2024 Transfer Thread - The Pedantic Circlejerk

[HenryJames 65849]

1 minute ago, Post Oak said:

My mom couldn't believe it and  made me try it on. 

[Js1 84995]

5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

As Js1 intimates, the guy who needed the tailored Texans Jersey was Iconoclast Texan, now known as Macklemore.

Elko could probably use the meth too 

[Sir Ulrich 5187]

 

A familiar name I believe

[Texasborn91 896]

6 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

 

A familiar name I believe

I like it, think we’d rather have a veteran back there though to pair up with Williams. 

[BurntOrange&White 39270]

1 minute ago, Texasborn91 said:

I like it, think we’d rather have a veteran back there though to pair up with Williams. 

[NoName 16265]

8 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

 

A familiar name I believe

real interested to see where Raymond lands and how many of the dudes he recruited follow him

[Zhorn96 1772]

5 hours ago, TheMailBox357 said:

Shocked to hear Gerry say on the Tuesday night livestream, that UT didn't push for Abor coming outta High School.

Found your speed, Ketch.  For your sake, I hope there is some pork/ham in these
 

[Post Oak 20174]

3 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

I like it, think we’d rather have a veteran back there though to pair up with Williams. 

Meanwhile on Surly..

[SydneyCarton 47809]

8 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

I like it, think we’d rather have a veteran back there though to pair up with Williams. 

AFter playing 30+ snaps a game all season, plus bowl practices and spring practice, I'm willing to call Derek Williams a veteran. He's about to be joined by other younger players, most likely, and unless the perfect safety hits the market, like say Bryce Anderson, I'm not sure I bite. Catalon is coming back, I believe. Warren Roberson has looked fucking great in practice. Nahlin says Jelani McDonald might be getting the safety or star treatment. Hampton, Rubell, and maybe Filisame are coming in looking to play. I think we still have Taffe. And the guys we're losing for depth will be addition by subtraction in the form of Crawford, Jerrin Thompson (fuck, doesn't he have a Covid year?), I'm assuming BJ Allen is gone, I'm assuming that Larry Turner-Gooden is gone. 

With the talent coming in, I'm just not sure we go after a safety unless they're elite already.  Safety isn't our biggest portal need, imo. 

Edited November 29, 2023 by SydneyCarton

[pacman 7282]

The Penn DT, Slackman, picked up an offer from Michigan.

[HtownHorn 14395]

I wonder if Jake joins Max in Chapel Hill.

[Red Five 40574]

28 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

AFter playing 30+ snaps a game all season, plus bowl practices and spring practice, I'm willing to call Derek Williams a veteran. He's about to be joined by other younger players, most likely, and unless the perfect safety hits the market, like say Bryce Anderson, I'm not sure I bite. Catalon is coming back, I believe. Warren Roberson has looked fucking great in practice. Nahlin says Jelani McDonald might be getting the safety or star treatment. Hampton, Rubell, and maybe Filisame are coming in looking to play. I think we still have Taffe. And the guys we're losing for depth will be addition by subtraction in the form of Crawford, Jerrin Thompson (fuck, doesn't he have a Covid year?), I'm assuming BJ Allen is gone, I'm assuming that Larry Turner-Gooden is gone. 

With the talent coming in, I'm just not sure we go after a safety unless they're elite already.  Safety isn't our biggest portal need, imo. 

Man, we need to do some major spring cleaning at safety. The roster in general is pretty lean and healthy, but um not there. Also someone mentioned Jordan moving to safety in the spring but don't know if that's a real thing.

[Fumbles 299]

12 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Man, we need to do some major spring cleaning at safety. The roster in general is pretty lean and healthy, but um not there. Also someone mentioned Jordan moving to safety in the spring but don't know if that's a real thing.

This.  There’s the potential for addition by subtraction with Crawford graduating, and we need to clean out some dregs.  BJ Allen couldn’t get snaps against Crawford and Taaffe, and has already been recruited over with Derek Williams.  Portal time for him.  And honestly, I hope Catalon moves on.  If his body can’t hold up for more than 10-20 snaps per game, his reps should go toward developing a successor.  

Edited November 29, 2023 by Fumbles

[NoName 16265]

10 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Man, we need to do some major spring cleaning at safety. The roster in general is pretty lean and healthy, but um not there. Also someone mentioned Jordan moving to safety in the spring but don't know if that's a real thing.

i mean the only guys on scholarship that Sydney didn't mention are Hyphen and BJ Allen who folks thought was going to portal out before now. . He mentioned 3 incoming recruits + freshman (Robinson + Williams), a senior (Catalon) and guys leaving (Crawford and Thompson) as well as Taffee.

the STAR position is going to be interesting next year to see what they do. Jordan, Guilbeau, and McDonald can't all see the field there.

the safeties on scholarship right now are Thompson, Catalon, Crawford + Taffee + Allen, Hypen + Williams and Roberson + incoming recruits that are some combo of JJE, Hampton and Filisame potentially.

so 2 of 11? seems pretty lean there to me.

[BurntOrange&White 39270]

On a video either this morning or last night the IT guys mentioned that Jelani McDonald will most likely work at safety and Gideon "won" the fight for his position.

[Red Five 40574]

6 minutes ago, NoName said:

i mean the only guys on scholarship that Sydney didn't mention are Hyphen and BJ Allen who folks thought was going to portal out before now. . He mentioned 3 incoming recruits + freshman (Robinson + Williams), a senior (Catalon) and guys leaving (Crawford and Thompson) as well as Taffee.

the STAR position is going to be interesting next year to see what they do. Jordan, Guilbeau, and McDonald can't all see the field there.

the safeties on scholarship right now are Thompson, Catalon, Crawford + Taffee + Allen, Hypen + Williams and Roberson + incoming recruits that are some combo of JJE, Hampton and Filisame potentially.

so 2 of 11? seems pretty lean there to me.

I quickly counted four safeties that should be encouraged to move on, which is roughly half of the current room. 

[Herbie Hancock 7296]

Elko could probably use the meth too 

How much weight you think Elko could shed if he jumped out a window and lost a leg?

[Vertigo 20225]

15 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I quickly counted four safeties that should be encouraged to move on, which is roughly half of the current room. 

Would that be considered the... Red Four?

[Beantown Express 2.0 6531]

18 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I quickly counted four safeties that should be encouraged to move on, which is roughly half of the current room. 

Was Taaffe one of them because to get that defense elite he needs to not play anymore or only in garbage time.  I know he has gotten some INT’s but man his missed tackles and bad angles hurt more than help.  Someone better paired with Williams would help a lot on the back end of that defense.  

[SydneyCarton 47809]

34 minutes ago, NoName said:

i mean the only guys on scholarship that Sydney didn't mention are Hyphen and BJ Allen who folks thought was going to portal out before now. . He mentioned 3 incoming recruits + freshman (Robinson + Williams), a senior (Catalon) and guys leaving (Crawford and Thompson) as well as Taffee.

the STAR position is going to be interesting next year to see what they do. Jordan, Guilbeau, and McDonald can't all see the field there.

the safeties on scholarship right now are Thompson, Catalon, Crawford + Taffee + Allen, Hypen + Williams and Roberson + incoming recruits that are some combo of JJE, Hampton and Filisame potentially.

so 2 of 11? seems pretty lean there to me.

Sir, I mentioned Hyphen. AND Allen as likely (my opinion) transfers. You've got Taffe, Catalon, Williams, Roberson, 3 incoming Freshmam (including Filsame) that are studs, of which I think 1 will be able to win snaps. You've also McDonald and Jordan, two guys who could probably cross train between Star and Safety. You say 11 bodies, and I see 9 bodies that can play safety, with a couple at star. That doesn't seem like all that big of a difference to me, espescially if we cut out the fucking heavy rotation bullshit and play more of our best players. So yeah, you add a Bryce Anderson level guy if he's there, and that's 10 bodies versus 11 to play the two safety spots. 

How is that lean?

Also, I'm guessing one of Hyphen or Allen (Hyphen) will stick through spring practice and see if they can make a dent. 

 

Edited November 29, 2023 by SydneyCarton

[NoName 16265]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Sir, I mentioned Hyphen. AND Allen. 

i have no clue how i missed that. they are clearly there in the quote.

[someguy 1469]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

AFter playing 30+ snaps a game all season, plus bowl practices and spring practice, I'm willing to call Derek Williams a veteran. He's about to be joined by other younger players, most likely, and unless the perfect safety hits the market, like say Bryce Anderson, I'm not sure I bite. Catalon is coming back, I believe. Warren Roberson has looked fucking great in practice. Nahlin says Jelani McDonald might be getting the safety or star treatment. Hampton, Rubell, and maybe Filisame are coming in looking to play. I think we still have Taffe. And the guys we're losing for depth will be addition by subtraction in the form of Crawford, Jerrin Thompson (fuck, doesn't he have a Covid year?), I'm assuming BJ Allen is gone, I'm assuming that Larry Turner-Gooden is gone. 

With the talent coming in, I'm just not sure we go after a safety unless they're elite already.  Safety isn't our biggest portal need, imo. 

I wouldn't count on the bolded.

[Red Five 40574]

9 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Was Taaffe one of them

Nope. I think he's one of our two best safeties right now, which is in and of itself an issue. 

[SydneyCarton 47809]

3 minutes ago, NoName said:

i have no clue how i missed that. they are clearly there in the quote.

I've got a pretty good idea, and it involces being distracted:

[Da Fino 2715]

37 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

On a video either this morning or last night the IT guys mentioned that Jelani McDonald will most likely work at safety and Gideon "won" the fight for his position.

McDonald is already showing flashes of elite shit-talking. Hoping it works out for that dude. 

[SydneyCarton 47809]

1 minute ago, someguy said:

I wouldn't count on the bolded.

Shrug. We didn't really count on him this year either. So its the same lottery ticket at the position, IMO. 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6531]

1 minute ago, Red Five said:

Nope. I think he's one of our two best safeties right now, which is in and of itself an issue. 

Yes, yes that is an issue and why he needs to be upgraded over via the portal most likely.  Sadly, you are correct in he is probably one of the two best on the roster which kind of baffles me.

[irishtexan 11435]

24 minutes ago, Herbie Hancock said:

How much weight you think Elko could shed if he jumped out a window and lost a leg?

Dude won't have to jump out of a window to lose a leg. The beetus is gonna take care of that for him, it seems. 

[SydneyCarton 47809]

Just now, Da Fino said:

McDonald is already showing flashes of elite shit-talking. Hoping it works out for that dude. 

Considering all the McDonald to linebacker talk, when I saw him play he was smaller than I expected. Granted, he hasn't had a full nutrition and weight cycle yet, but safety seems a good fit. Dude looked smaller than Catalon. 

[BurntOrange&White 39270]

13 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Sir, I mentioned Hyphen. AND Allen as likely (my opinion) transfers. You've got Taffe, Catalon, Williams, Roberson, 3 incoming Freshmam (including Filsame) that are studs, of which I think 1 will be able to win snaps. You've also McDonald and Jordan, two guys who could probably cross train between Star and Safety. You say 11 bodies, and I see 9 bodies that can play safety, with a couple at star. That doesn't seem like all that big of a difference to me, espescially if we cut out the fucking heavy rotation bullshit and play more of our best players. So yeah, you add a Bryce Anderson level guy if he's there, and that's 10 bodies versus 11 to play the two safety spots. 

How is that lean?

Also, I'm guessing one of Hyphen or Allen (Hyphen) will stick through spring practice and see if they can make a dent. 

 

I think Guilbeau/Roberson end up being our stars

McDonald, Filsaim, JJR, Taaffe, Catalon, Williams at safety

At corner we have Holmes, Muhammed, Brooks, Black's, and another freshmen

Add in a certain 5 star recruits brother at corner and I personally feel our secondary will be alright. We're stacked at corner and safety should be young but better and more athletic than this year. 

Edited November 29, 2023 by BurntOrange&White

[AP101S 1480]

I added a 2024 tab to the depth chart spreadsheet. I removed everyone that walked on Senior Recognition Day, although some might come back. I also removed Worthy and Mitchell since they'll be declaring for the NFL. I'm sure there will be others declaring as well (Ewers, Sanders), but I'm leaving them until I see something more definitive. Not sure about the positions of the RS FR, especially Edge/Buck vs. SAM, so suggestions are welcome.

Link to the 2024 sheet:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TzoBTIvCXfZIk7Sz3C9txMg0yPvrXyVM/edit#gid=1682239859

Here's the defense:

[Reynolds Woodcock 4652]

37 minutes ago, Fumbles said:

 And honestly, I hope Catalon moves on.  If his body can’t hold up for more than 10-20 snaps per game, his reps should go toward developing a successor.  

Yeah, I’d prefer not to turn down 10-20 snaps of pretty good safety play after what we’ve seen this year. 

[ClubWhatever 12082]

6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Considering all the McDonald to linebacker talk, when I saw him play he was smaller than I expected. Granted, he hasn't had a full nutrition and weight cycle yet, but safety seems a good fit. Dude looked smaller than Catalon. 

You sure you haven't gone full katfid, because he's 6'2 and Catalon is 5'10 in heels. 

Edited November 29, 2023 by ClubWhatever

[Atticus 3914]

Bigger from a size standpoint. Catalon is 5'9-5'10, 200+

McDonald is 6'2ish 195. He thought McDonald would be thicker...NTTAWWT

[BurntOrange&White 39270]

 

 

[SydneyCarton 47809]

5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I think Guilbeau/Roberson end up being our stars

McDonald, Filsaim, JJR, Taaffe, Catalon, Williams at safety

At corner we have Holmes, Muhammed, Brooks, Black's, and another freshmen

Add in a certain 5 star recruits brother at corner and I personally feel our secondary will be alright. We're stacked at corner and safety should be young but better and more athletic than this year. 

If you think Roberson is a Star, then you need to add Austin Jordan to the safety group, which is another body. 

I don't give a fuck about Corner, we're going to be fine there. 

3 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

You sure you haven't gone full katfid, because he's 6'2 and Catalon is 5'10 in heels. 

See below.

Just now, Atticus said:

Bigger from a size standpoint. Catalon is 5'9-5'10, 200+

McDonald is 6'2ish 195. He thought McDonald would be thicker...NTTAWWT

Ding Ding Ding. Hence why I referenced a full year of nutrition and strength and conditioning. 

[RGBIII 22764]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

 

 

"We could use an off ball linebacker, bring him in"- Ian Boyd probably

[BurntOrange&White 39270]

11 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

If you think Roberson is a Star, then you need to add Austin Jordan to the safety group, which is another body. 

I don't give a fuck about Corner, we're going to be fine there. 

See below.

Ding Ding Ding. Hence why I referenced a full year of nutrition and strength and conditioning. 

I'm not sure exactly where Roberson ends up. Jordan could be backup star but it seems Guilbeau will be the guy there next year. 

Could Wilson with his pedigree fill that role? Sucks he's not an EE.

I do agree completely with you that safety(secondary) isn't the top portal need outside of a Bryce Anderson type.

[HateYouAndMyself 828]

1 minute ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Yes, yes that is an issue and why he needs to be upgraded over via the portal most likely.  Sadly, you are correct in he is probably one of the two best on the roster which kind of baffles me.

Taaffe ends up looking like our better safety because he at least knows what the fuck he is supposed to be doing out there. Thompson and Crawford essentially guarantee the other team will get free TDs every game due to their completely busted coverages and failures to adjust.

 

[Fumbles 299]

11 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

Yeah, I’d prefer not to turn down 10-20 snaps of pretty good safety play after what we’ve seen this year. 

I appreciate Catalon’s aggression in filling a lane, but he’s missed as many of those killshots as he’s hit this year.  The coaches don’t trust him in deep coverage, whenever he’s in he plays flat-footed within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.  And even in that short coverage area, it’s not like he’s been Earl Thomas, I don’t think he’s even sniffed a pick this year.  He’s just not the same player that won freshman AA honors at Arkansas.  If we could deploy him for 10-20 snaps a game in critical situations to give the defense a tangible boost, sure, but that’s not the effect he’s having.  His reps should go to a player who can develop into a solution at safety, rather than a limited band-aid.

[Mr. Mojo Risin' 2205]

A lot of y'all including Filsaime in the DB group next year.  Is he a silent flip?

Edited November 29, 2023 by Mr. Mojo Risin'

[NoName 16265]

3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I think Guilbeau/Roberson end up being our stars

McDonald, Filsaim, JJR, Taaffe, Catalon, Williams at safety

At corner we have Holmes, Muhammed, Brooks, Black's, and another freshmen

Add in a certain 5 star recruits brother at corner and I personally feel our secondary will be alright. We're stacked at corner and safety should be young but better and more athletic than this year. 

this would be the result of a lot of shuffling of positions on the back end. i would think with all the injury issues at field safety that led to Crawford playing a good bit mean they would have already moved some of those guys to that position instead of letting them sit that deep on the depth chart but who knows.

DB room:

• Holmes/Brooks/Brice/Mack? play field CB (i think on the recruits)
• Muhammad/Black? play boundary CB (i think on the recruits)
• Guilbeau/Jordan/McDonald are on the depth chart at STAR
• Taffee/Willams/JJR?/Hampton?/Filisame? play boundary safety (i think on the recruits)
• Catalon/Allen/LTG play field safety

i assume Austin Jordan and Xavion Brice quit the team in your scenario? Jordan has been an -OR- at backup STAR with Gilbeau all season a far as I know.

Roberson has been on the depth chart at CB behind Watts and Muhammad, not STAR.

McDonald has been on the depth chart at STAR behind Barron, Guilbeau/Jordan, not Safety.

i don't have the snap counts / where but Jordan has played in every game and Gilbeau started the one game (at STAR i assume) that Barron didn't but has only played in 6 games total. i assume Austin Jordan is on ST somewhere.

Brice hasn't participated in any games. LTG isn't even on the participation report (Brice is) and Allen participated in the first game of the year but none since.

[Bevo 13468]

21 minutes ago, AP101S said:

I added a 2024 tab to the depth chart spreadsheet. I removed everyone that walked on Senior Recognition Day, although some might come back. I also removed Worthy and Mitchell since they'll be declaring for the NFL. I'm sure there will be others declaring as well (Ewers, Sanders), but I'm leaving them until I see something more definitive. Not sure about the positions of the RS FR, especially Edge/Buck vs. SAM, so suggestions are welcome.

Link to the 2024 sheet:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TzoBTIvCXfZIk7Sz3C9txMg0yPvrXyVM/edit#gid=1682239859

Here's the defense:

--Bryce Anderson would be nice.

--We need a LB to portal in.

--DL will take a big step down from Murphy and Sweat. I think we will need a DL to portal in, also.

 

 

[BurntOrange&White 39270]

2 minutes ago, NoName said:

this would be the result of a lot of shuffling of positions on the back end. i would think with all the injury issues at field safety that led to Crawford playing a good bit mean they would have already moved some of those guys to that position instead of letting them sit that deep on the depth chart but who knows.

DB room:

• Holmes/Brooks/Brice/Mack? play field CB (i think on the recruits)
• Muhammad/Black? play boundary CB (i think on the recruits)
• Guilbeau/Jordan/McDonald are on the depth chart at STAR
• Taffee/Willams/JJR?/Hampton?/Filisame? play boundary safety (i think on the recruits)
• Catalon/Allen/LTG play field safety

i assume Austin Jordan and Xavion Brice quit the team in your scenario? Jordan has been an -OR- at backup STAR with Gilbeau all season a far as I know.

Roberson has been on the depth chart at CB behind Watts and Muhammad, not STAR.

McDonald has been on the depth chart at STAR behind Barron, Guilbeau/Jordan, not Safety.

i don't have the snap counts / where but Jordan has played in every game and Gilbeau started the one game (at STAR i assume) that Barron didn't but has only played in 6 games total. i assume Austin Jordan is on ST somewhere.

Brice hasn't participated in any games. LTG isn't even on the participation report (Brice is) and Allen participated in the first game of the year but none since.

IT said that McDonald is going to work at safety in the spring.

Brice was in vs Tech, not that it matters much. 

Judging by what IT has said about Kobe and potentially Korie we're good at corner depth with the names you listed.


I'm with Sydney that LTG and Allen are gone....

Edited November 29, 2023 by BurntOrange&White

[closetojumping 62033]

27 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

IT said that McDonald is going to work at safety in the spring.

Brice was in vs Tech, not that it matters much. 

Judging by what IT has said about Kobe and potentially Korie we're good at corner depth with the names you listed.


I'm with Sydney that LTG and Allen are gone....

It's great that we're fine with losing certain guys, so they're the guys that we'll lose, right? I hope that's the case across the entire roster, but I expect some pain. Specifically at OL, but likely elsewhere too. DB wouldn't necessarily surprise me.

[MuellerHorn 4152]

30 minutes ago, Bevo said:

--Bryce Anderson would be nice.

--We need a LB to portal in.

--DL will take a big step down from Murphy and Sweat. I think we will need a DL to portal in, also.

 

 

Yeah, this is my biggest concern for next season - especially if Collins and Carter leave.

[SydneyCarton 47809]

If we lose some of the young guys at DB, then absolutely, we're going to be needing to hit the portal fairly aggressively. 

If we can retain everyone but Allen and Hyphen, I think we're ok. 

The OL is almost certainly going to give us all some heartburn this offseason. 

[BurntOrange&White 39270]

On 11/29/2023 at 10:50 AM, closetojumping said:

It's great that we're fine with losing certain guys, so they're the guys that we'll lose, right? I hope that's the case across the entire roster, but I expect some pain. Specifically at OL, but likely elsewhere too. DB wouldn't necessarily surprise me.

I think these are guys we could lose:

BJ Allen
Casey Cain
Isaiah Neyor
Larry Turner-Gooden
X'Avion Brice
Charles Wright
Sawyer Goram-Welch
Payton Kirkland - Although he has a significant knee injury that will likely hold him out next year as well.
Juan Davis
Zac Swanson
Maalik Murphy
Maybe another 2023/2022 OL that was in backup role not named Neto.
 

Edited December 6, 2023 by BurntOrange&White

[NoName 16265]

7 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

It's great that we're fine with losing certain guys, so they're the guys that we'll lose, right? I hope that's the case across the entire roster, but I expect some pain. Specifically at OL, but likely elsewhere too. DB wouldn't necessarily surprise me.

OL will have to see some attrition

have to imagine some of the RS FR class leaves just because they are going to get recruited over. Neto has been long talked about as a guy who was interested in moving, wonder if his brother staying changes anything? or if he can actually compete w/ Conner next year?

i can't see a world where Texas keeps ALL the tackles (Goosby/Chatman/Cojoe) especially if Baker comes in and does anything. same for Robertson if Cruz comes in and kicks ass.

this is the first time in well over a decade that the thought of losing someone like Neto or Agbo wouldn't cause our OL to completely collapse.

[BurntOrange&White 39270]

4 minutes ago, NoName said:

have to imagine some of the RS FR class leaves just because they are going to get recruited over. Neto has been long talked about as a guy who was interested in moving, wonder if his brother staying changes anything? or if he can actually compete w/ Conner next year?

Both of Neto's brothers will be joining the program next year. Zina has a twin that is a safety who will be a PWO for us namee Ziky Umeozulu. And for the love of god lets hope Neto beats out Conner

Edited November 29, 2023 by BurntOrange&White