Allen Outlet Mall Massacre

[Hefeweizen 5328]

4 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

I think we'll eventually get to a point where popular places like the mall will have security checkpoints. There are beaches in China you can't access without going through a metal detector and showing ID/passport. Sad to think that way but it feels inevitable 

Absolutely.  I also think when population composition changes and the country is majority minority you’ll see a big push to change gun ownership laws.

[TornACL 7721]

4 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

I think we'll eventually get to a point where popular places like the mall will have security checkpoints. There are beaches in China you can't access without going through a metal detector and showing ID/passport. Sad to think that way but it feels inevitable 

Sounds like freedom to me!

We should just go ahead and replace the stars on our flag with 50 little guns, because our entire society is beholden to the fucking gun.

[Celery Man 20970]

alright guys, getting amped up to go to Lowes for stuff I need for a playscape. Wish me luck godspeed everyone FREEDOM

 

[CooterBrown 18015]

Capitalism and competition thrives in the firearm industry to keep prices down, but we’ve made medical care and mental health treatment unobtainable for many. 

If healthcare was cheaper no one would care about mass shootings? Got it.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Thanks Trey and BOOM for negging me. No, the neg rep doesn’t bother me. In fact I love it. It shows me exactly who you pussies are. Come out into the light you cowards.  Have fun stroking your guns to the photos of dead kids. Bitch made bitches. 

[hookem2010 2624]

11 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Since I don't recall ever seeing one of your posts before, may I ask if this is serious or a joke?  TIA.

This was not a serious post. I think something desperately needs to be done to respond to our country's obsession with guns, but have zero expectations that anything will change.

[Kel Varnsen 8539]

Y'all don't understand. This is the right's strategy to decrease immigration. They want to make this country so shitty that they will say fuck that. It's safer to stay down here.

Edited May 7, 2023 by Kel Varnsen

[B00M 6420]

27 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

 

If healthcare was cheaper no one would care about mass shootings? Got it.

 

I’m saying we’re watching in real time what happens to a western society that’s saturated with firearms as stress levels at the median individual level rise. Wealth is being concentrated to such a degree, the typical American has no savings at all but they definitely have debt! Owning a home is a fantasy. Every day more Americans feel hopeless and like there’s nothing to live for. The only “solution” that can actually be implemented quickly is improving our social safety net with things like UBI, universal health care coverage, etc to help lift the boot off the typical American’s neck. I don’t think AI is the boogeyman it’s being made out to be, but even GOP politicians can use it to justify voting for additional entitlements. Other than the extreme regards in the house, of course.

Look, if we can’t get courts to agree to any sort of limit on the types of firearms an 18-21 year old male can own, the odds of a blanket ban on the 100M+ semi-auto rifles in the US seems impossible to me. 

[Bullneck 19181]

1 hour ago, B00M said:

This here is the problem. Life in the US is extremely stressful, from start to finish, for at least half of the population, and this is trending in the wrong direction with inflation and politics. Being poor, bullied, having mental health issues or just not being able to meet expectations and being unable to afford to change any of it… It makes people snap. And if you have a clean (enough) record, a reliable firearm costs about the same as an uninsured trip to a general doctor… where they’ll tell you to see a specialist you can’t afford that can’t make an appointment with you for months anyway. Capitalism and competition thrives in the firearm industry to keep prices down, but we’ve made medical care and mental health treatment unobtainable for many. 

So, capitalism is the problem (I agree with you).

We are "Trending in the wrong direction with inflation & politics."  The inflation Biden controlled after it was prodded by the capitalists. 

But the "politics" you throw in there is 100% within our control.  All we have to do is vote for those who have our interests at heart, not Apple or Amazon or the NRA.  

We could vote to have better universal health care.  And hire more IRS agents to ensure the 1% and corporations are paying taxes.  

Did you vote for that?

 

[B00M 6420]

28 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Thanks Trey and BOOM for negging me. No, the neg rep doesn’t bother me. In fact I love it. It shows me exactly who you pussies are. Come out into the light you cowards.  Have fun stroking your guns to the photos of dead kids. Bitch made bitches. 

[Bullneck 19181]

3 minutes ago, B00M said:

Look, if we can’t get courts to agree to any sort of limit on the types of firearms an 18-21 year old male can own, the odds of a blanket ban on the 100M+ semi-auto rifles in the US seems impossible to me. 

Or you could vote into Congress candidates who tell you they will vote for gun control.  

Voila!  Problem solved.

[mdmost 43004]

For all the get more guns out there people, this guy opened his car door and killed those kids in less than 10 seconds. So unless some good guy with a gun with amazing reaction time and threat assessment skills was standing right by that H&M, nothing changes yesterday. 

I remember in college thinking how scary it must be to live in Israel when suicide bombers were blowing themselves up left and right in markets. You never know when your number is going to get called there. Fast forward 25 years. 

[G650 14265]

1 hour ago, Chooky said:

Shoot at the fish? 

[4th&Five 41565]

Just now, mdmost said:

For all the get more guns out there people, this guy opened his car door and killed those kids in less than 10 seconds. So unless some good guy with a gun with amazing reaction time and threat assessment skills was standing right by that H&M, nothing changes yesterday. 

I remember in college thinking how scary it must be to live in Israel when suicide bombers were blowing themselves up left and right in markets. You never know when your number is going to get called there. Fast forward 25 years. 

We need multiple snipers at every mall, school and church in America!

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

What’s up bitch?

[B00M 6420]

1 minute ago, Bullneck said:

So, capitalism is the problem (I agree with you).

We are "Trending in the wrong direction with inflation & politics."  The inflation Biden controlled after it was prodded by the capitalists. 

But the "politics" you throw in there is 100% within our control.  All we have to do is vote for those who have our interests at heart, not Apple or Amazon or the NRA.  

We could vote to have better universal health care.  And hire more IRS agents to ensure the 1% and corporations are paying taxes.  

Did you vote for that?

 

I did vote for Biden and voted against trump four(?) times. Every chance I had. But that’s irrelevant when even trump’s bump-stock ban has since been reversed by our courts — All the effort and energy into gun law reform and we can’t even restrict a novelty item gun enthusiasts don’t even care about. 

While we definitely need to adequately fund the IRS (the controversy over funding for future IRS agent hiring is just an example of the way our society is shitting itself right now), the fundamental problem is the tax code. Corporations are doing exactly what tax code wants them to do. 

[closetohumping 17453]

15 minutes ago, mdmost said:

For all the get more guns out there people, this guy opened his car door and killed those kids in less than 10 seconds. So unless some good guy with a gun with amazing reaction time and threat assessment skills was standing right by that H&M, nothing changes yesterday. 

I remember in college thinking how scary it must be to live in Israel when suicide bombers were blowing themselves up left and right in markets. You never know when your number is going to get called there. Fast forward 25 years. 

This is like a sat math question.  You are very likely between 43-49

[Smax 3800]

1 hour ago, B00M said:

This here is the problem. Life in the US is extremely stressful, from start to finish, for at least half of the population, and this is trending in the wrong direction with inflation and politics. Being poor, bullied, having mental health issues or just not being able to meet expectations and being unable to afford to change any of it… It makes people snap. And if you have a clean (enough) record, a reliable firearm costs about the same as an uninsured trip to a general doctor… where they’ll tell you to see a specialist you can’t afford that can’t make an appointment with you for months anyway. Capitalism and competition thrives in the firearm industry to keep prices down, but we’ve made medical care and mental health treatment unobtainable for many. 

 

 

greatest country in the world yo!  🙄

[Stilicho 1397]

9 minutes ago, B00M said:

I did vote for Biden and voted against trump four(?) times. Every chance I had. But that’s irrelevant when even trump’s bump-stock ban has since been reversed by our courts — All the effort and energy into gun law reform and we can’t even restrict a novelty item gun enthusiasts don’t even care about. 

While we definitely need to adequately fund the IRS (the controversy over funding for future IRS agent hiring is just an example of the way our society is shitting itself right now), the fundamental problem is the tax code. Corporations are doing exactly what tax code wants them to do. 

The fucking tax code didn’t kick open a car door and blow away a bunch of kids at an outlet mall. 
 

[Surly Bevo 25065]

For all the get more guns out there people, this guy opened his car door and killed those kids in less than 10 seconds. So unless some good guy with a gun with amazing reaction time and threat assessment skills was standing right by that H&M, nothing changes yesterday. 
I remember in college thinking how scary it must be to live in Israel when suicide bombers were blowing themselves up left and right in markets. You never know when your number is going to get called there. Fast forward 25 years. 

Well we’ve basically created a whole generation of terrorists here. Males 15-35 with no prospects, mental illness, and lots of access to firepower. They just are not as organized with scary names like Al Queda or Hezbollah.

Yet

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

Tax code.

Did NOT have that in my “why is this happening” bingo card.

[B00M 6420]

Just now, Stilicho said:

The fucking tax code didn’t kick open a car door and blow away a bunch of kids at an outlet mall. 
 

I agree with you… but I was responding to a specific thing @Bullneck said to me. Take it easy bro

 

[Slacks 6822]

I don't believe this is going to ever get solved. 

As I stated in many threads over many topics, this country was 'founded' by gun force.

Gun force is more foundational to the USA than Christianity. The lands were taken from the original settlers by gun force. The land became agricultural by gun force. The landowners who gained the land by gun, became wealthy by slave labor enforced by gun. Then there was a civil war fought (by gun) over whether or not slavery (by gun) would continue. When slavery was ended, there was a new debate... We can't let them become citizens, because then they will have the constitutional right to... Guns. 

This train has no brakes, doesn't ruin out of fuel, and will just keep going, no matter how many cars derail. 

If every family in the U. S. lost someone to gun violence this year, we would do nothing about it. I don't know if we could. The number of guns is so high. And the number of responsible gun owners is high. The challenge is, if all guns were illegal today, that would just make a bunch of gun owners criminals. The killers would still be killers. 

Outlaw guns now to save people 100 years from now. 

Edited May 7, 2023 by Slacks
Swype for fun

[Hefeweizen 5328]

8 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Tax code.

Did NOT have that in my “why is this happening” bingo card.

It’s not.  Anything but fixing guns is the problem.

[mdmost 43004]

Yep. We're a violent nation by birthright. We declared our independence from our home county with violence. We expanded west with violence. We've always solved our problems with violence. And we have people hellbent on making it even easier to access tools to enact violence on others. It's never going to get better. This is our new reality.

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1549]

Just now, mdmost said:

Yep. We're a violent nation by birthright. We declared our independence from our home county with violence. We expanded west with violence. We've always solved our problems with violence. And we have people hellbent on making it even easier to access tools to enact violence on others. It's never going to get better. This is our new reality.

so are Australia and New Zealand, Canada too.  They don't have 2A. 

[Slacks 6822]

1 minute ago, mdmost said:

Yep. We're a violent nation by birthright. We declared our independence from our home county with violence. We expanded west with violence. We've always solved our problems with violence. And we have people hellbent on making it even easier to access tools to enact violence on others. It's never going to get better. This is our new reality.

It's not new. Access to hi capacity is new. 

Maybe that's the first step... Reduce mag capacity.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

1 minute ago, Slacks said:

It's not new. Access to hi capacity is new. 

Maybe that's the first step... Reduce mag capacity.

Lol

[Hefeweizen 5328]

Just now, Slacks said:

It's not new. Access to hi capacity is new. 

Maybe that's the first step... Reduce mag capacity.

Yeah it would be progress of a sort to have three or four dead kids instead of 9 or 18.

[Surly Bevo 25065]

1 minute ago, Slacks said:

I don't believe this is going to ever get solved. 

As I stated in many threads over many topics, this country was 'founded' by gun force.

Gun force is more foundational to the USA than Christianity. The lands were taken from the original settlers by gun force. The land became agricultural by fun force. The landowners who gained the land by gun, became wealthy by slave labor enforced by gun. Then there was a civil war fought (by gun) over whether or not slavery (by gun) would continue. When slavery was ended, there was a new debate... We can't let them become citizens, because then they will have the constitutional right to... Guns. 

This train has no brakes, doesn't ruin out of fuel, and will just keep going, no matter how many cars derail. 

If every family in the U. S. lost someone to gun violence this year, we would do nothing about it. I don't know if we could. The number of guns is so high. And the number of responsible gun owners is high. The challenge is, if all guns were illegal today, that would just make a bunch of gun owners criminals. The killers would still be killers. 

Outlaw guns now to save people 100 years from now. 

You think every other country in the world didn't have weapons, violence and in more modern times guns running throughout and shapring their history?  

I do agree that any action will take a good while to work through the system and we have very little long term patience these days.

[Slacks 6822]

2 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

so are Australia and New Zealand, Canada too.  They don't have 2A. 

They don't feel like they have to keep the slaves in check.. And they trust their government far more than we do..

 

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1549]

best solution

- eliminate rapid fire guns, specifically manufacturing and imports. 

- if that doesn't work, have an age limit of 21 to buy one.  Seems the events are based on recent acquisitions

- have a buy back, might cost billions, but who cares , we are already $31TTT in debt. Money has no value. 

- make sure the 2A crowd is told your pistols, shotguns and hunting rifles will not be affected. 

[Slacks 6822]

1 minute ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Lol

You're not getting rid of the guns any time soon, so what do you suggest. 

Lol doesn't solve shit. 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

1 minute ago, Slacks said:

You're not getting rid of the guns any time soon, so what do you suggest. 

Lol doesn't solve shit. 

Slippery slope. Well-regulated militia.

Nothing will change. We’re broken.

[Surly Bevo 25065]

5 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

best solution

- eliminate rapid fire guns, specifically manufacturing and imports. 

- if that doesn't work, have an age limit of 21 to buy one.  Seems the events are based on recent acquisitions

- have a buy back, might cost billions, but who cares , we are already $31TTT in debt. Money has no value. 

- make sure the 2A crowd is told your pistols, shotguns and hunting rifles will not be affected. 

Also need to at a minimum make sure if you are carrying it is concealed and onerous as fuck both in terms of cost and training required to be licensed to do so.

Edited May 7, 2023 by Surly Bevo

[Slacks 6822]

Just now, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

best solution

- eliminate rapid fire guns, specifically manufacturing and imports. 

- if that doesn't work, have an age limit of 21 to buy one.  Seems the events are based on recent acquisitions

- have a buy back, might cost billions, but who cares , we are already $31TTT in debt. Money has no value. 

- make sure the 2A crowd is told your pistols, shotguns and hunting rifles will not be affected. 

All multi shot guns are rapid fire. They shoot as fast as your finger can work the trigger. 

Age limit would address a few cases. Sure. 

Buy back will only work if there isn't another gun to be bought after the fact. 

The 2A crowd believes (or says they believe) AR is a hunting rifle. I've hunted with one. Same result as a bolt action. 

[Slacks 6822]

3 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Slippery slope. Well-regulated militia.

Nothing will change. We’re broken.

So start with magazine capacity. Decrease the number of available shots to 10.

If course guys like this will carry 10 mags, but it looks like he has 10 30 round mags on him, anyway. 

I really do believe this will be the most acceptable and most effective first step. 

Reducing capacity by law does not infringe on 2A. 

Then do a buyback on hi cap mags. 

Call your representatives. Get them started on something. 

 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

1 minute ago, Slacks said:

So start with magazine capacity. Decrease the number of available shots to 10.

If course guys like this will carry 10 mags, but it looks like he has 10 30 round mags on him, anyway. 

I really do believe this will be the most acceptable and most effective first step. 

Reducing capacity by law does not infringe on 2A. 

Then do a buyback on hi cap mags. 

Call your representatives. Get them started on something. 

 

My rep is Lauren Fucking Boebert.  She’ll get right on that, Slacks.

[rage-a-holic 4407]

Fucking tards in charge. Stop being like Austin, Dallas

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Dallas Police Department computers are still down after the city’s system was attacked by ransomware on Wednesday, so it’s hard for them get information on prior calls to the home, they say.

 

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1549]

Just now, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

My rep is Lauren Fucking Boebert.  She’ll get right on that, Slacks.

i actually feel sorry for you being surrounded by hundreds of thousands of morons in the voting district. 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

Just now, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

i actually feel sorry for you being surrounded by hundreds of thousands of morons in the voting district. 

Do you live in Texas?

[Smax 3800]

4 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

My rep is Lauren Fucking Boebert.  She’ll get right on that, Slacks.

ged barbie, ouch

[Slacks 6822]

13 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

You think every other country in the world didn't have weapons, violence and in more modern times guns running throughout and shapring their history?  

I do agree that any action will take a good while to work through the system and we have very little long term patience these days.

Look at this country. Look at any other country. 

This country became the richest country in the world. Those countries did not. They put their guns down (mostly). 

This country profits by gun. That is the difference. It's not just history, it's the entire way of life. It's the foundation of this country, not just a tool. Without guns throughout history, this country probably looks vastly different. 

Hell, I'd be all for us all giving up guns, if it meant my sons would no longer be considered a threat to law enforcement.

Bullets are the fabric. 

5 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

My rep is Lauren Fucking Boebert.  She’ll get right on that, Slacks.

Sounds like you have work to do. 

[Nicole44 22064]

After seeing pictures and video of the victims (the little girl with her face blown off) I am convinced we need to stop sanitizing things for folks. Sure put up a disclaimer: violent images. Force people to see the carnage. Force people to look at the bodies and what that weapon did to those people merely out shopping and enjoying their day. People need to see that little girl with her face blown off. The bodies piled up next to her. Covered in blood and riddled with bullets. The only way to reach the hearts and minds of people who are capable of changing them and changing their vote to effect change is to SHOW them what their thoughts and prayers are being directed towards. The little girl with HER FACE BLOWN OFF! 
 

Stop sanitizing things for folks. I wish I hadn’t seen all those images this morning. Not blurred out. People might say those images circulating are disrespectful and I understand that…but words are NOT making any changes. Maybe I am wrong but the masses need to see this shit. 
 

I would go to that outlet mall quite a bit when I lived in Plano. Sometimes would just park and walk around not really buying anything…just would walk around for something to do. Maybe grab a beverage and just window shop. It’s sickening. No place is safe. Schools, churches, movie theaters, malls…concerts…parks, no place is safe. It’s soul crushing. 

Edited May 7, 2023 by Nicole44

[B00M 6420]

3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Also need to at a minimum make sure if you are carrying it is concealed and onerous as fuck both in terms of cost and training required to be licensed to do so.

I agree carrying should be concealed but why make it onerous as fuck? Established requirements (background check, fee, course/exam that forces you to learn sone relevant laws, shooting test) already leave licensed concealed carriers much less likely to commit violent crime than police officers. They’re basically the safest category of people in the US. Those requirements were reasonable.
 

of course now there’s “Constitutional”/open carry so no one needs training or knowledge at all to legally carry so any requirement might seem onerous as fuck lol
 

 

 

[mdmost 43004]

nm

Edited May 7, 2023 by mdmost

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

3 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

After seeing pictures and video of the victims (the little girl with her face blown off) I am convinced we need to stop sanitizing things for folks. Sure put up a disclaimer: violent images. Force people to see the carnage. Force people to look at the bodies and what that weapon did to those people merely out shopping and enjoying their day. People need to see that little girl with her face blown off. The bodies piled up next to her. Covered in blood and riddled with bullets. The only way to reach the hearts and minds of people who are capable of changing them and changing their vote to effect change is to SHOW them what their thoughts and prayers are being directed towards. The little girl with HER FACE BLOWN OFF! 
 

Stop sanitizing things for folks. I wish I hadn’t seen all those images this morning. Not blurred out. People might say those images circulating are disrespectful and I understand that…but words are making any changes. Maybe I am wrong but the masses need to see this shit. 
 

I would go to that outlet mall quite a bit when I lived in Plano. Sometimes would just park and walk around Amit really buying anything…just would walk around for something to do. Maybe grab a beverage and just window shop. It’s sickening. No place is safe. Schools, churches, movie theaters, malls…concerts…parks, no place is safe. It’s soul crushing. 

You completely misjudge the enemy here. A large percentage of our country sees these images and events unfold and it reinforces their belief that the only solution is more guns in our society.

The problem wasn’t that this lunatic had easy access to weapons of war. The problem was that every shopper in his vicinity wasn’t returning fire.

Do you understand that?

[mdmost 43004]

5 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

After seeing pictures and video of the victims (the little girl with her face blown off) I am convinced we need to stop sanitizing things for folks. Sure put up a disclaimer: violent images. Force people to see the carnage. Force people to look at the bodies and what that weapon did to those people merely out shopping and enjoying their day. People need to see that little girl with her face blown off. The bodies piled up next to her. Covered in blood and riddled with bullets. The only way to reach the hearts and minds of people who are capable of changing them and changing their vote to effect change is to SHOW them what their thoughts and prayers are being directed towards. The little girl with HER FACE BLOWN OFF! 
 

Stop sanitizing things for folks. I wish I hadn’t seen all those images this morning. Not blurred out. People might say those images circulating are disrespectful and I understand that…but words are NOT making any changes. Maybe I am wrong but the masses need to see this shit. 
 

I would go to that outlet mall quite a bit when I lived in Plano. Sometimes would just park and walk around not really buying anything…just would walk around for something to do. Maybe grab a beverage and just window shop. It’s sickening. No place is safe. Schools, churches, movie theaters, malls…concerts…parks, no place is safe. It’s soul crushing. 

Yeah but you're asking the families to constantly relive that trauma for the benefit of assholes who really don't care. If anything, you harden the people who feel they need to outgun the perpetrators. 

[rage-a-holic 4407]

1 minute ago, mdmost said:

 

Are you also a tard? Did you read the quote and the fucking link? The CCCC grads in charge of Dallas IT infrastructure allowed a ransomware attack, which is preventing officials from getting records about calls to the shooters home.

 

[mdmost 43004]

4 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

Are you also a tard? Did you read the quote and the fucking link? The CCCC grads in charge of Dallas IT infrastructure allowed a ransomware attack, which is preventing officials from getting records about calls to the shooters home.

 

Yes, I am. No, I didn't which is why I edited the post. 

Edited May 7, 2023 by mdmost