2020 Democratic Nominee

[Hank Kingsley 21754]

12 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Ever since Biden got in the polling has been a lot less interesting. He feels so inevitable that talking about Sanders/Warren/Buttigieg in the polls seems pointless.

Even with the trend/reasonable expectation that Joe finishes 2nd, 3rd, or 4th in Iowa? 

Biden has had a TERRIBLE week. And it’s not gonna get better for him when we get to the debates.

[Pancho 46276]

29 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Ignore the names, which stock would you go long on? 

your mom. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26843]

Imagine saying this 3 days after the 50th anniversary of D Day

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Imagine saying this 3 days after the 50th anniversary of D Day
 

I love candidates who promise to do nothing and lecture us on how workable solutions to enormous problems are "off the table" even when they have no power to make that claim. 

[Js1 87174]

 

 

[Pancho 46276]

11 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

 

Christ, who wrote that?

[henrygandorf 29225]

a right-handed person's left foot.

[Js1 87174]

 

[bad_teammate 13496]

Music choice rank
#1 - Harris
#2 - Warren
#3 - Yang
Fuck off: Bennet, Bullock, Ryan

Don't @ me
not reading mentions

[bad_teammate 13496]

"Big Gulps, huh? Well all right!"

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[Ghost of LL 15699]

On 6/9/2019 at 12:24 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

Any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me too as long as we're hitting these phenomena at the height of their popularity? God you're so funny!

When do you think was the high point for Titanic jokes?  Around 1913, when it was long enough after the event that you could feel safe making the joke?  Or 1997, after the movie came out?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Pete looks like he’s levitating in this photo.

 

Also...

 

[bad_teammate 13496]

Someone fucked up Beto's left leg. Does that happen when you run all the time?

I wouldn't know, because I'm too lazy to run.

[Bozo_Casanova 26843]

When do you think was the high point for Titanic jokes?  Around 1913, when it was long enough after the event that you could feel safe making the joke?  Or 1997, after the movie came out?

Related - today I learned that there was a movie made about the sinking of the Titanic starring an actress, Dorothy Gibson, who had survived the disaster that premiered only 29 days after the sinking of the ship. In scenes depicting her survival she even wore the actual gown she was wearing during the real events.

[Ghost of LL 15699]

12 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Related - today I learned that there was a movie made about the sinking of the Titanic starring an actress, Dorothy Gibson, who had survived the disaster that premiered only 29 days after the sinking of the ship. In scenes depicting her survival she even wore the actual gown she was wearing during the real events.

There was rather less sensitivity to tragedy back then, wasn't there?  There was no such thing as "too soon?".  

Maybe because there was so much more tragedy back then.  But honestly--is it ever too soon now?  I remember as a kid making jokes about the Challenger disaster within a week.

[Zavala 1384]

 

[Hank Kingsley 21754]

 

[Hank Scorpio 17924]

A Gabbard/Williamson ticket would be unstoppable in terms of crystal energy and aura. I think Gabbard may be crazier than Williamson. 

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/tulsi-gabbard-2020-presidential-campaign.html

[GSU&UT 1799]

Posting this whenever someone says free college is a dumb idea and not tenable (and yes you knuckle-draggers, I realize this is one university and maybe a few hundred people at most taking advantage of it).

 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

11 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

There was rather less sensitivity to tragedy back then, wasn't there?  There was no such thing as "too soon?".  

Maybe because there was so much more tragedy back then.  But honestly--is it ever too soon now?  I remember as a kid making jokes about the Challenger disaster within a week.

I remember those. And they started nearly the day after.

Where did Christa McAuliffe spend her last vacation?

What does NASA stand for?

I don't recall any 911 jokes though so maybe things changed between the 80s and the 00s.  Or maybe I was just too old to hear them.

[SKJ 1317]

Fucking Andrew Yang's appearance on the Rubin Report was outstanding.

If the person who is the candidate doesn't see the danger of automation and the upcoming shift in our economy, we're all fucked anyways. So, unless we get behind him enough to get his ideas at least looked at, well, this country deserves what it will get.

We're looking to dinosaurs to solve problems they can't even fathom. So we're probably fucked anyway.

[bad_teammate 13496]

He's absolutely correct.

We must embrace the power and importance of collective action. Collective action is the only way we improve this nation and this world. We can only do it together.

[GSU&UT 1799]

LOL at saying they need to re-brand that word, as if any other word won't be immediately linked back to Socialism!!!

[Js1 87174]

New Socialism! 

[bad_teammate 13496]

Watch the candidate with actual beliefs speak about actually having beliefs.

Zero fear. Zero fucks given.

[bad_teammate 13496]

His primary opponents laughing and scorning him will only make his message more attractive to swing voters, independents, and non-voters. It only reveals how empty their politics are and how little difference there is between them and the Republicans.

 

 

[Js1 87174]

First Nevada poll is GREAT news for Warren, awful news for Harris.

Biden 36
Warren 19
Bernie 13
Pete 7
Harris 6

[Pancho 46276]

53 minutes ago, Js1 said:

First Nevada poll is GREAT news for Warren, awful news for Harris.

Biden 36
Warren 19
Bernie 13
Pete 7
Harris 6

And it’s not that Harris is losing steam but she’s not gaining. Just stuck.  And I’m seeing a lot of Blacks who aren’t drawn to her (especially black women) and instead are drawn to Warren if not Biden.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

My dad, who has been switching his support like the wind, was all aboard the Harris train until Warren did her most recent MSNBC Town Hall.  

So my white boomer dad who was originally a Bernie Bro in 2016 that couldn’t vote for Hillary or Trump has gone from Harris to Buttigieg to Warren to Harris and now back to Warren. 

He’s not supporting Biden or Bernie this go around because he thinks they’re too old. 

[Hank Scorpio 17924]

4 hours ago, GSU&UT said:

LOL at saying they need to re-brand that word, as if any other word won't be immediately linked back to Socialism!!!

The most important thing is branding. The principals and ideas espoused by socialists are meaningless. It's all about that brand baby. 

[Hank Scorpio 17924]

28 minutes ago, Pancho said:

And it’s not that Harris is losing steam but she’s not gaining. Just stuck.  And I’m seeing a lot of Blacks who aren’t drawn to her (especially black women) and instead are drawn to Warren if not Biden.

All of the black people I know love Bernie Sanders and tell me he is the only Democrat they would ever vote for. 

[bad_teammate 13496]

John Hickenlooper having a normal one.

[edit]

 

haha fuck the best burn

 

Edited June 12, 2019 by bad_teammate

[Js1 87174]

Hickenlooper might as well just jump on a ticket with Howard Schultz. #CENTRISMTOTHERESCUE

Edited June 12, 2019 by Js1

[GSU&UT 1799]

Saw Virgil spamming Hickenlooper's replies and couldn't believe he (some intern) was actually replying to Bernie's account. That's amazing and desperate.

[bad_teammate 13496]

43 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Hickenlooper might as well just jump on a ticket with Howard Schultz. #CENTRISMTOTHERESCUE

Since Schultz isn't going to run, the lane is more open

[Pancho 46276]

 

[Js1 87174]

Unless Biden loses frontrunner status.  Then he'll jump back in, I'm sure.  Gotta protect the centrism. 

[Biff Tannen 46151]

That's a shame.

[elfenix 34746]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Remember when Mark Zuckerberg was thinking of running for President?  Those were the days. 

[Hank Kingsley 21754]

 

[henrygandorf 29225]

if kamala doesn't win ca she's in real trouble.

even a top 2 will be a letdown.

pete has some nice momentum out here, and is getting support from former hardcore kamala people.

gonna be an interesting race.

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

9 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

if kamala doesn't win ca she's in real trouble.

even a top 2 will be a letdown.

pete has some nice momentum out here, and is getting support from former hardcore kamala people.

gonna be an interesting race.

Agreed about Kamala but the real story is Liz continues to gain on Bernie.  Bernie is losing a lot of his mojo to Liz, who is more passionate and seems more detailed and specific.  It's early but after slipping at the start, Liz has started to find her stride.  Kamala will need a moment, either in the debates or maybe in some sort of hearing or impeachment hearing to gain the momentum needed IMO.  Otherwise, I think she's a strong VP or AG choice.

 

[henrygandorf 29225]

1 minute ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Agreed about Kamala but the real story is Liz continues to gain on Bernie.  Bernie is losing a lot of his mojo to Liz, who is more passionate and seems more detailed and specific.  It's early but after slipping at the start, Liz has started to find her stride.  Kamala will need a moment, either in the debates or maybe in some sort of hearing or impeachment hearing to gain the momentum needed IMO.  Otherwise, I think she's a strong VP or AG choice.

yep, i agree that warren's move here is impressive.

you could argue that the biggest story since biden declared would be "once biden starts leaking points, where would those points go?"  right now, warren seems to be the prime beneficiary, possibly at the expense of bernie - since many see them as occupying similar ground.

[bad_teammate 13496]

Liz is primarily benefiting from an extended period of fawning media coverage. I'm not dismissing her, of course, but that's been the cycle so far. Biden jumped in, the media was covering him to the tune of 4x all the other candidates combined, and his numbers skyrocketed. Pete got his two weeks in the media sun and his poll numbers shot up impressively. We're still in a stage where the vast majority of voters aren't paying attention and those of us paying attention kind of gravitate to the shiniest thing.

Hopefully the machine she's been spending HUGE on to build will carry the momentum, but as the media spotlight moves around, so will the poll numbers.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

It hasn't all been positive.  She was hit with "you're just like Rachel Dolezal!" in an interview. 

[bad_teammate 13496]

3 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

It hasn't all been positive.  She was hit with "you're just like Rachel Dolezal!" in an interview. 

Sure, but The Breakfast Club isn't mainstream media. That's a very specific audience and it's an audience Warren doesn't do well with in the first place.

I think what we're seeing is that many people who were waiting for Biden are becoming horrified of him being what he's always been (I don't know why they are surprised) and they need an alternative. All powerful establishment institutions and their paid mouthpieces hate Bernie, of course, so they need alternatives. Kamala was going to be the one, but she got zero traction. Beto lasted 10 seconds. Pete was the flavor for a minute, but he hasn't really taken over, so more boosting must be done.

I don't think it's an organized conspiracy against Bernie, it's just the way powerful forces move to advance their interest against opponents.

CNN, MSNBC, Politico, Vox, TheHill, etc...

In an overall strategic sense, I am EXTREMELY happy with Bernie having pulled the party so far left that Warren is considered an acceptable compromise by the establishment. If the shitlibs want to dunk on us Bernie Brocialists by nominating and fighting for Warren instead of Biden, then this is me:

Of course, I'll hoot and holler at Liz to move left if/when she beats Donald. (Especially on Medicare 4 All, the #1 beef I have with her is her absolute vagueness on universal healthcare.)

And if she doesn't beat Donald I might have a fucking aneurysm and become a Maoist third-worlder.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

50 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Liz is primarily benefiting from an extended period of fawning media coverage.

She is primarily benefiting from doing and saying things the media can’t ignore.  It’s hard not to fawn over her when she’s saying all this smart shit no one else is saying and CONNECTING with audiences.  The media was writing her obituary three months ago.  I have a hard time believing corporate media wants to elevate Elizabeth Warren to the presidency.  

[bad_teammate 13496]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I have a hard time believing corporate media wants to elevate Elizabeth Warren to the presidency.  

As Biden slowly collapses like a flan in a cupboard (hat-tip Eddie Izzard), the corporate world would MUUUUUCH rather have Liz than Bernie. They'd rather have Trump than Bernie.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

I don't think it's an organized conspiracy against Bernie, it's just the way powerful forces move to advance their interest against opponents.

Oh, I think there is an organized conspiracy against Bernie and there are plenty of reasons for that.  I would go on but I don’t want to deal with you lashing out at me for critiquing Bernard.