NBA Playoffs 2023

[Chewbacca 7793]

There's a thousand coulda woulda shoulda calls throughout the game though man. Can't just point at one thing that happened and say that was much of a game changer

I'm not. Nuggs shoot like shit and the Heat were unconscious in the 4th. Still like our chances.

[CurlyDumps 4553]

Fuck yeah. We got a series boys.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18660]

11 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Rough math: Counting playoffs over 5000 4th quarters counting both teams in each game?

And you put down the most efficient one at this point in time?  

I think it’s closer to half that many but either way, it’s bananas to throw up the most efficient fourth quarter of the entire season in the finals when you’re about to go into a 2-0 hole. Their season’s probably over otherwise. 

[ChiTownDoc 21221]

13 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I think it’s closer to half that many but either way, it’s bananas to throw up the most efficient fourth quarter of the entire season in the finals when you’re about to go into a 2-0 hole. Their season’s probably over otherwise. 

Yep you’re right.  I doubled at the end when I had already accounted for all 30 teams and 82 games (plus some postseason).  Still crazy.  

[shadow_operative 15932]

 

[BurgleBro 838]

On 6/3/2023 at 10:41 PM, ztejas said:

Think whatever you want I don't really give a shit. It isn't especially difficult to recognize the most transformative defensive player of a generation but I guess you're up for a challenge. 

If green plays for a non Cali team the refs shut his moving screen rough house bs act down long ago.  The results speak for themselves but don't kid yourself it's also influenced by his market.  

He deserves twice the techs and fouls he's ever gotten. 

Think of it  like OU and OL holding.  

[Fastbreak 3996]

It wasn’t any one call, the heat just outplayed them. The 1st and 4th quarters were like the old Spurs. I’m hoping for a bounce back in game 3

[ztejas 43745]

9 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

 

I noticed this as well. It seemed like they were running them off the 3 line all night.

[ztejas 43745]

9 hours ago, BurgleBro said:

If green plays for a non Cali team the refs shut his moving screen rough house bs act down long ago.  The results speak for themselves but don't kid yourself it's also influenced by his market.  

He deserves twice the techs and fouls he's ever gotten. 

Think of it  like OU and OL holding.  

I mean it's always difficult to isolate guys from team success. Curry doesn't have 4 rings if he doesn't play with the guys he's played with. I think Dray would have developed into a great player wherever he wound up.

[d2o 1602]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

I noticed this as well. It seemed like they were running them off the 3 line all night.

Most of the time defenders were staying home on shooters and letting Jokic work 1:1 with whoever was guarding him.   There were a lot of mismatches where he bullied one of the guards but they only get 2 pts out of those possessions.  Almost none of the wide open 3s that they are used to getting.   Its a great plan.  It helps when you are on fire on the other end too to keep the pressure on them.   Will be interesting to see what adjustments DEN makes to get their shooters some looks.

[gofuckyourself 8680]

Really looking forward to Game 3 and the adjustments.

People saying Denver would roll this Miami team haven't watched Miami this playoffs, or the last several years. Spo has been dragging no name and has-been players into the playoffs for years. Now with Butler and Bam and consistent D and shooting, they are very tough. 

Or I'm hilariously wrong that Miami has a chance and Jokic smashes them like a Serbian war hammer and Denver takes the next three. Who the hell knows.

[SilasCoade 2622]

That was pretty easily the best game Bam has had in the playoffs.

I still think Denver will win but Miami has proven that they are going to take advantage of any opportunities they are given. 

[gofuckyourself 8680]

15 minutes ago, SilasCoade said:

That was pretty easily the best game Bam has had in the playoffs.

I still think Denver will win but Miami has proven that they are going to take advantage of any opportunities they are given. 

Debatable on "easily". He had near triple doubles vs the Celtics and Bucks and was crucial to some victories.

Really, game 1 he was arguably better. More points, rebounds and assists and kept them in the game. But the Heat's shooters were so terrible it got lost.

What's interesting about Adebayo is he sometimes flips a switch and just "decides" on offense, and then his athleticism and moves can be jaw-dropping. Like one dribble, spin and dunk starting from 10 feet out type of stuff.

[shadow_operative 15932]

😂😂😂

 

[SilasCoade 2622]

1 hour ago, gofuckyourself said:

Debatable on "easily". He had near triple doubles vs the Celtics and Bucks and was crucial to some victories.

Really, game 1 he was arguably better. More points, rebounds and assists and kept them in the game. But the Heat's shooters were so terrible it got lost.

What's interesting about Adebayo is he sometimes flips a switch and just "decides" on offense, and then his athleticism and moves can be jaw-dropping. Like one dribble, spin and dunk starting from 10 feet out type of stuff.

He's had better stats without being as impactful as he was last night. He got timely buckets, played good defense, and just generally played a more in control game.

[ztejas 43745]

Denver is still -270 to win the series.

That's high. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

4 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Denver is still -270 to win the series.

That's high. 

i dunno. bam isn't going to play like that every night, and miami's cadre of UDFA's aren't going to shoot 50% from three every night. Denver still remains the vastly superior team players wise. to me it comes down to Spo vs Malone, and Miami's three point shooting. MIA has to win both of those battles to win the series.

[Zeus 6474]

5 hours ago, ztejas said:

Denver is still -270 to win the series.

That's high. 

They win Wednesday and it's never going to be that good odds from here out. It was like -800 before game 2

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[Vic Mackey 47308]

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[ztejas 43745]

The peak Miami versions of those players? A in a landslide. 

[Zeus 6474]

2 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

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C

Shaq makes any team absolutely amazing. He was one of a kind unstoppable force. 

[SilasCoade 2622]

Yeah if it's good at the peaks of their careers then C is a that winner, but if it's guys only when they played for Miami then it's A.

[shadow_operative 15932]

Heat versions:

LBJ, Ray, Bam

vs

Jimmy, Wade, Shaq

7 game series 

play to 11 by 1's and 2's, win by two 

Edited June 6, 2023 by shadow_operative

[shadow_operative 15932]

 

 

[Brothahorn 10088]

I'm not a big believer in moral victories, but I thought Miami shouldn't be too upset about losing game 1. Especially coming off that crazy Boston series. They got road win and head home to play two. Tonight should be real fun.

[aggie08 21585]

Scorching hot take incoming:

 

I love Jimmy Butler as much as the next guy, but can we tap the brakes just a little on his "unmatched desire to win." He obviously wants to win desperately. But he'd still be wallowing away in mediocrity in Minnesota if they paid him when he wanted them to (leading to his infamous practice tirade). He didn't want out because of KAT and Wiggins' lack of work ethic; he wanted out because he didn't get paid. And he went to Miami because they could pay him more money (more power to him), not necessarily because they were closer to winning a Championship than Philly.

Also, if he gets credit for being a top ~5 player in the postseason, doesn't he deserve a little blame for barely being a top 20 player in the regular season? Surely, the plan isn't to squeak by in the play-in most years and play the 3 toughest teams in the conference to make the Finals. Maybe if Playoff Jimmy made an appearance twice a month--something he's clearly capable of--they wouldn't live in the bottom half of the conference.

He's not Robert Horry or Draymond Green, guys that can sleepwalk through the regular season on great teams and then turn it up for the playoffs. He's the best player on a title contending team. Being the inverse James Harden is cool, but it makes annointing him an all-time great really difficult.

[ztejas 43745]

I think this is the first Finals I've ever watched where I didn't know who I wanted to win. I don't think both the team I wanted from the West during the conference Finals and the team I wanted from the East have ever played each other - at least not when I wasn't already cheering for one of those teams. 

It's really nice. I can just kick back and watch and cheer for good basketball. I don't feel emotionally invested either way. 

[ztejas 43745]

Something cool about Miami I just thought about - it's only Americans up and down the roster (guys actually playing at least). In an era when a lot of the best guys are starting to be foreigners and a lot of people question American development and the way we teach winning basketball. 

[ztejas 43745]

@MNLonghornFUKM your KLove observation the other night was solid my main point was just let Spo figure it out because he will. That and I don't think bringing Love off the bench in G1 would have saved them.

[closetohumping 17547]

8 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Scorching hot take incoming:

 

I love Jimmy Butler as much as the next guy, but can we tap the brakes just a little on his "unmatched desire to win." He obviously wants to win desperately. But he'd still be wallowing away in mediocrity in Minnesota if they paid him when he wanted them to (leading to his infamous practice tirade). He didn't want out because of KAT and Wiggins' lack of work ethic; he wanted out because he didn't get paid. And he went to Miami because they could pay him more money (more power to him), not necessarily because they were closer to winning a Championship than Philly.

Also, if he gets credit for being a top ~5 player in the postseason, doesn't he deserve a little blame for barely being a top 20 player in the regular season? Surely, the plan isn't to squeak by in the play-in most years and play the 3 toughest teams in the conference to make the Finals. Maybe if Playoff Jimmy made an appearance twice a month--something he's clearly capable of--they wouldn't live in the bottom half of the conference.

He's not Robert Horry or Draymond Green, guys that can sleepwalk through the regular season on great teams and then turn it up for the playoffs. He's the best player on a title contending team. Being the inverse James Harden is cool, but it makes annointing him an all-time great really difficult.

Ihe’s had some pretty iffy games as well and I’m not sure Martin shouldn’t have been ecf mvp

[MNLonghornFUKM 8916]

[mention=37]MNLonghornFUKM[/mention] your KLove observation the other night was solid my main point was just let Spo figure it out because he will. That and I don't think bringing Love off the bench in G1 would have saved them.

He probably wouldn’t have mattered game 1 since it was over right when it started, but spo should’ve recognized Strus and Vincent were being switched into Aaron Gordon and made an adjustment at the 8 min mark of Q1


This current line up with love and bam on bench with zeller in there Vs Joker is going to get destroyed

Miami is going to have to go bucket for bucket until Q2 when Joker sits and bam comes back

[ztejas 43745]

1 minute ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

He probably wouldn’t have mattered game 1 since it was over right when it started, but spo should’ve recognized Strus and Vincent were being switched into Aaron Gordon and made an adjustment at the 8 min mark of Q1

He was probably afraid of something else happening instead with Love out there.

He realized that his size could be helpful once he watched film. 

Reggie Jackson sighting. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8916]

Welcome to the finals Caleb Martin!

[ztejas 43745]

These Murray 3s are fucking unreal. 

[ztejas 43745]

Not sure how that's a foul on Vincent?

[MNLonghornFUKM 8916]

Denver flexing. Nobody on Miami is shooting average. They need someone to step up and hit some 3s or this’ll get ugly

[Zeus 6474]

Rooting for Mia

Bet on nuggets

[ztejas 43745]

2 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Denver flexing. Nobody on Miami is shooting average. They need someone to step up and hit some 3s or this’ll get ugly

I don't think this is "getting ugly".

[Zeus 6474]

Bam is so fun to watch man

[Zeus 6474]

Spo looking nervous after they get an offensive rebound 2' above the floor in the paint

[Horn80 6240]

Jokic’s soft touch is amazing.

[ztejas 43745]

The 3rd 3 from Love was a bit much. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8916]

The 3rd 3 from Love was a bit much. 

What’s the opposite of a heat check

[Zeus 6474]

Porter Jokic and Gordon inside too too big

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

The 3rd 3 from Love was a bit much. 

Yeah everyone talked about the intangibles and defense but his shot was broke game 2 as well

[Zeus 6474]

I love how Butler lives in that old man range, cheap baseline 2s from 10' all day.

[ztejas 43745]

Alright this might get bad. 

[ztejas 43745]

Miami is easily top 3 worst crowds. They might be the worst. 

[Brothahorn 10088]

11 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Alright this might get bad. 

The Heat assistants need to go ahead and start breaking down the film for game 4.

 

BS, late foul. Looks like they are waiting to see if the ball goes in. A foul is a foul, call it.

Edited June 8, 2023 by Brothahorn

[MNLonghornFUKM 8916]

Lots of pressure on Miami to NOT to back to denver down 3-1 game 4.

They came out flat on all cylinders tonight.

[Vic Mackey 47308]

Lol Miami. Dorks.