2020 Democratic Nominee

[SubliminalHorn 6995]

1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

"Hold my beer"

I think I just vommed a little 

[Js1 86938]

 

[bad_teammate 13479]

I wouldn't donate a dollar or a minute for Biden 2020. The most he can hope for is the same disgusted vote I gave Hillary.

[Fozzz 152]

I will not vote for him and if he wins the nomination I will laugh when he loses to Trump. I will laugh so fucking hard. 

[bad_teammate 13479]

1 minute ago, Fozzz said:

I will not vote for him and if he wins the nomination I will laugh when he loses to Trump. I will laugh so fucking hard. 

Fixed for me.

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

 

 

 

[Fozzz 152]

Multiple paths baby. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21516]

58 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Please Democrats, don’t fuck this up. 

Narrator: “they absolutely will”

[Bozo_Casanova 26773]

All Democrats should call their plans Medicare for All, because it’s a great brand and means whatever you want it to.

[GSU&UT 1799]

 

[Fozzz 152]

DP

Edited November 8, 2019 by Fozzz

[F250 29172]

The phrase zoomer is so fetch.

 

 

 

 

[Zonahorn 8079]

46 minutes ago, F250 said:

The phrase zoomer is so fetch.

 

 

 

 

Stop trying to make fetch happen, it’s not going to happen 

[Zavala 1384]

 

[Fozzz 152]

Donald Trump, the cheeto dick buffoon, is President of the United States, an office Kamala will never hold.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Stacey Abrams sighting 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

I hate him more every day.

[TexEx15 17913]

16 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I hate him more every day.

Right!  What an asshole making all these valid points without bowing to the extreme left.  How dare he.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

16 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Right!  What an asshole making all these valid points without bowing to the extreme left.  How dare he.

No one in the race is far left.  

[BradInATX 9208]

I hate him more every day.

He's not wrong.

[henrygandorf 29218]

51 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I hate him more every day.

[horncyclist 1391]

The problem with Buttigieg is how naive he is that he can just go in with this kumbaya work together shit and expect republicans to go along with it. After they recover from the Trump Presidency, they'll refocus on undermining the democratic president. They would eat Pete alive. He's Obama's middle-way technocratic bullshit in a smaller gayer package. Without the same transcendent personal narrative that made Obama a transformative personality, if not a transformative President. 

Edited November 9, 2019 by horncyclist

[Michael Knight 13187]

9 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

 

 

https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

When this is all over next year, all of you little bitches that got sucked in to the anti-Pete Twitter echo chamber will be sucking him off when he backs the eventual candidate. What an embarrassing display of hate. 

 

 

Edited November 9, 2019 by Hank Kingsley

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

I can see what Pete says and does.  That’s mainly why I don’t like him. 

ETA:  To elaborate, Pete came out of the gate saying all the right things like how democrats need to stop falling for Republican talking points/framing and how the the Dems need to take back the narrative. 

Six months later he’s gay Mitt Romney because it plays better. 

The worst part is Pete is smart and knows exactly what he’s doing.  

Edited November 9, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I can see what Pete says and does.  That’s mainly why I don’t like him. 

ETA:  To elaborate, Pete came out of the gate saying all the right things like how democrats need to stop falling for Republican talking points/framing and how the the Dems need to take back the narrative. 

Six months later he’s gay Mitt Romney because it plays better. 

The worst part is Pete is smart and knows exactly what he’s doing.  

The worst part is it's so easy to see how far down the Warren rabbit hole on Twitter you've gone. I bet you follow grifters like Ryan Knight (user name @ProudResister LOL!)

 

 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

You can’t argue with the substance, so attack the messenger.  

I can tell you exactly why I support Warren but can you make the case for Pete?  I’m dying to hear it.  

Edited November 9, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

The substance of your argument is bullshit. He hasn't changed positions. He doesn't use "Republican talking points" (that's my favorite, what a joke). 

 

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I can tell you exactly why I support Warren but can you make the case for Pete?  I’m dying to hear it.  

Reasonable healthcare reform, wants to legalize marijuana, want to decriminalize all drugs, anti-EC, wants more Constitutional amendments, get rid of Trumps tax cuts, free college for lower income families, foreign policy experience and knowledge.

He proposes a lot of progressive policy (not as hardcore as Bernie and Warren obviously) without using tone or language that is going to war with half of the country. What Trump has done is basically psychological warfare on Americans, and I think Pete is the best option to navigate us to some sort of civility moving forward. It will be really fucking hard. I see him as the only one that can do it.

My top 3 candidates are Pete, Warren, and Bernie.  If Pete's not the candidate, then I'd rather go for the big change candidates. I don't believe in going back to normal.

On Twitter, Warren and Bernie (and Beto, and Harris, and Castro, lol) supporters fucking HATE Buttigieg. That animosity is not reciprocated by the vast majority Pete supporters. I wonder why. 

 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

So things like “take away your private health insurance” isn’t Republican scaremonger framing of a single payer healthcare system?   Because Pete loves that talking point. 

You see what you want to see with him.  I’ll keep calling out the contradictions I see. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Reasonable healthcare reform, wants to legalize marijuana, want to decriminalize all drugs, anti-EC, wants more Constitutional amendments, get rid of Trumps tax cuts, free college for lower income families, foreign policy experience and knowledge.

He proposes a lot of progressive policy (not as hardcore as Bernie and Warren obviously) without using tone or language that is going to war with half of the country. What Trump has done is basically psychological warfare on Americans, and I think Pete is the best option to navigate us to some sort of civility moving forward. It will be really fucking hard. I see him as the only one that can do it.

My top 3 candidates are Pete, Warren, and Bernie.  If Pete's not the candidate, then I'd rather go for the big change candidates. I don't believe in going back to normal.

So you like Pete for policy reasons and his soft approach to unity.  That’s cool but you used be pretty hardcore about not pandering to the Trumpublicans.  Perhaps Pete showed you a better way but I think old Hank had it right before Pete came along. 

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

On Twitter, Warren and Bernie (and Beto, and Harris, and Castro, lol) supporters fucking HATE Buttigieg. That animosity is not reciprocated by the vast majority Pete supporters. I wonder why. 

They hate Pete because he went negative running attack ads on Bernie and Warren who have been genuinely fighting for working families since Pete was in diapers.  He showed his true colors and a lot of people felt burned by Pete, myself included. 

Pete brought it on himself. 

That you can’t see that is remarkable. 

Edited November 9, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

53 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

So you like Pete for policy reasons and his soft approach to unity.  That’s cool but you used be pretty hardcore about not pandering to the Trumpublicans.  Perhaps Pete showed you a better way but I think old Hank had it right before Pete came along. 

They hate Pete because he went negative running attack ads on Bernie and Warren who have been genuinely fighting for working families since Pete was in diapers.  He showed his true colors and a lot of people felt burned by Pete, myself included. 

Pete brought it on himself. 

That you can’t see that is remarkable. 

He's not pandering to Trumpublicans. This is a BS talking point. He's welcoming Republicans "with a conscience".  He is not going to talk negatively about voters, but he will (and has repeatedly) called out Republicans in Congress.

Yes, Pete has brought this whole contending in Iowa and moving up in the polls with high favorability on himself. What a dumbass.  He had a clear path to the nomination with 0% name recognition 8 months ago and is fucking it up in real time. 

 

 

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

BREAKING: DC establishment candidates pissed that young, bright outsider has better organizational and campaign skills. 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

However, I do appreciate the chess-master level sleight of hand Pete has pulled off.  Pete got a platform on the early media tour by saying things that don’t normally get said on cable news. He was provocative enough to keep people listening and wanting more.  He has built an effective campaign off that early media access.  He made the most for himself out of his position.  Props.

Edited November 9, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[bad_teammate 13479]

How is Pete going to pay for Medicare for everyone who will Want It?

How is Pete going to guarantee my health insurance choices remain available under his plan?

On the #1 issue, he's fundamentally dishonest and he uses right-wing talking points ("LEFTISTS WANT TO STEAL YOUR CHOICES!") that are also lies. His supporters can't even really deny it or deal with it.

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As for women and minority candidates being furious about a white guy with zero track record getting attention over them... uh... think about it for a few seconds.

The Pete Buttigieg campaign is white identity politics for NPR liberals.

Edited November 9, 2019 by bad_teammate

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

6 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

BREAKING: DC establishment candidates pissed that young, bright outsider has better organizational and campaign skills. 

A small part of me wants Pete to jump to front runner just to see the rest of the field go dracarys on him in a debate.  Pete isn’t going to get that test though because he’s too adorable. 

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

Haha, people will definitely go after him in the next debate. 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

Haha, people will definitely go after him in the next debate. 

Maybe Tulsi, Klobuchar, or Harris but no one is going to punch down at Pete. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21516]

14 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

A small part of me wants Pete to jump to front runner just to see the rest of the field go dracarys on him in a debate.  Pete isn’t going to get that test though because he’s too adorable. 

You're turning into b_t, as it pertains to Pete.  Take a fucking chill pill. 

[bad_teammate 13479]

16 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Maybe Tulsi, Klobuchar, or Harris but no one is going to punch down at Pete. 

Just more homophobia from women and minorities.

It's sad, really.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

6 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

You're turning into b_t, as it pertains to Pete.  Take a fucking chill pill. 

You’re right I am way too concerned with Pete.  I see Pete as a prelude to what our politics is going to look like in ten or twenty years and it’s irritating. 

[henrygandorf 29218]

21 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Maybe Tulsi, Klobuchar, or Harris but no one is going to punch down at Pete. 

sick burn. warren has already taken a couple casual pokes. nothing vicious like pete’s attack ads though. 

[bad_teammate 13479]

6 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

You’re right I am way too concerned with Pete.  I see Pete as a prelude to what our politics is going to look like in ten or twenty years and it’s irritating. 

Pete is a bargain-basement Obama. It's fucking depressing.

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

sick burn. warren has already taken a couple casual pokes. nothing vicious like pete’s attack ads though. 

How is Pete going to pay for Medicare for everyone who will Want It?

How is Pete going to guarantee my health insurance choices remain available under his plan?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

Pete is a bargain-basement Obama. It's fucking depressing.

 

Pete knows all the data driven pressure points to hit to maximize the likelihood of success.  I know these techniques have been around for decades but I’ve never seen someone wield them so effectively.  He’s extraordinarily talented. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21516]

36 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

You’re right I am way too concerned with Pete.  I see Pete as a prelude to what our politics is going to look like in ten or twenty years and it’s irritating. 

Compromise?  Because that’s what we need to succeed in a democracy.

 

[henrygandorf 29218]

43 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Pete is a bargain-basement Obama. It's fucking depressing.

How is Pete going to pay for Medicare for everyone who will Want It?

How is Pete going to guarantee my health insurance choices remain available under his plan?

how is bernie going to get his version of m4a passed?

[henrygandorf 29218]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

So you like Pete for policy reasons and his soft approach to unity.  That’s cool but you used be pretty hardcore about not pandering to the Trumpublicans.  Perhaps Pete showed you a better way but I think old Hank had it right before Pete came along. 

They hate Pete because he went negative running attack ads on Bernie and Warren who have been genuinely fighting for working families since Pete was in diapers.  He showed his true colors and a lot of people felt burned by Pete, myself included. 

Pete brought it on himself. 

That you can’t see that is remarkable. 

pete should’ve positioned himself to finish 3rd on progressive voters’ ballots.  at least he would be more likable to the hugos of the world. 

how dare he try to differentiate himself to try to get votes. 

[bad_teammate 13479]

18 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

how is bernie going to get his version of m4a passed?

- Motivating voters nationwide to bring in Democratic majorities in the Senate and House.
- Pushing Senate Dems to change the Senate's filibuster rules to allow simple majority passage of legislation.
- Using the bully pulpit as president to pressure Congresspeople ~*~ on both sides ~*~ to support the legislation.

Will it definitely work? Nope, but it's an open and honest plan that he talks about constantly.

Can you answer my questions now?

How is Pete going to pay for Medicare for everyone who will Want It?

How is Pete going to guarantee my health insurance choices remain available under his plan?

33 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Compromise?  Because that’s what we need to succeed in a democracy.

Compromise is what you do to try and get votes for legislation in Congress as you deal directly with amenable Congresspeople who might vote your way.

If Pete's actual goal is single-payer healthcare, who is Pete compromising with right now? (Please answer this question.)

15 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

pete should’ve positioned himself to finish 3rd on progressive voters’ ballots.  at least he would be more likable to the hugos of the world. 

how dare he try to differentiate himself to try to get votes. 

He is free to differentiate himself from actual progressives by using Republican talking points against single-payer healthcare.

He is free to use white professional class identity signifiers to gather a ton of eager white NPR voters who want to protect their wealth and vampiric industries.

He is free to insinuate/openly say that minorities don't like him because minorities are homophobic.

We are free to say out loud that he's doing those things.

FREEDOM! 

[henrygandorf 29218]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

- Motivating voters nationwide to bring in Democratic majorities in the Senate and House.
- Pushing Senate Dems to change the Senate's filibuster rules to allow simple majority passage of legislation.
- Using the bully pulpit as president to pressure Congresspeople ~*~ on both sides ~*~ to support the legislation.

Will it definitely work? Nope, but it's an open and honest plan that he talks about constantly.

Can you answer my questions now?

How is Pete going to pay for Medicare for everyone who will Want It?

How is Pete going to guarantee my health insurance choices remain available under his plan?

Compromise is what you do to try and get votes for legislation in Congress as you deal directly with amenable Congresspeople who might vote your way.

If Pete's actual goal is single-payer healthcare, who is Pete compromising with right now? (Please answer this question.)

He is free to differentiate himself from actual progressives by using Republican talking points against single-payer healthcare.

He is free to use white professional class identity signifiers to gather a ton of eager white NPR voters who want to protect their wealth and vampiric industries.

He is free to insinuate/openly say that minorities don't like him because minorities are homophobic.

We are free to say out loud that he's doing those things.

FREEDOM! 

pro-tip: consider decaf a couple days a week. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

2 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Compromise?  Because that’s what we need to succeed in a democracy.

Punching left on healthcare in a Democratic primary isn’t compromising, it’s counterproductive to any advocate of a single payer healthcare system.  

Every other developed country on earth has figured out healthcare better than the United States partially because guys like Pete throw cold water all over movements pushing for a real long term solution. All in the name of political expediency. 

The #1 issue among voters in a first world country should not be basic healthcare coverage.  The voters in Germany don’t concern themselves with prehistoric problems like healthcare.  They’re voting on climate change instead. 

Edited November 9, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz