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Democratic pollster Nancy Zdunkewicz on Monday said on Hill.TV that most Americans, no matter where they are from or their politics, are in an anti-corporate mood, saying that voters from every demographic are "upset with corporations."

"Americans are also in a deeply anti-corporate mood," Zdunkewicz, managing director at Democracy Corps, told Hill.TV's Jamal Simmons on "What America's Thinking." 

"Whenever you do focus groups, and you ask people, 'what do you think about big corporations?' Or 'what do you think about CEO's of large companies, you cannot get more negative reactions. I mean the words are just dirty," she continued. 

"It doesn't matter if you're talking to white working-class Trump voters, or if you are talking to college-educated white voters in an urban area, it does not matter. They are very upset with corporations. They think that they have sold us out," she said. 

Zdunkewicz's comments come as Americans have voiced growing concerns over the role of big tech companies, and whether they should be regulated. 

A new Hill-HarrisX poll, released on Monday, found that 47 percent of voters said that large tech firms should be regulated.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is running for president in 2020, last week called for breaking up Silicon Valley's largest companies, saying that the tech giants have gained "too much power over our economy, our society, and our democracy."

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/433541-dem-pollster-says-americans-are-in-a-deeply-anti-corporate-mood

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fwiw, i am loving the range of this democratic field. different ages, levels of experience, genders, sexual orientation, backgrounds, ethnicities, ideas, etc.

THIS is what a 'big tent party' looks like. the contrast with the 'diversity'  of the 2016 republican candidates is...stark.

i dig it.

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#Buttimentum

According to the Buttigieg aide, the mayor raised more than $600,000 from over 22,200 donations in the 24 hours after the CNN town hall. The number is even more significant, the aide said, because the committee employs 20 staffers, lean when compared to other Democratic operations.

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2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Democratic pollster Nancy Zdunkewicz on Monday said on Hill.TV that most Americans, no matter where they are from or their politics, are in an anti-corporate mood, saying that voters from every demographic are "upset with corporations."

"Americans are also in a deeply anti-corporate mood," Zdunkewicz, managing director at Democracy Corps, told Hill.TV's Jamal Simmons on "What America's Thinking." 

"Whenever you do focus groups, and you ask people, 'what do you think about big corporations?' Or 'what do you think about CEO's of large companies, you cannot get more negative reactions. I mean the words are just dirty," she continued. 

"It doesn't matter if you're talking to white working-class Trump voters, or if you are talking to college-educated white voters in an urban area, it does not matter. They are very upset with corporations. They think that they have sold us out," she said. 

Zdunkewicz's comments come as Americans have voiced growing concerns over the role of big tech companies, and whether they should be regulated. 

A new Hill-HarrisX poll, released on Monday, found that 47 percent of voters said that large tech firms should be regulated.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is running for president in 2020, last week called for breaking up Silicon Valley's largest companies, saying that the tech giants have gained "too much power over our economy, our society, and our democracy."

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/433541-dem-pollster-says-americans-are-in-a-deeply-anti-corporate-mood

Curious rant by Warren considering the “tech executive” that hosted a fundraiser for her here in Austin just moments ago.  

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18 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Buttigieg twitter following is picking up. 

February 1st. - around 100k

March 1st - around 150k

Pre-Town Hall yesterday - 160k

Right now - 191k. 

 

I think his patience with formally announcing will pay off. Town Hall officially got his name out there, contributions picking up, then a formal announcement of his candidacy in the near future to keep the Buttimentum (credit: Dave Weigel) going. 

 

 

 

Since his announcement – I hadn't heard of him prior to watching his launch video – I've been talking about him to everyone who will listen. Recently I've been getting random texts from those people "I'm really liking this mayor from South Bend", which is great to hear. 

With Pete, it's all about people getting exposure to him. His ideas a fresh, bold, and he's easily the best communicator of anyone running. He needs to be on the debate stage.

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Behold the misleading and deceptive bullshit that is politico.
The important word in this article is EMPLOYEES.  
I’m pretty sure employees of every sector have given personal donations to every major candidate.
 
Everyone misuses this shit. Get ready for tons of attacks about how much Beto took from the "Oil and Gas Industry"

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Tech and O&G are both problematic industries, but it's apples and oranges. One is about a more ambiguous threat to our social fabric and the other is an existential threat to the existence of human life on Earth.

A candidate taking $200+ from an individual Google employee is not, to me, nearly the same as taking $200+ from an Occidental employee.

And it's definitely not the same as taking money from the PACs and front groups.

It's going to be a sticky wicket for him, and rightfully so. I'm confident he'll figure it out, though.

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3 hours ago, Fozzz said:

Mayor Butt is hereby cancelled.

 

 

I'm not going to listen to the interview, but from the tweet I am assuming that he believes R Kelly and Michael Jackson are innocent. Or maybe not innocent, but he doesn't think what they did should be a crime. This Buttgig guy just locked up my vote.    

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b_t's predictions:

- His immediate poll lead will grow 10+ points (He'll be in the 40s, Sanders in the 20s, etc...)

- His run will dominate headlines and the "quick, drag all of his skeletons out of the closet!" stuff with suffocate basically all the media oxygen

- Candidates whose current base is old people will lose the most voters to him

- Howard Schultz will not officially drop out and will find a way to say Biden is too liberal and crazy

- The behind-the-scenes establishment hucksters will begin eating each other alive

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5 hours ago, Fozzz said:

Mayor Butt is hereby cancelled.

 

 

That doesn't sound good to me either. The fact that he was a military intelligence officer in Afghanistan is probably why he feels this way.

Here is the Soundcloud audio from their short interview: 

 

 

"As somebody who was tasked with handling sensitive information - information that could get people killed - I took an oath and I made promises that I would handle it responsibility. When you're involved in divulging classified information that could harm American troops overseas that is not something to be taken lightly."

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A 40% increase in delegate allocation in the first 45 days of the primary process this time around over 2016.  Supers have had their reigns pulled in on first ballot.  

 

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8 minutes ago, 406W30th said:

Biden will be labeled as the guy who can "win the moderates", only to go on and get zero votes from the #NeverTrump Republicans while failing to turn out anyone under 65.

 

Yep, it's a trap and a significant portion of Dem voters are falling for it right now. 

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I'm for Castro, but if Biden were to come out and state unequivocally that he'd only run for one term with the rightly anointed VP on his ticket, I'd probably vote for him.  Pull our your "ageism" bullshit if you want to, but not even a Delaware Democrat is voting for a Biden second term.  Nobody wants an 86 year old as President in 2028.  

Why can't a pudgy, 6'3" Trump hurt his hip like every other giant 73 year old I know?  

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Something to keep in mind for the Iowa Precinct Caucus rules... you only get delegates if you get 15+% of the vote. If you are not "viable" (i.e., you get less than 15% total), then your delegates go proportionally to viable candidates.

There are two candidates whose floor is 15+% and both of them look like the guy who drank from the wrong cup in Last Crusade. Joe Biden & Bernie Sanders

Then...

Stacey Abrams
Cory Booker
Pete Buttigieg
Julian Castro
John Delaney
Tulsi Gabbard
Kirsten Gillibrand
Andrew Gillum
Kamala Harris
John Hickenlooper
Jay Inslee
Amy Klobuchar
Beto O'Rourke
Elizabeth Warren
Andrew Yang

B_T's Mind Palace Iowa Possibility

Biden: 32%
Sanders: 28%
Beto O'Rourke: 11%
Kamala Harris: 10%
Elizabeth Warren: 8%
Andrew Yang: 3%
Pete Buttigieg: 3%
Cory Booker: 2%
Field: 3%

Only Biden and Sanders get delegates, with everyone else's split proportionally. Sanders ends up getting a net benefit from "establishment" candidates.

Oops.

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8 minutes ago, Lobo said:

if Biden were to come out and state unequivocally that he'd only run for one term with the rightly anointed VP on his ticket, 

I love this fantasy.  If Biden did that, it would almost be a clear admission he’s the wrong guy for the job.  He would be giving the Republicans an advantage with no incumbent in 2024.  Also, how does he know the country would better off with someone else as president in 2025?  What if there’s a major global crisis that demands his experience and leadership?

 Is he just going to say, “Well, I made that campaign promise back in 2019 so I guess I’ll step aside because I’d rather watch the world burn than be a proven liar.”

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Then what's a bigger fantasy, an idea I just gently suggested for Biden that would likely corral more non-hardcore Democrat voters or the youth vote turning out for a guy in 2024 that'll be 86?  

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Then what's a bigger fantasy, an idea I just gently suggested for Biden that would likely corral more non-hardcore Democrat voters or the youth vote turning out for a guy in 2024 that'll be 86?  

The Biden one term thing is what never Trump non-democrats want.  It’s adorable because it presumes Democrats should want to pander to this demographic for their own self interest when it does nothing but help Republicans down the road. 

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48 minutes ago, Lobo said:

I'm for Castro, but if Biden were to come out and state unequivocally that he'd only run for one term with the rightly anointed VP on his ticket, I'd probably vote for him.  Pull our your "ageism" bullshit if you want to, but not even a Delaware Democrat is voting for a Biden second term.  Nobody wants an 86 year old as President in 2028.  

Why can't a pudgy, 6'3" Trump hurt his hip like every other giant 73 year old I know?  

This is risible.

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On the way back from Marfa yesterday, we listened to a Pod Save America interview with Buttigieg. He was very impressive. He sounds like he has actually thought hard about a variety of issues. I feel this is where he’ll have an advantage over Beto and Kamala. He just has “it”. Not sure if he has the chops quite yet for 2020, but his time will for sure come. He’s got my support. 

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Behold the misleading and deceptive bullshit that is politico.
The important word in this article is EMPLOYEES.  
I’m pretty sure employees of every sector have given personal donations to every major candidate.
 


Replace Warren with random Republican and you would be eating it up.
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20 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

So is Beto going to announce it what? I’m growing bored of his “I’ll announce soon...maybe...I’ve decided, but I’m not saying yet...but soon!” Make a decision and do it already. 

Beto and Biden are both figuring out the money.

Warren has set a hard marker for the standards of how candidates should raise money and Bernie has set the bar high for amount to raise even within that very strict framework. If you're Biden and Beto, you have to beat Bernie's fundraising because you're not coming in as some fringe, insurgent candidate. If Biden, especially, doesn't beat Bernie then that will be a massive disappointment because he's really supposed to be the anointed.

Number of pre-existing donors is a huge problem for people not named "Bernie Sanders" and "Beto O'Rourke".

Bernie: 2.1M
Beto: 743k
Warren: 343k
Gillibrand: 272k
Harris: 239k
Booker: 56k
Klobuchar: 38k
Biden: ???

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1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I still think effective messaging is the primary factor for this race.  The money will follow.  

Yes, but the money helps get the message out.

Also, you have to actually have a message.

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