2020 Democratic Nominee

[Fozzz 152]

There is just gonna be mountains of this bullshit moving forward.  We need to circle the wagons.  Biden gives us the best chance to win because reasons.  

 

 

[Hank Kingsley 21778]

Fucking idiots. 

 

[henrygandorf 29225]

1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

The reasoning is extremely flawed. Acting like we can properly predict "who can beat Trump" based off polls/punditry is a huge mistake.

People like Joe Biden are part of the reason we ended up with Dotard in the Oval Office. 

 

of course it's flawed.  doesn't mean it's not happening.

biden's narrative right now is "i can beat trump.  also..."

and much of america is like, "i'm sold i don't need to hear anymore."

[GSU&UT 1799]

It's nice to see the more left leaning posters on this site almost unanimously hate Biden. Probably the one thing we can all agree on.

[Hank Kingsley 21778]

1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

of course it's flawed.  doesn't mean it's not happening.

biden's narrative right now is "i can beat trump.  also..."

and much of america is like, "i'm sold i don't need to hear anymore."

Much of America needs to get their head out of their ass. Keep on thinking this way and Trump cruises to a 2nd term. 

 

 

[bad_teammate 13517]

LET'S RUN IT BACK!

 

[David Dennison 19536]

1 minute ago, Fozzz said:

There is just gonna be mountains of this bullshit moving forward.  We need to circle the wagons.  Biden gives us the best chance to win because reasons.  

 

 

Joe Biden may very well win the nomination. Every Democratic voter should be prepared for that.

If that happens and they stay home on election day or vote for some third party candidate who has no chance, well, they kind of deserve four more years of Donald Trump.

Vote for the Democrat if you want to beat Trump and encourage everyone else who wants Trump to lose to do the same.

[henrygandorf 29225]

1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Much of America needs to get their head out of their ass.

i didn't need biden declaring to tell me this.

the only positive about biden being in the race is that it seems to be bothering trump and forcing even more rambling idiocy from his twitter.

i don't know anyone on this board or in real life who likes biden or thinks he's the answer.  i would like to get to know alyssa milano though.

[Red Five 41736]

I have seen Embrace of the Vampire many, many times, so this now hits close to home. 

Strangely though, I don't think I've ever seen the end of that movie, or even the last half. Weird. 

[Hank Kingsley 21778]

6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Joe Biden may very well win the nomination. Every Democratic voter should be prepared for that.

If that happens and they stay home on election day or vote for some third party candidate who has no chance, well, they kind of deserve four more years of Donald Trump.

Vote for the Democrat if you want to beat Trump and encourage everyone else who wants Trump to lose to do the same.

Anyone who has Joe Biden as their #1 Democratic candidate deserves 4 more  years of Trump. 

 

[6th Street 6689]

Biden is best thought of as a middle reliever brought in to pitch you out of a 2 on, 1 out jam in the bottom of the 7th. Not the most talented like a starter in Clayton Kershaw but has the tools to get it done. 

[David Dennison 19536]

1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Anyone who has Joe Biden as their #1 Democratic candidate deserves 4 more  years of Trump. 

Maybe.

But you should still vote for him if he wins the nomination.

[tucker 238]

Jeb Bush raised a huge amount but wasn’t able to get far in the primary. I am not so fatalist that Biden will take it. 

[henrygandorf 29225]

11 minutes ago, tucker said:

Jeb Bush raised a huge amount but wasn’t able to get far in the primary. I am not so fatalist that Biden will take it. 

maybe i'm biased, but other than size, i don't see a whole lot of similarities between the 2020 d-field and the 2016 r-field.

we have a lot of very good options ahead of biden.

[Aqua Buddha 14806]

I'm certainly not in love with Biden but to think he loses to Trump is a huge stretch.  He'd easily win simply due to how well he plays in the industrial Midwest.  His entire platform seems to be to vote for him for a return to decency and normality.  That's not a terrible strategy.

Bernie would be a fucking disaster.

[American Swindle 102]

43 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

'Member when errbody said this about Donald Trump?

 

Yep.

 

I'm just responding to Hugo how I think he would respond to his alter-ego, polar opposite, die hard conservative self.  

 

[bad_teammate 13517]

Ooh boy this poll looks bad for my man Bernie, lemme dig into these crosstabs like I like to do to get some more context for what this means about the different voting base preferences...

uh...

This is basically just a poll for 50+ y.o. Dems/Dem-lean-Indies.

They didn't get enough Democrats/Dem-lean-Independents under 45 years old to even have them register statistically. You can see it starting on Page 20 with all the "N/A" entries.

 

That massive gap between Bernie and Biden makes A LOT more sense now.

 

Edited April 30, 2019 by bad_teammate

[henrygandorf 29225]

2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Ooh boy this poll looks bad for my man Bernie, lemme dig into these crosstabs like I like to do to get some more context for what this means about the different voting base preferences...

uh...

This is basically just a poll for over 45 Dems/Dem-lean-Indies.

They didn't get enough Democrats/Dem-lean-Independents under 45 years old to even have them register statistically. You can see it starting on Page 20 with all the "N/A" entries.

 

That massive gap between Bernie and Biden makes A LOT more sense now.

 

biden polls within a week of him announcing are completely pointless and only exist to give cnn something to talk about.

he was around 27-30% and neck-and-neck with bernie when everyone already knew he was running.

[Hank Kingsley 21778]

5 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I'm certainly not in love with Biden but to think he loses to Trump is a huge stretch.  He'd easily win simply due to how well he plays in the industrial Midwest.  His entire platform seems to be to vote for him for a return to decency and normality.  That's not a terrible strategy.

Yes let's return to the "decency and normality" prior to Trump, so we can get someone a lot smarter and more dangerous from the GOP in 2024. 

 

[Js1 87179]

Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

Yes let's return to the "decency and normality" prior to Trump, so we can get someone a lot smarter and more dangerous from the GOP in 2024. 

 

Yup.  Just guarantees are more effective Trump. 

[henrygandorf 29225]

Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

Yes let's return to the "decency and normality" prior to Trump, so we can get someone a lot smarter and more dangerous from the GOP in 2024. 

 

especially considering everyone sees biden as a one-term guy.

if biden wins, 2024 could be a fucking shitshow on both sides of the aisle.

[David Dennison 19536]

32 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

especially considering everyone sees biden as a one-term guy.

if biden wins, 2024 could be a fucking shitshow on both sides of the aisle.

With Donald Trump as the Republican nominee.

[Hank Scorpio 17924]

49 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I'm certainly not in love with Biden but to think he loses to Trump is a huge stretch.  He'd easily win simply due to how well he plays in the industrial Midwest.  His entire platform seems to be to vote for him for a return to decency and normality.  That's not a terrible strategy.

Bernie would be a fucking disaster.

Exactly. Like Chuck said, the way we win this thing is to flip Republicans and play hard to the center. That's how you beat a mad man like Trump. 

[BradInATX 9208]

With Donald Trump as the Republican nominee.

God damn that would be funny. And shitty.

[GW Hayduke 1957]

16 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

With Donald Trump as the Republican nominee.

After Donal Trump, the GOP has Jr., Ivanka, and Eric lined up and waiting. It’s going to be dynasty, not dissimilar to duck dynasty

[Jive Turkey 12997]

1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I'm certainly not in love with Biden but to think he loses to Trump is a huge stretch.  He'd easily win simply due to how well he plays in the industrial Midwest.  His entire platform seems to be to vote for him for a return to decency and normality.  That's not a terrible strategy.

Bernie would be a fucking disaster.

Biden will also do well with black voters. Being Obama’s VP gives him credibility. More than Hillary had.  Margins are gonna be tight, and increased turnout by black voters, along with flipping working class whites in the Midwest, gives Biden a shot.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/28/us/politics/biden-pennsylvania-2020.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3871]

44 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

With Donald Trump as the Republican nominee.

oh man, an 82 year old Trump as president is just what this country needs.

 

Edited to add:

 

Edited April 30, 2019 by SuingToGetAMessageBoard?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

If we get fucking Biden, chalk up another epic win for the boomers.

[Js1 87179]

6 hours ago, Js1 said:

FUCK YES.

GET SOME EW.  

IS THE SURGE REAL?

In 3rd in CNN and 2nd Quinnipiac?

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2617

Biden 38

Warren 12

Bernie 11

Pete 10
 

Also

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23 percent say Biden has the best policy ideas, with Warren at 19 percent.

[American Swindle 102]

Maybe.
But you should still vote for him if he wins the nomination.

Or just vote Libertarian because no matter who you vote for, Trump or the winning Democrat, you still get John McCain [shill for MIC]

[Js1 87179]

If anyone votes third party after 2016, they should consider trying on plastic grocery bags and breathing heavily.  

Edited April 30, 2019 by Js1

[Hank Scorpio 17924]

4 minutes ago, American Swindle said:

 

Or just vote Libertarian because no matter who you vote for, Trump or the winning Democrat, you still get John McCain [shill for MIC]

 

Holy shit. He's right. This guy has like, completely figured it out. He's so enlightened that he's transcended politics. That must be what being a libertarian means. 

 

[American Swindle 102]

Holy shit. He's right. This guy has like, completely figured it out. He's so enlightened that he's transcended politics. That must be what being a libertarian means. 
 

Hey!........or don’t vote Libertarian because it won’t count against the person you DON’T want to win.

I suppose I put a lot of weight into the most anti-war prospect, no matter how many Aleppo moments they have.

Ok, this shit is for the buried Libertarian Party thread, stay on topic

[GW Hayduke 1957]

Voting third party in a two-party system only makes sense if you are a republican and decide to vote libertarian. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Biden played his strongest card first which, by the way, is everyone’s strongest card.  Plenty of candidates are still holding this card or have chosen not to play it. 

Strongest card:

going HAM at Donald Trump

[Bruh Man 3160]

Quinnipac are the most accurate pollsters according to 538. They have Warren in 2nd. Buttigieg is having a hard time with non-white voters.

 

 

[Js1 87179]

Also Warren was 3rd in CNN and Morning Consult.

Legit Warren-mentum. 

[Bama Chick 28596]

And a month ago Betomania was garnering “WHAT ABOUT ALL THE WOMEN” takes and Warren was dead in the water.

The leaderboard and the mythical momentum is going to swing around more than a stripper on a pole.

I swear, if I were writing an election reform bill, the first order of business would be to shorten the primary season to 3 months, March thru May. No candidate is allowed to declare or form exploratory committees more than 3 months from the first primary; January of an election year. And all state primaries would be on a rotating schedule. No more letting Iowa, NH, and SC dominate the early going.

The general election campaign would run from June to November like it currently does.

Dealing with this shit for two fucking years is utterly exhausting and it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s one of the reasons so many citizens tune out politics and elections all together.

[bad_teammate 13517]

damn stacey

 

[tucker 238]

Making an early prediction that Warren is either the D candidate or VP.

[JimmyJames 12271]

7 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Anyone who has Joe Biden as their #1 Democratic candidate deserves 4 more  years of Trump. 

Why is that? You think Biden will be as bad as trump? Your post doesn’t make much sense. 

The reality is right now Biden has the best chance of beating president shitstain. Could that change? Of course. You should repeat this post whenever democrat candidate ____ has better polling number versus trump. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

11 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Biden is gonna run away with this thing.  

This is correct. And I realize this won’t be a popular opinion on this board.

To start, if I were King I would make Warren president, with Bernie a close second if she decided she didn’t want it. And while they are both in the top five, they are likely to lose to Biden.

Personally I don’t like Biden’s politics all that much. He’s a true corporate dem in the Clinton/Third way sense, and is way too favorable in the past to corporate interests in the past for my current tastes.

But I’m not the KIng of America and the current president of America is an evil narcissistic asshole known as Donald J. Trump. Plus to make it even better the repubican party is a treasonous vessel of sea going shit. Defeating him (and the vessel) overrides my brains computer program with respect to all other issues. 

While I THINK most dems would defeat trump, unless the economy starts to tank, it aint a sure thing and I’m NOT SURE. That means nominating the best chance possible  to beat his fat orange ass, and that means UNFORTUNATELY nominating sleepy creepy joe. 

Sorry. 

[Hank Kingsley 21778]

8 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Why is that? You think Biden will be as bad as trump? Your post doesn’t make much sense. 

 

I think it makes perfect sense. 

Joe Biden represents the past. The Democratic voters that want to turn back the clock to pre-Trump days seem to forget the injustices and bullshit going on with this country prior to Nov. 2016. We need a way FORWARD with someone who recognizes the pre-Trump failures in government.  There's over a dozen better choices right now. 

IMO supporting Biden at this moment is being extremely short sighted. He represents the Democratic version of MAGA and his presidency would prolong this clusterfuck of a situation. No thanks. 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Biden campaign is fear based and he will probably win because we are a nation of whipped dogs. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

Sorry but somehow equating Biden to trump is nuts. 

[mchookem 16765]

i will not vote for Joe in the primary.

but if he wins, i will vote for him without a moment's hesitation or regret. 

 

[Hank Kingsley 21778]

2 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Sorry but somehow equating Biden to trump is nuts. 

Comparing, not equating. 

Trump promised the past. Joe represents it.  Better intentions doesn't necessarily mean better days ahead. 

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

i will not vote for Joe in the primary.
but if he wins, i will vote for him without a moment's hesitation or regret. 
 

Yes, this.

I’m #BetoNow for the primaries but come the general I’m #BlueNoMatterWho.

And fuck all the purity tests.

Trump MUST be defeated.

And even though Biden is at the bottom of my list, he’s 10,000 times better than what we have now.

Fall in love with your guy or gal all you want in the primaries but come the general election, Democrats better fall the fuck in line.

[Hank Kingsley 21778]

So excited to fall in line and be a team player for a POS candidate like Biden. It's really inspiring. Especially since we're basing his impending victory off of polls/punditry that predicted President Clinton in 2016. 

If the clear, main objective is to defeat Donald Trump, we will lose. 

 

 

[Js1 87179]

4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

So excited to fall in line and be a team player for a POS candidate like Biden. It's really inspiring. Especially since we're basing his impending victory off of polls/punditry that predicted President Clinton in 2016. 

If the clear, main objective is to defeat Donald Trump, we will lose. 

 

 

We may temporarily win but they’ll run a more competent Trump against the establishment status quo Biden in 24 and we’ll be in real trouble