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3rd or 4th thread but whos counting.  Name recognition and ability to collect money is most important to the Democratic Party. They aren't trying to win 2020, they are trying to rebuild and colle

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i mean, the basic problem is that Democratics as a whole just don't have the will or fortitude to go for the jugular.

the occasional individual will throw a punch and land it, but they can't sustain it and you can tell their heart is not in it.

meanwhile, Republicans stalking en masse all over the country like manifest destiny incarnate.

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15 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Being dismissive and making fun of Pete on Twitter for the last 8 months has really paid off for his detractors. I'd recommend they change strategies if they want him gone. 

One thing I worry about with Pete from an electoral perspective is that there are people who voted for Trump in 2016, who are disillusioned with him now and are looking for a reason to vote for someone else, and who will nevertheless vote for Trump again if Pete is the nominee simply because Pete is openly gay. I'm thinking mainly of boomers who are incredibly homophobic.

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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

One thing I worry about with Pete from an electoral perspective is that there are people who voted for Trump in 2016, who are disillusioned with him now and are looking for a reason to vote for someone else, and who will nevertheless vote for Trump again if Pete is the nominee simply because Pete is openly gay. I'm thinking mainly of boomers who are incredibly homophobic.

can we count on these close-minded, homophobic morons to vote for bernie?

these people sound like a lost cause.

(he's not going to be the nominee, so it's hardly worth the discussion)

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David Dennison

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1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

You mean, will Bernie's base vote for bernie?

I'm thinking more like old people like boomer parents who have come to dislike Trump but might vote for him again simply because they don't want a gay fella being president. 

I'm not saying that will happen, it's just something that crosses my mind when I hear people like my parents talk about Pete being gay.

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1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

No, I get it. But I just wanted to discuss something I see as serious because I think some folks won't vote for Pete simply because he's gay. I think those folks would vote for Bernie Sanders because he's not Trump.

I was just vacationing in Utah this week and was reminded that Salt Lake City elected a lesbian mayor.  Pete is from a mostly conservative Republican state.  We're seeing more and more examples of this happening in traditionally conservative places.  Sexual orientation versus race, for example, seems to not necessarily follow the rules when it comes to assumed outward stance versus underlying sentiment.  There are probably a whole lot of people who can vote privately in support of a gay person they understand but otherwise can't muster the nerve publicly put it into words.  It seems different when it comes to race.  If your public face is one of racial bias, less likely you secretly vote for someone not your skin color.

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1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

One thing I worry about with Bernie from an electoral perspective is that there are people who voted for Trump in 2016, who are disillusioned with him now and are looking for a reason to vote for someone else, and who will nevertheless vote for Trump again if Bernie is the nominee simply because Bernie is a socialist. I'm thinking mainly of boomers who are incredibly against socialism.

FIFY. Same circular argument can be modded and applied for all candidates. Weak.

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I don't see Pete's sexual orientation as any problem whatsoever in the Nomination process. There will be exceptions, of course, but not of any significance. With Trump,  he will go reptilian brain and vomit slurs. But those who listen are not gettable voters. 

Pete's problem is his billionaires and how they moved him quickly from a progressive mindset to a billionaire lackey. It is not pretty. Remember DeVos' statement -the billionaires expect a return on their investment. 

 

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Sirota playing dirty pool?  In that tweet, David Sirota appears to be misrepresenting the contents of that Politico article.  Pete isn't "attacking MFA", he's talking about a different path with an eye on the same universal health care endpoint.  Warren has also acknowledged the difficult realities around implementation, though how bluntly she has advertised that has varied. 

Bernie varies in how he relates his vision, but is at his worst when he stumbles in explaining costs and realistic implementation:

Spoiler

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

Sirota playing dirty pool?  In that tweet, David Sirota appears to be misrepresenting the contents of that Politico article.  Pete isn't "attacking MFA", he's talking about a different path with an eye on the same universal health care endpoint.  Warren has also acknowledged the difficult realities around implementation, though how bluntly she has advertised that has varied. 

Bernie varies in how he relates his vision, but is at his worst when he stumbles in explaining costs and realistic implementation:

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Well Bernie is a Russian asset.

#Kompromat

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2 hours ago, David Dennison said:

One thing I worry about with Pete from an electoral perspective is that there are people who voted for Trump in 2016, who are disillusioned with him now and are looking for a reason to vote for someone else, and who will nevertheless vote for Trump again if Pete is the nominee simply because Pete is openly gay. I'm thinking mainly of boomers who are incredibly homophobic.

Please, please, please  let there be a camera rolling when you unveil this perspective to people your convincing how to vote in the D primaries.

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Bernie varies in how he relates his vision, but is at his worst when he stumbles in explaining costs and realistic implementation:

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Old Republican talking point must have been picked by the bots. Are you a Russian troll for Trump?

 

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38 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

You get partial credit for understanding the Mueller report.  

Russian election interference was designed to help Sanders in 2016.  And yes, they've picked up again where they left off.

Trump troll confirmed. Trump: Don't throw me in that briar patch. Trump bot: We must throw him in the briar patch.

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Yang, "I don't think socialism foresaw technology."

THAT WAS THE ENTIRE GOD DAMNED POINT OF MARXISM HOLY SHIT

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This is all part of a section where George Stephonapolous asked, "Who here thinks Bernie being a socialist is bad" and he is literally just running down the list to give them a chance to hit Bernie.

lol Jesus Christ

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