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10 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Now seeing some scuttlebutt that Biden is gonna put up a surprising lower Q3 number. His online fundraising has been poor apparently. 

I'm guessing Warren is waiting for Joe to announce so she can flop the nuts on him. 

 

If its a number between Kamala and Pete, he's done.  That would be god awful for a "frontrunner" leading in the polls. 

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2 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

Republican Primary Candidates:  “Your father killed JFK and you’re a lying piece of shit!  Yeah, well you are an unhinged moron unfit to hold office!  Oh really?  Well, at least we both agree that Jeb is a lying globalist RINO cuck who wants illegal immigrants to take over the country!”

Republican voters:  “They all seem fine, except Jeb, because fuck that lying globalist RINO cuck.  That pussy just stood there and talked about decorum and foreign policy and shit and didn’t even dispute it.  Sackless wonder!”

Democrat Primary Candidates:  “I don’t mean to step on any toes here.  I think Elizabeth Warren is the best - she’s like if someone combined Abraham Lincoln and Mother Teresa.  I love her more than my own mother.  But, if I may be so bold, since I am running after all, I think you should vote for me because I would be a good President, too.   I say that with all due respect - please forgive me.”

Democrat voters:  “Who the fuck is this bitch taking shots at Liz?  How dare him!  Of all the dirty tricks ... what nerve this motherfucker has to try to get us to actually vote for him.  And you know what?  He’s a phony, too!  As soon as he started getting donations, he was all like, “Hey, you should consider voting for me.  I’m the best candidate.  I’d like to win.”  Fuck you and your Koch brothers money!  I’m not voting if you win! Justice for Liz!”

 

Stop clutching your pearls about Buttigieg simply existing and campaigning against other candidates.  He’s not even going to win, which makes all the bitching about him even more peculiar.

Lol, pretty good analysis.

For me, I wanted Pete to be so much more.  Perhaps that’s my fault for having high expectations of a 37 year old mayor from South Bend.  My angst with him is mostly out of disappointment.  He could have been a forceful leader among the democrats and taken the party somewhere.  Maybe he still can, only time will tell. 

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

New SC poll has Biden +20 at 37% to Warren 17% - Bernie 8 - Harris 7 - everyone else under 5

Black voters go Biden 46 - Harris 10 - Warren 9 - Sanders 8

Overall - Only 1/3rd of voters are very sure of their choice.  Nearly half might change their mind.  But Black voters are 41% sure and 44% might change mind.  

I love how South Carolina is Joe Biden’s stronghold now.  How is South Carolina going to look when Binden comes in 4th in Iowa and 3rd in NH?

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1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Yang, wow. 

Thought he'd put up an impressive number, but $10 million is an eye opener. 

 

I wonder how many of that came from the gameshow prize stunt at the debate that may or not even be legal. 

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From the Monmouth poll asked of all voters:

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Some takeaways:

1.  This is the most HATED I’ve seen Trump in a poll.  I’ve never seen him crack 50% in “very unfavorable”

2.  Warren still has some name recognition gap to make up with 8% saying they’ve never heard of her.  

3. Buttigieg has a name recognition gap too but for a Mayor of South Bend that was unknown to 99% of the population nine months ago, he’s been insanely effective at reaching the population with only 21% saying they’ve never heard of him. 

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If the democrats wanted to play dirty in the general election, they’d shadow message that Trump is a crypto-Democrat bankrupting the country and Elizabeth Warren is actually a Republican Trojan horse sent to take down the deep state establishment. 

Half of Trump’s base and the Qtard conspiracy theory mouth breathers would eat that shit up.

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Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Because it’s the most TOPICAL issue FACING THE FUCKING COUNTRY 

They are running for President in 2020. They are talking to voters about why they would be the best candidate.

And they've all made statements about impeachment already.  Just watch cable news to get your fill. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

They are running for President in 2020. They are talking to voters about why they would be the best candidate.

And they've all made statements about impeachment already.  Just watch cable news to get your fill. 

 

Fuck that.  These people are campaigning on Trump being a threat to the country.  The debate gives them an opportunity to make the case to remove Trump now or wait until the election.  If you actually cared about getting Trump out of office, you’d want that topic to come up in the debate because it’s an opportunity to move the needle more with public opinion. 

A prime time debate can influence public opinion WAY more than a Pelosi press conference.  

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4 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Other than Gabbard, are we worried that there is a candidate who is actually against Congress impeaching Trump?

It gives them a chance to frame the impeachment issue in a thoughtful way. It’s also an opportunity to educate the low info public on why impeachment is happening.  The more direct messaging from these professional messengers the better. 

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Fuck that.  These people are campaigning on Trump being a threat to the country.  The debate gives them an opportunity to make the case to remove Trump now or wait until the election.  If you actually cared about getting Trump out of office, you’d want that topic to come up in the debate because it’s an opportunity to move the needle more with public opinion. 

A prime time debate can influence public opinion WAY more than a Pelosi press conference.  

Their job as presidential candidates is to win the GE in 2020 and lead this country post-Trump. 

As BT has said, they are all pro-impeachment outside of Gabbard. Talking about it at the debate will just be a contest of who can put out the best one-liner to appease the #Resisters. No thanks. 

 

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