The Penguin. HBO

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5 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Great series, great finale.

I still don't completely understand the doctor.  How does he go from being Sophia's accomplice in cutting off Ma's finger to being back on staff at Arkham delivering her mail? He kind of seemed like a useless character altogether.

Apparently he has a huge schlong.

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33 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

Cristina doesn’t show the goods.  She’s a good Italian girl, unfortunately.  

Well. That’s a shame. 

[HornOnTheBayou 8,881]

I guess I'm in the minority, because I really didn't like the series. There was one fantastic episode and that's about it. I finished it because I was already pot committed, but I found myself getting distracted during the finale and really didn't care what happened in the end.

It didn't work as a superhero show, because there was no mention of any superhero (until the last minute of the last episode). It didn't work as a gangster show, because it was too silly and campy and it just ripped off The Sopranos (everything with his mother), The Godfather (terrible attempt at the Baptism Scene in the last episode), and Goodfellas (flashbacks where he's fawning over gangsters) without adding anything original. 

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[kingkoopa6 8,330]

Damn. Not vic

For a sec I thought Vic was gonna do oz. 
 

but then I remembered what the name of the show is called. 
 

it’s not called The Vic 

[billfromlaketravis 11,377]

Should have ended it after Episode 7. That was, uh, not a good finale. 

[Buzzrock 14,883]

I liked the show but didn’t love the finale either. Oz amazingly escapes from certain death, again…they played that card too many times. 

The Vic arc kind of had to happen, and helps remind the audience that Oz is not a hero. I kinda wanted to see him become even more ruthless. I thought his woman was a goner too after turning on him.

But it was incredibly well done, well acted, CF was (as has been said) unrecognizable and CM played a fantastic psycho. 

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2 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

I liked the show but didn’t love the finale either. Oz amazingly escapes from certain death, again…they played that card too many times. 

The Vic arc kind of had to happen, and helps remind the audience that Oz is not a hero. I kinda wanted to see him become even more ruthless. I thought his woman was a goner too after turning on him.

But it was incredibly well done, well acted, CF was (as has been said) unrecognizable and CM played a fantastic psycho. 

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Does anybody else find the showrunner’s explanation for whacking Vic confusing as hell? She cited a deleted scene from The Batman as her reasoning. The only problem is, the deleted scene has nothing to do with Vic and Oz. Not even remotely. It’s all bullshit. We’re adults. Just stick Matt Reeves in front of a camera and have him say we didn’t have a place for Vic in Batman 2, so we ended his story. 
 

It was a very shitty ending for what was essentially the heart of the show. A scene where Vic reminds Oz of his brothers, Oz goes nuts, and kills him in the heat of the moment would have worked better.

Oz can’t have family around him because it makes him weak, yet he has his vegetable mother and girlfriend under his roof? Again it’s all bullshit. 

 

[Vegas64 669]

I thought it was a good and necessary ending, the full birth and origin of The Penguin with the hat tip to the tails and hat (and umbrella?).

The end was giving Alfred Hithcock with the mom in psychco vibes. The end really shows his pyschosis and Oedipean illness in the role playing with Eve.

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17 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

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Does anybody else find the showrunner’s explanation for whacking Vic confusing as hell? She cited a deleted scene from The Batman as her reasoning. The only problem is, the deleted scene has nothing to do with Vic and Oz. Not even remotely. It’s all bullshit. We’re adults. Just stick Matt Reeves in front of a camera and have him say we didn’t have a place for Vic in Batman 2, so we ended his story. 
 

It was a very shitty ending for what was essentially the heart of the show. A scene where Vic reminds Oz of his brothers, Oz goes nuts, and kills him in the heat of the moment would have worked better.

Oz can’t have family around him because it makes him weak, yet he has his vegetable mother and girlfriend under his roof? Again it’s all bullshit. 

 

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I had a different take on the mother. She begged him to put her out of her misery if she ever became incapacitated, and instead he keeps her alive in perpetual misery. Exactly what she did not want. He's not taking care of her. He's punishing her. It's just another example of what a depraved and psychotic sociopath he is. He's completely unhinged. Like some Norman Bates shit including his girlfriend dressed up and play acting like his Ma. Just general psycho fucked up stuff.

I don't think he killed Victor because it made him weak. He killed Victor because he's a serial killer with no regard for human life. Vic wasn't of any use to him any more and he knew way too much. He almost wacked him multiple other times over the course of the show. It was time to get rid of him plus it showed that nobody is ever safe around him, however close they might be. There is zero value to anybody's life to him.

 

[Helobious 9,503]

Finale was stupid. Only cool thing about it was the hangar scene when Oz smirks at Sofia

[kingkoopa6 8,330]

It was killin me figuring where I remembered the counsel man dude in the suit….

he was the movie director dude on entourage that hated people in suits 

 

 

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[C-Man 27,122]

Finally returning to this thread after watching the finale the other night. I was pretty stunned to see Oz murder Vic at the end though I never really bought Vic as a driver/top henchman for a high-level gangster like Oz.

As far as there being more made of The Penguin, I thought I saw an article quoting Colin Farrell say he’s open to doing another season of The Penguin?

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3 hours ago, C-Man said:

I was pretty stunned to see Oz murder Vic at the end

As soon as Vic said he was like a father to him, I knew he was dead.

[Buzzrock 14,883]

7 hours ago, C-Man said:

Finally returning to this thread after watching the finale the other night. I was pretty stunned to see Oz murder Vic at the end though I never really bought Vic as a driver/top henchman for a high-level gangster like Oz.

As far as there being more made of The Penguin, I thought I saw an article quoting Colin Farrell say he’s open to doing another season of The Penguin?

https://collider.com/the-penguin-season-2-colin-farrell/
 

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Bad finale, but also bad series. Also, Sofia not hot. 

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3 in a row from the KOBT

[Helobious 9,503]

That was the least realistic strangulation I think I’ve ever seen 

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2 hours ago, Helobious said:

That was the least realistic strangulation I think I’ve ever seen 

Ever strangle someone?

 

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46 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Ever strangle someone?

 

No. But I imagine grabbing someone by their throat while they barely even fight back is not how it’d go down. 

[MissingInAction 24,868]

He didn't just grab his throat. He pinched the carotid arteries into the wind pipe.

Simultaneously knocking him out while cutting air supply.

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4 hours ago, Helobious said:

That was the least realistic strangulation I think I’ve ever seen 

You've obviously never fought a penguin.

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Loved it!  Still thinking, poor Vic.

Now Cristin Milioti joins my list of Morena Baccarin & Marisa Tomei.  Maybe I should go to Italy? 

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Loved it!  Still thinking, poor Vic.
Now Cristin Milioti joins my list of Morena Baccarin & Marisa Tomei.  Maybe I should go to Italy? 

Shes nice and all but not in the same league as the other two, who by the way, showed off their tight bodies on multiple occasions.

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