True Detective: Night Country (Season 4)

[utxmike05 1828]

13 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Sweep and clear is on day 3, right after mop etiquette 

And after detective / reconnaissance operations class. Final class is folding clothes on ice. 

[Texzilla58 4738]

Little did you know this sleepy little town in Alaska was full of homicidal maniacs. Fucking 8 scientists and 20 cleaning ladies willing to commit murder. Also didn’t realize that these cleaning ladies were educated in siege tactics.

Plus several cops, the CEO of the global mine company that chooses to live in ennis instead of Gstaad or Santa Barbara, and that big woman beater.

[Texzilla58 4738]

WTF is Rose? Why is she here in Ennis? She’s like the Winston Wolfe of Ennis.

“I got a situation here!” “Wait I can take this stiff to Rose?” “Shit Negro, that’s all you had to say!”

[MissingInAction 25106]

This season makes The Walking Dead appear shakespearian in comparison. 

[Helobious 9462]

1 hour ago, Smax said:

This what the third time you've posted you're not watching the show, then why are you here and why do you keep reminding us you stopped after the first episode?

Your desperate need for validation is embarrassing 

I’m sorry you weren’t intelligent enough to see the writing on the wall in episode 1. I’m not sorry that I’m here to remind you of it.

[hobbes2702 13045]

59 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I’m sorry you weren’t intelligent enough to see the writing on the wall in episode 1. I’m not sorry that I’m here to remind you of it.

You’re not contributing anything to the thread. You’re just here trying to show how smart you are. It’s annoying, be better.

[mdmost 43004]

Ah give him his little victory lap. It's the first time he's ever been right on something. 

[Mileslong 4728]

So I fell asleep in about head the episodes so pardon me asking a dumb question here.

What were all the apparitions that kept appearing, the girl with the silent screaming mouth etc? Would appear after an Orange would come out of nowhere. What did I miss? Was that ever explained?

[RomaVicta 29929]

On 2/19/2024 at 1:50 AM, C-Man said:

Just finished it. Not sure what to think but first impression was that it was shit. The janitorial staff came and wrecked Tsalal’s shit?

 

On 2/19/2024 at 12:33 PM, wildcat09 said:

I actually didn't hate the cleaning ladies finding the hatch and figuring it out angle (outside of the True Detective universe, "evil corporation foiled by cleaning ladies" is fucking hilarious), but that sure felt like a deus ex machina they came up with pretty late and couldn't even figure out how to tie in Annie's tongue being left there, so just said fuck it on that.

 

The series truly had the feel that a new writer was brought to the set every 15 minutes to take over. "Keep it creepy. Don't worry about loose ends. It's creepy and very deep." 

On 2/19/2024 at 3:15 PM, austingirl said:

Are we to believe that Clark saw Navarro when he said "she's awake" and started seizing in the first episode? A "time is a flat circle" thing? Or did I completely misunderstand this? 

You should have applied for head writer. This might have got them started on some sort of story line. 

20 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

What a shit show. 
So the whole thing is that a group of scientists went into a homicidal rage and brutally murdered a girl with a screw driver? And then the cleaning ladies god mad and staged a mass kidnapping to kill the scientists?

What the fuck

Angry women. Miscarriages. Men raping the earth and the women. Beating them. Killing them. The show dishonors the theme with blatant idiocy. 

I hope somebody buys the rights and turns the nerds failing to murder a woman despite stabbing her 50 times and then falling prey to cleaning staff into a big musical finish.

Model the scene where the murder victim lady is discovered in the cave. The late entries would be the other scientists. Lead into a stabbing frenzy.

 

Maybe end with this except make the scissor guys be cleaning women and see the scene to it's conclusion.

 

 

[MissingInAction 25106]

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

Ah give him his little victory lap. It's the first time he's ever been right on something. 

Like a toddler when the adults laugh at something they say.

[naija 2866]

Annie's murder scene seemed like a bad ripoff by someone who watched Wind River

[Knoxtnhorn 6055]

Wait.  Why was there a spiral on the cave ceiling?  What was the shit moving around under the table?  Why'd the electricity go off?  How did Clark get untied from his torture chair?   Why the hell would two cops go spelunking w/o any plans if they got lost?  Why would two cops split up to chase a crazy dude through a research center?  Why'd Danvers leave an orange peel in the shape of the spiral?  I'm not going to go rewatch, but I thought Annie died in a cave.  IIRC, she was in a lab room when murdered.

Your partner disappeared.  You're second in command disappeared.  7, no 8 scientists just died "randomly".  A witness disappeared.  But, hey!  Good luck with the local political scene.  

[NoRagrets 1125]

Where did the tongue come from again?

Agree that this season was stupid as shit. I even hated the location. Like how does everyone not know everyone in a tiny little village in Alaska?

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

I can’t believe people are trying to explain anything from this turd season.  Was so bad it was actually funny by the end.  So many tough wimmenz.  

[Prepuce of Doom 21079]

Finished it last night, and all I could think to say at the time was, "uh, okay, I guess?" and after mulling it over a bit more, I don't think I have anything further to add. 

[Mileslong 4728]

It’s like they wrote this abortion of a woman’s empowerment story, then tried to back in a murder mystery.

Then they figured they needed to tie it to the original True Detective and threw in the spiral and the one time throw away line “time is a flat circle”. That part made me angry.

This was a horrible watch and waste of time. The payoff was up there with the worst of all time.

[Duane Moore 5243]

14 hours ago, Mileslong said:

What were all the apparitions that kept appearing, the girl with the silent screaming mouth etc? Would appear after an Orange would come out of nowhere. What did I miss? Was that ever explained?

Regardless of what they may have intended, I think the sum of what they put on film has to be that there are actual ghosts in Ennis.
 

Otherwise, you have at least four characters (Danvers, Navarro, Julia, and Rose) that are experiencing hallucinations, and somehow the rolling orange is common to all of them except Rose. Even that doesn’t explain how a hallucination of dead Travis would lead Rose to the frozen bodies of the scientists or how Navarro is having hallucinations of figures appearing behind her that only the viewer can see. 
 

This also raises the question for me of what happened to Navarro at the end? We see her walking off into the frozen tundra, heading towards absolutely nothing, like she’s finally doing what she’s tried to do before and like her sister did. Then she shows up in the final shot in Danvers’ lake house. Is she alive there, or is it her ghost?

Edited February 21 by Duane Moore

[Duane Moore 5243]

1 hour ago, Mileslong said:

It’s like they wrote this abortion of a woman’s empowerment story, then tried to back in a murder mystery.

Then they figured they needed to tie it to the original True Detective and threw in the spiral and the one time throw away line “time is a flat circle”. That part made me angry.

I’ve heard this theory discussed on a podcast. That the show creators pitched the basic concept to HBO (“Night Country”), and some executives said “hey, let’s make this a True Detective series” to create buzz from familiar IP.  So they just glommed on a bunch of superficial callbacks to the first series that really have nothing to do with the actual plot of the show and we got what we got. Makes as much sense anything. 

[MissingInAction 25106]

So the polar bear was the ghost of Holden. That's why Navarro covered Danvers eye when she told her "He sees you."

Or some shit.

[jeevsie 3734]

So was the ending a crossover to that Cleaning Lady show?

[Buzzrock 14922]

Regardless of what they may have intended, I think the sum of what they put on film has to be that there are actual ghosts in Ennis.
 
Otherwise, you have at least four characters (Danvers, Navarro, Julia, and Rose) that are experiencing hallucinations, and somehow the rolling orange is common to all of them except Rose. Even that doesn’t explain how a hallucination of dead Travis would lead Rose to the frozen bodies of the scientists or how Navarro is having hallucinations of figures appearing behind her that only the viewer can see. 
 
This also raises the question for me of what happened to Navarro at the end? We see her walking off into the frozen tundra, heading towards absolutely nothing, like she’s finally doing what she’s tried to do before and like her sister did. Then she shows up in the final shot in Danvers’ lake house. Is she alive there, or is it her ghost?

I honestly thought they were going to tie in some sort of toxin in the water that was making everyone go crazy. It’s the only thing I could come up with that would have explained any of it, and even that theory would have had issues.

Like someone else posted: the fact that they didn’t explain any of the other symptoms like fried corneas or burns is really shitty. On top of all the other shitty stiff.

This didn’t earn the TD name. Stolen valor.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18550]

12 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I can’t believe people are trying to explain anything from this turd season.  Was so bad it was actually funny by the end.  So many tough wimmenz.  

I think the whole thing works if you actually view it as a comedy. I mean, my son and I were literally laughing out loud through the last three episodes. They were a few tweaks and breaking the fourth wall every now and then from making this one of the greatest spoofs since Airplane. 

Maybe that's what the writers were really going for. We (the audience) are actually the True Detectives, trying to unravel the mystery that this was really a gigantic, subtly brilliant, dark comedy mocking the entire genre, instead of the biggest pile of shit to hit HBO since the last season of Game of Thrones.

[wildcat09 29355]

3 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I think the whole thing works if you actually view it as a comedy. I mean, my son and I were literally laughing out loud through the last three episodes. They were a few tweaks and breaking the fourth wall every now and then from making this one of the greatest spoofs since Airplane. 

Maybe that's what the writers were really going for. We (the audience) are actually the True Detectives, trying to unravel the mystery that this was really a gigantic, subtly brilliant, dark comedy mocking the entire genre, instead of the biggest pile of shit to hit HBO since the last season of Game of Thrones.

The end of episode 4 with the line "we're all in the night country now!" was one of the dumbest and funniest things I've seen in awhile.  

[Prepuce of Doom 21079]

5 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

This didn’t earn the TD name. Stolen valor.

Factually Debatable Detective: Night Country 

[MissingInAction 25106]

Throwing Shit at A Wall: Night Country

[Knoxtnhorn 6055]

Something else that I didn't catch while watching.  And, I don't think it's made the 40+ list of stupidity or plot holes over the last 3 pages.  We knew Annie was killed by the group of scientists; however, the Eskimo Mafia did not know this.  Why did they go after the entire crew?

[Neonmoon 38129]

25 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Something else that I didn't catch while watching.  And,p I don't think it's made the 40+ list of stupidity or plot holes over the last 3 pages.  We knew Annie was killed by the group of scientists; however, the Eskimo Mafia did not know this.  Why did they go after the entire crew?

It had. It doesn’t make sense. 

We saw the cleaning lady spill water and find hatch. We the saw cleaning lady find star shaped screwdriver. 

We as viewers were supposed to assume:

1. The cleaning ladies knew that the holes in the body were from a star shaped weapon. 
2. The star shaped screwdriver was the only one in the state. 

3. It requires 8 grown men to kill Annie and dispose of her body.

[HouTex 1878]

1 hour ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Something else that I didn't catch while watching.  And, I don't think it's made the 40+ list of stupidity or plot holes over the last 3 pages.  We knew Annie was killed by the group of scientists; however, the Eskimo Mafia did not know this.  Why did they go after the entire crew?

Obligatory:  Eskimo is not the proper nomenclature.  

[Texzilla58 4738]

HBO gone straight to shit. They have renewed TD for season 5, with Issa Lopez at the helm again. They also gave her a long term deal. The world is insane.

[speed817 19378]

40 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

HBO gone straight to shit. They have renewed TD for season 5, with Issa Lopez at the helm again. They also gave her a long term deal. The world is insane.

Scooby-Doo and Shaggy will headline season 5

[Red Five 40862]

Rotten Tomatoes: 

Season 1 - 91%

Season 4 - 92%

How much money was spent buying these reviews?

[UTexasFight 9493]

46 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

HBO gone straight to shit. They have renewed TD for season 5, with Issa Lopez at the helm again. They also gave her a long term deal. The world is insane.

[utxmike05 1828]

40 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Rotten Tomatoes: 

Season 1 - 91%

Season 4 - 92%

How much money was spent buying these reviews?

Don't tell Issa that!  She has been cringe responding to everything online defending stuff.  Even Navarro is making fun of all fans who have had negative reviews on reddit/forums/socialmedia.  She wants you the viewer to decide the answers to all the unsolved plots. She also acts like she made up the "ask the right questions" with no influence from season 1...gods told her.

HBO only cares about viewers...bad or good reactions are still good for them. 

Lots of good shows are done....no more Succession....Curb is ending. 

I would cancel my HBO Max if I didn't already use my friend's login for free lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Red Five 40862]

yikes

[Chewbacca 7780]

1 hour ago, speed817 said:

Scooby-Doo and Shaggy will headline season 5

Ruh-roh!

[Jerry Callo 8704]

I'm three episodes into a re-watch of season 1.  Now the wife wants to watch it again as well.  I will reluctantly watch the first three episodes again.  Paying particular attention to Alexandra Daddario in episode two, again.

[66BUFF 2564]

[jimmyjazz 45975]

Well, I stuck it out.  Wow.  I'm not sure why Jodie Foster signed up for such a bomb, but whatever.

At least the intro music is good, and I'm not even particularly a fan of Billie Eilish.

[chainsaw 9870]

4 hours ago, Jerry Callo said:

 I will reluctantly watch the first three episodes again.  Paying particular attention to Alexandra Daddario in episode two, again.

That's rough man. I'm sorry.

[hobbes2702 13045]

6 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:

HBO gone straight to shit. They have renewed TD for season 5, with Issa Lopez at the helm again. They also gave her a long term deal. The world is insane.

5 hours ago, Red Five said:

Rotten Tomatoes: 

Season 1 - 91%

Season 4 - 92%

How much money was spent buying these reviews?

I think RT reviews for TV are usually made based on the first 2-3 eps not the full season.

[billfromlaketravis 11515]

6 hours ago, utxmike05 said:

Don't tell Issa that!  She has been cringe responding to everything online defending stuff.  Even Navarro is making fun of all fans who have had negative reviews on reddit/forums/socialmedia.  She wants you the viewer to decide the answers to all the unsolved plots. She also acts like she made up the "ask the right questions" with no influence from season 1...gods told her.

HBO only cares about viewers...bad or good reactions are still good for them. 

Lots of good shows are done....no more Succession....Curb is ending. 

I would cancel my HBO Max if I didn't already use my friend's login for free lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Please keep it up Reis so HBO will never cast you again. 

[Mez2 4023]

She could play mike tyson!

[UTexasFight 9493]

13 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

I think RT reviews for TV are usually made based on the first 2-3 eps not the full season.

Then the rating makes even less sense 

[yoladu 4094]

18 hours ago, Jerry Callo said:

I'm three episodes into a re-watch of season 1.  Now the wife wants to watch it again as well.  I will reluctantly watch the first three episodes again.  Paying particular attention to Alexandra Daddario in episode two, again.

Fortunately for you, those first three episodes were perfect and the best episodes of season 1.

 

Edited February 23 by yoladu

[Fud 9552]

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict the next season's viewership won't be nearly as strong

People finish murder mysteries that they start. I think a lot of people just won't start next season 

Also, Pizzolatto's social media activity might be more cringeworthy than Issa's

[Red Five 40862]

I remember reading an interview with Matthew M a few years ago where he said he and Woody were both up for reprising their roles. But hadn’t been asked to.

(rage)

[hobbes2702 13045]

2 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

Then the rating makes even less sense 

The first 3 eps were pretty good mostly. Ep 4 is where things really started going off the rails.

 

[hobbes2702 13045]

11 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I remember reading an interview with Matthew M a few years ago where he said he and Woody were both up for reprising their roles. But hadn’t been asked to.

(rage)

What would they even do? That story is closed.

[Red Five 40862]

6 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

What would they even do? That story is closed.

What could they do in that world with those two great characters? The options are limitless. 

[usmc0331horn 953]

23 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:

HBO gone straight to shit. They have renewed TD for season 5, with Issa Lopez at the helm again. They also gave her a long term deal. The world is insane.

Can't get any more seasons of Mindhunter on Netflix or another platform but let's churn out more season of this dead franchise.