2020 Democratic Nominee

[bad_teammate 13,132]

I am grateful that our exposure to CNN/NYT's inevitable-BS questions is limited.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

17 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

The debates are stupid either way.

I still like my round robin debate idea.  Take the top five, have one-on-one hour long debates.

Do two debates a week and stretch it out over five weeks starting in November. 

you’d have 10 debates :

Week 1:  Kamala vs Pete and Biden vs Sanders

Week 2:  Warren vs Sanders and Biden vs Pete

Week 3: Warren vs Kamala and Sanders vs Pete

Week 4: Biden vs Kamala and Warren vs Pete

Week 5: Biden vs Warren and Sanders vs Kamala

Everyone gets a bye week.

Edited September 27, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[bad_teammate 13,132]

Only good if it's hosted by like CSPAN or something. Corporate media is always and will always be garbage.

[Js1 85,095]

Can't wait to see Tulsi get destroyed on impeachment.  

"Too divisive"

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

Only good if it's hosted by like CSPAN or something. Corporate media is always and will always be garbage.

You could do it on cable news if you ditch the crafted/loaded questions and go with topics to discuss.  

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

They should give more questions/time in the debate to the frontrunners.   

[bad_teammate 13,132]

Tulsi is going to get lit on fire about impeachment and that will be hilarious. She'll try to kamikaze someone else like she did Harris, which will also be hilarious. I hope it's Joe. It will fail spectacularly if it's Bernie or Liz.

[henrygandorf 29,174]

everybody - 10 people on the stage is too many.

cnn - oh totally.  but, hear me out...what about 12?

 

[henrygandorf 29,174]

3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Tulsi is going to get lit on fire about impeachment and that will be hilarious. She'll try to kamikaze someone else like she did Harris, which will also be hilarious. I hope it's Joe. It will fail spectacularly if it's Bernie or Liz.

i think the candidates should show tulsi what divisive means, and let her sit in the audience.

[henrygandorf 29,174]

tulsi now supports impeachment per cnn.

there will be a link or tweet up soon.

take notes.  this is how you lead, people.

[Hank Kingsley 20,678]

Just now, henrygandorf said:

tulsi now supports impeachment per cnn.

there will be a link or tweet up soon.

take notes.  this is how you lead, people.

And here you go. 

 

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

tulsi now supports impeachment per cnn.

there will be a link or tweet up soon.

take notes.  this is how you lead, people.

The reality, unfortunately, is that the Dem leadership doesn't know how to go on offense with political messaging.   And Mueller didn't help with the way he did his report.   This whistleblower essentially took matters into his own hands and drafted the right messaging in his complaint. 

[henrygandorf 29,174]

1 minute ago, Mojo Hand said:

The reality, unfortunately, is that the Dem leadership doesn't know how to go on offense with political messaging.   And Mueller didn't help with the way he did his report.   This whistleblower essentially took matters into his own hands and drafted the right messaging in his complaint. 

well it also helped that trump and giuliani have already basically confessed.

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

8 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

well it also helped that trump and giuliani have already basically confessed.

True.  Although they've likely had the complaint for weeks, so their response has to be considered in the context of them knowing that this was likely to come out.   If they were blindsided, they might have lied first. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

46 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

And here you go. 

 

Pretty sure Tulsi was stalling on impeachment because her base is Trump voters.  Will her base turn on Tulsi or Trump?  No one cares, they both suck.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

Yang in whiteface.  He’s finished. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

6 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Pretty sure Tulsi was stalling on impeachment because her base is Trump voters.  Will her base turn on Tulsi or Trump?  No one cares, they both suck.

Oh hey

Praying Medic is one of the Qanon leading twitter voices with over 239k followers. 

Not that anyone gives a shit but this was funny.

[henrygandorf 29,174]

warren interview today with mj lee on cnn (video in link).

this is a great chance for her to speak to america, in real time, about something that is actually relevant to her as a candidate (i don't really care what biden thinks about impeachment).

1. she's a senator, so she has a say, and has an opinion about what her republican colleagues might do (she gets asked about it). 

2. she's running as the anti-corruption candidate, and the timing of the trump nonsense and the juxtaposition is just too perfect.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/27/elizabeth-warren-ukraine-whistleblower-intv-sot-vpx.cnn

[Hank Kingsley 20,678]

Pete spoke today in Austin at the Tribune Festival. I'm biased, but found it to be one of his better interviews. Worth the watch if you want to hear some interesting broader outlooks instead of wonky policy stuff and number crunching. 

Stephanie Ruhle interviewed him.

 

Edited September 28, 2019 by Hank Kingsley

[bad_teammate 13,132]

*bongStalin420 with 8 followers on Twitter says something mean to a journalist*

Dem establishment & mainstream press: "Sanders needs to come out personally and apologize for what his awful supporters are saying!"

*MSNBC contributor says all Bernie supporters are just sexists*

Dem establishment & mainstream press: "... ... ..."

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

To be fair to Pete, he didn’t “take aim” at Elizabeth Warren in this reporting.  Still not the best answer, very Delaney like. 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

55 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

*bongStalin420 with 8 followers on Twitter says something mean to a journalist*

Dem establishment & mainstream press: "Sanders needs to come out personally and apologize for what his awful supporters are saying!"

*MSNBC contributor says all Bernie supporters are just sexists*

Dem establishment & mainstream press: "... ... ..."

Lots of Warren supporters in the comments condemning this pundit’s analysis.   Good to see.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

 

[Js1 85,095]

15 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

To be fair to Pete, he didn’t “take aim” at Elizabeth Warren in this reporting.  Still not the best answer, very Delaney like. 

 

He’s been making subtle jabs at Warren, Harris, Bernie and Biden. Sack up and hit them instead of playing coy. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

He’s been making subtle jabs at Warren, Harris, Bernie and Biden. Sack up and hit them instead of playing coy. 

Sneaky Pete is a common theme I’m seeing.

[Patrick Bateman 3,903]

Just now, Js1 said:

He’s been making subtle jabs at Warren, Harris, Bernie and Biden. Sack up and hit them instead of playing coy. 

Where he is in the polls and with his most likely career aspirations, it doesn't make a ton of sense to incite bad blood with some of those folks.  Bernie maybe as he's older and doesn't have a good path to the nomination but his influence runs deep.  Making distinctions between who he and his opponents is one thing.  Starting a street fight is quite another.  

Moving on.  I found this a bit interesting.  Nobody is going as angry and as aggressive as Beto on guns.  Hegar basically just wants to walk back open carry.

 

[bad_teammate 13,132]

He's so proud of his great-grandchildren.

[tantric superman 4,667]

Booker needs some more cash, so the texts tell me, or he won't qualify for next debate.   I'm still thinking this guy could get some wings with just a bit more time selling the idea that his tent would be pretty wide.

Pretty good short interview:

https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/the-new-yorker-radio-hour/cory-booker-looks-for-his-moment

Donate:

https://corybooker.com/

 

[Hank Kingsley 20,678]

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

To be fair to Pete, he didn’t “take aim” at Elizabeth Warren in this reporting.  Still not the best answer, very Delaney like. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

He’s been making subtle jabs at Warren, Harris, Bernie and Biden. Sack up and hit them instead of playing coy. 

 

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Sneaky Pete is a common theme I’m seeing.

Watch the video and stop being so sensitive. God forbid a candidate actually answers questions. 

 

Edited September 28, 2019 by Hank Kingsley

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

His answers suck though.  Electability? lmao that’s not even a real thing Pete and you know it.

 “we need to be bold but we need to come together?”  Means nothing except “I’m kind of a scared of pissing people off.”

Warren:  “We need to go on offense, fuck playing defense”

Bernie:  “Revolution time”

Pete and Biden:  “Whoa whoa whoa everyone, let’s talk this out and maybe the other side will see it our way.”

Edited September 28, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Hank Kingsley 20,678]

He was ready to explain his electability response but Ruhle cut him off. Hate his answers, I don't give a shit. 

At least he's not constantly dodging questions.

 

 

Edited September 28, 2019 by Hank Kingsley

[Js1 85,095]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

He was ready to explain his electability response but Ruhle cut him off. Hate his answers, I don't give a shit. 

At least he's not constantly dodging questions.

 

 

Hugo gonna have a sad now. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

Devastating burn, Liz might lose now.  I’m in pieces. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

 

[Hank Kingsley 20,678]

Biden still dominating in SC. 

 

Here's Nevada

 

Steyer gets 3-4% in these two states just by running TV ads. Crazy. 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

I think that’s the lowest number for Biden in Nevada yet. 

[Message Board User 12,389]

Interesting analysis and evidence that the Dems don't need to worry about converting Trump voters or independents.

 

[Hank Kingsley 20,678]

Today is the last day of fundraising for Q3. 

Summer is kind of a dead period. Will be very interesting to see numbers come in and determine the viability of the 2nd/3rd tier candidates. 

 

 

 

[bad_teammate 13,132]

If the goal is to replace Trump and then spend 4 years getting nothing done, then yes, we don't need to do much of anything.

If we want Big, Structural Change, we need huge wins that will get us to the entire Congress and the White House.

[tantric superman 4,667]

Booker made it into the Nov. debate!

[Fozzz 152]

This is as brain dead as anything I've seen from Sleepy Joe.

 

[tantric superman 4,667]

3 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

This is as brain dead as anything I've seen from Sleepy Joe.

 

And you may ask yourself...this is not my beautiful house, these are not my beautiful shoes!

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

Exclusive: Elizabeth Warren's husband has stayed out of the spotlight. Now he's opening up about their 2020 'adventure'

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/30/politics/elizabeth-warren-bruce-mann-cnntv/index.html

Adorable puff piece interview with Bruce Mann and Elizabeth Warren 

[henrygandorf 29,174]

16 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Exclusive: Elizabeth Warren's husband has stayed out of the spotlight. Now he's opening up about their 2020 'adventure'

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/30/politics/elizabeth-warren-bruce-mann-cnntv/index.html

Adorable puff piece interview with Bruce Mann and Elizabeth Warren 

yet another total hatchet job by cnn/msm.  disgraceful.

they accuse her of objectifying him and his good legs.

[bad_teammate 13,132]

Just rewatched this and god damn we can wreck Donald and sweep in progressive change with Liz as a candidate if we handle this right.

This whole DNA test escapade was a joke and an embarrassment, so that aspect of the video is bad, but the fundamental story she has of divorce and working/schooling motherhood could be HUGE in a general where we need women to turn out strong.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

The flailing continues

[bad_teammate 13,132]

I can't quite put my finger on the historical precedent of libs who melt down for anything but 100%-uncritical praise of Mother, but... it's just... it's just so hard to think of it...

[Celery Man 20,882]

This filing deadline is the closest I’ve felt to being a hot hot chick. Quit texting me you boners.

[bad_teammate 13,132]

GUILLOTINES

This shit makes me want to run through a brick wall.

We can fucking WIN

Edited October 1, 2019 by bad_teammate

[Hank Kingsley 20,678]

Not surprising, but confirmation that Kamala's campaign has been a total mess so far.