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4 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Which is fair, but even that should involve some kind of expressable reasoning that we can get engaged with and have substantive conversations about.

Why not Bernie? Why is anti-Bernieness so paramount?

Why do you think a lot of people don't like Bernie? 

 

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Maybe the Old Republican-Democratic Party can resurrect itself. 
 


This is the dumbest possible thing that has ever been said by an old person about to die, about his replacement.
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3 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Why do you think a lot of people don't like Bernie? 

Just answer, bud.

1 minute ago, longhornmatt said:

There have been tons of substantive discussions about Bernie’s proposals, and you ignore or dismiss every response where someone says they don’t agree with Bernie’s plans. 

Yes, there have been. That's my point. Substantive discussion of issues comes largely from the Bernie camp.

There are more Biden voters here than Bernie voters... why nothing on Joe?

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2 hours ago, washparkhorn said:
  • Judges - Bernie will appoint magnificent judges. He can change the 5th Circuit the way Trump reengineered the 9th Circuit. 
  • Institutions - Sanders policies rely on robust institutions and trust in these institutions. 
  • State Department - State Department is the key to his foreign policy. We cannot do that without dedicated officials who know the President has their backs. 
  • Criminal Enterprise - Sanders does not rely on corruption. Check his record. He is a reformer. Hence, the opposition.
  • Tax Policy - A return to pre-late 70's -80's tax policy is the hallmark of his argument against neoliberal (libertarian) economic policies. They will be progressive, but aimed more at the widening wealth inequality (which resulted from neoliberal tax policy).

 

Found an interesting old article (2011) on historical income taxes and analysis....

"THE TRUTH ABOUT TAXES" 

https://www.businessinsider.com/history-of-tax-rates

 

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To break the loop, some new stuff to think about now that it's Biden/Bernie...

Let's look at the swing states!

The Blue Wall
Michigan - 3/10
Wisconsin - 4/7
Pennsylvania - 4/28

3/27
Florida, Arizona, Ohio
 

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HG - probably a good time to look at his electability again, don't you think? He will have to beat Trump. Just put me on ignore. You won't hurt my feelings. Seriously. 

Kids in cages? Joe says he was protecting them.

Joe protecting those kids in cages and then handing them off to traffickers. 

Tell me what to say to Latino and progressive voters if Biden is at the top of the ticket. I am all ears. 

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Biden and Bernie both have issues beating Trump but both will. There are enough never Trumpers now, just like the never Hillary’s.

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I just don't see big turnout for Biden in November when he can't even form complete sentences, and you're not going to browbeat people into voting for a segregationist.  

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Biden and Bernie both have issues beating Trump but both will. There are enough never Trumpers now, just like the never Hillary’s.

god i hope THIS is the truth

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lol what a worthless fucking party. cockroaches scurrying behind the scene all in an effort to stop poor people from having healthcare.  

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Mr. Buttigieg talked with Mr. Biden and former President Barack Obama on Sunday night, according to a Democratic official familiar with the conversations. Mr. Biden asked for Mr. Buttigieg’s support and the former mayor indicated he would consider the request. Mr. Buttigieg wants to sleep on the decision, he told aides, some of whom believe he should move quickly to endorse Mr. Biden.

Mr. Obama did not specifically encourage Mr. Buttigieg to endorse Mr. Biden, said the official, who insisted on anonymity to discuss private conversations. But Mr. Obama did note that Mr. Buttigieg has considerable leverage at the moment and should think about how best to use it. Should Mr. Buttigieg endorse Mr. Biden on Monday, it could reshape the Democratic primary if many of his supporters shift to Mr. Biden, creating a more formidable centrist challenge to Mr. Sanders’s progressive movement.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/us/politics/pete-buttigieg-drops-out.html

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Biden and Bernie both have issues beating Trump but both will. There are enough never Trumpers now, just like the never Hillary’s.

This is true.

Posted
26 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Old voters are reliable and will show up to beat Trump.

Young voters aren't.

We should go with the person who will bring out as much youth vote as possible.

Old voters are also the morons most scared by a ‘socialist’.  No doubt.  So, maybe?

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2 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

We are furked. 

Great job never-trumpers. You are going to elect Trump again. 

F that, Biden already said he'd punch Donnie in the face. Hope to see more of that rhetoric 

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Joe Biden walks up to the podium and says “I’m Joe Biden and this is Jackass” and then a giant hand comes out of nowhere and hits Trump square in the face, crippling him for life. 

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Holy shit, are the Democrats actually being smart and making sure the candidate with the best chance of beating Trump actually gets to be the one to face Trump?

It's so crazy, it might actually work!

 

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Sanders doesn’t want to win. He’s old and never done all that much.  He likes to yell and wants another house.  In the Senate he’s done what, name a couple post offices?

He will be bought off like 2016.  

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Posted
2 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

We're fucked Trump is going to be re-elected. #ImwithBrisket

The past week or two is pushing me here pretty fast.

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Just now, gmr548 said:

The past week or two is pushing me here pretty fast.

Trump is going to win unless there is a recession. He’s consolidated support from Republicans he didn’t have in 2016.  

If there is a recession before Election Day, he will lose to whoever the Dems put up.  

I’m about 90 percent sure on this. 

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9 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I will laugh hysterically if Biden comes in third tomorrow.

He could be in 3rd when initial results come in as those are usually the early votes when you had more nominees but he'll rise as the night goes on and Election Day results are counted. 

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lol what a worthless fucking party. cockroaches scurrying behind the scene all in an effort to stop poor people from having healthcare.  
Mr. Buttigieg talked with Mr. Biden and former President Barack Obama on Sunday night, according to a Democratic official familiar with the conversations. Mr. Biden asked for Mr. Buttigieg’s support and the former mayor indicated he would consider the request. Mr. Buttigieg wants to sleep on the decision, he told aides, some of whom believe he should move quickly to endorse Mr. Biden.
Mr. Obama did not specifically encourage Mr. Buttigieg to endorse Mr. Biden, said the official, who insisted on anonymity to discuss private conversations. But Mr. Obama did note that Mr. Buttigieg has considerable leverage at the moment and should think about how best to use it. Should Mr. Buttigieg endorse Mr. Biden on Monday, it could reshape the Democratic primary if many of his supporters shift to Mr. Biden, creating a more formidable centrist challenge to Mr. Sanders’s progressive movement.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/us/politics/pete-buttigieg-drops-out.html


So why won’t Obama come out and endorse Joe. Chickenshit move, IMO.
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Just now, gmr548 said:

Secures the pivotal wine mom vote.

Wine moms aren’t voting for a commie like Bernie.  They might flirt with being woke.  But they like their SUVs and twice a year vacations.  

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4 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Wine moms aren’t voting for a commie like Bernie.  They might flirt with being woke.  But they like their SUVs and twice a year vacations.  

Neither of which are threatened by Bernie Sanders.

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Trump is going to win unless there is a recession. He’s consolidated support from Republicans he didn’t have in 2016.  

If there is a recession before Election Day, he will lose to whoever the Dems put up.  

I’m about 90 percent sure on this. 

Or he's going to lose because he will be more unpopular than his opponent, regardless of who it is.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Trump is going to win unless there is a recession. He’s consolidated support from Republicans he didn’t have in 2016.  

If there is a recession before Election Day, he will lose to whoever the Dems put up.  

I’m about 90 percent sure on this. 

He had 100% support on Election Day.  Biden and Bern’s lone saving grace is that Trump’s current numbers are complete shit.

Posted
3 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

And an even larger number that would be like, ‘trump sucks but no need to overreact and elect a socialist’.  Not saying those people are right but there’s a LOT of them out there.  

This is where I'm at. Always raised as a conservative Democrat. Was a fan of Amy K, but fuck socialism in it's ass. My great uncle that died in Korea would turn over in his grave. Gen Xers grew up during the Cold War when schools still had bombing drills, and paid our own way through college. 

CHIEF



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