2020 Democratic Nominee

[bad_teammate 13125]

37 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

No I wouldn't, because it is very clear that the supporters were not attacking a rival candidate in any way.

Scroll up to the two posts where I posted these clips and re-read them. Note the tone of my posts. Now look at the tone of the responses from JS1, yourself, and Hugo.

You guys have demons in your brains that scream at you when Bernie comes up. I never said it was an attack. I never even said it was horribly offensive.

Me: "lol look at these idiots and their Potemkin village bullshit"
You guys: "YOU MOTHERFUCKING BERNIE BROS I SWEAR TO GOD"

These demonstrations of supporters are lame and laughable. They aren't "attacks", they're jokes and worthy of derision. It's especially funny when they act like an actual protest movements with walkouts and disruptive chanting, with the chant being something as meaningless as, "It's time for a woman in the White House." It reveals the intellectual and moral vapidity of candidates like Harris.

It's like the Hall of Fame thing in Cedar Rapids in June when the candidates all laid out their chanting cheering sections:

and Bernie showed up in solidarity with striking McDonald's workers:

Harris's cadre of robots acting like protesters is hilariously stupid.

[GSU&UT 1798]

We probably could use a "Fuck the DNC" thread at this point.

 

[bad_teammate 13125]

Absolute garbage.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5781]

6 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

We probably could use a "Fuck the DNC" thread at this point.

 

Unbelievable. Fuck the DNC

[Mojo Hand 4580]

I'm pretty ignorant on what is going on with the debate issue, but isn't there a climate forum on CNN coming up with all of the major Dem candidates?  Is that not sufficient?  Honest question. 

Edited August 24, 2019 by Mojo Hand

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

 

[GSU&UT 1798]

1 hour ago, Mojo Hand said:

I'm pretty ignorant on what is going on with the debate issue, but isn't there a climate forum on CNN coming up with all of the major Dem candidates?  Is that not sufficient?  Honest question. 

Those will be individual town hall kinds of talks with I assume Q&A. This resolution would have forced them to all answer the same questions where we could more honestly compare how they stack against each other.

[Hank Kingsley 20635]

3 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Scroll up to the two posts where I posted these clips and re-read them. Note the tone of my posts. Now look at the tone of the responses from JS1, yourself, and Hugo.

You guys have demons in your brains that scream at you when Bernie comes up. I never said it was an attack. I never even said it was horribly offensive.

Me: "lol look at these idiots and their Potemkin village bullshit"
You guys: "YOU MOTHERFUCKING BERNIE BROS I SWEAR TO GOD"

These demonstrations of supporters are lame and laughable. They aren't "attacks", they're jokes and worthy of derision. It's especially funny when they act like an actual protest movements with walkouts and disruptive chanting, with the chant being something as meaningless as, "It's time for a woman in the White House." It reveals the intellectual and moral vapidity of candidates like Harris.

It's like the Hall of Fame thing in Cedar Rapids in June when the candidates all laid out their chanting cheering sections:

and Bernie showed up in solidarity with striking McDonald's workers:

Harris's cadre of robots acting like protesters is hilariously stupid.

You were the one that posted these stupid videos. You literally described one as "Kamala folks walking out on Bernie at DNC convention while chanting" when that is not true. They started walking out when Kamala was done speaking. Sorry you got duped by a disingenuous Bernie supporter that tried to go viral with essentially a non-story. 

Bernie >>>>>>> Kamala IMO.  I think she sucks and have been pretty vocal about it here. The fact that Bernie supporters are giving this stupid shit any attention is more of an eye opener than what her supporters did. 

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

[Bozo_Casanova 26232]

You were the one that posted these stupid videos. You literally described one as "Kamala folks walking out on Bernie at DNC convention while chanting" when that is not true. They started walking out when Kamala was done speaking. Sorry you got duped by a disingenuous Bernie supporter that tried to go viral with essentially a non-story. 
Bernie >>>>>>> Kamala IMO.  I think she sucks and have been pretty vocal about it here. The fact that Bernie supporters are giving this stupid shit any attention is more of an eye opener than what her supporters did. 
 

Yeah, by all means we should rally behind the guy who adopted Trump’s position on Trade first.

[bad_teammate 13125]

14 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

You were the one that posted these stupid videos. You literally described one as "Kamala folks walking out on Bernie at DNC convention while chanting" when that is not true.

They literally were walking out while Bernie was being announced and chanting. You can hear and see both in the video.

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They started walking out when Kamala was done speaking.

Is walking out and chanting loudly while another candidate is being introduced a normal thing once your candidate is done speaking? Is that how it works in your mind?

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The fact that Bernie supporters are giving this stupid shit any attention is more of an eye opener than what her supporters did. 

Why is you saying it's stupid shit different from me saying it's stupid shit? Don't rely on your brain worms to interpret what you imagine I believe filtered through your Bernie-related PTSD, go look at my actual words.

[Hank Kingsley 20635]

It's clear you don't want to discuss this honestly.  We can move on. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

So Gillibrand turned out to be a real disappointment.  Imagine being a US Senator from New York and getting squeezed out of the third debate by Andrew Yang.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

20 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

So Gillibrand turned out to be a real disappointment.  Imagine being a US Senator from New York and getting squeezed out of the third debate by Andrew Yang.

I talked to someone who knows her about two years ago.   I told him I thought she had a good chance of winning if she ran.  He told me unequivocally that she has no chance.   Said she has absolutely no charisma.   I guess he was right. 

I like her more than any other establishment candidate, but she has really underperformed her position and her fundraising. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26232]

So Gillibrand turned out to be a real disappointment.  Imagine being a US Senator from New York and getting squeezed out of the third debate by Andrew Yang.

She always seemed like she should play the mom in a Sunny Delight commercial: capable and cheerful, even wise and strong at times, but really just a character in somebody else’s story.

[Celery Man 20874]

She sounds like she’s running for student council. Beto has had moments like that. She’s never not had moments like that

[bad_teammate 13125]

No charisma? What are you talking about?!?!?

 

[Js1 85056]

20 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

She sounds like she’s running for student council. Beto has had moments like that. She’s never not had moments like that

Tracy Flick! 

[BradInATX 9208]

Whining and Crying Power Rankings, by Candidate Fan Base:

1) Trump

2) Bernie

3) Hillary

 

[Js1 85056]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

David Duke is on twitter today white knighting for Tulsi. 

If you needed anymore evidence she’s a joke I don’t know what to tell you. 

[bad_teammate 13125]

Both Warren and Sanders can deliver this kind of response all across the country.

With either of those candidates, we can activate MILLIONS of voters in the working classes in all 50 states and not just beat Trump, but take the Senate.

[tantric superman 4667]

One of the interesting thing about this election and the last couple of decades is the decay and disappearance of anyone making facially legitimate conservative fiscal and libertarian arguments. I am one of those moderates who would be much more excited about both Bernie and Elizabeth if I knew there was someone on the other side of the aisle who would provide some legitimate intellectual arguments against their policies.  And by legitimate, I mean anything more rigorous than "libtard tears"

The all or nothing aspect of our politics is really disappointing -- and I think it's because I always had this idea that there were a few folks on the Right who actually ascribed to some kind of conservative ideals.

May the Republican Party be sowed with salt and suffer 1000 years of ignominy for making the deal with the devil.

[bad_teammate 13125]

They didn't make a deal with the devil. Trump is not some kind of wild aberration in any sense other than his lack of decorum and the tariffs and, very importantly, war (where he is likely more doveish than most Republicans and many Democrats).

He nominated the same SC judges a Decorum Republican would have. He signed the same tax cuts a Decorum Republican would have. He demonizes minorities just like Republicans have done for 50 years.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5781]

1 hour ago, tantric superman said:

One of the interesting thing about this election and the last couple of decades is the decay and disappearance of anyone making facially legitimate conservative fiscal and libertarian arguments. I am one of those moderates who would be much more excited about both Bernie and Elizabeth if I knew there was someone on the other side of the aisle who would provide some legitimate intellectual arguments against their policies.  And by legitimate, I mean anything more rigorous than "libtard tears"

The all or nothing aspect of our politics is really disappointing -- and I think it's because I always had this idea that there were a few folks on the Right who actually ascribed to some kind of conservative ideals.

May the Republican Party be sowed with salt and suffer 1000 years of ignominy for making the deal with the devil.

 

The thing is, we've seen conservative ideals. Trickle down economics and the smashing of organized labor have destroyed the middle class and consolidated all the wealth at the top. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, tantric superman said:

One of the interesting thing about this election and the last couple of decades is the decay and disappearance of anyone making facially legitimate conservative fiscal and libertarian arguments. I am one of those moderates who would be much more excited about both Bernie and Elizabeth if I knew there was someone on the other side of the aisle who would provide some legitimate intellectual arguments against their policies.  And by legitimate, I mean anything more rigorous than "libtard tears"

The all or nothing aspect of our politics is really disappointing -- and I think it's because I always had this idea that there were a few folks on the Right who actually ascribed to some kind of conservative ideals.

May the Republican Party be sowed with salt and suffer 1000 years of ignominy for making the deal with the devil.

The republicans never had any conservative ideals. It was all a lie. 

These men are nihilists Donny. 

Its ok, I fell for it too.

[BradInATX 9208]

1 hour ago, tantric superman said:

One of the interesting thing about this election and the last couple of decades is the decay and disappearance of anyone making facially legitimate conservative fiscal and libertarian arguments.

I mean a lot of them still make the arguments but then they get into office and spend money like drunken Stepford wives on their husbands' payday.

Edited August 25, 2019 by BradInATX

[RDCanecutter 26239]

7 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

David Duke is on twitter today white knighting for Tulsi. 

If you needed anymore evidence she’s a joke I don’t know what to tell you. 

Well what kind of a knight is David Duke supposed to be, young feller?

[Bama Chick 28596]

You love to see it.

[Brisketexan 104465]

15 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

The republicans never had any conservative ideals. It was all a lie. 

These men are nihilists Donny. 

Its ok, I fell for it too.

This.  AND, when it comes to many of those purported "conservative ideals," many of us who have been paying attention have seen them tried, and fail.  Repeatedly.  Like the Laffer curve.  It's hot garbage.  So, not only do we not support the party purporting to advance those ideals, we don't support the ideals because they're a proven failure.  And we're not so stupid as to keep trying shit that fails.

7 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

You love to see it.
 

And this is genius.  

Minority voter turnout is the name of the game.  Black and hispanic voters can't stay home.

[Hank Kingsley 20635]

10 people currently in the next debate. Steyer needs 1 poll, Gabbard needs 2.

I believe the deadline is this Wednesday. 

 

[retread 2951]

37 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  AND, when it comes to many of those purported "conservative ideals," many of us who have been paying attention have seen them tried, and fail.  Repeatedly.  Like the Laffer curve.  It's hot garbage.  So, not only do we not support the party purporting to advance those ideals, we don't support the ideals because they're a proven failure.  And we're not so stupid as to keep trying shit that fails.

I would love to hear the Ds go hard in the paint on this fact in the debates and in '20.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

 

[Bruh Man 3160]

Wow, Monmouth have an A+ rating from 538 too.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

Looks like the Biden drop was split between Warren & Sanders. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

This isn’t a great poll though. Sample size is 300. 

[Hank Kingsley 20635]

16 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

This isn’t a great poll though. Sample size is 300. 

Any poll that makes Biden look weak is a good thing. But it's crazy that a national poll with 298 voters will make a lot of noise on cable news/social media today. 

 

[GSU&UT 1798]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

4 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

 

Not sure how to read into that other than Biden is losing some of his black voter support and it’s going to both Sanders and Warren.

[Hank Kingsley 20635]

Fuck the DNC. 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

I agree with this take.

[bad_teammate 13125]

Any poll that is bad for Biden is true.

As Joe himself says, "We are going to choose truth over facts."

[GSU&UT 1798]

Eat shit Biden

 

[RayDog 682]

58 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

I am waiting for Warren plus Sanders to top 50% and then watch the corporate Democrats and media heads explode.

[bad_teammate 13125]

Just now, RayDog said:

I am waiting for Warren plus Sanders to top 50% and then watch the corporate Democrats and media heads explode.

They are already in the bargaining stages. They're trying to worm their way into Warren's camp.

Grandma and Grandpa will crush them.

[cactusflinthead 27593]

35 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Not sure how to read into that other than Biden is losing some of his black voter support and it’s going to both Sanders and Warren.

No time to check the crosstabs. Ages and education levels of black voters moving from Biden is the question. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

Makes you wonder what these numbers would look like if Pelosi went hard as a motherfucker on impeaching Trump six months ago.  Gotta think a lot of traditional moderate Dems are fed up with the Pelosi wing’s shit. 

[cactusflinthead 27593]

18% black people in this has me questioning the results 

Sample size is 298? 

Yeah color me skeptical 

Edited August 26, 2019 by cactusflinthead

[bad_teammate 13125]

The media class reaction to the Monmouth poll has been hilarious. They POUNCE on anything that shows Bernie losing. Put Bernie at the top? They get out the slide rules, t-squares, and magnifying glasses.

[Biff Tannen 45478]

Yes, Bernie is so oppressed.