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36 minutes ago, miguelito said:

History classes won't exist.

They'll make a comeback, after the country revolts against Trump Jr, overthrows him, goes back to Democracy and swears never again will we do this dumb shit.

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1 hour ago, elfenix said:

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C’mon Jesus, interlock those fingers in the front.  Now squeeze like you’re feeding five thousand people with this single loaf of shit….

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1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

You could not possibly be more mistaken if you'd said that Hitler was a better candidate, and here is why: The blue-collar workers who voted for Trump in 2016 would have voted for Bernie.

I can't fathom why people don't grasp this. The minute Hillary was nominated, Trump won the election. She was, in the flesh, the embodiment of the Democrats' cozying up to big business while taking Labor's votes for granted, a trend started by her husband in '92 that continued up until Biden finally started to actively take an interest in Labor's needs during his presidency.

I don't like Michael Moore one bit, but he was the only other person I know of who caught on to this back in 2016.

Hillary would have won but for Comey’s eleven day surprise. She got 3 million more votes than Trump. That kind of thing matters in every democracy but ours.

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7 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Hillary would have won but for Comey’s eleven day surprise. She got 3 million more votes than Trump. That kind of thing matters in every democracy but ours.

This hypothesis suffers from a lack of evidence.

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1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

You could not possibly be more mistaken if you'd said that Hitler was a better candidate, and here is why: The blue-collar workers who voted for Trump in 2016 would have voted for Bernie.

I can't fathom why people don't grasp this. The minute Hillary was nominated, Trump won the election. She was, in the flesh, the embodiment of the Democrats' cozying up to big business while taking Labor's votes for granted, a trend started by her husband in '92 that continued up until Biden finally started to actively take an interest in Labor's needs during his presidency.

I don't like Michael Moore one bit, but he was the only other person I know of who caught on to this back in 2016.

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

This hypothesis suffers from a lack of evidence.

And this one doesn’t?

1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

You could not possibly be more mistaken if you'd said that Hitler was a better candidate, and here is why: The blue-collar workers who voted for Trump in 2016 would have voted for Bernie.

I can't fathom why people don't grasp this. The minute Hillary was nominated, Trump won the election. She was, in the flesh, the embodiment of the Democrats' cozying up to big business while taking Labor's votes for granted, a trend started by her husband in '92 that continued up until Biden finally started to actively take an interest in Labor's needs during his presidency.

I don't like Michael Moore one bit, but he was the only other person I know of who caught on to this back in 2016.

 

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9 hours ago, tchookem said:

Holy shit! Do I like Colin Cowherd now?

No? I just respect and appreciate his insight in this one instance?

Cool. Carry on.

Nah fuck that he doesn't get a pass. He's just another one of those Trump dickriders that's just now hopping off as it's becoming too inconvenient to be a Trump supporter. Dude was on his train from day 1 until now.

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Nah fuck that he doesn't get a pass. He's just another one of those Trump dickriders that's just now hopping off as it's becoming too inconvenient to be a Trump supporter. Dude was on his train from day 1 until now.
Was he? In that case, fuck him indeed.
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25 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

I know this seems like an obvious thing to have, but in reality the reason convicted felons aren't banned from office is to take away the incentive for an incumbent president to politically attack his challengers with false imprisonment to remove them from challenging him. It is the right call and the constitutional authors understood that. 

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What are the ny laws about felons being around other felons ???

I seriously doubt there is a law prohibiting that. There isn’t one in Texas.

There MIGHT be a standard condition of probation that would include that restriction though. In Texas, the language refers to “persons of bad reputation of character.”
I’ve never seen that enforced ever though, except MAYBE in a scenario where two felons are wanting to be roommates.
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6 hours ago, scottsins said:


I seriously doubt there is a law prohibiting that. There isn’t one in Texas.

There MIGHT be a standard condition of probation that would include that restriction though. In Texas, the language refers to “persons of bad reputation of character.”
I’ve never seen that enforced ever though, except MAYBE in a scenario where two felons are wanting to be roommates.

CSB- An old business partner of my fathers was a hit man in the mafia for 2 of the NY families.  He went to prison and when he was out on probation he was sitting in Central Park and a known mafia person jogged by him and said hello.  The feds got a picture of that and put him back in prison for associating with a known criminal.  Maybe that is federal level versus state level rules?

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NPR had a former prosecutor on a few days ago. He said a fairly compelling argument could be made that the law cited to turn the misdemeanors into felonies was a tenuous connection at best. NPR is not wont to give airtime to shills, so I assume the guy was legit.
 

I was only partly paying attention. I don’t know if he was saying that was the tack trump’s lawyers should have taken with their case to the jury, or if it is a potential avenue for appeal 

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4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

NPR had a former prosecutor on a few days ago. He said a fairly compelling argument could be made that the law cited to turn the misdemeanors into felonies was a tenuous connection at best. NPR is not wont to give airtime to shills, so I assume the guy was legit.
 

I was only partly paying attention. I don’t know if he was saying that was the tack trump’s lawyers should have taken with their case to the jury, or if it is a potential avenue for appeal 

Yes, this is the most controversial part of the case and the fact that federal prosecutors chose not to prosecute the election fraud charges the state of New York leveraged. But the tactic his lawyers should have taken was that he paid off Daniels because of the harm that it would cause his family and marriage. But Trump only knows one way.

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20 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

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LoL I don’t know which side of the ledger Georgia falls on, but I guarangotdamntee you NY would be totally cool giving up all federal funding if it meant keeping what their state contributes to federal revenue.  

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On 6/1/2024 at 8:37 AM, Thrawn said:

Had the weirdest dream last night. For some reason I was watching the election results in a public area here in OKC.  After Biden was declared the winner I started with the fist pumps and "Fuck Yeahs!". A news person saw me and came up to me to stick a camera in my face. Asked me something then I popped back with "Sic semper tyrannis". "This is how we deal with tyrants in the land of the free!"

I started getting booed by the magats around me, so I threw out another "Fuck Yeah!" and started flipping everyone the bird and calling them losers. I was obviously very gracious in victory.

Dream ended there. No idea if I made it out alive. However, if I find my self out in public on election night I already know the script.

In reality, I plan on making sure I'm sitting on my couch drinking bourbon in victory or defeat.

You didn’t make it out. Thats why you woke up. They tore you to pieces. I’ve seen Inception. 

20 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

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As others have said, lol, NY is a net giver in taxes. 

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I'm so sick of fake videos, like that AI generated Trump campaign speech in Georgia in which he's saying we should lock up Hillary and the Bidens.  You can't trust anything you see any more.

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37 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

NPR had a former prosecutor on a few days ago. He said a fairly compelling argument could be made that the law cited to turn the misdemeanors into felonies was a tenuous connection at best. NPR is not wont to give airtime to shills, so I assume the guy was legit.
 

I was only partly paying attention. I don’t know if he was saying that was the tack trump’s lawyers should have taken with their case to the jury, or if it is a potential avenue for appeal 

The most fertile ground for appeal, I think, is that jurors were given a choice of "predicate" offenses and were not instructed to agree on which one it was.  See Jury Instructions, starting at page 28.  https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/People v. DJT Jury Instructions and Charges FINAL 5-23-24.pdf  Specifically:

Although you must conclude unanimously that the defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means, you need not be unanimous as to what those unlawful means were. In determining whether the defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means, you may consider the following unlawful means: (1) violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act otherwise known as FECA; (2) the falsification of other business records; or (3) violation of tax laws.

The choice stems from the fact that the actual "another crime" is NEW YORK ELECTION LAW § 17-152, which is as follows:

Any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means and which conspiracy is acted upon by one or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

The predicates 1, 2, and 3 are unlawful means.  So we have a triple nesting of statutes here.

That could potentially be a legal error that results in remand for a new trial.  It is about the only aspect of the case and jury instructions that wasn't well-settled in NY law, at least as far as I know or can tell from reportage etc.

People are doing a lot of spewing about evidentiary rulings, letting Stormy Daniels and Access Hollywood stuff in, keeping Trump's legal expert out.  I don't think those are going anywhere.

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Now we're getting somewhere...
Surely's first crowdsourced film script.

No fucking way am I being left out of this grift. I get the revenue from popcorn buckets that look like a mushroom dick.
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I wonder how many voters know that Trump owes the state of New York half a billion dollars, because massive fraud. Hell I had almost forgotten about it, between E. Jean Carroll and the whole paying hush money to a porn star thing.

 

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11 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The piss is making that sign look better.  Trump's obsession with gilded bling is legendary and grotesque.

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Why do I seem to hear "The Ecstasy of Gold" playing in the background?  Damn you donald JAIL trump, that is one of my favorite pieces of music(especially by the Danish national choir).

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8 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

House painting business?

I never heard that term until "the Irishman" movie.  And then Colin Jost at the White House Correspondent's dinner the other night made a funny wisecrack that his father literally had a side business of painting houses, but actually painting them...not murdering people.  

My "Uncle" Jimmy was my father's lifelong friend.  He just died a few years ago after serving yet another stretch in prison.  "Uncle" Jimmy D. was married to one of Sam Giancana's daughters.  Speaking of the Mafia, Sam ran Chicago for many years from capo to acting boss to boss.  Uncle Jimmy would remark to my father he was "making models."  I came to realize he meant he was making a model out of guys that did something wrong.  My father and his family kept Jimmy safe in prison for many, many years.  They bribed other prisoners with canteen money, paid off guards to look the other way or offer special protection, because Uncle Jimmy had a lot of victim's families that weren't too happy with him.  It was how I learned, later in life, you can get to people in prison.  Obviously Trump is never seeing the inside of a jail cell, ever.  And even if he did, nothing is gonna happen to him with that security detail.  But I did learn from their mechanism that you can make people suffer in custody, so long as they're not the former President of the U.S.  To this day, 2 cholas that served with Jenna Ryan in the clink show up to her open houses to let her know she's still on their radar.  All because they were taken care of financially in lockup.  

But yeah, this fucking guy.  He's never gonna see the inside of a cell.  But good news is, you can tell from the last couple of weeks...his body is eating itself from the inside.  And it's wonderful.  

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3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

When’s his first drug test ?

Speaking of, when he demands Joe get a drug test for the debates, Joe just needs to say, “well, we already know the results of his, since they were mandated by his PO”. 

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Its time for the Dems to play by Pub rules.  Schumer needs to bring a string of laws up for vote regarding felons.  One proposal every week till November. Make pubs vote against proposals regarding  crime and felons in government.
1.  Proposal to make it illegal for felons to obtain security clearance at any level.
2.  Proposal to ban felons from serving  at any level in an administration or congress.
3.  Proposal to ban felons from being on Air Force 1, Marine 1, or any government vehicles unless handcuffed.
4.  Drug test and full body cavity search each time a felon attempts to enter White House. 
 
“ Pubs = Weak on Crime. Party of Criminals !!”

I love this idea
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5 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

My "Uncle" Jimmy was my father's lifelong friend.  He just died a few years ago after serving yet another stretch in prison.  "Uncle" Jimmy D. was married to one of Sam Giancana's daughters.  Speaking of the Mafia, Sam ran Chicago for many years from capo to acting boss to boss.  Uncle Jimmy would remark to my father he was "making models."  I came to realize he meant he was making a model out of guys that did something wrong.  My father and his family kept Jimmy safe in prison for many, many years.  They bribed other prisoners with canteen money, paid off guards to look the other way or offer special protection, because Uncle Jimmy had a lot of victim's families that weren't too happy with him.  It was how I learned, later in life, you can get to people in prison.  Obviously Trump is never seeing the inside of a jail cell, ever.  And even if he did, nothing is gonna happen to him with that security detail.  But I did learn from their mechanism that you can make people suffer in custody, so long as they're not the former President of the U.S.  To this day, 2 cholas that served with Jenna Ryan in the clink show up to her open houses to let her know she's still on their radar.  All because they were taken care of financially in lockup.  

 

I read this post in Henry Hill’s voice from Goodfellas

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