Cheerleaders in a parking lot? That’s a blasting.

[Proust Bag 20]

My daughter would’ve been there had she not gotten a stomach bug. Weird how life works. Btw I’ve paid a small fortune to her cheer team, it’s a total racket. 

[Pam Cummings 9684]

We're to the point where i legitimately trust actual criminals to be safer and more responsible with their firearms than i do with "guy who always has a gun for protection".

Like, seriously. I think more innocents are shot by non-criminals these days.

[InkaUtexas 26172]

Spoke with someone who knows a bit about weapons. Dude was the 3 for Delta and a sheriff. 

You don't respond to shoot first. You assess and then react. 

Fucking dipshits with guns. What the fuck is wrong America? 

A Cheerleader? Multiple rounds fired? Nah, something is off. He was doing something else. 

[BillyGoatHill 4312]

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

Sorry this is Surlyhorns. Not Surlyfacts. 

Perfect Avatar and post...well done.👏 👏

 

Edited April 19, 2023 by BillyGoatHill

[GhostOfTomJoad 9358]

Do we know if the cheerleaders were showing jazz hands or tap hands? Could make a world of difference for the defense.

[Nivek 16992]

6 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

So many absolute pussy's in this country. 

Someone knocked on my door - pew pew pew no questions asked.

Someone drove down my driveway - pew pew pew no questions asked.

Someone tried to open the door to my car - pew pew pew no questions asked.

[DaggerHorns 3102]

Nothing good happens after midnight.

[Beau Vine 54466]

10 hours ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

Waiting to see photos of Johny Itchyfinger and how he was intimidated and fearful of losing his life to...a fucking HS cheerleader.

Well, he was carrying a gun to HEB, so he's clearly a huge pussy, as is everyone else who feels the need to carry around a gun.  

[Beau Vine 54466]

6 hours ago, Samson's Wig said:

EDIT TO ADD: I don't know anything about the poster who first brought this up.  Perhaps there is history there (or from the political board) that has colored peoples responses that I'm just missing. 

He seems to be a good poster to me.  Which is why this post that he made was so odd.

[Sawbonz 27596]

6 hours ago, Helobious said:

My sister (no pics) did competitive cheerleading all through high school

She got fat didn’t she 

[Beau Vine 54466]

5 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

several other posters, one of which is a deranged incel lunatic who lives in his mom's basement and spends hours a day stalking women online and posting their pictures here on surly

And may God bless him.

[High Plains Drifter 11052]

5 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

 a deranged incel lunatic who lives in his mom's basement and spends hours a day stalking women online and posting their pictures here on surly

 

 

This is something you have to pay the tree fiddy to see isn't it?

 

 

 

[High Plains Drifter 11052]

5 hours ago, Hate said:

Guess they need more thoughts and prayers, need more good guys with guns, we are so broken, small dick gun owners….same old trope that gets rolled out every single time something like this happens.

 

you forgot the old trope of the guy who bitches about all the old tropes

 

 

[Helobious 9467]

1 hour ago, DaggerHorns said:

Nothing good happens after midnight.

Always hated that saying. Everything happens after midnight technically.

[Pato del Muerto 52616]

9 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Always hated that saying. Everything happens after midnight technically.

How about “nothing is open after 2 am except jails and legs”

i guess you could update it to add wounds. 

Edited April 19, 2023 by Pato del Muerto

[seven 1368]

Why did these cheerleaders not make a tactical retreat and return fire from a safe location? People just don't teach their children common sense anymore. 

[conVINCEd 21469]

9 minutes ago, seven said:

Why did these cheerleaders not make a tactical retreat and return fire from a safe location? People just don't teach their children common sense anymore. 

If one of the cheerleaders reached under that short little skirt, pulled out a 38 and put 2 shots center mass on this  guy.  I could fap to that.

[Dahobbs 17694]

25 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

If one of the cheerleaders reached under that short little skirt, pulled out a 38 and put 2 shots center mass on this  guy.  I could fap to that.

Pretty sure you can have an ai generated that for you if you're interested. 

[Hate 20146]

3 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Well, he was carrying a gun to HEB, so he's clearly a huge pussy, as is everyone else who feels the need to carry around a gun.  

needs, more, commas,.

[texasdago 7581]

Thought I heard the news say they had incidents with the shooter before 

[SydneyCarton 48203]

25 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Thought I heard the news say they had incidents with the shooter before 

They didn’t live in Elgin. That must have been where they tried to get in his car mistakenly, walked away, then he shortly thereafter got out and blasted them in their car. 

[texasdago 7581]

6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

They didn’t live in Elgin. That must have been where they tried to get in his car mistakenly, walked away, then he shortly thereafter got out and blasted them in their car. 

I'm referring to the HEB having had issues with the guy who shot the girls 

[royiv 9375]

@Handcruser what sort of weapon do you recommend for the modern high school cheerleader? What weapon was needed here to de-escalate the situation?

[956 Worldwide 34794]

1 hour ago, royiv said:

@Handcruser what sort of weapon do you recommend for the modern high school cheerleader? What weapon was needed here to de-escalate the situation?

Anytime a high school cheerleader gets her lung shot out in a grocery store parking lot, or a woman gets blown away after pulling in the wrong driveway, or a kid who rings a doorbell gets plugged, or a bunch of six year olds have their brains used to paint a classroom wall…..here comes the left, looking for gun control.  It’s just political opportunism, and frankly it’s distasteful to want to talk about gun control as a response to horrific random violence against completely innocent people and children. 

[SydneyCarton 48203]

I’m as gun control as anyone. But perpetually Attacking @Handcruser is beyond me. He supports gun control, extended background checks, all kinds of gun reforms. A man has to make a living, and what he’s doing isn’t illegal. It isn’t human trafficking. I don’t demonize the convenience store clerk for selling fucking cigarettes, and for decades second hand smoke killed probably thousands of folks a year. What we did do is change the fucking laws. 
 

you want to direct your ire at someone, direct it at Fox News, direct it at our political system, direct it at one party that only seems to give a fuck about their own power, or direct it at the dozen or so posters who show up here with weak AF arguments about standing their ground, and all the crazies out there with guns do I need a gun too, or we need guns to protect us from government overreach. There’s plenty of those losers here, but for the most part Handcruser isn’t one of them. Most of the time I’ve seen that guys posts, he’s just saying “I like guns, I sell guns, I’m for red flag laws, extended background checks, and I’ve cancelled sales because I don’t like the vibe of a guy.” 
 

I hate to break it to you people, but human trafficking has links to porn, and only fans, but I don’t see you people losing your shit over everyone who watches fucking porn. Or pays for some kind of sub somewhere. 

[Pam Cummings 9684]

It would probably help if i didnt distinctly remember the dude bragging about how many guns he was going to sell after a mass shooting.

[South Austin 52629]

50 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

II hate to break it to you people, but human trafficking has links to porn, and only fans, but I don’t see you people losing your shit over everyone who watches fucking porn. Or pays for some kind of sub somewhere. 

Oh, I’d lose my shit over somebody paying for porn.

[SydneyCarton 48203]

44 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

It would probably help if i didnt distinctly remember the dude bragging about how many guns he was going to sell after a mass shooting.

I believe that was taunting people sarcastically after he had been piled on all day similarly to what’s happening here. 

[Nivek 16992]

16 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I believe that was taunting people sarcastically after he had been piled on all day similarly to what’s happening here. 

Sometimes it is a good idea to read the room and not fan the flames (but I have had extensive training after 20 years of marriage).   Considering the number of children being killed recently, this isn't exactly a black swan moment.  

Edited April 20, 2023 by Nivek

[SydneyCarton 48203]

15 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Sometimes it is a good idea to read the room and not fan the flames (but I have had extensive training after 20 years of marriage).   Considering the number of children being killed recently, this isn't exactly a black swan moment.  

I don’t disagree.  But it’s also not surprising when someone who’s been getting pummeled repeatedly when he essentially agrees with much of what is being said will eventually shut down and return fire. 

[SydneyCarton 48203]

49 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Oh, I’d lose my shit over somebody paying for porn.

Whether you pay or not, someone is paying because people are getting paid. Your eyeballs are web traffic which begets dollars. 

[royiv 9375]

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I’m as gun control as anyone. But perpetually Attacking @Handcruser is beyond me. He supports gun control, extended background checks, all kinds of gun reforms. A man has to make a living, and what he’s doing isn’t illegal. It isn’t human trafficking. I don’t demonize the convenience store clerk for selling fucking cigarettes, and for decades second hand smoke killed probably thousands of folks a year. What we did do is change the fucking laws. 
 

you want to direct your ire at someone, direct it at Fox News, direct it at our political system, direct it at one party that only seems to give a fuck about their own power, or direct it at the dozen or so posters who show up here with weak AF arguments about standing their ground, and all the crazies out there with guns do I need a gun too, or we need guns to protect us from government overreach. There’s plenty of those losers here, but for the most part Handcruser isn’t one of them. Most of the time I’ve seen that guys posts, he’s just saying “I like guns, I sell guns, I’m for red flag laws, extended background checks, and I’ve cancelled sales because I don’t like the vibe of a guy.” 
 

I hate to break it to you people, but human trafficking has links to porn, and only fans, but I don’t see you people losing your shit over everyone who watches fucking porn. Or pays for some kind of sub somewhere. 

He has repeatedly gloated about the numbers of ARs he sells, how guns de-escalate conflict, being cute about his brunch gun, etc. He's totally crass about guns. You say he supports gun control, but when he's been pressed about what that means and what he's doing, he slinks away into the night. He's been pressed here on those issues multiple times and has never responded. I've asked him if he would ever consider pulling support from the NRA and he's never responded. You can't be for the things you articulated and also support the organization that is most diametrically opposed and actively blocking those measures. 

[SydneyCarton 48203]

50 minutes ago, royiv said:

He has repeatedly gloated about the numbers of ARs he sells, how guns de-escalate conflict, being cute about his brunch gun, etc. He's totally crass about guns. You say he supports gun control, but when he's been pressed about what that means and what he's doing, he slinks away into the night. He's been pressed here on those issues multiple times and has never responded. I've asked him if he would ever consider pulling support from the NRA and he's never responded. You can't be for the things you articulated and also support the organization that is most diametrically opposed and actively blocking those measures. 

Listen, I don't have perfect recall, and I don't have an elephant's memory of every player on every single gun thread we've had, which feels like a hundred or more at this point. But I have very clearly remembered him outlining the things I did initially, supporting red flag, increased background checks, eliminating 3rd party sales without oversight, etc. I can't speak to the NRA thing. I can't speak to crassness, because I'm sure I'd become crass if I was perpetually being called a death merchant POS regardless of things I've stated. If I'm going to be called a POS by people, fuck it, lean into it. I get that line of thought. 

What I can say, is that I can probably put pen to paper and come up with a dozen posters infinitely more obnoxious about guns than that guy, and it's not close, and that simply because he sells something that isn't illegal to sell for a living isn't a reason I understand to attack someone. Porn, Tobacco, Alcohol all kill people, and there's no one protesting outside convenience of liquor stores. Yes, I realize that isn't the same thing as slaughtered children in schools, it's an imperfect comparison. But we don't blame the vendors of those things for selling legal things.

If you want to go after his crassness, or his support of the NRA, or his support in general, have at it, I guess. I'm simply saying I don't understanding dragging his job into it. Honestly, his profession is pretty straightforward compared to insurance or pharmaceutical companies that also ruin lives for the sake of greed on an even grander scale, but that's just my opinion. My anger is truly centered at our politicians and our special interests and citizen untied and dark money and grievance politics and blanketing this country in fear for the sake of personal political power draped in greed fear that poisons our minds and turns us all against each other. But I guess that's me. I could care less if the motherfucker sells guns, honestly, he's not even remotely the problem. But far be it from me to tell a poster here not to be disgusted with another posted, I've got a laundry list of my own. I'm simply saying, I don't understand it, and based upon things I've read in regard to his willingness to support gun reform, he's not even close to the most odious motherfucker on this website. 

Edited April 20, 2023 by SydneyCarton

[royiv 9375]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Listen, I don't have perfect recall, and I don't have an elephant's memory of every player on every single gun thread we've had, which feels like a hundred or more at this point. But I have very clearly remembered him outlining the things I did initially, supporting red flag, increased background checks, eliminating 3rd party sales without oversight, etc. I can't speak to the NRA thing. I can't speak to crassness, because I'm sure I'd become crass if I was perpetually being called a death merchant POS regardless of things I've stated. If I'm going to be called a POS by people, fuck it, lean into it. I get that line of thought. 

What I can say, is that I can probably put pen to paper and come up with a dozen posters infinitely more obnoxious about guns than that guy, and it's not close, and that simply because he sells something that isn't illegal to sell for a living. Porn, Tobacco, Alcohol all kill people, and there's no one protesting outside convenience of liquor stores. Yes, I realize that isn't the same thing as slaughtered children in schools, it's an imperfect comparison. But we don't blame the vendors of those things for selling legal things.

If you want to go after his crassness, or his support of the NRA, or his support in general, have at it, I guess. I'm simply saying I don't understanding dragging his job into it. Honestly, his profession is pretty straightforward compare to insurance or pharmaceutical companies that also ruin lives for the sake of greed on an even grander scale, but that's just my opinion. My anger is truly centered at our politicians and our special interests and citizen untied and dark money and grievance politics and blanketing this country in fear for the sake of personal political power draped in greed fear that poisons our minds and turns us all against each other. But I guess that's me. I could care less if the motherfucker sells guns, honestly, he's not even remotely the problem. But far be it from me to tell a poster here not to be disgusted with another posted, I've got a laundry list of my own. I'm simply saying, I don't understand it, and based upon things I've read in regard to his willingness to support gun reform, he's not even close to the most odious motherfucker on this website. 

He doesn't support gun reform. Not in the least. You've been hoodwinked. He's also a pussy that carries a gun to Easter brunch. In this country, you get to choose your career and he chose to sell ARs by the hundreds.

[SydneyCarton 48203]

7 minutes ago, royiv said:

He doesn't support gun reform. Not in the least. You've been hoodwinked. He's also a pussy that carries a gun to Easter brunch. In this country, you get to choose your career and he chose to sell ARs by the hundreds.

If he wasn't just trying to tweak people, yeah, you can mock him all you want about taking a weapon into a house of god, because I agree, that's fucking stupid. As for the other, there are a lot of people who don't have much of a say in their careers in America. But you're right, I doubt he's one of those people. But if he's not doing something illegal and he can sleep at night, that's his prerogative, I guess. I couldn't fucking do it. 

As for the rest, maybe it's easier for @Handcruser to come and point out the exact gun reform items he does support for me, since it appears I've potentially been hoodwinked. 

Edited April 20, 2023 by SydneyCarton

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

If he wasn't just trying to tweak people, yeah, you can mock him all you want about taking a weapon into a house of god, because I agree, that's fucking stupid. As for the other, there are a lot of people who don't have much of a say in their careers in America. But you're right, I doubt he's one of those people. But if he's not doing something illegal and he can sleep at night, that's his prerogative, I guess. I couldn't fucking do it. 

As for the rest, maybe it's easier for @Handcruser to come and point out the exact gun reform items he does support for me, since it appears I've potentially been hoodwinked. 

He'll provide you a laundry list of things he 'supports'.

Then he'll vote for politicians that don't support a single one of them.

[royiv 9375]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

If he wasn't just trying to tweak people, yeah, you can mock him all you want about taking a weapon into a house of god, because I agree, that's fucking stupid. As for the other, there are a lot of people who don't have much of a say in their careers in America. But you're right, I doubt he's one of those people. But if he's not doing something illegal and he can sleep at night, that's his prerogative, I guess. I couldn't fucking do it. 

As for the rest, maybe it's easier for @Handcruser to come and point out the exact gun reform items he does support for me, since it appears I've potentially been hoodwinked. 

He doesn't agree with the Nazi party, he just pays his annual dues.

[SydneyCarton 48203]

Just now, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

He'll provide you a laundry list of things he 'supports'.

Then he'll vote for politicians that don't support a single one of them.

Yeah. That I fucking get and have already considered. I have plenty of friends that are fully on board with all kinds of things, so they say, but it's moot because they won't vote for anyone who supports it. It's maddening. But that's politics these days. But somewhat getting lost in this was my point that, there's a ton of motherfuckers here who won't even claim to "support" anything, nor even try to defend their positions, but gleefully just shit on everyone. 

2 minutes ago, royiv said:

He doesn't agree with the Nazi party, he just pays his annual dues.

I mean, I chuckled, but paying annual dues would in fact be agreeing. I think you're going more for "He doesn't pay annual dues, but he agrees with their policies." If he pays his dues, you're a card carrying member, right?

[Dahobbs 17694]

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I don’t disagree.  But it’s also not surprising when someone who’s been getting pummeled repeatedly when he essentially agrees with much of what is being said will eventually shut down and return fire. 

[RGBIII 22840]

20 hours ago, Proust Bag said:

My daughter would’ve been there had she not gotten a stomach bug. Weird how life works. Btw I’ve paid a small fortune to her cheer team, it’s a total racket. 

I know the Woodlands Elite life well my friend. Getting a third mortgage makes sense right?

[SydneyCarton 48203]

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

I'll remind you that I never once questioned your reaction on the other thread, or your defense of it. I was surprised to see where you fell on that behavior over here based on a misunderstanding. 

[Dahobbs 17694]

8 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I'll remind you that I never once questioned your reaction on the other thread, or your defense of it. I was surprised to see where you fell on that behavior over here based on a misunderstanding. 

Really, I just thought the use of the phrase was interesting due to the nature of this thread and the related ones. I wasn't relating it back to that at all. 

[Herbie Hancock 7376]

Has Handcruser ever made a personal attack or insulted anyone in any of these threads?

[Pato del Muerto 52616]

13 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

I know the Woodlands Elite life well my friend. Getting a third mortgage makes sense right?

Only one can be in first lien position- so just worry about that one?

[SydneyCarton 48203]

5 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Really, I just thought the use of the phrase was interesting due to the nature of this thread and the related ones. I wasn't relating it back to that at all. 

Actually, that's a good point. I'm sure Helobious will be right along to tell me that the usage of that term is proof that I jack off to the murdering children. 

Edited April 20, 2023 by SydneyCarton

[Pato del Muerto 52616]

31 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Actually, that's a good point. I'm sure Helobious will be right along to tell me that the usage of that term is proof that I jack off to murdering children. 

How many children are murderers?  Very niche fetish. 
 

well, the world don’t move to the beat of just one drum. 

Edited April 20, 2023 by Pato del Muerto

[SydneyCarton 48203]

3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

How many children are murderers?  Very niche fetish. 
 

well, the world don’t move to the best of just one drum. 

Goddamnit, you beat me just before I edited it. As you can see above, I'm sure you empathize. 

Edited April 20, 2023 by SydneyCarton

[TexasEd 8077]

Any info on the shooter yet?  History of criminal activity? Did he live in Elgin or was he from out of town too?  

The way he responded by following them to their car and shooting goes to either mental state or purpose for him being there and mental state.  I mean he's logically impaired either way but either he's just sick or he is sick and up to no good.

 

[Helobious 9467]

More info about victim… I know it infuriates @royiv and others on here, but there’s real stakes and real reasons kids and their parents do what they do in the select sports world. She had a scholarship to cheer at Baylor, likely due to her success at such a renowned gym. She wasn’t driving 6 hours round trip to tumble around just for fun like you think she was.
 

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Washington has traveled to Oak Ridge North three times each week for practice at The Woodlands Elite gym since she was 10 years old. The competitive cheer group has Texas locations in Oak Ridge North, Magnolia, Humble, Katy and Houston, as well as gyms in New York and Ohio. 

Washington is "a standout performer," Shearer said. She's a three-time Worlds silver medalist, 10-time National Cheerleading Association champion and four-time Majors champion. “She’s been a powerhouse since she was a little kid.”

Washington's accomplishments are that much more impressive when considering the medical setbacks she's suffered in her life. At 6 months old, her right lung was removed because of a cystic malformation, according to a Woodward cheer camp interview.

Her mother, Angela Washington, said in a previous video that when she was pregnant with Payton, doctors warned that her daughter wasn't expected to survive.

"Literally the entire pregnancy it was, 'She's not going to make it.' And if she did make it to term, she wouldn't make it through the delivery. They told me she would die," Washington said through tears. "I felt like it was a miracle. I mean, she had tons of people praying for her." 

 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

What a fucking bizarre tangent. You people.