Caitlin Clark …. Seriously

[immamac 41751]

46 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Derka, stop with the “oMg, hOw dO YaLL noT gEt it” diatribe. It’s stupid. No one is saying that they don’t get what you’re saying. Not once have I said Clark hasn’t had an impact on the league in a positive way because she has. (And if I did say that on this thread or others, I take that back because it’s not what I meant). Yes, she’s causes a new “set” of fans to pay attention to the league. Yes, it’s positive, and yes I’ve wondered how other players don’t see this as a positive as well.

However, 

My argument on these threads has always been and still stands—there have been badass players similar to Clark in this league for decades, why is it her that has caused a certain “set” of fans to start paying attention and garner interest? Why didn’t they garner interest with players like Aja Wilson, Candace Parker, Taurasi, Delle Donne, Kelsey Plum, Sue Bird, Ionescu, Arika, Skyler and many more—and this doesn’t even include Swoopes, Leslie, Catchings, Cooper (Still a fucking bitch which is why i t’d her ass up every time when i reffed at TSU), and more. So far the consensus is because she’s a.) White (which I’ve argued there have been ton of badass White players in the WNBA before why this White one now) and b.) she shoots like Steph, which is a fine argument by me because that’s what basketball (regardless of gender or level) seems to be now.

Both arguments can be true at the same time. As I’ve said before, I’ve given Clark props before and I’ll most likely do it again. 

 

No, a hyperbolic hypothetical doesn’t mean you’re losing the argument. I’m not sure where you got this from. 

I've told you this over and over again as well. It has nothing to do with the sports part of this. Basketball is tangential to CC at this point. She's not famous because of basketball, basketball is getting attention because she's famous. 

It started with basketball. She was fun to watch and was an exciting player on the court. Then people talked to her and saw her personality, her drive, her competitive nature without being overwhelming or making it the only part of her personality and her success. People like winners and she figured out a way to win everywhere including on the court and when she didn't she was absolutely in a believable way able to articulate her desire to become better to win the next time. 

Explaining fame to you seems like I'm patronizing you, because I know you know what fame is. 

She's famous for being famous right now, not famous for being a basketball player. 

[BurntOrange&White 38890]

5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Will they talk about women’s basketball or just why isn’t Clark playing? Because women’s basketball as a whole isn’t being talked about here—it’s just her.  

Which is more than women's basketball gets, period. Oh and they will be talking about Clark regardless

[TonyTexas 10433]

19 minutes ago, immamac said:

She's famous for being famous right now,

Like the Kardashians? Ironically, they also have a Caitlin in the family. 

[BurntOrange&White 38890]

5 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Like the Kardashians? Ironically, they also have a Caitlin in the family. 

Caitlin is elite athlete

[Pancho 43019]

27 minutes ago, immamac said:

 

It started with basketball. She was fun to watch and was an exciting player on the court. Then people talked to her and saw her personality, her drive, her competitive nature without being overwhelming or making it the only part of her personality and her success. People like winners and she figured out a way to win everywhere including on the court and when she didn't she was absolutely in a believable way able to articulate her desire to become better to win the next time. 

 

 

You described Aja Wilson too, and she won a NC something Clark didn’t. 

Why isn’t she getting the same “fame?”

[BurntOrange&White 38890]

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

You described Aja Wilson too, and she won a NC something Clark didn’t. 

Why isn’t she getting the same “fame?”

Because she's black!

Is that what you want people to say? 

 

 

The WNBA women overall need to do better and build upon the gift that has been handed to them by Clark. It doesn't matter who or how they've blown up but the opportunity is now for them. It is a key time in the growth of women's basketball and they'd rather be petty ass bitches and handle the press they give in a manner that isn't conducive to long term growth. 

Edited June 10 by BurntOrange&White

[Pancho 43019]

6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Because she's black!

 

 

No. You brought that up, not me.

I could have said Sabrina or Breanna (White women) as examples but they aren’t better than Aja. 

Kelsey Plum too—she had decent success in college and speaks well off the court, often talking about improving and getting better all the time. Why doesn’t she have the same “fame”?”

[immamac 41751]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

 

You described Aja Wilson too, and she won a NC something Clark didn’t. 

Why isn’t she getting the same “fame?”

I didn't describe Aja Wilson. She's not famous. No one gives a fuck about Aja Wilson outside of the fan base of women's basketball which last time anyone checked was extremely limited to the point of it being very possible that it's counted in thousands still instead of millions. I don't even know who she is, what she looks like, what awards she's won, who she played for in college, what brand she wore on her draft day. 

I know all those things about Caitlyn Clark and I fucking hate women's basketball. 

People don't give a fuck about the basketball. They care about the story, the personality, the aura, the marketability.

I in particular cared because of the NIL component for obvious reasons. Seeing how this develops and takes form with the compensation model was fascinating to me. Livy Dunn is less fascinating, she's just an Internet thot who plays gymnast in college. 

Arch Manning hasn't played shit for football in college and yet he's more famous, has more brand value and will ultimately be covered more by everyone that cares about football than at least 120 of the other starting FBS quarterbacks. How is this hard for you to understand? Arch hasn't done shit. He's famous. 

 

[BurntOrange&White 38890]

Just now, Pancho said:

 

No. You brought that up, not me.

I could have said Sabrina or Breanna (White women) as examples but they aren’t better than Aja. 

Suuuuuuure. You could have said them but most of your examples are black players. You're literally just trying to race bait without going all in on race baiting so you can reply exactly like you just did.

[statsman 5355]

I get it. I see what the WNBA players are doing, and why. They work hard and this rookie is getting all this undeserved attention, endorsements and acclaim, without earning it yet. 
 
Those girls need to do what Isaiah Thomas organized the East team to do in the 1985 all star game and put that rookie in her place, by freezing her out. 😂

[immamac 41751]

3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

No. You brought that up, not me.

I could have said Sabrina or Breanna (White women) as examples but they aren’t better than Aja. 

Kelsey Plum too—she had decent success in college and speaks well off the court, often talking about improving and getting better all the time. Why doesn’t she have the same “fame”?”

Because fame is bestowed upon you by the corporate overlords, media and the masses. It's not earned. 

[Pancho 43019]

9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

 

The WNBA women overall need to do better and build upon the gift that has been handed to them by Clark. It doesn't matter who or how they've blown up but the opportunity is now for them. It is a key time in the growth of women's basketball 

 

Who is disagreeing with this? yall keep saying “why can’t you see this!” And I’m not seeing people who disagree.

 

I am seeing people say “that’s true, and there are others who deserve accolades as well.” 

[idigTexas 2257]

50 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Which is what I’ve said before—if you put her on on the team because of what certain posters here have argued that she’s the face of the league and because it would generate millions of new “sets” of watchers, what happens when she just doesn’t nothing but sit on the bench for most of the games or only plays in blowouts of Croatia or Denmark or North Haverbrook?

 

Then what?

Then millions of new watchers might see that there is more to women's basketball than Clark...or they may get bored and switch to watch the equestrian competition, which they will do anyway if Clark isn't there.  Everyone knows that there are dozens of players who are more deserving of being on the team for basketball reasons.  I expect that will change for the next Olympic team, but why wait to leverage Clark's popularity?  

[Pancho 43019]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Suuuuuuure. You could have said them but most of your examples are black players. You're literally just trying to race bait without going all in on race baiting so you can reply exactly like you just did.

No, and you deserve a warning for this. No one is “race baiting’ whatever the fuck that is. I’ve routinely brought up Plum, Stewart, and Ionescu. 

Your friend Chrispy said Stewart wasn’t worth rooting for because while she’s White she’s a lesbian.

[BurntOrange&White 38890]

Just now, Pancho said:

No, and you deserve a warning for this. No one is “race baiting’ whatever the fuck that is. I’ve routinely brought up Plum, Stewart, and Ionescu. 

Your friend Chrispy said Stewart wasn’t worth rooting for because while she’s White she’s a lesbian.

A warning for calling you out? Yeah, okay dude. Sorry I'm just calling you out for your bullshit 

[Pancho 43019]

4 minutes ago, immamac said:

I didn't describe Aja Wilson. She's not famous. No one gives a fuck about Aja Wilson

 

This isn’t true. You’re downplaying this on purpose. Your exact words were:

Then people talked to her and saw her personality, her drive, her competitive nature without being overwhelming or making it the only part of her personality and her success. People like winners and she figured out a way to win everywhere including on the court and when she didn't she was absolutely in a believable way able to articulate her desire to become better to win the next time. 

 

 Yes, that 100% describes Aja Wilson. It can also describe Clark. It can be both and not just 1 specific person.

[Pancho 43019]

3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

A warning for calling you out? Yeah, okay dude. Sorry I'm just calling you out for your bullshit 

There is no bullshit. You pulled race bating (whatever the fuck that is) out of your ass. You were the one who used race. I’ve routinely brought up Ionescu, Plum, Stewart, Whalen, and other White women into this conversation. That’s not my fault you can’t pick up on that. 

[Pancho 43019]

4 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

Then millions of new watchers might see that there is more to women's basketball than Clark...or they may get bored and switch to watch the equestrian competition, which they will do anyway if Clark isn't there.  Everyone knows that there are dozens of players who are more deserving of being on the team for basketball reasons.  I expect that will change for the next Olympic team, but why wait to leverage Clark's popularity?  

 

You’re making a great point which is why I said earlier—if you put her on the team and she doesn’t’ play, then what happens? Do people get mad she isn’t playing and demand that she play more? Do they accept it and watch anyway? 

[Pancho 43019]

 

14 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Suuuuuuure. You could have said them but most of your examples are black players. You're literally just trying to race bait without going all in on race baiting so you can reply exactly like you just did.

“Most” of the women below are Black?

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

Why didn’t they garner interest with players like Aja Wilson, Candace Parker, Taurasi, Delle Donne, Kelsey Plum, Sue Bird, Ionescu, Arika, Skyler

 

[closetohumping 17302]

Why does Ja Morant sell more jerseys than Nikola Jokic?  Ja plays in a very small market and actually hasn’t really played in the last two years?

 

like Asia Wilson, most people believe that Joker is the best player in their league
 

[immamac 41751]

11 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

This isn’t true. You’re downplaying this on purpose. Your exact words were:

Then people talked to her and saw her personality, her drive, her competitive nature without being overwhelming or making it the only part of her personality and her success. People like winners and she figured out a way to win everywhere including on the court and when she didn't she was absolutely in a believable way able to articulate her desire to become better to win the next time. 

 

 Yes, that 100% describes Aja Wilson. It can also describe Clark. It can be both and not just 1 specific person.

Yeah I said that's how it started. Then I said I wasn't going to patronize you and explain fame. Now I guess I have to and explain fame to you.

The Island Boys are famous, yet a bunch of other significantly more talented and probably even more clown show people are not. 

Jackie Chan is famous, yet a bunch of other martial artists who are better than him, speak better English and Chinese than him and who are far more attractive to him are not. 

Dave Portnoy is famous, he's a shithead vlogger who isn't even that good at vlogging, content creation, talent acquisition, advertising, or anything to do with barstool and there are others who are very good at it and are not. 

Kim Kardashian is famous. She's famous for being famous, no one even knows what she does other than be famous. There are millions, perhaps billions of people better than her and they are not. 

Neil deGrass Tyson is famous. He's not that great at explaining physics compared to others, he's a huge dweeb and has problematic opinions. There are many more physicists who are better at everything, are more well respected have more published papers and they are not. 

Stormy Daniels is famous. She's not even a hot pornstar and her scenes for the most part were actual garbage. There are a lot hotter women who are way better at fucking on camera who have done a lot more shoots who are not. 

Want me to keep going? Can do this all day on famous vs not famous. 

 

 

[BurntOrange&White 38890]

[Pancho 43019]

3 minutes ago, immamac said:

Yeah I said that's how it started. Then I said I wasn't going to patronize you and explain fame. Now I guess I have to and explain fame to you.

The Island Boys are famous, yet a bunch of other significantly more talented and probably even more clown show people are not. 

Jackie Chan is famous, yet a bunch of other martial artists who are better than him, speak better English and Chinese than him and who are far more attractive to him are not. 

Dave Portnoy is famous, he's a shithead vlogger who isn't even that good at vlogging, content creation, talent acquisition, advertising, or anything to do with barstool and there are others who are very good at it and are not. 

Kim Kardashian is famous. She's famous for being famous, no one even knows what she does other than be famous. There are millions, perhaps billions of people better than her and they are not. 

Neil deGrass Tyson is famous. He's not that great at explaining physics compared to others, he's a huge dweeb and has problematic opinions. There are many more physicists who are better at everything, are more well respected have more published papers and they are not. 

Stormy Daniels is famous. She's not even a hot pornstar and her scenes for the most part were actual garbage. There are a lot hotter women who are way better at fucking on camera who have done a lot more shoots who are not. 

Want me to keep going? Can do this all day on famous vs not famous. 

 

 

I know 2 of those people. 

You’ve already answered the question—you said fame is from corporations and media. I don’t disagree, that helps. Aja got none of that. Where I disagree with you is saying Aja isn’t well known. She is. She didn’t get the stuff Clark is getting, and that has been my question from the jump—why not. Or Why didn’t Ionescu when she was making crazy ass Steph shots in college and had Kobe promoting her?

That’s it. 

[closetohumping 17302]

8 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What team do these gals play for?

[closetohumping 17302]

7 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I know 2 of those people. 

You’ve already answered the question—you said fame is from corporations and media. I don’t disagree, that helps. Aja got none of that. Where I disagree with you is saying Aja isn’t well known. She is. She didn’t get the stuff Clark is getting, and that has been my question from the jump—why not. Or Why didn’t Ionescu when she was making crazy ass Steph shots in college and had Kobe promoting her?

That’s it. 

Why does Tyrese maxey sell more jerseys than doncic?

[Pancho 43019]

1 minute ago, closetohumping said:

Why does Tyrese maxey sell more jerseys than doncic?

Um, 

 

and…

 

[immamac 41751]

10 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I know 2 of those people. 

You’ve already answered the question—you said fame is from corporations and media. I don’t disagree, that helps. Aja got none of that. Where I disagree with you is saying Aja isn’t well known. She is. She didn’t get the stuff Clark is getting, and that has been my question from the jump—why not. Or Why didn’t Ionescu when she was making crazy ass Steph shots in college and had Kobe promoting her?

That’s it. 

You only know 2 of that list of famous people? 

I want to make fun of you now. Who on that list did you not know? 

[Pancho 43019]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

You only know 2 of that list of famous people? 

I want to make fun of you now. Who on that list did you not know? 

I’m joking boss.

Tailgate soon?

[closetohumping 17302]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

Um, 

 

and…

 

So why does Tyrese maxey sell more jerseys than the joker?  I spelled doncic but meant Jokic 

 

segway

 

why does wemby sell more jerseys than doncic and Jokic? 

[BurntOrange&White 38890]

5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I know 2 of those people. 

You’ve already answered the question—you said fame is from corporations and media. I don’t disagree, that helps. Aja got none of that. Where I disagree with you is saying Aja isn’t well known. She is. She didn’t get the stuff Clark is getting, and that has been my question from the jump—why not. Or Why didn’t Ionescu when she was making crazy ass Steph shots in college and had Kobe promoting her?

That’s it. 

You just need to look at this similar to how when Tiger came into golf and the sports popularity blew up. WNBA is just now experiencing their media blow up. Those who came before just weren't there at the right time. It's that simple. 

 

Also the rookies and some girls still in college have larger followings than A'ja on social media. Reese, Clark, Brink, HVL, Bueckers, etc all have more IG followers than A'ja and they probably do a much better job of marketing themselves more. 

 

Finally, throw in that the players coming into the WNBA now have grown up with NIL and self marketing where as A'ja went through college without it. I'd guarantee you if A'ja was allowed NIL and etc she'd be much bigger superstar outside the game than now. 

9 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

What team do these gals play for?

That is Griner's little sisters

[idigTexas 2257]

26 minutes ago, Pancho said:

You’re making a great point which is why I said earlier—if you put her on the team and she doesn’t’ play, then what happens? Do people get mad she isn’t playing and demand that she play more? Do they accept it and watch anyway? 

We won't know unless/until it happens.  One thing we do know is that people who would only tune in if Clark is on the team won't be tuning in if she isn't.  I wish she deserved a spot for basketball reasons, but she isn't there yet.  I think if you are more interested in growing the sport than you are the optics of putting a less deserving player on the squad, then you find a way to add her.  Then you let her bring focus to the great players who earned their spots, which is what she would do, as that's who she is.  Or, we can just wait four more years and miss out on who knows how much international interest and money.      

[Pancho 43019]

7 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

So why does Tyrese maxey sell more jerseys than the joker?  I spelled doncic but meant Jokic 

 

segway

 

why does wemby sell more jerseys than doncic and Jokic? 

 

I don’t know. I don’t have that data in front of me. Do you have access to the breakdown of data from jersey sales because I sure don’t. 

[closetohumping 17302]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

 

I don’t know. I don’t have that data in front of me. Do you have access to the breakdown of data from jersey sales because I sure don’t. 

I mean you just posted the jersey sales link?  Ja has played like 40 games in two years and he is outselling joker?   

[Pancho 43019]

2 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I mean you just posted the jersey sales link?  Ja has played like 40 games in two years and he is outselling joker?   

The links don’t give a breakdown in data, closetohumping. I posted those because you said Maxey outsold Luka and he clearly doesn’t. 

That’s all. 

[closetohumping 17302]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

The links don’t give a breakdown in data, closetohumping. I posted those because you said Maxey outsold Luka and he clearly doesn’t. 

That’s all. 

I meant Jokic. I blame it being super early here in California or the auto correct feature.  But thanks for the link.  Kind of odd that joker and doncic are so low in jersey sales considering how good they are

[Buzzrock 14785]

All the debating is fun because that’s what sports fans do, but it comes down to a decision: do you want to field the team that draws the most eyeballs, or the team with the best stats? Both teams will win gold easily. What do you do?

[Blotto 23293]

7 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Kind of odd that joker and doncic are so low in jersey sales considering how good they are

Because men over the age of 18 that choose to wear  a jersey with another mans name on the back are probably developmentally challenged and certainly not capable of making the proper choices in life. 

[closetohumping 17302]

6 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Because men over the age of 18 that choose to wear  a jersey with another mans name on the back are probably developmentally challenged and certainly not capable of making the proper choices in life. 

Should I remove my Aja Wilson jersey before I go to Wal mart then?

[Blotto 23293]

1 minute ago, closetohumping said:

Should I remove my Aja Wilson jersey before I go to Wal mart then?

Yes, you should ditch the Wilson jersey and probably also the Caitin Clark line of crotchless panties.

[BurntOrange&White 38890]

13 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

All the debating is fun because that’s what sports fans do, but it comes down to a decision: do you want to field the team that draws the most eyeballs, or the team with the best stats? Both teams will win gold easily. What do you do?

Catilin Clark is having a better season stat wise than Turasi.

[Pancho 43019]

30 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

I actually bought a Clark jersey for the little girl in our life. 

It's the WNBA version of this:

 

 

This is a bad analogy. There was never a Black Ariel.

There have been countless White WNBA players since the league started. 

[d2o 1602]

Is CC really "growing the game" if the majority of her fans are openly stating that they don't care about anyone else?   If they are adamantly stating they dont/wont watch anyone else?   If they are labeling all of the other players, including her teammates, as "petty", "jealous" or "talentless bitches"?

Sports has never worked the way many of you are expecting this to.   It seems as if you all want the league and all of its players to just defer or even worship CC.   At some point, the player has to win and dominate.   She can get her endorsements and money sure but to get respect from those in her field she has to win.

Tiger was mentioned but Tiger came in fucking shit up.   Golf is an individual sport anyway so its different but even then the other players had issue with him and his exposure.

MJ wasnt really the face of the league until he started winning.   Many media members and players questioned if his style of play could actually lead to winning all the way up until the yr he finally won.

[TommysTinyTowels 779]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

 

You described Aja Wilson too, and she won a NC something Clark didn’t. 

Why isn’t she getting the same “fame?”

Real question / not attacking / would like to hear your opinion.

Why is Clark getting all this when those before did not?

[Pancho 43019]

19 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Just caught up on the last few pages. @Pancho you are giving gatekeeper vibes like that one guy who knew the band before they blew up and made it big and "sold out" and now has a ton of fans who can't name every song on their indie LP from 3 years ago. 

We get it, you are one of the hundreds (HUNDREDS! /meme) who appreciated, followed, and knew WNBA basketball pre-Caitlin Clark. But times, they are a-changing; new fans, new bandwagon, etc. The rubes have discovered WNBA, for at least this cycle, so please accept one of two things.

1) The new rules which are that all the new fans/eyeballs/money are saying that Caitlin Clark is America's sweetheart and we care more about her than any other pre-existing WNBA league players, irrespective of color, skill, style, sexual preference, etc. or

2) your referencing of legacy WNBA players, who I am sure are great people and finely skilled, that most people at best have a vague recollection of or at worst, have never heard of, is doing nothing. It's worse than nothing, because it makes you look out of touch and/or disingenuous.

Just read immac's posts a couple of more times, he's telling you the way it IS, not the way it OUGHT to be.

 

No, I’m not giving gatekeeper vibes. You’re just making that up. 

How is I giving props to past and current players while simultaneously giving props to Clark coming off as out of touch or disingenuous? Both having impact on the game can be true at the same time. 

 

[Pancho 43019]

Just now, BeardIP said:

Not just white, though. America Sweetheart White.

 

I just don’t know what that means or what you’re culturally insinuating. Clark is White just like Breanna Stewart, Kelsey Plum, or Lindsay Whalen. 

[Pancho 43019]

3 minutes ago, TommysTinyTowels said:

Real question / not attacking / would like to hear your opinion.

Why is Clark getting all this when those before did not?

 

This is the question I’ve been asking because I really don’t know. Instead I’ve been told I’m race-baiting, disingenuous, weird, triggered, and just now had one of my posts reported for “embarrassing my race.”

 

To be honest, the one poster (forgot who it was) who gave a pretty decent answer was that she shoots/plays like Steph and that’s entertaining. That is an answer I can 100% accept because that’s what basketball is nowadays. The only thing I would say was Ionescu was shooting like that years ago but didn’t garner the same hype/attention although Kobe was hyping her up. Was she ahead of her time just 7-8 years ago?

[Underdog 28231]

1 hour ago, Blotto said:

Because men over the age of 18 that choose to wear  a jersey with another mans name on the back are probably developmentally challenged and certainly not capable of making the proper choices in life. 

Just come try to take this Tom Boerwinkle  jersey off me, MFers! 

[closetohumping 17302]

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

This is the question I’ve been asking because I really don’t know. Instead I’ve been told I’m race-baiting, disingenuous, weird, triggered, and just now had one of my posts reported for “embarrassing my race.”

 

To be honest, the one poster (forgot who it was) who gave a pretty decent answer was that she shoots/plays like Steph and that’s entertaining. That is an answer I can 100% accept because that’s what basketball is nowadays. The only thing I would say was Ionescu was shooting like that years ago but didn’t garner the same hype/attention although Kobe was hyping her up. Was she ahead of her time just 7-8 years ago?

She reminds me a bit of Steph and pistol Pete.  I’ve said that repeatedly.  Her style of play is pretty cool.  It’s not because she’s white or hot. IMO it’s not racial

Just now, Underdog said:

Just come try to take this Tom Boerwinkle  jersey off me, MFers! 

Shrunk in wash and you’re a fat. Not possible 

[Pam Cummings 9424]

She should be on the Olympic team what are we talking about. I mean I guess she could use the rest but we all know that the end of the roster has always been a little political anyways. It was a layup of a decision and they blew it plain and simple.

 

Dan Patrick had the right idea. She should have been given a spot like Laettner with the dream team. Best college player of that year. 

Edited June 10 by Pam Cummings

[closetohumping 17302]

5 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

She should be on the Olympic team what are we talking about. I mean I guess she could use the rest but we all know that the end of the roster has always been a little political anyways. It was a layup of a decision and they blew it plain and simple.

 

Dan Patrick had the right idea. She should have been given a spot like Laettner with the dream team. Best college player of that year. 

I wouldn’t object to it.   She’s a great passer and shooter.  Jrue holiday, Bam, Haliburton are on the men’s team.  Are they among the 12 best?  Kawhi is on the team too.  
 

I think Clark needs a break though.  She’s probably exhausted