.

This is Mein Kampf 101... for those who have not read the book, below is the most succinct excerpt on propaganda.  Read this and the plan becomes crystal clear.  Spoilered for length... and I've highlighted a few key points for the tl;dr crowd.

  Reveal hidden contents

The second question of decisive importance is this: To whom should propaganda be made to appeal? To the educated intellectual classes? Or to the less intellectual?

Propaganda must always address itself to the broad masses of the people. For the intellectual classes, or what are called the intellectual classes to-day, propaganda is not suited, but only scientific exposition. Propaganda has as little to do with science as an advertisement poster has to do with art, as far as concerns the form in which it presents its message. The art of the advertisement poster consists in the ability of the designer to attract the attention of the crowd through the form and colours he chooses. The advertisement poster announcing an exhibition of art has no other aim than to convince the public of the importance of the exhibition. The better it does that, the better is the art of the poster as such. Being meant accordingly to impress upon the public the meaning of the exposition, the poster can never take the place of the artistic objects displayed in the exposition hall. They are something entirely different. Therefore. those who wish to study the artistic display must study something that is quite different from the poster; indeed for that purpose a mere wandering through the exhibition galleries is of no use. The student of art must carefully and thoroughly study each exhibit in order slowly to form a judicious opinion about it.

The situation is the same in regard to what we understand by the word, propaganda. The purpose of propaganda is not the personal instruction of the individual, but rather to attract public attention to certain things, the importance of which can be brought home to the masses only by this means.

Here the art of propaganda consists in putting a matter so clearly and forcibly before the minds of the people as to create a general conviction regarding the reality of a certain fact, the necessity of certain things and the just character of something that is essential. But as this art is not an end in itself and because its purpose must be exactly that of the advertisement poster, to attract the attention of the masses and not by any means to dispense individual instructions to those who already have an educated opinion on things or who wish to form such an opinion on grounds of objective study--because that is not the purpose of propaganda, it must appeal to the feelings of the public rather than to their reasoning powers.

All propaganda must be presented in a popular form and must fix its intellectual level so as not to be above the heads of the least intellectual of those to whom it is directed. Thus its purely intellectual level will have to be that of the lowest mental common denominator among the public it is desired to reach. When there is question of bringing a whole nation within the circle of its influence, as happens in the case of war propaganda, then too much attention cannot be paid to the necessity of avoiding a high level, which presupposes a relatively high degree of intelligence among the public.

The more modest the scientific tenor of this propaganda and the more it is addressed exclusively to public sentiment, the more decisive will be its success. This is the best test of the value of a propaganda, and not the approbation of a small group of intellectuals or artistic people.

The art of propaganda consists precisely in being able to awaken the imagination of the public through an appeal to their feelings, in finding the appropriate psychological form that will arrest the attention and appeal to the hearts of the national masses. That this is not understood by those among us whose wits are supposed to have been sharpened to the highest pitch is only another proof of their vanity or mental inertia.

Once we have understood how necessary it is to concentrate the persuasive forces of propaganda on the broad masses of the people, the following lessons result therefrom:

That it is a mistake to organize the direct propaganda as if it were a manifold system of scientific instruction.

The receptive powers of the masses are very restricted, and their understanding is feeble. On the other hand, they quickly forget. Such being the case, all effective propaganda must be confined to a few bare essentials and those must be expressed as far as possible in stereotyped formulas. These slogans should be persistently repeated until the very last individual has come to grasp the idea that has been put forward. If this principle be forgotten and if an attempt be made to be abstract and general, the propaganda will turn out ineffective; for the public will not be able to digest or retain what is offered to them in this way. Therefore, the greater the scope of the message that has to be presented, the more necessary it is for the propaganda to discover that plan of action which is psychologically the most efficient.

It was, for example, a fundamental mistake to ridicule the worth of the enemy as the Austrian and German comic papers made a chief point of doing in their propaganda. The very principle here is a mistaken one; for, when they came face to face with the enemy, our soldiers had quite a different impression. Therefore, the mistake had disastrous results. Once the German soldier realised what a tough enemy he had to fight he felt that he had been deceived by the manufacturers of the information which had been given him. Therefore, instead of strengthening and stimulating his fighting spirit, this information had quite the contrary effect. Finally he lost heart.

On the other hand, British and American war propaganda was psychologically efficient. By picturing the Germans to their own people as Barbarians and Huns, they were preparing their soldiers for the horrors of war and safeguarding them against illusions. The most terrific weapons which those soldiers encountered in the field merely confirmed the information that they had already received and their belief in the truth of the assertions made by their respective governments was accordingly reinforced. Thus their rage and hatred against the infamous foe was increased. The terrible havoc caused by the German weapons of war was only another illustration of the Hunnish brutality of those barbarians; whereas on the side of the Entente no time was left the soldiers to meditate on the similar havoc which their own weapons were capable of. Thus the British soldier was never allowed to feel that the information which he received at home was untrue. Unfortunately the opposite was the case with the Germans, who finally wound up by rejecting everything from home as pure swindle and humbug. This result was made possible because at home they thought that the work of propaganda could be entrusted to the first ass that came along, braying of his own special talents, and they had no conception of the fact that propaganda demands the most skilled brains that can be found.

Thus the German war propaganda afforded us an incomparable example of how the work of 'enlightenment' should not be done and how such an example was the result of an entire failure to take any psychological considerations whatsoever into account.

From the enemy, however, a fund of valuable knowledge could be gained by those who kept their eyes open, whose powers of perception had not yet become sclerotic, and who during four-and-a-half years had to experience the perpetual flood of enemy propaganda.

The worst of all was that our people did not understand the very first condition which has to be fulfilled in every kind of propaganda; namely, a systematically one-sided attitude towards every problem that has to be dealt with. In this regard so many errors were committed, even from the very beginning of the war, that it was justifiable to doubt whether so much folly could be attributed solely to the stupidity of people in higher quarters.

What, for example, should we say of a poster which purported to advertise some new brand of soap by insisting on the excellent qualities of the competitive brands? We should naturally shake our heads. And it ought to be just the same in a similar kind of political advertisement. The aim of propaganda is not to try to pass judgment on conflicting rights, giving each its due, but exclusively to emphasize the right which we are asserting. Propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively and, in so far as it is favourable to the other side, present it according to the theoretical rules of justice; yet it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side.

It was a fundamental mistake to discuss the question of who was responsible for the outbreak of the war and declare that the sole responsibility could not be attributed to Germany. The sole responsibility should have been laid on the shoulders of the enemy, without any discussion whatsoever.

And what was the consequence of these half-measures? The broad masses of the people are not made up of diplomats or professors of public jurisprudence nor simply of persons who are able to form reasoned judgment in given cases, but a vacillating crowd of human children who are constantly wavering between one idea and another. As soon as our own propaganda made the slightest suggestion that the enemy had a certain amount of justice on his side, then we laid down the basis on which the justice of our own cause could be questioned. The masses are not in a position to discern where the enemy's fault ends and where our own begins. In such a case they become hesitant and distrustful, especially when the enemy does not make the same mistake but heaps all the blame on his adversary. Could there be any clearer proof of this than the fact that finally our own people believed what was said by the enemy's propaganda, which was uniform and consistent in its assertions, rather than what our own propaganda said? And that, of course, was increased by the mania for objectivity which addicts our people. Everybody began to be careful about doing an injustice to the enemy, even at the cost of seriously injuring, and even ruining his own people and State.

Naturally the masses were not conscious of the fact that those in authority had failed to study the subject from this angle.

The great majority of a nation is so feminine in its character and outlook that its thought and conduct are ruled by sentiment rather than by sober reasoning. This sentiment, however, is not complex, but simple and consistent. It is not highly differentiated, but has only the negative and positive notions of love and hatred, right and wrong, truth and falsehood. Its notions are never partly this and partly that. English propaganda especially understood this in a marvellous way and put what they understood into practice. They allowed no half-measures which might have given rise to some doubt.

Proof of how brilliantly they understood that the feeling of the masses is something primitive was shown in their policy of publishing tales of horror and outrages which fitted in with the real horrors of the time, thereby cleverly and ruthlessly preparing the ground for moral solidarity at the front, even in times of great defeats. Further, the way in which they pilloried the German enemy as solely responsible for the war--which was a brutal and absolute falsehood--and the way in which they proclaimed his guilt was excellently calculated to reach the masses, realizing that these are always extremist in their feelings. And thus it was that this atrocious lie was positively believed.

The effectiveness of this kind of propaganda is well illustrated by the fact that after four-and-a-half years, not only was the enemy still carrying on his propagandist work, but it was already undermining the stamina of our people at home.

That our propaganda did not achieve similar results is not to be wondered at, because it had the germs of inefficiency lodged in its very being by reason of its ambiguity. And because of the very nature of its content one could not expect it to make the necessary impression on the masses. Only our feckless 'statesmen' could have imagined that on pacifists slops of such a kind the enthusiasm could be nourished which is necessary to enkindle that spirit which leads men to die for their country.

And so this product of ours was not only worthless but detrimental.

No matter what an amount of talent employed in the organization of propaganda, it will have no result if due account is not taken of these fundamental principles. Propaganda must be limited to a few simple themes and these must be represented again and again. Here, as in innumerable other cases, perseverance is the first and most important condition of success.

 

Kennedy from LA is example #1.  Motherfucker graduated from motherfucking OXFORD UNIVERSITY, and he talks like Foghorn Leghorn.

[Chuckie Finster 23097]

I know logic left the debate long ago, but I'd like just one of these fuckers to be asked if "you can be punished for using campaign funds and then lying about it to cover up fucking a porn star so that you win an election" is a more dangerous precedent than "you cannot be prosecuted if you are running for office"... because the latter sure appears to be what many are arguing.

[dcbc 14645]

Every time I see WITCH HUNT, I'm reminded that this statute has been around for some time and many people have been prosecuted for violating it before Trump.

 

https://www.justsecurity.org/85605/survey-of-past-new-york-felony-prosecutions-for-falsifying-business-records/

 

There's a link to a 24 page table at the end of this short article with a list of the previous prosecution.  If it is a witch hunt, they've caught a lot of witches. 

[UpperWestside 6285]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I just heard our old buddy Steve on AM radio blathering about "Biden is literally importing sex trafficking rings" and "Biden is a Communist" and the DOJ is a "Communist tool of the fascist left-wing Deep State".  It's like a greatest hits tour when Aerosmith can barely function but they give it the old college try.

I mean look at this cretin. That’s the face of someone that’s both evil and completely lost. I will not be shocked if he offs himself within the next 5 years.

[honolulu horn 6241]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

No. It's over if they lose again and lose ground in the house or senate. Trump is a loser. The Republican party will self destruct if the lose. 

I have been saying for 8 years that the US presidential elections have been mirroring those in South Africa. Jacob Zuma was elected in SA just a few years before Trump and was a thuggish, corrupt, greedy SOB who used political capital and appealed to the uneducated masses. He tried to overthrow a re-election loss. He had supporters riot and loot. He was indicted on several serious charges and was booted out of office. Now (as of today, this minute) SA election returns show that his previous party (the ANC) will no longer have a majority -- unthinkable just a few years ago, given that it's the party of Mandela and the main Black South African's party -- because Zuma broke off and created his own MAGA-like party. He's gotten about 15% of the vote. It's destroyed the ANC majority, but has also splintered the Black South African vote tremendously. When Trump loses in November, I don't see how the same thing doesn't happen here. He'll have an idiotic MAGA party and the Republican Party will splinter. I can't wait. 

[tx 3 putt 78753]

The two dumb asses that took over for douche Limbaugh are pure comedic gold today. Lie after lie after lie …. Biden should pardon Trump, they wouldn’t let Trump testify, they didn’t let witnesses speak, Hunter Biden !!!!!, Supreme Court should step in, Republican judges never veer from outside established law, Dem judges do whatever they wan and make up law, activist judges !!!, it’ll all easily be thrown out in appeal, SEC SEC SEC !!!!, and on and on and on ….

when will a rich white man catch a break in this dem corrupted legal system !!!!!

[Dnaguy 12723]

3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

This needs to be on FoxNews ….

 

Watching this is interesting.

As crazy as he seemed AT the time, this comes across measured and with some ring of truth.

I mean, it’s weird to say, but I can see more and more why people voted for him the first time and just how flawed a candidate Hillary was and how the media + Comey propagated / enhanced the flaws

That being said, I have no empathy or understanding on those who support him now. He’s a shell of the 2016 candidate, yet the full on leader of a cult that’s overtaken the GOP. I give no quarters to the current Trump supporter. 

[RDCanecutter 26923]

1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

The two dumb asses that took over for douche Limbaugh are pure comedic gold today. Lie after lie after lie …. Biden should pardon Trump, they wouldn’t let Trump testify, they didn’t let witnesses speak, Hunter Biden !!!!!, Supreme Court should step in, Republican judges never veer from outside established law, Dem judges do whatever they wan and make up law, activist judges !!!, it’ll all easily be thrown out in appeal, SEC SEC SEC !!!!, and on and on and on ….

when will a rich white man catch a break in this dem corrupted legal system !!!!!

In their defense, if I were paid money to sit at a mic and spew shit, I'd be a shit-spewin motherfucker too. btw they left out the Knights Templar.

[jimmyjazz 47324]

2 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

I mean, it’s weird to say, but I can see more and more why people voted for him the first time and just how flawed a candidate Hillary was and how the media + Comey propagated / enhanced the flaws

It's always good to see Trump hypocrisy in the cold light of day.  Back then the FBI & James Comey were patriots acting on the best interests of the country.  Not long into office, Comey wouldn't kiss the ring and Trump fired him soon thereafter.  Now, the FBI is a Deep State cooperative police force and the agency needs to be dissolved.

[Blotto 24044]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

That toothpaste is already out of the tube. They're lost. We must beat him in November and then we can *maybe* start the healing process with those lost MAGA souls.

They can all go fuck themselves. Move to Russia, Venezuela, North Korea, I dont give a shit. But until they all admit they were conned by a dumbass orange piece of shit, I have nothing to discuss with those rubes. 

[tbone_ 14468]

Can we buy red hats with a white embroidered “0-34” on it yet?

[Dnaguy 12723]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It's always good to see Trump hypocrisy in the cold light of day.  Back then the FBI & James Comey were patriots acting on the best interests of the country.  Not long into office, Comey wouldn't kiss the ring and Trump fired him soon thereafter.  Now, the FBI is a Deep State cooperative police force and the agency needs to be dissolved.

[Chuckie Finster 23097]

3 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Watching this is interesting.

As crazy as he seemed AT the time, this comes across measured and with some ring of truth.

I mean, it’s weird to say, but I can see more and more why people voted for him the first time and just how flawed a candidate Hillary was and how the media + Comey propagated / enhanced the flaws

That being said, I have no empathy or understanding on those who support him now. He’s a shell of the 2016 candidate, yet the full on leader of a cult that’s overtaken the GOP. I give no quarters to the current Trump supporter. 

It's honestly jarring to go back and listen to his 2016 speeches.  The tone isn't much different, but the content has changed dramatically.  Back then the underlying message of every speech was "everything sucks for you, here's why I'm the only one who can fix it."  It's obviously bullshit, but there's at least some kind of campaigning for votes in there.

Now, it is literally just "here's all the bad things happening to me and why you need to let me get revenge."  That's it.  Occasionally he'll throw in a "and if they do it to me, they can do it to you" to loosely relate it to the common person, but it is remarkable how little campaigning he is doing.  It's just whining.

[Dnaguy 12723]

Just now, Chuckie Finster said:

It's honestly jarring to go back and listen to his 2016 speeches.  The tone isn't much different, but the content has changed dramatically.  Back then the underlying message of every speech was "everything sucks for you, here's why I'm the only one who can fix it."  It's obviously bullshit, but there's at least some kind of campaigning for votes in there.

Now, it is literally just "here's all the bad things happening to me and why you need to let me get revenge."  That's it.  Occasionally he'll throw in a "and if they do it to me, they can do it to you" to loosely relate it to the common person, but it is remarkable how little campaigning he is doing.  It's just whining.

He’s lost the step where he seems relatable or like able outside of the double jack off dance.

Hell his wife and youngest son can’t be bothered to be seen with him for Christ sake.

The guy is living of fumes of his 2016 success, his lack of shame, and the buoyancy of the grifter in chief lamprey  ecosystem he created.

[jimmyjazz 47324]

11 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Can we buy red hats with a white embroidered “0-34” on it yet?

Sure.  $6.20 + $5.99 delivery on Amazon.  Roll your own.  (Search for "custom MAGA hat").

 

 

Edited May 31 by jimmyjazz

[WBT 20997]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

One thing is becoming apparent - Trump and his gang did NOT expect a conviction. They really thought he was going to beat the rap.

Not telling him something he doesn't want to hear is kind of a prerequisite for being in the gang

 

[Guadaloopy 11139]

Here’s the latest I’m seeing from the duped on FB:

[Underdog 29217]

Any idea what his court record is post 2020 election?  The Washington Generals probably have a higher win % vs the Globetrotters than Trump does in court. 

[Chewbacca 7830]

1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

 

 

Trump would've been laughed off the stage in 1996.  In 2016, he was elected president.  In 2024, he has a full-blown cult following openly talking about insurrection if he doesn't win again.  All of this has very little do with Donald Trump.  He is a figurehead, a means to an end.  The machine that is running all of this, and has been for about 30 years now, will not die with Donald Trump.  And the extremely well-armed and righteously pissed off mob that they've created won't, either.

If anyone thinks Trump is going to lose in November and this country is somehow going to regain its political sanity, that's some pretty remarkable wishful thinking.

So, yeah, Trump is a symptom.  He is part of the problem, and dangerous in his own right, but he's just one head on the hydra at this point, and there will be others.

Trump is the only one that has shown the ability to lead this mob, though.  Not saying it's impossible for someone else to step in an take over, but we haven't met that person yet.  Several (Cruz, Desantis, etc) have tried to step into this role and all have failed miserably.