2020 Democratic Nominee

[Bama Chick 28596]

Then call it the McConnell Era or “the last 15 years” - name dropping Obama was a deliberate appeal to those mysterious centrists and the nonexistent “good faith” conservatives Pete is courting.

As far as “bad faith” readings of headlines and media clickbait blurbs misrepresenting a candidate - Beto would like a word.

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

Beto's done. Let it go. 

 

 

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

Quote in context of the article. 

But it doesn't matter. He'll probably need to make a public clarification. 

 

[bad_teammate 13479]

Don't apologize, Pete, you're right!!

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

For once I’d like to see Pete lean in instead of back peddling. 

Pete should be like, “You’re goddamn right Obama fucked up.  Look at where we are now because Obama let McConnell and Putin push him around for years.  The Buttigieg administration will have a backbone!”

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

Yea, because that would really help Pete with the minority vote.  I think most educated folks can understand what he was trying (and failing) to say, but damn, if that's not an unforced error.  He already can't get minorities to back him, this ain't gonna help.  It'll be over and through the news cycle by Tuesday....until it's brought up on TV or at the debates over and over again.  

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

2 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Yea, because that would really help Pete with the minority vote.  I think most educated folks can understand what he was trying (and failing) to say, but damn, if that's not an unforced error.  He already can't get minorities to back him, this ain't gonna help.  It'll be over and through the news cycle by Tuesday....until it's brought up on TV or at the debates over and over again.  

He’s not going to offend many people in Iowa and that’s all that matters.  Pete’s likelihood of resonating with black voters was well beyond repair before this.  

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

Haha love the photoshop at the bottom. Trolls gonna troll. 

 

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

Pete tends to throw on his intellectual/pundit hat when speaking with print and online journalists. Context and nuance are in peril when it comes to written pieces about him. He’s got be more careful with his wording in that environment.

More TV, less print is probably the best way to go for him.
 

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

Update: The journalist misquoted him. 

JFC
 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

I suspected something was fishy when Pete actually said something with substance.

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

If you're wondering how Dotard wins again in 2020, the media and Trumpian tendencies of the left will be the answer. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

It’s odd Pete didn’t call out the misquote immediately no?  

[DigglerontheHoof 21516]

5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

If you're wondering how Dotard wins again in 2020, the media and Trumpian tendencies of the left will be the answer. 

This is true and just one more reason I'm about to hop on the ledge w/ Brisket.  Dems are morons.  Only a party full of idiots could make the 2020 election close.  Any competent party could put up a candidate that would wipe the fucking floor w/ Trump's orange wig.  

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

3 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

This is true and just one more reason I'm about to hop on the ledge w/ Brisket.  Dems are morons.  Only a party full of idiots could make the 2020 election close.  Any competent party could put up a candidate that would wipe the fucking floor w/ Trump's orange wig.  

Such weird framing that Americans voting for Trump is somehow always the democrats fault and not the morons that vote for him. 

The media has already fucked up the framing of the 2020 race by viewing through the prism of “which democrat is the most electable?!?” 

The 2020 race is a referendum on Donald Trump.  The American people get to decide if they want to fire Donald Trump.  This is the heart of the election.  The bullshit “electability” should be an afterthought right now.  But media gonna media and pretend this is going to be a close race regardless if the democrats nominated Barack Obama again. 

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

 

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

9 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

 

[DigglerontheHoof 21516]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Such weird framing that Americans voting for Trump is somehow always the democrats fault and not the morons that vote for him. 

The media has already fucked up the framing of the 2020 race by viewing through the prism of “which democrat is the most electable?!?” 

The 2020 race is a referendum on Donald Trump.  The American people get to decide if they want to fire Donald Trump.  This is the heart of the election.  The bullshit “electability” should be an afterthought right now.  But media gonna media and pretend this is going to be a close race regardless if the democrats nominated Barack Obama again. 

Hey, if I have to eat crow on this, it'll be the tastiest plate of crow ever.  Unfortunately, I don't believe that'll  be necessary. 

[bad_teammate 13479]

28 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

If you're wondering how Dotard wins again in 2020, the media and Trumpian tendencies of the left will be the answer. 

How do you come out of all that mad at the "left"? lol Jesus

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

Just now, bad_teammate said:

How do you come out of all that mad at the "left"? lol Jesus

I didn't mean progressives specifically, sorry. Liberals/Democrats/The Left. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

How is the “old normal” not “the Obama era?”

Whatever did you mean Pete?!  Surely you could clarify “old normal” and its failures. 

Good job Pete.

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

You have brainworms, Hugo. 

 

[Js1 86938]

This whole primary is fucking GARBAGE.  And the surly version of the primary is worse.

[David Dennison 19441]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

If you're wondering how Dotard wins again in 2020, the media and Trumpian tendencies of the left will be the answer. 

So those two things will force people not to vote? Because traditionally Democratic voters not voting is the only way he wins.

[Fozzz 152]

Maybe Mayor Mayo was inexplicably referring to Bill's presidency? lol.  The little shit finally said something I agreed with and of course he had to walk it back immediately.  

[David Dennison 19441]

The circular firing squad never disappoints.

[Bama Chick 28596]

If you're wondering how Dotard wins again in 2020, the media and Trumpian tendencies of the left will be the answer. 

If you’re wondering how a primary works, this is the answer.

And, yeah, Beto is done but he also got shit on for “born for it” (didn’t say it) and multiple other statements. And all of that followed him for months.

Pete didn’t start getting extra criticism until he -

1 - started attacking with snarky sound bites, “shiny objects” and “pocket change”

2 - moved to “palatable moderate” and started trying to draft off of Biden’s center lane

It’s not a coronation. It’s a competition.

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

16 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

 

If you’re wondering how a primary works, this is the answer.

And, yeah, Beto is done but he also got shit on for “born for it” (didn’t say it) and multiple other statements. And all of that followed him for months.

Pete didn’t start getting extra criticism until he -

1 - started attacking with snarky sound bites, “shiny objects” and “pocket change”

2 - moved to “palatable moderate” and started trying to draft off of Biden’s center lane

It’s not a coronation. It’s a competition.

 

Ok, let's hash out the Beto situation so can move on. 

His campaign went downhill shortly after he announced. He never really polled well outside of Texas, and besides his announcement day he couldn't really raise any money.  His commitment to gun control activism after El Paso was awesome and admirable. Outside of that, there isn't much to say about his campaign.

Beto was never a threat to win the nomination. Most of the attacks I saw on him came from Republicans. He shied away from media appearances early on and it was a massive mistake.

The shit Pete is getting right now is dominated by people that vote Democrat. It's a different situation. 

 

EDIT: That said, I do appreciate how much you supported Beto and the work you did on the ground for his campaign. 

Edited November 11, 2019 by Hank Kingsley

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

It's noteworthy no one questions Obama's judgement on picking Biden as his VP, in retrospect.

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

5 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Update: The journalist misquoted him. 

JFC
 

 

Reporter probably needs to be moved off the beat then.  That's an egregious mistake and the fact checker's too.

[Bama Chick 28596]

The shit Pete is getting right now is dominated by people that vote Democrat. It's a different situation.

This is a lie.

All the irrelevant and exaggerated crap about “born for it” and standing on tables and he calls his wife a baby sitter and he only cared about guns after El Paso and he’s a slacker live-streaming his dentist appointment came from supporters of other Democrats in the primary.

The Republicans were pushing the fake Mexican bit and calling him Robert Francis.

All the other stuff I mentioned started as snark from pundits on CNN and MSNBC and then spread by other democrats.

And the concern trolling about “Please run for Senate Beto!!! Don’t let your ego get in the way!” was also 100% driven by Democrats.

Don’t give republicans undeserved credit.

[henrygandorf 29218]

2 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Pete didn’t start getting extra criticism until he -

1 - started attacking with snarky sound bites, “shiny objects” and “pocket change”

 

see, that's the bigger issue here (an overall issue, not a bama chick issue).  pete gives a lot of access, and talks to a lot of reporters.  sure, these unedited excerpts get released (read the small print!) but mostly the reporters/twitter pundits find a phrase they want to highlight, then they make their tweet about that, which predictably gets a bunch of pete-haters to pile on and attack.  it also makes other "journalists" go to fellow candidates with a "quote from pete" that misrepresents (or at the very least, avoids context for) what pete says, and gets others to react to it, making it into a "thing".

over the past few months, pete has gotten a ton of hate/criticism from people who are committed to other candidates (either supporters or staffers).  those out there who are still learning about all the candidates have been reacting very well to him.  we saw this up close after the last debate. 

[henrygandorf 29218]

On 11/10/2019 at 7:33 AM, Message Board User said:

Lot of troof in this statement.

finally watched this video, and saw a whole segment on cnn about it.  while framed as a mild hit-piece on pete, it's really a significant hit-piece on voters who still won't vote for women.  and if the polls are to be believed, women are more to blame than men.  so dumb.

[Message Board User 12405]

31 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

finally watched this video, and saw a whole segment on cnn about it.  while framed as a mild hit-piece on pete, it's really a significant hit-piece on voters who still won't vote for women.  and if the polls are to be believed, women are more to blame than men.  so dumb.

That's how I interpreted it as well.  More an indictment that there's a large segment of our population who won't vote for a woman.

[Js1 86938]

3 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

That's how I interpreted it as well.  More an indictment that there's a large segment of our population who won't vote for a woman.

Well they are quite emotional

And moody

And prone to outbursts when they are on their period

And quite frail

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

Haha HOLY SHIT 

 

[Js1 86938]

[bad_teammate 13479]

hahahaha Tulsi gonna get her ass Epstein'd

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Imagine if Tulsi hated brutal dictators as much as she does Hillary.

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

 

[Js1 86938]

Quote

In a separate question, only 2 percent of likely Democratic primary voters say they would definitely vote for former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg if he got into the race, while 37 percent say they would consider voting for him, and 54 percent say they definitely would not vote for him.

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

FYI a qualifying Monmouth poll for Iowa drops tomorrow. 

 

Tulsi only needs 1 more poll to make December debates. Yang needs 2 more. 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 11, 2019 by Hank Kingsley

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

Bernie is a nice guy. 

 

[Js1 86938]

Tulsi would do well in NH because it is a state with a lot of primary voting "independents" who don't like the Democratic Party or what they stand for.  And if you are independent/undeclared, you can vote in the Democratic Primary in NH. 

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Tulsi would do well in NH because it is a state with a lot of primary voting "independents" who don't like the Democratic Party or what they stand for.  And if you are independent/undeclared, you can vote in the Democratic Primary in NH. 

Yes, NH is her best early state polling by far. 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

54 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

Tulsi and Yang have a combined 10% 

Gotta think that’s pulling the most from Bernie given the demographics. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[bad_teammate 13479]

We don't actually need ICE.