2023 Houston Rockets Offseason Thread - Time to Start Thinking About Winning Again

[Rockethorn1978 6072]

Obviously we should have taken Mobley but last year we were 3rd and smith was the take and any other team at 3 would have taken smith. Who was after smith that we should have taken? Ivey? My issue is what we do with guys like porter and other roster moves. I have zero confidence fertits or stone will hire the right guy to take this team over.

[WBT 20560]

On 4/9/2023 at 9:47 PM, BigOrange1 said:

Names that have been mentioned as possible candidates include Nick Nurse, Ime Udoka, Kenny Atkinson, and Scott Brooks.  

 

On 4/14/2023 at 9:54 AM, Rip76 said:

Sam Cassell interviewing for HC spot.

Damn, what's Kenny have to do to get a look?

[Rockethorn1978 6072]

Fuck Scott brooks. I’d be all over Ime and second for me is Nick nurse. 

[Wulaw Horn 19063]

42 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Obviously we should have taken Mobley but last year we were 3rd and smith was the take and any other team at 3 would have taken smith. Who was after smith that we should have taken? Ivey? My issue is what we do with guys like porter and other roster moves. I have zero confidence fertits or stone will hire the right guy to take this team over.

I wanted Ivey. 

[HtownHorn 14663]

46 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Obviously we should have taken Mobley but last year we were 3rd and smith was the take and any other team at 3 would have taken smith. Who was after smith that we should have taken? Ivey? My issue is what we do with guys like porter and other roster moves. I have zero confidence fertits or stone will hire the right guy to take this team over.

Mobley was never coming here as long as Porter was on the roster. Mobley's brother and Porter didn't like each other at USC. It's why he told the organization he wouldn't even come for a workout. Green and Smith are fine, they just need a star to play with.

[Rockethorn1978 6072]

8 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Mobley was never coming here as long as Porter was on the roster. Mobley's brother and Porter didn't like each other at USC. It's why he told the organization he wouldn't even come for a workout. Green and Smith are fine, they just need a star to play with.

I don’t think there’s that much of a difference for anyone to say we picked the wrong guys. So I’m fine with our selections. Some of the contract extension are bad and I don’t think stone is a good gm that will build a roster long term.

[Wulaw Horn 19063]

12 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I don’t think there’s that much of a difference for anyone to say we picked the wrong guys. So I’m fine with our selections. Some of the contract extension are bad and I don’t think stone is a good gm that will build a roster long term.

Taking green is a huge miss.  Mobley is going to be an absolute star. 

Edited April 16, 2023 by Wulaw Horn

[Rockethorn1978 6072]

7 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Monkey green is a huge miss.  Mobley is going to be an absolute star. 

[Wulaw Horn 19063]

48 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

He’s averaging 16/9/3 on 56% shooting and playing all nba level defense as a 21 year old and the most important player on a top 6 or 8 team in the NBA. That’s the profile of a guy that’s going to be an absolute star first team all nba type. 

[Rockethorn1978 6072]

54 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

He’s averaging 16/9/3 on 56% shooting and playing all nba level defense as a 21 year old and the most important player on a top 6 or 8 team in the NBA. That’s the profile of a guy that’s going to be an absolute star first team all nba type. 

Yeah I know I was talking about your typing error of your post. haha

[ChickenSandwich 9824]

3 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Taking green is a huge miss.  Mobley is going to be an absolute star. 

Not ready to give up on Green. He skipped college for the G league and has “trained” with the Rockets team for two years. 
 

He hasn't been developed since he was a senior in HS, and has been playing glorified AAU ball the last three years. 
 

Hopefully they find a coach who can put the systems in place to develop talent

[Wulaw Horn 19063]

22 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Not ready to give up on Green. He skipped college for the G league and has “trained” with the Rockets team for two years. 
 

He hasn't been developed since he was a senior in HS, and has been playing glorified AAU ball the last three years. 
 

Hopefully they find a coach who can put the systems in place to develop talent

All that’s true. And he might be very good. But Mobley is going to be special- thats what I meant by taking Green being a mistake. 

[ChickenSandwich 9824]

Mobley is special, but I think he turns out to be a better Ayton and not a #1 option on a title team. He’s a little soft right now. 
 

Rockets were rolling the dice on upside and I agree with their assessment that Green could have a higher ceiling than Mobley in today’s NBA. (Even if never reached). Same reason I would have drafted Chet. Shoot for the moon. 

[billfromlaketravis 11445]

I’m good with Green over Mobley. Mobley has always been on a much better team. Green averaging north of 23 points this season is pretty impressive. 

[BigOrange1 6432]

here is a piece of good news.  we officially don't have to start sweating until pick #6 on lottery night:

...but they lose the flip with the warriors and heat for the clippers pick so that one will be #20:

 

[TonyTexas 10504]

All that whining about the Rockets blowing the tank at the end of the season was for nada. But that’s what Surly does best. Bitch about hypotheticals. 

[BigOrange1 6432]

i'm a fan of this development

 

[HtownHorn 14663]

1 hour ago, BigOrange1 said:

i'm a fan of this development

 

This shouldn't be a long interview. The 1st question, do you want the job. If the answer is yes, you end the interview and make an announcement.

[Murfdogg21 4412]

16 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

This shouldn't be a long interview. The 1st question, do you want the job. If the answer is yes, you end the interview and make an announcement.

Q2. Will you avoid banging other front office people’s wives while you’re here?

[Wulaw Horn 19063]

On 4/16/2023 at 11:08 AM, ChickenSandwich said:

Mobley is special, but I think he turns out to be a better Ayton and not a #1 option on a title team. He’s a little soft right now. 
 

Rockets were rolling the dice on upside and I agree with their assessment that Green could have a higher ceiling than Mobley in today’s NBA. (Even if never reached). Same reason I would have drafted Chet. Shoot for the moon. 

Agree completely on Chet. I’d have done whatever I could to move up and get him. 

[Ignatius 4017]

1 hour ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Q2. Will you avoid banging other front office people’s wives while you’re here?

And if the answer is “No”, you still hire him and fire any front office people with remotely attractive wives…

[HtownHorn 14663]

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Agree completely on Chet. I’d have done whatever I could to move up and get him. 

Zion Williamson laughs at Chet's ability to stay healthy.

[Wulaw Horn 19063]

2 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Zion Williamson laughs at Chet's ability to stay healthy.

Sample size of 1 right now not looking awesome for Chet- but he okayed all season at Zaga didn’t he?

[HtownHorn 14663]

Just now, Wulaw Horn said:

Sample size of 1 right now not looking awesome for Chet- but he okayed all season at Zaga didn’t he?

You are comparing apples and oranges. This is my big worry about Wembanyama. I am still not over Yao's foot issues, that team was going to win a championship until Yao's foot and McGrady's back both went out.

[Wulaw Horn 19063]

3 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

You are comparing apples and oranges. This is my big worry about Wembanyama. I am still not over Yao's foot issues, that team was going to win a championship until Yao's foot and McGrady's back both went out.

Yeah me too on Wemby. It’s the only reason I would do a Luka for him swap or something like that- my fear he will be out of the league by 26 or 28. 

[Brothahorn 10087]

3 hours ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Q2. Will you avoid banging other front office people’s wives while you’re here?

Or they just hire all fat chicks.

[Innocent Bystander II 8]

Anyone try the 123 ticket promo last year? 10 tickets for lower bowl are $333.

Thinking about giving it a go. Might be worth a shot if pray for Wemby works and the Rockets can bring in someone like Nurse/Udoka. 

[billfromlaketravis 11445]

22 hours ago, Innocent Bystander II said:

Anyone try the 123 ticket promo last year? 10 tickets for lower bowl are $333.

Thinking about giving it a go. Might be worth a shot if pray for Wemby works and the Rockets can bring in someone like Nurse/Udoka. 

Got a link? 

[Innocent Bystander II 8]

37 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Got a link? 

https://www.nba.com/rockets/123
 

 

[billfromlaketravis 11445]

Thanks IBII. I'll give the box office a call on Monday, and see what they can do for me. It's hard to find a bad seat in the 400's if you're low enough. 

[TonyTexas 10504]

 

[BigOrange1 6432]

boom motherfuckers!

[Pam Cummings 9639]

Hide ya wives!

[tx 3 putt 76862]

Fantastic hire !!!

[Hank Kingsley 20903]

Great way to start the rebuild. Shocked we got him. 

 

[HtownHorn 14663]

Damn, best decision by the Rockets since trading for Harden.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18547]

Not to throw cold water on this, but I don't think Udoka is a slam dunk. He's got only one year experience as a head coach and the assistant who took over for him (who in all honesty doesn't seem that great either) in Boston still won 6 more games than him with essentially the same team in a better conference. 

Also, one of my good friends has hung out with him several times and the minute he got hired in Boston, my friend pounded the under on number of wins for them (and lost btw). He thinks he's a complete spare and couldn't imagine anybody ever respecting or listening to him. And then there's the shit he got fired for, which is a pretty horrible look. 

Nick Nurse would have been a better hire, IMO. But you never know...

[LTtxfan 49141]

46 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

 

Wow, I thought Nick Nurse might be the target for the Rockets.

 

 "Now introducing Rockets new head coach"

[Wulaw Horn 19063]

1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Not to throw cold water on this, but I don't think Udoka is a slam dunk. He's got only one year experience as a head coach and the assistant who took over for him (who in all honesty doesn't seem that great either) in Boston still won 6 more games than him with essentially the same team in a better conference. 

Also, one of my good friends has hung out with him several times and the minute he got hired in Boston, my friend pounded the under on number of wins for them (and lost btw). He thinks he's a complete spare and couldn't imagine anybody ever respecting or listening to him. And then there's the shit he got fired for, which is a pretty horrible look. 

Nick Nurse would have been a better hire, IMO. But you never know...

Going from Silas to this is like going from playing pong to VR. I’d have preferred Nurse but this is awesome. 

[David Dennison 18841]

3 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Not to throw cold water on this, but I don't think Udoka is a slam dunk. He's got only one year experience as a head coach and the assistant who took over for him (who in all honesty doesn't seem that great either) in Boston still won 6 more games than him with essentially the same team in a better conference. 

Also, one of my good friends has hung out with him several times and the minute he got hired in Boston, my friend pounded the under on number of wins for them (and lost btw). He thinks he's a complete spare and couldn't imagine anybody ever respecting or listening to him. And then there's the shit he got fired for, which is a pretty horrible look. 

Nick Nurse would have been a better hire, IMO. But you never know...

Why are you the way that you are?

[Rockethorn1978 6072]

Great hire. Now let’s get some luck in the lottery.

[HtownHorn 14663]

Jaylen Brown might be a real thing now.

Trade for Brown and sign Harden. Give up the 1st and Porter.

Harden, Green, Brown, Smith, Sengun. That team is making the playoffs, and not the play-in.

[billfromlaketravis 11445]

If Nurse said no, this was the very best we could do. 

[HtownHorn 14663]

8 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

If Nurse said no, this was the very best we could do. 

Nurse never got an interview. Toronto thought for sure they were getting Udoka and Nurse was coming here.

[SilasCoade 2622]

27 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Jaylen Brown might be a real thing now.

Trade for Brown and sign Harden. Give up the 1st and Porter.

Harden, Green, Brown, Smith, Sengun. That team is making the playoffs, and not the play-in.

Can you elaborate on this trade for Jaylen Brown? You think a single first round pick and a head case that no one wants on their team are going to get him? Or do you think that gets both brown and harden? One is ridiculous and the other is obvious trolling.

[HtownHorn 14663]

14 minutes ago, SilasCoade said:

Can you elaborate on this trade for Jaylen Brown? You think a single first round pick and a head case that no one wants on their team are going to get him? Or do you think that gets both brown and harden? One is ridiculous and the other is obvious trolling.

Harden is a FA so it will not take anything to get him. The Rockets have enough draft capital to get Brown.

[BigOrange1 6432]

46 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Jaylen Brown might be a real thing now.

Trade for Brown and sign Harden. Give up the 1st and Porter.

Harden, Green, Brown, Smith, Sengun. That team is making the playoffs, and not the play-in.

if the rockets don't get the #1 pick, i'm 100% up for trading whatever pick they end up getting as the centerpiece to a package that lands a star.  

[SilasCoade 2622]

30 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Harden is a FA

Inaccurate.

He has a player option for next season.

[BigOrange1 6432]

1 hour ago, SilasCoade said:

Inaccurate.

He has a player option for next season.

this is semantical bullshit.  everyone in the world knows he isn't picking up that option.  so if being contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian means that much to you, congrats i suppose. 

[tx 3 putt 76862]

9 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Great way to start the rebuild. Shocked we got him. 

 

 

they drove him up and down bissonette, sealed the deal