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No it doesn't, this is absurd selfishness on a grand scale. Nobody is getting punished. My wife and I paid off our student loans, and you know what I think about younger people or even those in our ge

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i’ve really enjoyed the 900 posts from bt explaining how bernie people aren’t aggressive, obsessive, and very-online.  truly a learning experience. 

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3rd or 4th thread but whos counting.  Name recognition and ability to collect money is most important to the Democratic Party. They aren't trying to win 2020, they are trying to rebuild and colle

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7 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

If he starts this and no one else follows up then he's made a gross miscalculation.

if there's nothing bad or unusual in them, then that'll be bernie telling the bad faith cable pundits to stfu.  that would be a win.  if he has something serious he's hiding, the voters deserve to know about it.  not sure how it's a miscalculation.

9 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

You're the one getting extremely hung up on what medical records exactly mean and can't take his doctors letters as being in good faith.

i'm just trying to explain why people care.  personally, i could give a shit.  but you guys seem so up-in-arms about it.

10 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

Maybe I am getting defensive but I do think it won't matter in the end. It's Surly, I spend probably half my time between here and another board and I like to post. I don't mind arguing about politics anymore and enjoy it.

it almost certainly will not matter.  it's fun to argue about stupid shit.

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1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

if there's nothing bad or unusual in them, then that'll be bernie telling the bad faith cable pundits to stfu.  that would be a win.  if he has something serious he's hiding, the voters deserve to know about it.  not sure how it's a miscalculation.

He's an old-ass dude and has old-ass dude problems, anything that just confirms this is going to be used against him. Bloomberg could the next day blanket the airwaves about Bernie's blood pressure or kidney levels and how he's not fit to run. 

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if there's nothing bad or unusual in them, then that'll be bernie telling the bad faith cable pundits to stfu.  that would be a win.  if he has something serious he's hiding, the voters deserve to know about it.  not sure how it's a miscalculation.


Is this about his taxes or medical records?
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Buttigieg's problem is not price fixing of bread.

His major weakness is propping up a broken health system that drains away more than $400 billion health care dollars a year to profiteers using mechanisms that include price fixing. He doesn't have a problem with that and wants it to continue. That is Pete's problem.

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Can’t believe that Bernie hasn’t addressed all of the huge problems that I just made up and I am sure that the Republicans will rip him to shreds using the problems I have imagined. It’s almost like I’m actually a Republican but can’t say that out loud anymore because Trump is president. 

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Because neither is a legitimate concern as the tax return issue already showed everyone who isn't a bad faith troll.

What information is necessary beyond what the 3 doctors have said to alleviate your concerns about his physical fitness for the job?

If your response is just, "Oh, not I! I am merely concerned about what others will say!" then it's so nice to have garbage talking heads on cable news here among us.
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3 hours ago, Js1 said:

God damnit.  I am so fucking over the whining, bitching, speculation, lying, gaslighting, etc. in this primary.

@immamac can I get a self-imposed CR ban until this stupid fucking primary is over?  I kind of hate everyone now. 

Sure thing bud. Just Nevada or super Tuesday as well? 

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3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Damn all the way to July???

 

See you at the crossroads, homie.

 

See you on the other side. 

I cannot take 5 more months of Bernie vs. non-Bernie arguments over M4A, healthcare, heart attacks, socialism, etc.  Especially if its a contested convention.  Shoot me in the face instead. 

 

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1 minute ago, Cheeseweasel said:

The debate is going to be a Bloomberg Gang Bang, isn't it?

Inshallah

Some center/center-left pundits are trying to say, "NO NO ATTACK BERNIE INSTEAD!" (the last Pod Save America episode revealed an emotional volcano starting to erupt) but Bloomberg is a nightmare candidate not because he will lose (he will), but because his victory would mean the Democratic Party becomes the 2003 Republican Party and the Republican Party will respond by becoming open and proud fascists.

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4 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

The swing state breakout is the most troubling.  Bern is basically a push and he brings no new states into play.  His hope is to get enough votes in all Midwestern states and one of those states repeatedly elected Mark Walker.

Not Really. Bernie and everyone but Biden are all in the margin of error for the poll so you really don't know if they are leading, tied or losing in those states. That being said, I think Amy and Pete will only go up as more people get exposed to them if they become the candidate. Those of us in this thread and following the debates don't make up the main voting block.  Bloomberg could go up or down, I don't know.  I think voters already know Biden and Bernie and they aren't going to win over voters in the lead up to the general.  

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17 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Weird, that's not how I took it at all.  Could you expand?

"Hey Twitter blue checks if you want your favorite campaign to win, you better SHAPE UP!"

They ARE winning. The Pod Saves have overseen a killing field of failure from Ossoff to Beto to Warren to Buttigieg. I don't think they hate Bernie, but after making their bones on Obama '08 they chafe very very hard at being flanked to the left. Since they're basically just becoming access-oriented media personalities, they find themselves on Twitter white-knighting Lis Smith and scoff that anyone would ever dare criticize Stacey Abrams, even when she richly deserves it.

The amount of nervous laughter about Bernie's seeming inevitability over the last two episodes is very...

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Again, not because I think they hate Bernie, but they are balls-deep in the Obama-level Dem establishment machine.

What's extremely telling is how soft they are on Bloomberg. They are critical of him, but it's kind of alarming that they aren't just outright labeling him as an unacceptable option. They'll dance around that with some of their patented nervous laughter, but at the same time they won't join the pitchforks-and-torches castle storming march.

I enjoy their show and views because they aren't like mine. Right now it's the only political podcast I'm subscribed to.

I will love Jon forever, though, because I love my Obama '08 Bros.

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7 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Your bias is showing.  They are fucking right.  Twitter Bros need to not be complete asshats and threaten people.  It doesn't help anyone.  It hurts Bernie and his cause.

FYI this Culinary Union story was so bad that they didn't double check their claims. Tweeting your anger may be annoying, it may turn people away, but isn't a threat.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, burntorangebongos said:

Well #askbloomberg is trending with some damn good questions about policies I hope they make him answer for.

I noticed that, too. Still don't get the Bloomberg love. If ever those other folks going on the stage needed to have a supersecretcallsign and pact to eviscerate him, 7:59 CST would be a good time to have one.

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2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

What information is necessary beyond what the 3 doctors have said to alleviate your concerns about his physical fitness for the job?

If your response is just, "Oh, not I! I am merely concerned about what others will say!" then it's so nice to have garbage talking heads on cable news here among us.

so is it a bad faith and meaningless question, or is it a question that he's already properly answered with the letters?

do you think voters deserve to know more about the health of all candidates, especially the older ones (70+)?  

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45 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Your bias is showing.  They are fucking right.  Twitter Bros need to not be complete asshats and threaten people.  It doesn't help anyone.  It hurts Bernie and his cause.

They aren't right, Bernie is winning.

No one cares about the menchies of the Pod Save bros. No one. I bet their wives don't even care. Their wives probably want to divorce them for it. Jon even mentions how he knows he sounds like a lunatic for being mad at the Lis-Smith-Nigeria Twitter fun last weekend.

Listen again, he even angrily tries to interject "It's not about Tweets, it's about the THREATS to the culinary union" but all he fucking talks about is his god damned menchies.

Is it turning voters off? No, it's not. No one cares. Bernie is winning.

Remember how mad we were at Donald's meanness and the deplorables' meanness? Remember how we thought it meant something? Learn lessons.

22 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

None of the PSA guys particularly care for Buttigieg anymore, as far as I know. And they seem to be much more Bernie-friendly now than ever. 

Yeah they hop from candidate to candidate, but there's a natural block for Bernie because the Bernie Bro thing is firmly established and they will only ever be equals with the rest of us. They felt empowered by Beto and Warren and even Pete for a minute but the Bernie train reaction to them if their next episode was called "We Are All Bernie Fanatics Now!" would be...

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I welcome them to the Bern Dawg's Road Dawgs, but I don't know if they'd ever be happy not being at least near the driver's seat.

1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

so is it a bad faith and meaningless question, or is it a question that he's already properly answered with the letters?

Any question asked 2 months after being answered is a bad faith question.

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do you think voters deserve to know more about the health of all candidates, especially the older ones (70+)?  

What more do you want to know?

I asked a year ago (this morning) what "full medical records" means and no one can fucking answer. Just "Uh... more!"

 

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