Blastfurnace 2023

[Snake Diggity 4628]

My kids minds were blown when I told them we didn’t have AC in our home until I was in the 4th grade.  But I reassured them it wasn’t this hot.  This shit is crazy.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

Good morning from the Rockies!

[Biff Tannen 45763]

1 hour ago, Telegraph_it said:

Please be advised that conditions may be warmer than usual at George Bush Intercontinental Airport due to an unexpected air conditioning outage in all terminals. The City of Houston technicians are working to get the matter resolved as soon as possible. We appreciate your patience through this experience. Confirmation Number:

 

RIP Telegraph_it

[Biff Tannen 45763]

16 hours ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

 

atxwildcat sounds like a moron

 

8 hours ago, YGIFS said:

Uh, I know there’s a difference between weather and climate.  But there’s a fuckton of burnt fish all around the gulf and it’s not even the Solstice.  We may have a tiny problem.  

 

4 hours ago, 3adays said:

On last nights weather, Yeomans basically said he doesn’t know what’s going on and can’t explain it. 

[Armybrat 40990]

19 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

Child of the new south here. Meaning I wilt in this fucking heat and the humidity this week feels like Memphis in August.
I need air conditioning and lots of it.

I admit I am a weakass pussy. My mother was picking cotton at 5 in 100 degree heat and going home to a hot house. My old man went to west Texas to work in the oil fields and slept in a ditch. I am old enough to remember when most cars and many homes had no ac; you went to the movies to get ac relief.

1946-1949 at Fort Sam Houston & Camp Hood - same shit but without the cotton picking and sleeping in a ditch. 
All we had was table top fans (including this one from the 1930s that my son still uses) in each room.

 

 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

1 minute ago, Armybrat said:

1946-1949 at Fort Sam Houston & Camp Hood - same shit but without the cotton picking and sleeping in a ditch. 
All we had was table top fans (including this one from the 1930s that my son still uses) in each room.

 

 

AKA “The Tongue Guillotine”

[Armybrat 40990]

2 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

AKA “The Tongue Guillotine”

We called those things “finger flingers”.

[texasdago 7589]

3 hours ago, 3adays said:

On last nights weather, Yeomans basically said he doesn’t know what’s going on and can’t explain it. 

I saw it... basically... soil moisture is good so it should be keeping the temperatures in check and the high pressure system is not super strong so he showed some report that said, "climate change: you're all screwed" 

[Guest]

I chuckled... then cried. Thanks for letting us know it's HOT!

[ztejas 43741]

Some of these forecasts seem sensationalist. I doubt it actually goes 104+ 5 days straight next week. As hot as it's been seems like we've been coming in below the forecasted high every day by a few degrees this past week.

[MissingInAction 25299]

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Some of these forecasts seem sensationalist. I doubt it actually goes 104+ 5 days straight next week. As hot as it's been seems like we've been coming in below the forecasted high every day by a few degrees this past week.

[Brisketexan 105570]

4 hours ago, 3adays said:

On last nights weather, Yeomans basically said he doesn’t know what’s going on and can’t explain it. 

Well, he actually said....

32 minutes ago, texasdago said:

I saw it... basically... soil moisture is good so it should be keeping the temperatures in check and the high pressure system is not super strong so he showed some report that said, "climate change: you're all screwed" 

...that.

Bottom line, the Texas summers of most of my life are a thing of the past.  None of this "yeah, it's Texas, it gets hot in the summer" bullshit.  Yeah, we know that, but this...

 

4 of the 5 hottest summers on record (and by a real margin) are within the last 5 years.  And the hottest summer on record was within the last 12 years.  This is the new normal, and the new normal fucking sucks.

[Armybrat 40990]

Pussies….

No A/C at all at Fort Sam & Camp Hood when we were there (1946-48)…

 

[Trey3216 15380]

7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Well, he actually said....

...that.

Bottom line, the Texas summers of most of my life are a thing of the past.  None of this "yeah, it's Texas, it gets hot in the summer" bullshit.  Yeah, we know that, but this...

 

4 of the 5 hottest summers on record (and by a real margin) are within the last 5 years.  And the hottest summer on record was within the last 12 years.  This is the new normal, and the new normal fucking sucks.

It's the new normal for now, until it isn't.  

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Well, he actually said....

...that.

Bottom line, the Texas summers of most of my life are a thing of the past.  None of this "yeah, it's Texas, it gets hot in the summer" bullshit.  Yeah, we know that, but this...

 

4 of the 5 hottest summers on record (and by a real margin) are within the last 5 years.  And the hottest summer on record was within the last 12 years.  This is the new normal, and the new normal fucking sucks.

I keep trying to say "maybe it's just a cycle and will revert to normal." or maybe it's because there is more building in the area. 

No... it's never going to stop.

[GreenspointTexas 9866]

16 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Pussies….

No A/C at all at Fort Sam & Camp Hood when we were there (1946-48)…

 

I bet the high during the summer was like 93, at most then

[Brisketexan 105570]

3 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

I keep trying to say "maybe it's just a cycle and will revert to normal." or maybe it's because there is more building in the area. 

No... it's never going to stop.

Yeah, it's not "increased urban development."  Similar records are set in places like Tyler, which hasn't grown materially in decades.  If it's a cycle, it's a long f'n cycle (we're up to over a quarter century of the trend of increasingly hotter/record summers).

[Biff Tannen 45763]

It was only 94 yesterday due to constant cloud cover, so that was nice.  Today...not so much.

[Armybrat 40990]

8 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

I bet the high during the summer was like 93, at most then

9 June 1948 - the high in San Antonio was 103. Scroll into July & August for more summer temperatures.

https://weatherspark.com/h/m/7137/1948/6/Historical-Weather-in-June-1948-in-San-Antonio-Texas-United-States#Figures-Temperature

[ztejas 43741]

35 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

4 of the 5 hottest summers on record (and by a real margin) are within the last 5 years. 

Looks like 3 of 5.

Your point remains, obviously. 

Edited June 14, 2023 by ztejas

[Brisketexan 105570]

1 minute ago, ztejas said:

Looks like 3 of 5.

Your point remains, obviously. 

Shit, read 2009 as 2019.  But seriously, this trend started in the late 90s, and has continued.  It's a trend I don't much like.

I mean, I've also noticed it in fish patterns, arrival times and amount of waterfowl (later, and not as many), all kinds of other bigger trends that tie into temperature/climate.  It's not good.

[Armybrat 40990]

Evaporative cooler fans were popular in public venues, and my grandparents had one in their cafe next to Grandpa’s auto repair garage.
Small units that clamped to the front passenger side car window were available for rent when crossing the desert areas of the Southwest & SoCal.

[Guest]

I'd be relatively fine with no A/C until night time. One good thing is that there is usually a breeze blowing and it's not too hot until 1-2 in the afternoon if you're in the shade. But trying to sleep when it's 85-95 degrees out would be miserable.

[Biff Tannen 45763]

1 hour ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

I'd be relatively fine with no A/C until night time. One good thing is that there is usually a breeze blowing and it's not too hot until 1-2 in the afternoon if you're in the shade. But trying to sleep when it's 85-95 degrees out would be miserable.

[Armybrat 40990]

Sleeping wasn’t bad if we kept our tabletop fans blowing directly on us all night. 
I recall drinking a lot of ice water during the day.

We got a nice respite from the Texas heat when Dad was transferred in 1950 to Fort Brooke in San Juan, Puerto Rico (within the walls of El Morro Fortress - our quarters were in the trees by the green space on the right of the street that ran up to the citadel).
Spent 3 1/2 lovely years there with a constant ocean breeze, and gorgeous tropical sunsets over San Juan Bay.

 

Edited June 14, 2023 by Armybrat

[Trey3216 15380]

36 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah, it's not "increased urban development."  Similar records are set in places like Tyler, which hasn't grown materially in decades.  If it's a cycle, it's a long f'n cycle (we're up to over a quarter century of the trend of increasingly hotter/record summers).

A quarter of a century is puppynuts in the grand scheme of time.  

[YGIFS 19453]

Yeah, but the quarter of a century when I sweat my balls off from one record breaking year to another breaking year is of some consequence.  At least to me. 

I know, I know.  Long game when it comes to weather versus climate.  But no long game when it comes to anything else.  

[BabaYaga 15371]

23 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Evaporative cooler fans were popular in public venues, and my grandparents had one in their cafe next to Grandpa’s auto repair garage.
Small units that clamped to the front passenger side car window were available for rent when crossing the desert areas of the Southwest & SoCal.

We had one at the ranch cabin for years.  Loved it.  Finally replaced by a couple of window unit ACs

[SimonBolivar 10961]

Meh, this week will be hot but oh well it's summer and it's hot. The meltdown happens sometime in mid to late August when it's been this way for over 2 months, and you start losing your mind a bit waiting on the first 89 degree high of late September.

[BabaYaga 15371]

1 hour ago, Armybrat said:

Pussies….

No A/C at all at Fort Sam & Camp Hood when we were there (1946-48)…

Every summer at the ranch as a kid growing up - we had box fans

[Brisketexan 105570]

1 minute ago, Trey3216 said:

A quarter of a century is puppynuts in the grand scheme of time.  

Sure, in the grand scheme of millenia, or epochs and shit.  But in terms of human history....it's actually material.  And from much larger historical data (we have thousands of years of it from a variety of sources), the increase in temps the last half century is remarkable.  Just locally, we have 120 years of data.  And:

Quote

Since the 1890s, August in Austin has produced an average of seven 100-degree days. But if you look at the past 30 years, as the effects of climate change have become more apparent, that average nearly doubles to 13.

That's just looking at August.

I've been fishing and hunting in Texas for a half century.  I've seen significant shifts in the movement and patterns of wildlife in the past 25 years.  Real shit is happening.

[Biff Tannen 45763]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Sure, in the grand scheme of millenia, or epochs and shit.  But in terms of human history....it's actually material.  And from much larger historical data (we have thousands of years of it from a variety of sources), the increase in temps the last half century is remarkable.  Just locally, we have 120 years of data.  And:

That's just looking at August.

I've been fishing and hunting in Texas for a half century.  I've seen significant shifts in the movement and patterns of wildlife in the past 25 years.  Real shit is happening.

Not to mention the bare bones science that when you increase the level of CO2 in the atmosphere to levels not seen since the dinosaur era when the planet was way warmer, yeah, it's gonna get warmer.  But there are certain posters that refuse to understand anything, so it's best to just move on.

[Armybrat 40990]

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Sure, in the grand scheme of millenia, or epochs and shit.  But in terms of human history....it's actually material.  And from much larger historical data (we have thousands of years of it from a variety of sources), the increase in temps the last half century is remarkable.  Just locally, we have 120 years of data.  And:

That's just looking at August.

I've been fishing and hunting in Texas for a half century.  I've seen significant shifts in the movement and patterns of wildlife in the past 25 years.  Real shit is happening.

And aggy is getting dumber by the year.

[Storm the Field 5305]

15 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Meh, this week will be hot but oh well it's summer and it's hot. The meltdown happens sometime in mid to late August when it's been this way for over 2 months, and you start losing your mind a bit waiting on the first 89 degree high of late September.

I've gotten old and nerdy enough, and increasingly less tolerant of SETX summer weather, that usually starting around Labor Day, I spend a little time each day looking through GFS models for any hint of the first cool front headed for Texas. That first day that the low temp hits 65 (usually early one morning in late September) is quite possibly my new favorite day of the year. 

[texasdago 7589]

 

 

[Biff Tannen 45763]

What on earth

[texasdago 7589]

It's brilliant... and the Alaska temperatures are a nice touch.

[Rudiger 1178]

1 hour ago, Armybrat said:

Sleeping wasn’t bad if we kept our tabletop fans blowing directly on us all night. 
I recall drinking a lot of ice water during the day.

We got a nice respite from the Texas heat when Dad was transferred in 1950 to Fort Brooke in San Juan, Puerto Rico (within the walls of El Morro Fortress - our quarters were in the trees by the green space on the right of the street that ran up to the citadel).
Spent 3 1/2 lovely years there with a constant ocean breeze, and gorgeous tropical sunsets over San Juan Bay.

 

I live on the coast 15 miles west of San Juan. The constant strong breeze makes so much of a difference.

[BabaYaga 15371]

15 minutes ago, texasdago said:

It's brilliant... and the Alaska temperatures are a nice touch.

Until you pull up temps in winter.  I'll take the heat.  

[Felix 607]

1 hour ago, Trey3216 said:

A quarter of a century is puppynuts in the grand scheme of time.  

Sure.  Just keep telling yourself that.

[HOOKEM4 5075]

Thankful that shower last Friday night missed my house but managed to fuckup a weekend of baseball. Also thankful we now have a game or practice everyday from today until next Tuesday. 

At least they didn't schedule us for the hottest time of the day, for the coolest time of the day on any of those days. 

Fuck this heat.

 

[Trey3216 15380]

2 hours ago, Felix said:

Sure.  Just keep telling yourself that.

 

Ok.  You keep telling yourself that 20 year measurements mean anything in geologic time.  Texas was an ocean.  Lots of data that locates "Atlantis" in North Africa.  

We have an affect on the climate, we absolutely do not and cannot control it.  The absurdity to think we do and can control the climate is Idiocracy.

 

Should we do more and everything we can to conserve and limit our effects on the environment???  Absolutely!  And I stand by it and live by it everyday.   But thinking we can control it... That's hilarity at it's finest

 

In the past 600 years you've been able to have wineries in England, and skate on the Thames during winter.  We can't control shit.  The burning ball of fire 93mm miles from us controls that, along with a 23 degree tilt towards the burning ball and a polar wobble that ambulates every 26000 years.   

 

I 100% believe we should do everything we can to take care of our environs, but that's literally all we can do.  

[closetohumping 17547]

5 hours ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

I keep trying to say "maybe it's just a cycle and will revert to normal." or maybe it's because there is more building in the area. 

No... it's never going to stop.

True story.  I was sitting on the porch at crown and anchor one October and a cold front blasted in. Went from 85 to 67 in an instant.  A week later it was hot again. And I thought “what an anomaly, it’s hot in October,”.   Next few October’s I said the same.   Then I left.  

[Foosters 17918]

12 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

 

Ok.  You keep telling yourself that 20 year measurements mean anything in geologic time.  Texas was an ocean.  Lots of data that locates "Atlantis" in North Africa.  

We have an affect on the climate, we absolutely do not and cannot control it.  The absurdity to think we do and can control the climate is Idiocracy.

 

Should we do more and everything we can to conserve and limit our effects on the environment???  Absolutely!  And I stand by it and live by it everyday.   But thinking we can control it... That's hilarity at it's finest

 

In the past 600 years you've been able to have wineries in England, and skate on the Thames during winter.  We can't control shit.  The burning ball of fire 93mm miles from us controls that, along with a 23 degree tilt towards the burning ball and a polar wobble that ambulates every 26000 years.   

 

I 100% believe we should do everything we can to take care of our environs, but that's literally all we can do.  

We can control the amount of CO2 we pump into the air. 

Its both sad and maddening that the talking points have shifted from "climate change is a hoax," to "yeah, ok its real, but there's really nothing we can do about it anyway." 

Isn't that convenient. 

[Felix 607]

9 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

 

Ok.  You keep telling yourself that 20 year measurements mean anything in geologic time.  Texas was an ocean.  Lots of data that locates "Atlantis" in North Africa.  

We have an affect on the climate, we absolutely do not and cannot control it.  The absurdity to think we do and can control the climate is Idiocracy.

 

Should we do more and everything we can to conserve and limit our effects on the environment???  Absolutely!  And I stand by it and live by it everyday.   But thinking we can control it... That's hilarity at it's finest

 

In the past 600 years you've been able to have wineries in England, and skate on the Thames during winter.  We can't control shit.  The burning ball of fire 93mm miles from us controls that, along with a 23 degree tilt towards the burning ball and a polar wobble that ambulates every 26000 years.   

 

I 100% believe we should do everything we can to take care of our environs, but that's literally all we can do.  

You do know why we have an oxygen rich atmosphere right?  Because extremely successful organisms (like us) made it that way.  It also resulted in large extinctions and changed life on earth.  "Control" is not the issue.  The issue is tipping the balance and changing the ecosystem that we all rely on to survive.  It's happening even as we speak and you're lying to yourself if you don't think we are doing to ourselves.

 

[atomheartbevo 90045]

3 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

Until you pull up temps in winter.  I'll take the heat.  

I used to say "well, at least I don't have to shovel the heat!"

And now I'm like "fuck, I can't shovel the heat!"

I can always put on more clothes up north, but in Austin, there's only so many I can remove before public indecency laws kick in, and I'm not going to test the waters to see if there is a "three strikes" policy.

[Trey3216 15380]

4 minutes ago, Foosters said:

We can control the amount of CO2 we pump into the air. 

Its both sad and maddening that the talking points have shifted from "climate change is a hoax," to "yeah, ok its real, but there's really nothing we can do about it anyway." 

Isn't that convenient. 

I've never said it was a hoax.  I've always said, and it is a 100% scientific fact, that climate change is the entire history of our planet.  Yes, we make an impact on it and can infinitesimally make adjustments to it, but it is not the driving factor of climate on earth and never will be.  

[Foosters 17918]

1 minute ago, Trey3216 said:

I've never said it was a hoax.  I've always said, and it is a 100% scientific fact, that climate change is the entire history of our planet.  Yes, we make an impact on it and can infinitesimally make adjustments to it, but it is not the driving factor of climate on earth and never will be.  

Since 1750, humans have increased the abundance of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere by nearly 50 percent.

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/are-humans-causing-or-contributing-global-warming#:~:text=A net 5 billion metric,Learn more.

[Trey3216 15380]

5 minutes ago, Felix said:

You do know why we have an oxygen rich atmosphere right?  Because extremely successful organisms (like us) made it that way.  It also resulted in large extinctions and changed life on earth.  "Control" is not the issue.  The issue is tipping the balance and changing the ecosystem that we all rely on to survive.  It's happening even as we speak and you're lying to yourself if you don't think we are doing to ourselves.

 

20ish percent oxygen.  Been up to 35% around 300mm years ago, but been around 20% for roughly 400mm years.   There's a reason that millions of times more organisms went extinct before us than exist today...Changes have been happening constantly and little changes change the biodiversity.   

 

I know you hardheads read this in me saying that "I'm denying this, or i'm an asshole that".  That's fine.  You can think that.  I've never said we shouldn't do everything smart to be more conservative.   I'm only saying that there's literally only so many things we can do.  We can control our resources.  Controlling and conserving resources absolutely does not mean that we are going to control the climate, because we cannot fucking control the climate.  

[Trey3216 15380]

5 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Since 1750, humans have increased the abundance of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere by nearly 50 percent.

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/are-humans-causing-or-contributing-global-warming#:~:text=A net 5 billion metric,Learn more.

Awesome!  And during the age of the dinosaurs Co2 was much higher than it is now.  

The fact increased Co2 actually helps us feed everyone living on the rock