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  On 12/7/2023 at 10:34 PM, closetojumping said:

No. Not because I don't want to do so. It's probably a combo of everything you mentioned and then some. I just know that there's a ton of interest and the guys they're bringing in are guys at the top of a lot of lists. It probably helps that Texas isn't in need of QBs or TBs from the portal. The price of poker is higher on those two roles versus any other.

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Obviously I loved Bijan and our history of great running backs, but when does the college market catch up to the NFL? Yes Brooks is a talented back but we lost one of the best running backs of the past decade and our run game didn't miss a beat because our OL got better at it. To me it would have to be a Bijan level proven talent at the P5 level to get into a crazy war for a transfer.

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  On 12/7/2023 at 10:40 PM, Huckleberry said:

Obviously I loved Bijan and our history of great running backs, but when does the college market catch up to the NFL? Yes Brooks is a talented back but we lost one of the best running backs of the past decade and our run game didn't miss a beat because our OL got better at it. To me it would have to be a Bijan level proven talent at the P5 level to get into a crazy war for a transfer.

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Those guys don't exist, and even if they did, Texas is almost plug and play in the running game right now. Another year of development from the OL and it will be plug and play.

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  On 12/7/2023 at 10:40 PM, Huckleberry said:

Obviously I loved Bijan and our history of great running backs, but when does the college market catch up to the NFL? Yes Brooks is a talented back but we lost one of the best running backs of the past decade and our run game didn't miss a beat because our OL got better at it. To me it would have to be a Bijan level proven talent at the P5 level to get into a crazy war for a transfer.

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I'm not sure that it will. Many RBs will be (materially) plug-and-play in favorable schemes or when accompanying elite OLs, but an elite RB at the college level can completely change the trajectory of an already good team. In the NFL, they're worried about durability over multiple contracts, and thus don't want to commit big money long term. With a finite number of years in college, especially with it only being one (maybe two) year assuming we are discussing a RB transfer, I just don't see the market variables playing out in the same fashion as the NFL.

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It's a huge help that the state of Texas pumps out so many college players each year.  It appears there are always going to be a handful of good players at schools out of state that want to come home.

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Posted (edited)
  On 12/7/2023 at 10:47 PM, Reese Bennett said:

Not yet. We need you to draft a Sark speech that would convince the portal players to come to Longhornland.

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Here's what ChatGPT has to say on the matter. I love the bits about NIL at the end haha

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  On 12/7/2023 at 10:43 PM, MuellerHorn said:

I'm not sure that it will. Many RBs will be (materially) plug-and-play in favorable schemes or when accompanying elite OLs, but an elite RB at the college level can completely change the trajectory of an already good team. In the NFL, they're worried about durability over multiple contracts, and thus don't want to commit big money long term. With a finite number of years in college, especially with it only being one (maybe two) year assuming we are discussing a RB transfer, I just don't see the market variables playing out in the same fashion as the NFL.

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The durability is a very small part of it even if the teams talk about that to placate fans. The reality is it started with the Broncos churning out one 1,000 yard rusher after another by picking up backs off the scrap heap. In the NFL you're looking at 10-15 yards per game that an elite running back will add in value over a replacement. Not an average back, a replacement level back.

I agree that it's higher in college because of worse defenders on average along of course with the higher player population necessarily lowering replacement level, but the value just isn't there. Moving from average to elite at running back isn't worth the squeeze if the effort is approaching the same as doing the same at QB.

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  On 12/7/2023 at 10:40 PM, Huckleberry said:

Obviously I loved Bijan and our history of great running backs, but when does the college market catch up to the NFL? Yes Brooks is a talented back but we lost one of the best running backs of the past decade and our run game didn't miss a beat because our OL got better at it. To me it would have to be a Bijan level proven talent at the P5 level to get into a crazy war for a transfer.

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It's a good question and one I've asked myself.

I don't think there are that many similarities at TB between the CFB realm and the NFL that ultimate merit the discounting of the position at the CFB level. There's a notion of plug and play, but only for truly elite OL programs, I think.

There's not a lot to worry about regarding wear and tear - a TB breaking down by 28 years old is an NFL problem. Not at the Bijan level, which is generational talent, but I do think there are elite (versus the field that year) TBs every year and if one enters the portal, most programs have to be interested. Etienne is earmarked for Georgia, but if he wasn't, I doubt there'd be more than 5 schools that wouldn't at least reach out. Texas just happens to be one of those schools right now that wouldn't reach out. 

Frankly, the worse the OL, the more desperate a program probably gets in the portal for TBs because there just aren't enough quality OLs entering the portal, and when they do, everyone is going after them. 

  On 12/7/2023 at 10:44 PM, Gil Bang said:

 

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I don't know when I originally went on the "stop worrying about the fucking numbers" rant, but a conversation with someone about Hyphen probably spurred it. I was talking to a buddy and LTG had resurfaced as a guy that they might take late.

Me: "Why is Texas making a move for Hyphen? I thought they were off of him."

Friend: "I don't think Texas is going to worry about the numbers much while Sarkisian is running things. They're taking him because they can and they like his attitude."

Me: "Okay, fine, but does that guy ever make the 2 deep? I don't see it."

Friend: "Maybe he's great at special teams. Why are we talking about the last guy in the class? Who gives a shit?"

Okay then. Good luck to Hyphen, in any event. 

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  On 12/7/2023 at 9:41 PM, closetojumping said:

Has anyone confirmed from the Texas side that they're seriously interested in this guy? He has injury risk, damned good WRs are all over the portal, and Texas has a ton of options. I'm not saying they're not putting an effort in for him, but I'd like to see someone credible confirming that.

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He played with Diamante Tucker Dorsey at James Madison, so I think a lot of the backchanneling has been from that. 

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  On 12/7/2023 at 10:11 PM, Post Oak said:

We won't be as good up the middle next year but if we are able to add Moore to Simmons along with what we've already got there's not going to be a lot of comfortable QBs next year.

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Florida State has shown what you can do with elite edge play, and it is arguably a lot more chaotic for the offense than elite DT play. 

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  On 12/7/2023 at 11:24 PM, Vertigo said:

He played with Diamante Tucker Dorsey at James Madison, so I think a lot of the backchanneling has been from that. 

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FWIW - Tucker-Dorsey said that Wells was the best player he ever played with and that he also went harder in practice than any teammate.

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Posted
  On 12/7/2023 at 9:48 PM, RGBIII said:

Backburner guy is what I have heard. He is the floor of our WR search, Purdue guy is number 1 for WRs in the portal currently

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  On 12/7/2023 at 11:22 PM, Hiphopopotamos said:

Gerry (IT) said this morning you'd need a stopwatch to time how quickly Sark would be on the phone with Golding if he went into the portal.

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Purdue kid is now second on the board for WR already in the portal

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  On 12/7/2023 at 11:22 PM, Hiphopopotamos said:

Gerry (IT) said this morning you'd need a stopwatch to time how quickly Sark would be on the phone with Golding if he went into the portal.

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A ton of talent but still very raw. I hope we take 3 receivers to be on the safe side. He had six drops through the first 3 games this year.

I think Raleek Brown and Golden are both high-upside weapons, but we need two accomplished receivers to go along with them. 

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  On 12/8/2023 at 12:14 AM, Sandbagging Steve said:

A ton of talent but still very raw. I hope we take 3 receivers to be on the safe side. He had six drops through the first 3 games this year.

I think Raleek Brown and Golden are both high-upside weapons, but we need two accomplished receivers to go along with them. 

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If you take 3 guys with skins on the wall you’re gonna lose a young guy you don’t want to lose.

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  On 12/8/2023 at 12:14 AM, Sandbagging Steve said:

A ton of talent but still very raw. I hope we take 3 receivers to be on the safe side. He had six drops through the first 3 games this year.

I think Raleek Brown and Golden are both high-upside weapons, but we need two accomplished receivers to go along with them. 

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Yes - and then didn't have another drop for the rest of the year.

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Posted (edited)
  On 12/7/2023 at 8:46 PM, Hornlover said:

Yeah, had a good sophomore season, but disappeared this year. Not sure he's worth going after for Texas, but an interesting portal addition nonetheless.

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Ja'Corey Brooks was injured all year, shoulder. Not a take anyway, but just fyi

 

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  On 12/8/2023 at 12:15 AM, cafe society said:

Elic Ayomanor  (should he enter or be "tampered with")
Golden

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Had to Google him and am now aware of the terrifically named city of Medicine Hat, Alberta.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Medicine_Hat_Valley.png

All those oil shuttle flights down from Calgary would make it easy on his family.

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