2020 Democratic Nominee

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

[Hank Kingsley 21060]

9 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Very nice of them to put Pete next to the man he has admired since high school

EDIT: They stood next to each other at last debate. 

 

Edited August 29, 2019 by Hank Kingsley

[bad_teammate 13225]

Bernie going to go in on the Spanish gimmick for Univision.

"Yo soy el juez que traerá justicia a los cerdos ricos."

[Biff Tannen 45750]

Why is Yang above Beto?  or Castro for that matter?

[Hank Kingsley 21060]

I believe Yang is polling better. 

 

[Mojo Hand 4580]

22 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Podium order looks fucking brutal for Biden:

He's just happy not to be next to Kamala. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

On 8/27/2019 at 11:57 AM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I hate the RCP averages because they back weight candidates that are running shitty campaigns on the decline but were doing awesome in the beginning solely due to name recognition and unfamiliarity of the alternatives.  They did nothing extraordinary to earn the numbers in their early polling except be a known quantity and it deceptively boosts their RCP average throughout the process.  

There are now a bunch of Bernie bros on twitter complaining about Bernie’s debate stage position because his RCP average is slightly higher than Warren’s.  

My quote above is precisely why the RCP average should not be considered in the debate stage positioning.

(Not saying Bernie is running a bad campaign)

Edited August 29, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[bad_teammate 13225]

I'm fine with Bernie not being in the Top 2 podium set. The terms of the debate are going to revolve around him anyway. They focused on him on nights he wasn't even onstage at all.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Joe Biden is going to be jello by hour three of the debate. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

lolz

[bad_teammate 13225]

I'd rather see Tulsi than...

- Harris
- Buttigieg
- Klobuchar
- Booker
- Biden

Not because I like her more than them, but because those people aren't going to say jack shit that's even the tiniest bit interesting or new.

Edited August 30, 2019 by bad_teammate

[RayDog 682]

The heard needs to be culled of fringe candidates even if they say interesting or entertaining things.

I like the approach the DNC has taken to get this done well in advance of the primaries.

[Hank Kingsley 21060]

Be prepared for more than 10 candidates at the 4th debate. They did not raise the requirements. 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Oh lawd 

Hillary looks marvelous 

[Js1 85612]

21 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Be prepared for more than 10 candidates at the 4th debate. They did not raise the requirements. 

 

Really? I figured it would (and should be) 200k individual donors and 3% in the polls. 

[henrygandorf 29197]

43 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

I'd rather see Tulsi than...

- Harris
- Buttigieg
- Klobuchar
- Booker
- Biden

Not because I like her more than them, but because those people aren't going to say jack shit that's even the tiniest bit interesting or new.

has bernie been working on new material?  his old stuff is hilarious.

[henrygandorf 29197]

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Really? I figured it would (and should be) 200k individual donors and 3% in the polls. 

debate 3 and 4 have the same threshold i believe.  obviously the 4th gives them more time because the deadline is later.

[Js1 85612]

13 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

debate 3 and 4 have the same threshold i believe.  obviously the 4th gives them more time because the deadline is later.

Fair. The people who missed it will suffer with donors and polls. But seems dumb. Typical DNC

[Message Board User 12396]

 

[Zombie 284]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

I'd rather see Tulsi than...

- Harris
- Buttigieg
- Klobuchar
- Booker
- Biden

Not because I like her more than them, but because those people aren't going to say jack shit that's even the tiniest bit interesting or new.

I would add Tulsi and Bernie to your list and say I'd rather see Buttigeig that the rest of that group because he's obviously the smartest person in the field and the future of the party. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

5 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Bernie going to go in on the Spanish gimmick for Univision.

"Yo soy el juez que traerá justicia a los cerdos ricos."

 

Edited August 30, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Js1 85612]

13 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

debate 3 and 4 have the same threshold i believe.  obviously the 4th gives them more time because the deadline is later.

Fair. The people who missed it will suffer with donors and polls. But seems dumb. Typical DNC

[gmr548 16617]

I just looked at today's dailykos poll. It was Warren 40%, Bernie 18%, Biden 12%, Yang 9%, Pete 8%, Harris 7%.
That is where high and medium information voters are at the moment.

High and medium info voters are a minority in the electorate by a significant margin.

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[Js1 85612]

13 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

High and medium info voters are a minority in the electorate by a significant margin.

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Yeah that’s why Biden is leading by a lot

Edited August 30, 2019 by Js1

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

This thread on Bernie Bros was pretty good:

 

[bad_teammate 13225]

Why is Buttigieg considered smarter than Warren or Booker? Or ANY of the candidates, really? What has he actually done, said, or accomplished that demonstrates this supposed superior intellect?

Is it because he throws out signifiers that white elites love?

[Js1 85612]

Yes? 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Hopefully everyone gangs up on Biden

[bad_teammate 13225]

Pete is smarter than Cory because stupid Cory went on to serve in a dangerous city and smart Grandson Nice Boy Pete learned pointless languages and worked for McKinsey.

[Js1 85612]

4 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Hopefully everyone gangs up on Biden

I think Liz will train her fire.  She finally is on the same stage as Biden.  Make it count. 

On the other side, Ole Joe has been geared up for this for a while.  He's going to bust out all the old hits. 

[Fozzz 152]

Mayor Pete will never be as accomplished as Joe Biden.  Hell, Mayor Pete probably won't win the next mayoral election in SB.  

[Pam Cummings 9685]

Fuck joe biden. Just fuck off you dumb old cunt.

[bad_teammate 13225]

12 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

has bernie been working on new material?  his old stuff is hilarious.

He has by far the most ambitious plans for dealing with the two biggest issues: Healthcare and climate change

And the entire debate is going to revolve around him anyway. Might as well roll grandpa up there to waggle his fingers and shout.

[6th Street 6508]

Biden should be fine as long as he sticks to the script and plays it safe right down the fairway. Maybe a couple of "malarkeys", a "God Bless America", and an Obama reference here and there too. 

Generally speaking, people are very fond of the Obama years and to the extent Biden can tie himself to that it should be a net positive. 

[Fozzz 152]

12 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Fuck joe biden. Just fuck off you dumb old cunt.

You better promise to this board that you will vote for Diamond Joe if he wins the nomination.  If not then I hope you never show your face around these parts ever again if Trump wins in 2020 as it will be entirely your fault.

[bad_teammate 13225]

"Raprock Robambra made this nation beautiful and great and I will great the beautiful every day for my son Beau and Hunter, who is my son."

*libs cheer wildly*

[Fozzz 152]

"my sons...uhh...yeah my sons"

[Js1 85612]

14 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

"Raprock Robambra made this nation beautiful and great and I will great the beautiful every day for my son Beau and Hunter, who is my son."

*libs cheer wildly*

"I can beat up Trump, right now.  Did you see Ole Bernie with the punching bag? Hilarious.  You think this guy could go after Trump?  My good friend Barack Obama used to have me work security outside the Oval Office, said I was most effective standing outside." 

[Pam Cummings 9685]

21 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

You better promise to this board that you will vote for Diamond Joe if he wins the nomination.  If not then I hope you never show your face around these parts ever again if Trump wins in 2020 as it will be entirely your fault.

If Joe wins the nomination, everything is rigged and nothing matters anyway.

[Js1 85612]

47 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

You better promise to this board that you will vote for Diamond Joe if he wins the nomination.  If not then I hope you never show your face around these parts ever again if Trump wins in 2020 as it will be entirely your fault.

There will be a pile of dead Boomer bodies left in my path on my way to the ballot box to press the button for Joe.  I will not sit out or vote third party against Donald Trump. 

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

There will be a pile of dead Boomer bodies

[BradInATX 9208]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

He has by far the most ambitious plans for dealing with the two biggest issues: Healthcare and climate change

And the entire debate is going to revolve around him anyway. Might as well roll grandpa up there to waggle his fingers and shout.

As you prove time and time again, being the center of attention isn't always a good thing.

[FondrenRoad 4378]

15 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

lolz

We should focus on these 2 tiny states because they vote first!  Let's ignore 99% of the population. Free Tulsi!  As goes South Carolina, so goes the world. 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

1 hour ago, Pam Cummings said:

If Joe wins the nomination, everything is rigged and nothing matters anyway.

That's bullshit. As much as I don't want Joe to win, he has a real and substantial following among moderate and old Democrats. If he wins, he wins. 

[Fozzz 152]

Maybe democrats like the idea of their candidate forgetting where or who he is from time to time?  Did you think of that, Pam?  

[bad_teammate 13225]

7 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

If he wins, he wins. 

And...

 

[bad_teammate 13225]

2 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

Maybe democrats like the idea of their candidate forgetting where or who he is from time to time?  Did you think of that, Pam?  

Joseph Biden has come unstuck in time. Joseph has gone to sleep a senile presidential candidate and awakened on his inauguration day.

[Fozzz 152]

Maybe the "electability" argument for Biden is internalized by Dems as meaning that - hey, Trump is functionally retarded - why don't we nominate someone like that?  Gotta fight fire with fire, as they say.  

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

8 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

That's bullshit. As much as I don't want Joe to win, he has a real and substantial following among moderate and old Democrats. If he wins, he wins. 

Eh, he’s run for President twice and been resoundingly rejected.  This was when he had all his mental faculties. 

His candidacy is mostly smoke and mirrors based around a marketing strategy and his connection to Obama. 

I wouldn’t say it’s rigged if Biden gets the nomination but I’d argue the DNC primary system successfully deceived the population with a bad candidate to protect a crippling status quo. 

[Mojo Hand 4580]

54 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Eh, he’s run for President twice and been resoundingly rejected.  This was when he had all his mental faculties. 

His candidacy is mostly smoke and mirrors based around a marketing strategy and his connection to Obama. 

I wouldn’t say it’s rigged if Biden gets the nomination but I’d argue the DNC primary system successfully deceived the population with a bad candidate to protect a crippling status quo. 

I don't see how that would be attributable to the DNC primary system.   Maybe in 2016, but this time around there are many alternative candidates to make the case for themselves, and the DNC is giving them more than enough opportunity to do so. 

Edited August 30, 2019 by Mojo Hand