2020 Democratic Nominee

[bad_teammate 13195]

1 minute ago, TXSooner518 said:

So your position is anyone with a legit complaint over any policy or vote by any candidate, regardless of when it occurred, has a right to stand and just scream at a candidate and the candidate is obligated to nod and say "uh huh, right, sure, I told you that bitch crazy, uh huh" until the filibuster ends?

Fine with walking away, but trying to use his dead son as an emotional shield in that case is pathetic.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11819]

2 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Aren't we out of Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria? 

Uh, no, we're not.

[Bruh Man 3160]

22 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Because when Joe secured that endorsement Clyburn said he wasn't going to endorse anyone. So why would Bernie try to get an endorsement from someone who had pledged not to endorse anyone? Bernie should've been trying to get Clyburn to break his pledge?

 

18 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

If Sanders had reached out to him - what would be your argument?  Let me help you:  "Sanders went to Clyburn and asked him to break his pledge to not endorse. By doing that, Sanders threatens SC's First in the South status."  You see the problem, don't you?

I respect Clyburn, but let's not pretend his endorsement was Sanders' fault. The reporter you relied on didn't tell you all of the story. No conspiracy. She is not well-informed. 

Just because he said he wasn't going to endorse, doesn't mean you don't try to engage him and change his mind. Just like he's fighting for the support of Trump voters, he should have done the same for Clyburn. The fact that Clyburn broke whatever unwritten rule he had for himself should show you how little he thinks of Bernie and how pitiful Bernie's alliances are within the party.

[TXSooner518 2438]

Just now, Dbeasy said:

Lack of voting for the Democratic candidate is supporting Trump. You can try to reframe the action any way you like but the bottom line is that you will be partially responsible for putting him back in office, and he is a disaster. You are enabling a disaster.

 

I'm aware some people will see it that way. Why isn't lack of voting for Trump supporting the Dem candidate? Same exact argument.

The people who had 4 years to come up with a candidate in what they see as the most important election in history and came up with a senile octogenarian groper are the enablers. 

[Goredho 17406]

38 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

SS:  "Just vote for Biden"

I am pretty sure the SS does not want us to vote for Biden.

[Huckleberry 32859]

1 minute ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

Uh, no, we're not.

Well okay but other than the 20,000+ troops still in those places aren't we out of those places?

[Zavala 1384]

Just now, mdmost said:

I'm voting for any Democratic that makes it the convention over Trump. Not a boomer. Not moving to Canada. But keep with your pathetic Trump forum talking points. It's amusing to watch your flail about today. 

Thanks for answers, I'll continue to flail for your amusement.

Trey Gowdy on Biden's speaking:

"He looks like a chain smoker filling a gas tank"

 

[bad_teammate 13195]

9 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Yeah, you seem like a real "support the troops" kind of guy.

I don't want soldiers to have to endure war needlessly and I think they should be given excellent benefits. I think politicians who lie to send them to war should go to jail.

I don't know what you mean by "support the troops", but if it's a neo-con attack from you against me then I guess I don't?

[bad_teammate 13195]

1 minute ago, Bruh Man said:

Just because he said he wasn't going to endorse, doesn't mean you don't try to engage him and change his mind.

Ah so this was never a good-faith critique in the first place, good to know.

Cool

[workswithseed 2104]

2 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

 

Lack of voting for the Democratic candidate is supporting Trump. You can try to reframe the action any way you like but the bottom line is that you will be partially responsible for putting him back in office, and he is a disaster. You are enabling a disaster.

 

Nah, I think the libertarian party will get one extra vote this year.

 

Just now, TXSooner518 said:

I'm aware some people will see it that way. Why isn't lack of voting for Trump supporting the Dem candidate? Same exact argument.

The people who had 4 years to come up with a candidate in what they see as the most important election in history and came up with a senile octogenarian groper are the enablers. 

Two, the only difference one likes Castro and the other likes to sniff hair.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11819]

Just now, Huckleberry said:

Well okay but other than the 20,000+ troops still in those places aren't we out of those places?

Well you see we say we're out, so we're out.  Except when we're in.  Interesting actual fact:

 In 2017, the Department of Defense stopped providing military deployment figures for Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. The official deployment data also does not include troops that are "deployed in support of contingency operations," according to the Department of Defense's latest reports.

[TXSooner518 2438]

3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Fine with walking away, but trying to use his dead son as an emotional shield in that case is pathetic.

"My kid served in Iraq" is a perfectly valid response to "you don't care about the people who served in Iraq."  Jesus Christ, stop making me defend this guy.

[mdmost 43001]

1 minute ago, Zavala said:

Thanks for answers, I'll continue to flail for your amusement.

Trey Gowdy on Biden's speaking:

"He looks like a chain smoker filling a gas tank"

 

Fox News. More wonderful, trustworthy sources for Joe Biden analysis. 

[mdmost 43001]

1 minute ago, workswithseed said:

Nah, I think the libertarian party will get one extra vote this year.

 

Two, the only difference one likes Castro and the other likes to sniff hair.

Cool. Because all those Gary Johnson votes were really worthwhile last time. 

[henrygandorf 29191]

1 minute ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

Well you see we say we're out, so we're out.  Except when we're in.  Interesting actual fact:

 In 2017, the Department of Defense stopped providing military deployment figures for Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. The official deployment data also does not include troops that are "deployed in support of contingency operations," according to the Department of Defense's latest reports.

i was told that starting in 2017, things would be completely transparent.

[Foosters 17856]

1 minute ago, mdmost said:

Fox News. More wonderful, trustworthy sources for Joe Biden analysis. 

You gotta hand it to Zavala. He's trying. A Fox News video is a far cry from his usual "analysis" which is just some guy ranting in a basement.

[mdmost 43001]

I'm waiting for him to have something from Zero Hedge. 

[TXSooner518 2438]

Cool. Because all those Gary Johnson votes were really worthwhile last time. 

Only way to get parties to stop nominating bags of shit is to not vote for bags of shit. Worthwhile to me.

[workswithseed 2104]

Just now, mdmost said:

Cool. Because all those Gary Johnson votes were really worthwhile last time. 

Nope, but i'll stand on principal. Last time I didn't vote, but this time I will and I'll be okay with it.

 

[mdmost 43001]

1 minute ago, TXSooner518 said:

 

Only way to get parties to stop nominating bags of shit is to not vote for bags of shit. Worthwhile to me.

 

Ha ha. No it won't. 

[Ghost of LL 15531]

18 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

He's waiting for Biden to pick Michelle.

I'll tell you what--if he picks Michelle as his running mate, it's game fucking over, man.  He does that, he might win 45 states.

[SimonBolivar 10958]

5 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Cool. Because all those Gary Johnson votes were really worthwhile last time. 

At least some of us learned our lesson and won't make the same mistake twice.

[Zavala 1384]

5 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Cool. Because all those Gary Johnson votes were really worthwhile last time. 

[David Dennison 18856]

2 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I'll tell you what--if he picks Michelle as his running mate, it's game fucking over, man.  He does that, he might win 45 states.

Michelle Obama is not going to be his running mate, but Barack Obama is going to endorse him in a very big way, setting up November as Barack Obama v. Donald Trump.

I like Barry's chances.

[Blotto 23506]

16 minutes ago, TXSooner518 said:

I'm aware some people will see it that way. Why isn't lack of voting for Trump supporting the Dem candidate? Same exact argument.

The people who had 4 years to come up with a candidate in what they see as the most important election in history and came up with a senile octogenarian groper are the enablers. 

This is the sad reality. The democratic party was handed a goddamn layup for this election cycle, and they still managed to fuck it up. I'm gonna have to get shitfaced drunk before forcing myself to vote for this dipshit. So be it. 

Its a goddamn disgrace.  My most realistic hope at this point is that Trump and Biden will get into an alpha-male noogie contest at the first debate and both stroke out. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by Blotto

[Ghost of LL 15531]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Michelle Obama is not going to be his running mate, but Barack Obama is going to endorse him in a very big way, setting up November as Barack Obama v. Donald Trump.

I like Barry's chances.

You don't think?  Because it's totally a move that I could see Biden doing.

[David Dennison 18856]

Just now, Ghost of LL said:

You don't think?  Because it's totally a move that I could see Biden doing.

I don't think Michelle Obama wants anything to do with Washington politics.

[RDCanecutter 26441]

12 minutes ago, Zavala said:

 

The technicians in charge of designing Gowdy's human skin have made bets about how far outside the norm they can take it and not get caught.

[mdmost 43001]

I'd argue the last election was the real layup. This one, Trump at least has a decent economy going for him. He didn't have almost full GOP unwavering support the last time around. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by mdmost

[henrygandorf 29191]

1 minute ago, Blotto said:

I'm gonna have to get shitfaced drunk before forcing myself vote for this dipshit. So be it.  

username checks out.

[BradInATX 9208]

My plan to vote for Bernie and jinx him worked perfectly.
I am the world's greatest shit lib.

[David Dennison 18856]

Just now, mdmost said:

I'd argue the last election was the real layup. This one, Trump at least has a decent economy going for him. 

Judging from what we are seeing in black voter turnout and enthusiasm for Joe Biden, I think re-election just got a whole lot more difficult for Donald Trump.

[bad_teammate 13195]

5 minutes ago, TXSooner518 said:

"My kid served in Iraq" is a perfectly valid response to "you don't care about the people who served in Iraq."

How? I know it's a good politician response because I look like an asshole for questioning it, but how is that an answer to the accusation.

Ok, cool, he cares about his kid, what about the other fathers' sons he sent off to die for bullshit? Is the fact that he was too stupid to see through the obvious lie some kind of boon? Are we supposed to just say, "Ah hell, we all make mistakes!" and forget about it? Why was he so cavalier with the lives of those other kids?

Regarding disqualified, the guy is right about Joe. I'll vote for him if he wins, but that doesn't mean I believe I believe he's qualified. I preferred literally every other non-Bloomberg to him and by a mile. Give me Tulsi over Joe.

 

A GOOD answer would be to prove the guy wrong (not with aggressiveness, but with compassion), discuss what he's going to do NOW to make up for the horrible horrible thing he did to all of those veterans.  "I respect that you feel that way and I am so sorry for all the sacrifices that happened because of my vote, but here is how I am going to try to make it up..."

This is the #1 job of a president, and Joe has already shown us he's not capable of handling it.

[washparkhorn 9939]

10 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

The fact that Clyburn broke whatever unwritten rule he had for himself should show you how little he thinks of Bernie and how pitiful Bernie's alliances are within the party.

It wasn't an unwritten rule. It was a pledge Clyburn made to secure SC as one of the first primaries when they were competing with Miss, AL and Mich. That was a big get for Clyburn. The objection to SC was the weight of Clyburn's endorsement, so he pledged not to make one. 

Clinton threatened him in 2008. Bernie was smart to not walk into that trap. C'mon. Try to be reasonable here. 

Clyburn:

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In November, before MSNBC’s Democratic forum, a reporter asked the longtime congressman whether he would endorse in the race. Clyburn detailed why he wanted to stay out of it:

I think that most South Carolinians know that when we were in the battle to try and get South Carolina to be one of the four states in the primary window, we were opposed — we were in competition with Mississippi, Alabama and Michigan. And one of the arguments that was being made against South Carolina was that Jim Clyburn would get active in the campaign, would ruin the validity of the effort, and people will not be prone to come to this state if he takes sides. And I was asked, ‘could I stay out of the primary? Could I refuse or resist endorsing anybody before the primary?’ I promised them that I would. In 2008, I never endorsed anyone until after the primary was over … in 2016 I’m not going to endorse until after the primary is over.

. . . Passions ran high after Clyburn endorsed Barack Obama in 2008 when the South Carolina primary was over. Clyburn wrote in his memoir that former President Clinton called him past 2 a.m. one night to deliver a message: “If you bastards want a fight, you damn well will get one,” Clinton told him.

 

https://www.postandcourier.com/free-times/blogs/clyburn-broke-a-promise-in-endorsing-hillary-clinton-will-it/article_23e56499-8710-5a8a-b782-801bab8acd73.html

[mdmost 43001]

And that guy still would've said "YOU'RE DISQUALIFIED" as that's what he was there to do and give someone their video clip to run online. 

[bad_teammate 13195]

Just now, mdmost said:

And that guy still would've said "YOU'RE DISQUALIFIED" as that's what he was there to do and give someone their video clip to run online. 

OK, and Joe would've gotten a clip of him being a measured, calm, capable, and strong moral leader.

[Zavala 1384]

6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Michelle Obama is not going to be his running mate, but Barack Obama is going to endorse him in a very big way, setting up November as Barack Obama v. Donald Trump.

I like Barry's chances.

 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

5 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I'd argue the last election was the real layup.

Yeah, But Hillary Clinton can't jump.

[Zavala 1384]

Just now, Cheeseweasel said:

Yeah, But Hillary Clinton can't jump.

[Ghost of LL 15531]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I don't think Michelle Obama wants anything to do with Washington politics.

I don't know.  Maybe.

In the meantime, Warren is apparently "weighing her future."  If she doesn't fold up her tent now and endorse Biden, she's a worse politician than I think.

Biden is going to win.  That much has become apparent.  And Biden knows how to offer shit to get a deal done--that has also become apparent over the past week.

Biden can offer all sorts of things.  All of Warren's various plans can make it into the platform.  She can be the named sponsor on a bunch of legislation.  And Biden can promise that the administration will prioritize her legislation.  For all of her shortcomings as a candidate, she cares about her policy positions.  And that offer is going to be too good to pass up.

Bernie can offer none of that because he isn't going to win.  You don't need a crystal ball to see that.  Bloomberg quitting guarantees Biden's outcome.

And anyway, Bernie is a guy who doesn't offer shit.  He insists that you bend the knee.  But he'll offer nothing to encourage you to do so.  The Clyburn story reflects that (and spare me the "Clyburn promised not to endorse" nonsense--there's the same story floating out there for Beto, for Kamala, for Steyer, for Booker, for Castro--all people who one could conceive of endorsing Bernie).

Now, if Warren is incompetent, she'll get out of the race and not endorse anyone.  And she'll let her leverage fall by the wayside.  Her leverage will evaporate, and she'll get nothing when she ultimately does endorse Biden at the convention.

[BradInATX 9208]

BTW anyone who believes Zavala or workswithseed voted anything but Trump in 2016 should be shot into the sun for being a gullible idiot.

[Hank Kingsley 20935]

6 minutes ago, Blotto said:

This is the sad reality. The democratic party was handed a goddamn layup for this election cycle, and they still managed to fuck it up. I'm gonna have to get shitfaced drunk before forcing myself to vote for this dipshit. So be it. 

Its a goddamn disgrace.  My most realistic hope at this point is that Trump and Biden will get into an alpha-male noogie contest at the first debate and both stroke out. 

It wasn’t for a lack of trying. There were two dozen D candidates. But Kamala was a “cop”, Pete was a “racist”, Beto was a “furry” and they were all cast off as centrists or “Republicans” by the left. 

Warren tried to play both sides and ended up being rejected by leftists and moderates.

Biden was the only non-Bernie candidate where the attacks didn’t stick, due to being so established and well known. 

[GoldAppleCorps 619]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Judging from what we are seeing in black voter turnout and enthusiasm for Joe Biden, I think re-election just got a whole lot more difficult for Donald Trump.

This x1kabillion.

Black folks stayed home in 2016 - convinced (rightly or wrongly, by legitimate or psy-ops) that they weren't wanted or respected. The result was, well, we know what the result was.

Joe Biden spent a career in politics cultivating the respect of the black community. He didn't just start running ads in "Jet" magazine (is that still a thing?). He's listened, talked, negotiated and acted. The trust is earned.

As a quick refresher for the "can't vote for either of them" crowd: Practically nothing on the President's agenda is actionable by the President. Landmark change proposed by Warren or Sanders will require wholesale changes to our appropriations and revenue. Those will require Congress to act. It won't be easy, but let's say it's doable. Let's say that legislation is written and passed by both Houses. Student loan forgiveness, healthcare overhaul, civil rights legislation, etc is sitting there on the President's desk.

Which party is likely to sign it?

If you're in for Bernie, you're in for the Dem nominee - whomever that is. Otherwise, you just like winning voting contests.

[TXSooner518 2438]

This is the sad reality. The democratic party was handed a goddamn layup for this election cycle, and they still managed to fuck it up. I'm gonna have to get shitfaced drunk before forcing myself to vote for this dipshit. So be it. 

Its a goddamn disgrace.  My most realistic hope at this point is that Trump and Biden will get into an alpha-male noogie contest at the first debate and both stroke out. 

One good thing is they are both in the extreme coronavirus danger zone age bracket.

And yeah 2016 was a layup too and the Dems came up with another bag of shit. Enough people enabled that by voting for that bag of shit that they went back to the well. I won’t support it. I would vote for every Dem nominee from 1992-2012 over Trump. I don’t know enough about Dukakis to say for sure.

It’s just amazing that the party that could/should be representing the future is coming down to two guys who are 158 years old combined. Their combined lifespan would reach back to the fucking Civil War.

[Thetexashammer 1062]

24 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I'm waiting for him to have something from Zero Hedge. 

Only for you, hoss.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/six-reasons-why-covid-19-fails-sniff-test

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Given how Coronavirus has been reported, coupled with how it’s been handled, its dubious origins, the alleged number of infected and deceased, as well as the age and general health of those who are reported to have died... something stinks.

As I indicated in my last article, it seems Coronavirus has, indeed, become the new Terrorism®.  The dark powers want the panic. They need the hysteria. Why? For diversion, control, or all the above.

There can be no doubt the mainstream media is NOT trying to downplay COVID-19. Just the opposite.  Except what makes this latest remarketing of coronavirus different than 911®, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and The War on Terror, is that, this time, the Alternative Internet is on board – even to the point of citing Orwellian Media sources.

In any event, healthy skepticism is not close-mindedness, per se, because we may one day have a genuine pandemic on our hands.  But Coronavirus® doesn’t present the way one would expect if real.  Instead, the hysteria has a sort of Y2K vibe to it all.

So I ask you, Dear Reader, what if all the numbers and the reporting regarding the contagiousness, infectivity, and mortality of Coronavirus® were completely erroneous? Or, worse…, complete bullsh*t like the Russian Dossier and the whistleblower behind Operation Ukrainian Impeachment.

What if the Chinese were punked?

What if every single human being on earth who has ever lived, has had coronaviruses in their system at one time or another and the math was exactly the same?

What if SARS and MERS were similar psyops played out…. when? During peak flu season.

Because, if all the fundamentals are wrong, then so will be the conclusions.

Let us count the ways Coronavirus® fails to pass the sniff test:

1.) The Hype

Again, this blogger’s speculation is that Coronavirus is the remarketing of coronavirus via COVID-19®, and the selective reporting is the hype.  Because this urgency behind Coronavirus in the news makes African AIDS look like the sniffles.

It also has become completely obvious that certain names/entities consistently appear in the COVID-19® coverage (in both the mainstream and alternative media): The Gates Foundation, John Hopkins University, and UK’s The Guardian.

From last fall:  Event 201, a pandemic exercise to illustrate preparedness efforts

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences.

(More on that in # 3 below)

And this from a few days ago:

Governments Will Use The Coronavirus Card To Downgrade Estimates And Increase Interventionism

The John Hopkins University Coronavirus Global Cases Monitor shows that the mortality rate of the epidemic is very low. At the close of this article, 87,470 cases, 2,990 deaths and 42,670 recovered.

It is normal for the media to focus on the first two figures, but I think it is important to remember the last one. The recovered figure is more than ten times the deceased one. This should not make the reader ignore the epidemic, but it is also worth reading the scientific study that shows that the death rate in citizens under 60 is less than 1.3%, 0.2% in young population, and on average it is a maximum of 4% (“The Epidemiological Characteristics of an Outbreak of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Diseases”, February 2020).

Additionally, the John Hopkins people have been incessantly interviewed throughout the cable news universe.

Now consider the timeline:  On Sunday, February 2, 2020, the first COVID-19 death outside of China was reported:

Global development

Coronavirus: first death outside China recorded as total fatalities pass 300

Man from Wuhan has died in a Philippines hospital, says WHO, as Xi Jinping orders 1,400 more medical workers into Wuhan

Global development is supported by
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

Sun 2 Feb 2020 11.08 EST

Indeed. The Gates Foundation. And the hits keep coming.

What about the timing of the first recorded COVID-19® death that occurred outside of China? It was one day before the Iowa Caucuses were held (2-3-2020) where the results were massaged to raise Mayor Pete over Bernie and bump Biden to the bare minimum viability.

It was also two days before the Diamond Princess cruise ship was quarantined in Japan (more on this in # 4 below) and three days before Trump was acquitted in the Senate.

Certainly, it would be a stretch to believe the hype behind a “new” global virus would be geared to somehow affect the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election… but in the age of 911, Russiagate, and Operation Ukrainian Impeachment – would anything surprise me?

Nope. Probably not.

However, it could be that everything we’re seeing regarding COVID-19 is real; which would be amazing since it would be the first time in decades the Orwellian Media got it right. Maybe even the first time ever.

And, now, it’s been reported Coronavirus® “threatens to disrupt” the 2020 Campaign.

Empty stadiums and no more selfie lines? Coronavirus becomes 2020 X-factor.

If the virus does spread, the mechanical implications for campaigns could be profound.

And what about The Guardian? Always The Guardian:

Coronavirus: Pence defends Trump Jr claim Democrats want ‘millions’ to die | World news | The Guardian

Why, those tenacious Brits are everywhere. Even on the ground in Washington State?

Coronavirus: Washington state nursing home placed on lockdown | World news | The Guardian

Because Coronavirus® is everywhere. All day. Every day.

An especially good benchmark is what’s being reported via cellphone apps because these are primarily what the Bubbleheads see. The headlines are also queued onto internet browsers and e-mail platforms.

This from Yahoo News recently:

Global virus death toll tops 3,000 as cases soar around world

But after several paragraphs of doom, we read, way down the page, that the second death in Washington State was…

….a man in his 70s with underlying conditions….

Again, nothing to sneeze at, but still not the Bubonic Plague either, as it seems to be presented in the media.

Like SARS, coronavirus is pneumonia. But is COVID-19® worthy of the hype with a 1-3% mortality rate?  Especially, when most of those who have died were considered “medically high risk”?

Again, it seems the panic over COVID-19® is causing more problems than the virus itself.

So maybe Churchill had a point when he said: “The only thing to fear is fear itself.”

According to the World Health Organization (WHO):  pneumonia killed 808,694 children under the age of 5 in 2017, accounting for 15% of all deaths of children under five years old.

That’s 67,000+ a month! Little kids dying around the world.

Where were the headlines?

But COVID-19? Less than 100,000 infected and a little more than 3,000 reported deaths at the time of this writing. And that’s the John Hopkin’s numbers.  But even IF the reporting was bogus and the mortality rate was as high as 6 to 11% as some have claimed, then wouldn’t faulty reporting mean the number of infected could be higher as well? And wouldn’t that reduce the mortality rate also?

Furthermore, if COVID-19 spreads so easily, then why only less than 100,000 cases worldwide?  Especially considering that China is the most populous nation on earth.

Now consider that Aspiration Pneumonia has a mortality rate of 21% overall, 29% hospital-associated, and 30-62% in “older, sicker patients”.

And, according to the CDC Weekly U.S. Influenza Surveillance Report:

CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 32 million flu illnesses, 310,000 hospitalizations and 18,000 deaths from flu.

Honestly, it seems COVID-19 has even less stamina worldwide than Joe Biden on the campaign trail.

The New England Journal of Medicine has speculated that coronavirus could be no worse than the flu:

An editorial published Friday in the New England Journal of Medicine speculated that the coronavirus currently causing panic in world markets could turn out no worse than “a severe seasonal influenza” in terms of mortality.

So is COVID-19 real or is it a marketing gimmick?  How would you know for sure?

2.) “The Eyes of Darkness”

Paradoxically, Coronavirus Was Eerily Predicted in a 1981 Novel:

…Throughout his career, [Dean] Koontz wrote under several pen names including David Axton, Deanna Dwyer, K.R Dwyer, Brian Coffey, and Leigh Nichols. It is with this last pen name that Koontz wrote the novel The Eyes of Darkness in 1981 – a “suspense thriller” that is causing even more “suspense thriller” nearly 40 years after its original publication.

….the virus is called Wuhan-400 because it was developed at their “RDNA labs outside of the city of Wuhan”. As you might know, the epicenter of the actual Coronavirus outbreak is in Wuhan.

The severe “pneumonia-like illness” was to “spread throughout the globe” in what year?  Answer:  “in 2020”.

 

The story also featured a scientist named Li Chen which is an amazing coincidence considering a guy by the name of Li Wenliang was the actual COVID-19 whistleblower in Wuhan who, by the way, was a 33-year-old ophthalmologist. Yes. An eye doctor.

Coronavirus kills Chinese whistleblower ophthalmologist – American Academy of Ophthalmology

The 33-year-old doctor was the first to raise the alarm about the coronavirus in late December. Using the Chinese social media platform Weibo, Li attempted to warn his colleagues about a cluster of SARS-like pneumonia cases. As his posts went viral, he realized that he “would probably be punished.” Within days, he was summoned by Chinese officials and forced to sign a letter accusing him of “making false comments” that had “severely disturbed the social order”. A copy of that letter was later posted on Weibo.

Following the incident, Dr. Li returned to work and, unfortunately, contracted the virus from an asymptomatic glaucoma patient…

So, let’s see…

• 2020

• Wuhan, China

• Pneumonia-like illness

• Spread throughout the globe

• Li Chen (when Li Wenliang was the actual whistleblower  –  an actual eye doctor)

Kind of adds a whole new dimension to 2020 vision, no?

3.) October, 2019: “Event 201” in New York City & the 2019 Military World Games in Wuhan, China

Most sources point to December 2019, or January 2020, as the beginning of Coronavirus®.  In truth, it started in October 2019 – when the Event 201 conference took place in New York City and at the exact same time the 2019 Military World Games were holding its opening ceremonies.

The video embedded below is the Gates Foundation / John Hopkins “Event 201 Pandemic Exercise” highlight reel.  It was posted on 11-4-2019 and showcases “GNN” (simulated) “news anchor reports” designed to generate (simulated) urgency:

In accordance to my last article entitled: “The Pluses and Minuses of Perceived Slyness, Stuffed Sinuses, and Coronaviruses”, note how the above video demonstrates a real-world U.N. Contingency Team (a consistent Hollywood remedy) arguing for increased centralization and coordination between the U.N. and World Health Organization (WHO) with “private sector supply chains”.

Beginning at the 7:01 mark, the “GNN Simulation” factors how “THE PANDEMIC IS CAUSING A GROWING GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS” – followed by commentary from real-life Chinese and U.S. CDC officials.

At the 8:15 mark, the GNN news simulation addresses how portions of the internet were shut down to “quell panic”.

And, if you don’t believe Coronavirus® is about control, then watch the “Scenario Epilogue” from the 10:03 mark to the end.

Keep in mind the “Event 201” exercise occurred in October 2019 and corresponded exactly with the 2019 Military World Games, hosting 110 nations and thousands of military members from around the world in… yes… WUHAN CHINA…. amidst a “malaria” outbreak in what we now know to be as ground zero of the Coronavirus outbreak weeks before the virus was first reported.

Accordingly, the Global Times posted an article entitled “Five foreign athletes from military world games in Wuhan infected with malaria, not COVID-19 in October, 2019: hospital head”, that has since been scrubbed from the internet.  However, here is a screenshot showing the search result as proof the article once existed:

 

Do you believe in coincidence or conspiracy?  You’re probably right.

4.) The Diamond Princess

Remember the Diamond Princess Cruise ship where the coronavirus quarantine was described to be a disaster?

On February 4, 2019, the day before Trump was acquitted in the senate, the ship was first quarantined with 2,666 guests and 1,045 crew members on board.

The Guardian reported the following on 2-5-2020

Of a further 273 people on board who have since been tested, 31 results had come back and of those 10 were positive, Japan’s health minister, Katsunobu Kato, said on Wednesday. It is not clear whether more tests would be carried out. None of the 10 infected people – three each from Japan and Hong Kong, two Australians, one American and one Filipino crew member – had severe symptoms, public broadcaster NHK said.

Separately, health checks began on 1,800 passengers and crew on a second cruise ship docked in Hong Kong, after 30 staff members reported symptoms including fever, according to Reuters.

 By Feb 8th it was reported 63 people were ill and by Feb 10th, 24 Americans were said to be suffering from coronavirus.

Then, a week later, the cruise line itself updated the following on their website: 169 new cases on February 18th and the “end of the quarantine and disembark process” on February 19th and 20th.

Seriously? Really?

According to one report so far, six people who were on the Diamond Princess have now died with 705 of the 3,711 infected = a 19% infection rate within a poorly handled quarantine.  We also know at least two of the deceased were in their eighties.

Given the quarantine began a month ago – either the incubation process takes longer – or – the death rate is far lower than 6-11% as some are now claiming – or the testing or reporting is FUBAR?

Regardless, something is off. Because shouldn’t we be hearing more dire news on the Diamond Princess passengers by now? Especially given the first-person accounts of the overall sloppiness of the quarantine itself; and the alleged high infectivity of the virus.

Now consider this: Infected U.S. passengers aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship were brought to Travis Air Force Base in northern California . Then, days later, the media exploded over the first case of “unknown origin” in California. Except, reports said…

It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.

Oh, and where was this person infected via “unknown origin”? Answer:

California officials said the person is a resident of Solano County

And guess where Travis Air Force Base is located? You guessed it: Solano County California – just northeast of San Francisco.

So I ask you: Do the governing authorities and media want the virus to spread or the fear of the virus to spread?

Now consider another first-person account:

“I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn’t that bad.”

By Carl Goldman, The Washington Post|February 28, 2020:

I caught the virus on the Diamond Princess…

….Our test results had not arrived before we boarded buses for the airport, where two U.S. government planes waited for us.

…As we took off from Tokyo, I had a bit of a cough…

…When I woke up, I had a fever..

…So I took a seat in the quarantine area and fell back asleep until we touched down in California, at Travis Air Force Base…

…Officials from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention came onto the plane and said that three of us who had been cordoned off would fly to Omaha (with our spouses, if they wanted to come along). The CDC had a quarantine location at the University of Nebraska’s hospital

It’s also true that some of the Diamond Princess passengers were flown to Lackland Air Force Base in Texas.

So… let’s see… before their test results were back, authorities migrated infected Americans from a cruise ship to buses and then airplanes. Then, they planted the highly infectious patients, and their spouses, in California, Texas, and Nebraska.

What could possibly go wrong?

Oh, yeah. Oops!

CDC Accidentally Releases ‘Diamond Princess’ Evacuee Who Tested Positive For The Virus

and

Coronavirus patient released from isolation in San Antonio later tested positive

Even Dean Koontz could not have imagined it better.

5.) Control

These just in… like clockwork; and right on schedule:

Epidemics like coronavirus are putting a spotlight on contactless biometrics

This is a guest post by Mohammed Murad, vice president, global sales and business development, Iris ID.

The world is in the grip of a coronavirus epidemic the impact of which extends well beyond people’s health…

And

Coronavirus: China to boost mass surveillance machine, experts say

KEY POINTS

The Chinese government has enlisted the help of technology companies to create products to help contain the spread of the coronavirus.

Technologies from drones to facial recognition are being used to track people.

Experts told CNBC that the ramp up in surveillance could continue even after the virus is contained.

 

and

Vexed by how to contain virus, countries take tough steps

and

Schools shut, travel curbed as world races to fight coronavirus

It also appears Americans must prepare for “significant disruption” and Orange Man bad:

CDC warns Americans of ‘significant disruption’ from coronavirus

U.S. health officials issued a strong warning about novel coronavirus on Tuesday despite remarks from the Trump administration stating they have the situation under control.

Until now, health officials said they’d hoped to prevent community spread in the United States. But following community transmissions in Italy, Iran and South Korea, health officials believe the virus may not be able to be contained at the border and that Americans should prepare for a “significant disruption.”

Once again, it could be this latest incarnation of coronavirus is a real killer and the mortality rates now being reported are completely bogus.

Perhaps the Chi-coms started the conflagration to smoke-out the protests (and protesters) in Hong Kong.  This slick embedded video (right here) shows cell-phone footage of the crackdown in China.  Perhaps this is the real suppressed news regarding Coronavirus®.  It would certainly qualify as a possible motive – and opportunity. And, relatively speaking, Wuhan / Hubei province is in (somewhat) close proximity to Hong Kong – and, even, Taiwan.

Or maybe the global financial elite wanted to burn down China’s economy and cause civil strife in order to secure Hong Kong and/or Taiwan. Or it could be the globalists desire the Asian flu to spread like wildfire around the globe in order to centralize power with a new world order and cashless financial system.

It’s also possible the Centralizers have been trying to light just the right-sized fire for some time with the burning matches of Bird flu, Swine flu, SARS, MERS, et al, all of which, so far, have extinguished upon the damp grass of the human immune system – and prior to the flames taking hold.

It could be they got it just right this time.

If I believed in coincidences, I might even say it could be naturally occurring.

Maybe the time has come – and, as the musician Frank Zappa previously predicted, the “illusion” has become “too expensive” to maintain” and we’re now about to “see the brick wall at the back of the theater”.

It any event, it appears Coronavirus® has arrived on schedule and at the perfect time.  And here is an article speculating on why:

5+ NWO Agendas Accompanying the Coronavirus Epidemic

1. Centralized Control of Information, i.e. Censorship and Narrative Control

2. The Cashless Agenda

3. Martial Law Quarantines

4. Mandatory Vaccination

5. Bill Gates’ ID2020: Digital Identification via Microchipping

6. Agenda 2030: Wuhan Slated to be one of China’s Smart Cities

7. Is the Coronavirus Epidemic a Race-Based Bioweapon?

Again…, a bad cold, a bioweapon, or a Biblical plague: At this point, what difference does it make?

6.) Considerations Regarding COVID-19, Trump, & the Economy

It is very interesting how the same people who, just a few weeks ago, were talking about Trump taking the blame for any economic downturn prior to the election, are now accepting of the current market carnage as due to Coronavirus.  And this is no surprise because the Orwellian Media has universally blamed the COVID-19® outbreak for the economic volatility.

Here is another example from one of the largest news sources in the digital bubble, Yahoo, which is incessantly spraying smart devices around the globe:

Coronavirus has ravaged the stock market and the extreme selling may just be starting

Proceed with caution, value-seeking investors. The hammer job done on stocks at the hands of the spreading coronavirus may just be getting started if history and common sense are any guides.

….The current correction spurred by fears of the coronavirus morphing into a global pandemic — where $2.5 trillion has been wiped off the value of U.S. stocks since last Wednesday’s high per S&P data — is approaching the average bull market percentage pullback. But the losses have come in only four days and there remains significant uncertainty as to how bad Corporate America’s profits will be hit.

Won’t coronavirus take Trump off the perception hook for the economy? Because the global financial elite COULD have crashed the markets and then blamed Trump (and Brexit) for the sins of nationalism, populism, tax cuts and trade isolationism.

 

But now, if COVID-19 takes the blame, how can the Dem’s tack it to Trump before the November election? Because, right now, the only ones who look bad are those who are politicizing the outbreak = Trump’s opponents and the media.

So, what are the implications? And will they matter?

There remains the possibility that COVID-19 could actually help Trump get reelected; especially if the virus (with its low mortality rate) fizzles in the sun like SARS.

Keep in mind Trump also initiated a travel-ban in January as a response to COVID-19 – a move that as widely ridiculed by his opponents.

And if this was a manmade and/or marketing campaign to burst the bubble, what do you suppose are the actual implications of that? Think it through very carefully because the ramifications are yuge.

No matter what, it remains to be seen if Coronavirus is one of the best things to happen to Trump prior to November 3, 2020. Or the worst.

Conclusion

There are far better depopulaters than COVID-19 – like AIDS in Africa, as an example. But… advertising works.

Ask yourself what would happen if the headlines were all exclaiming COVID’s 98% survival rate. And perhaps an even better question is why the headlines are NOT exclaiming COVID’s 98% survival rate.

What is the real propaganda here?

Propaganda:

:the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person

:ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one’s cause or to damage an opposing cause

Who do you believe? W.H.O.? The CDC? The Orwellian Media? The Democratic presidential candidates? Team Trump? The Drudge Report? The Alternative Internet?

Why?

Because, it seems Coronavirus® has all the appearance of “hype”– like it’s being milked for all it’s worth. Like trying to prop up Joe Biden with duct-tape and knee-braces to stumble across each state’s primary finish line.

But, to be sure, the public reactions, including within the financial markets, are real. Just like clockwork. And I do believe vaccines and quarantines have the potential of being more dangerous than common, or even uncommon, coronaviruses.

It could be COVID-19 was tweaked to become highly infectious and maybe the elite loosed the virus on the unsuspecting Chinese as an end-game checkmate; and are now using the media to hype it for all it’s worth.

Or maybe the Chi-com’s have used the virus as cover to neutralize “infected” protesters.

In any event, it appears governments have strived to create panic and financial collapse to promote a hoax that would accomplish the destruction.

Why? Because they feel it’s time.

 

There's a good amount of paranoia, but lots of excellent, thoughtful arguments, and some really interesting facts, that you will dismiss entirely in your quest to build a moat your delicate sensibilities.

Edited March 4, 2020 by Thetexashammer

[Huckleberry 32859]

lulz

Took exactly 10 seconds to prove that entire thing should be considered the total bullshit that it is.

I found that article about malaria versus coronavirus that the article claims was SCRUBBED FROM THE INTERNET OMG!!!1!!. I used my secret dark web access that I have code named "Google."

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180549.shtml

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[Brisketexan 105139]

32 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Thanks for answers, I'll continue to flail for your amusement.

Trey Gowdy on Biden's speaking:

"He looks like a chain smoker filling a gas tank"

 

Wait....I live in a world where Trey Gowdy makes fun of how someone else....looks?

[washparkhorn 9939]

16 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Judging from what we are seeing in black voter turnout and enthusiasm for Joe Biden, I think re-election just got a whole lot more difficult for Donald Trump.

Just so we are reading from the same page a link to the data. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/05/12/black-voter-turnout-fell-in-2016-even-as-a-record-number-of-americans-cast-ballots/

 

[Dbeasy 15050]

It wasn’t for a lack of trying. There were two dozen D candidates. But Kamala was a “cop”, Pete was a “racist”, Beto was a “furry” and they were all cast off as centrists or “Republicans” by the left. 
Warren tried to play both sides and ended up being rejected by leftists and moderates.
Biden was the only non-Bernie candidate where the attacks didn’t stick, due to being so established and well known. 

And Klobs, a very high quality choice, was derided by the left. The far left is screwing up the Democrats just like the Tea Party was screwing up the moderate Republicans, until all the Republicans went full stupid.